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Heather MacDonald writes in City Journal (via FrontPage, with thanks to EPG) on the consequences of dhimmitude in law enforcement and the failure to stand up to American Muslim advocacy groups that impede anti-terror efforts:
Yet even if the FBI is now fearless about using its surveillance authority, the strategic challenge is daunting. "The dilemma," says a big-city police counter-terrorism official, is that "you can't put a bug in every mosque. And where are you going to put it? In the imam's office? In the corner where they gather? But should it be the same corner? And who's the 'they?' " The only solution, he says, is to develop sources and have them watch.So far, however, federal and local efforts to penetrate the byzantine world of mosque politics have had limited success. After an FBI outreach to a New York mosque, the imam and his deputies reportedly broke out laughing at their successful snow job: "This is great! They're coming to us?" the imam chortled. The situation is the same in southern California. "We'll come back from a Kumbayah meeting with a local mosque," says a police leader, "and realize that these guys who just agreed to help us are in our terror files!" Then there's the inevitable phone call from the imam three weeks later:
" 'You need to check this guy out,' " and it turns out that the "suspect" has been opposing the imam in local power plays.
The domestic barriers to tracking down potential terrorists explain why so much of the post-9/11 intelligence in the war on Islamic terror has come from the interrogation of prisoners abroad. Yet that source is about to dry up, in the overreaction to the Abu Ghraib prisoner-abuse scandal. Military and CIA officials have shut down almost all interrogation techniques that were working, such as keeping someone awake over 12 hours a day, because of charges that they constituted "torture."
Domestic intelligence-gathering therefore will become all the more crucial in the coming year. Unfortunately, most Muslim-American organizations—above all, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)—send out a nonstop message of victimology, telling Muslims that the United States is their enemy and is stripping them of their civil rights. This summer, CAIR distributed postcards at mosques across the country with the infamous photograph from Abu Ghraib of a hooded prisoner standing on a box with wires hanging from his hands. Juxtaposed with the picture was a 2003 quotation from President Bush saying that the United States was leading the fight against torture. The postcards were supposed to be sent to Congress to demand an end to U.S. government torture. Such propaganda lessens the likelihood that Muslims will volunteer information about possible terror sympathizers in their midst.
Posted by Robert at November 16, 2004 7:24 AM
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Since they feel that the United States is their enemy, they should pack their Hefty trash bags with their robes and coffee filters, and head out of here.
I'll say it again, one more attack on America and there will be hell to pay.
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at November 16, 2004 9:15 AM
The police, journalists, and others need to be given a course in taqiyya. It would consist of someone giving every plausible, phony gambit used in all of those "Muslim-Christian" and "Muslim-Jewish" and other "dialogues" conducted in Muslim outreach sessions. One would go through the whole shtick, as veterans of the Borscht Belt might put it -- from the "we all share the one Abrahamic faith" and "we all share monotheism" and "we respect Jesus and Moses as prophets" and -- and at the end, each of these misleading pseudo-statements can be taken apart -- beginning, for example, with whether or not the "Jesus" or the "Moses" of Islam has anything to do with the Jesus or Moses of Christianity or Judaism, and pointing out that the inclusion of all the major figures, and sites, in the two prior monotheisms, in Islam was an act of deliberate appropriate for Islam itself is a belief-system that was offered to justify, and promote, conquest by "Muslims" of much larger, more settled, wealthier, altogether more advanced populations of Christians and Jews in Mesopotamia, Syria, Judea, Egypt, North Africa, and Spain. The conquests of Sassanian Persia, and later of the Hindus (and Buddhists) of India required other adjustments -- including, in the end, treating the Hindus almost as "People fo the Book" because there were simply too many of them to completely wipe out, and besides, the Muslim rulers wanted to keep them alive because, as everywhere in the Muslim lands, it was the forced contributions from non-Muslims, the jizyah and kharaj, that paid for the Muslim state.
An hour presentation could be given -- using virtualy every trick, every bit of misrepesentation, every sly eliding of the truth -- including, most obviously, the 1350 year history of Muslim Jihad-conquest and the imposition of dhimmitude.
Another feature of such an effort at mentally preparing innocent police, F.B.I. men, and others would be to explain just how minor are the parts of Islam that get so much attention -- essentially, Ramadan -- which poses no threat, is simply an element of individual worship that, because it involves families (Families! Family Values! Good Islamic Family Values!), and seems to be analogous -- and Muslm propaganda depends on the use of false but comforting analogies -- to the observance of Lent by some Christians, or the avoidance of pork by some Jews. But that's it -- beyond Ramadan, and those five canonical prayers, there is the whole world of Qur'an Sura 9, and throughout, more than a hundred mentions of Jihad -- and 27 of qital, or combat.
There has to be set up, by the F.B.I. or the Pentagon, essentially an Academy of Muslim Propaganda, where non-Muslims well-versed in the techniques, even the precise plausible phrases (for they are used again and again by Muslim propagandists -- or non-Muslims mindlessly repeating the propaganda) that non-Muslims will be exposed to.
One has witnessed, in mosques, the damage a single well-informed Infidel can do to a whole evening of propagandistic nonsense -- simply by referring to Khaybar, or the Bani Qurayza, or Aisha, or mentioning the hadith (usually the hadith are never mentioned, nor the sira -- the dumb Infidels are kept from learning about those).
All one has to do is properly inform oneself. And that goes not only for individuals, but for F.B.I. agents, local police, journalists, and others -- there is no justification, none, for not learning what is in Qur'an and hadith and sira -- and learning not from apologists, but from the very best sources of all -- including, most obviously, scholars such as Bat Ye'or, and ex-Muslims such as Ibn Warraq and Ali Sina.
Posted by: Hugh at November 16, 2004 9:49 AM
"Military and CIA officials have shut down almost all interrogation techniques that were working, such as keeping someone awake over 12 hours a day, because of charges that they constituted "torture."
Holy shit - 12 hours a day without sleep. My job has kept me like this for decades - who do I sue?
at November 16, 2004 11:19 AM
Good one John..
Posted by: DCWatson at November 16, 2004 12:47 PM
Hugh, I like your idea but in this political climate our government won't produce materials such as those. The private sector has to do it.
You know, you could put together seminars of how private individuals could respond in a interdenominational reunion. I WANT to be prepared enough to do that. I have NERVE enough; just need some lessons.
Hold the seminars. Or produce materials to hold seminars. One of the regular contributors is always making a call for us to organize in small groups (sonofwalker??; not it). One objective of these groups could arming themselves VERBALLY.
at November 16, 2004 1:45 PM
Yes -- perhaps a series of seminars, or a Summer Camp in Counter-Da'wa, for several hundred screened participants from law enforcement agencies, and then similar sessions for others.
Where are the Deep Pockets when we need them? What boots all the gold in Fort Knox if Europe, and America, are steadily islamized? What will life be like? Well, perhaps like Yemen, or Iran or Iraq, or Algeria, or Saudi Arabia? Any takers? Anyone pleased by the prospect? What is it worth it to avoid such? Nothing? Something? A great deal?
Posted by: Hugh at November 16, 2004 2:32 PM
I've compile a 160 mss pp of "A Glossary of Islamic Extremism." The problem at this time is that I don't permissios from publishers to reprint, nor do I have a publisher. On top of that, the more I read of Hugh's and Catherine's posts the more inadequate I feel. Still, it's interesting and informative work. If you have any suggestions on how to proceed with this project, please feel free to contact Susan_B to gain acsess to my private life.
Posted by: sonofwalker at November 16, 2004 4:10 PM
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