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"Only 3 to 4 percent of Turks living in Germany could be counted as Islamist, he said." Oh, that makes it all OK. But of course, no mention is made of what is being done, if anything, to keep these numbers from growing, and to make any significant distinction between the Islam of the 97% and the Islam of the "Islamists," so that the latter don't work the former as a huge recruiting ground -- with chapter and verse of the Qur'an and Hadith on their side. From Expatica, with thanks to Anthony:
BERLIN - Germany's first professor for Islamic religion has criticised talk of an alleged Islamist threat in the country amid increasing political calls for foreigners to do more to integrate themselves into German society.Muhammad Sven Kalisch, professor for the religion of Islam at the University of Muenster, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa he was concerned that the difference between Islam and the western world "is being so exaggerated in the way it is now".
Kalisch said if minorities cut themselves off from society "or are perceived to be cut off" it leads to mistrust.
The Turkish ambassador in Berlin, Mehmet Ali Irtemcelik, also warned against Muslims being "unjustly placed in the dock".
He told Focus news magazine to appear Monday that the Islamist issue was being "irresponsibly exaggerated". Only 3 to 4 percent of Turks living in Germany could be counted as Islamist, he said....
Meanwhile, in other German idiocy:
Last week, Schroeder's Greens coalition partner called for establishing a Muslim public holiday in Germany as a reaction to violence in the Netherlands.Both Germany's Greens Environment Minister, Juergen Trittin, and the deputy chairman of the Greens in parliament, Hans-Christian Stroebele backed the move.
But the proposal was roundly attacked by the opposition. Guenther Beckstein, the Bavarian interior minister, said it proved the Greens could not let go of their "starry-eyed" dream of a multi-cultural society which has long since "failed".
Indeed it has. But so few have yet noticed. Imagine for a moment if Trittin and Stroebele get their way: do you think a Muslim holiday in Germany is likely to:
a) appease and silence Muslim radicals? or
b) embolden Muslim radicals to press for more concessions?
If your answer was "b," go to the head of the class. You have learned the lesson taught by these Greens' illustrious countryman, a certain genocidal totalitarian named Hitler. In the face of a new genocidal totalitarian threat, these Greens are indicating that they napped and passed notes to girls all the way through history class.
Posted by Robert at November 27, 2004 7:28 AM
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The Turks have a most ugly history of their own. This man is the descendant of an evil people. Here is what another great religion says about Turks (muslims):
`Smite Turks with immense vigour. A Singh who obeys the Rahit does not bow when he meets a Turk. Never serve Turks, never greet a Turk, never trust Turks. Serve only the Khalsa. Avoid Muslim huttha meat. By fighting them face to face the Muslims will be defeated. Remain ever alert against the Turks. A Turk should be neither accepted as a master nor treated with deference. Keep Muslims away from your cooking-square when preparing for a langar. Muslims are polluted. [16, 20, 21, 30, 45, 46, 62, 94]`
http://allaboutsikhs.com/rehat/rehat_17.htm
The Germans are finding out now. And so are a whole lot of others.
Also remember that Turkey sabotaged the Iraqi venture by refusing permission at the last minute, as a result of which ONE whole division and hardware had to be re-routed from the Mediterranean and all around S.Africa to meet up with their counterparts in Iraq. This naturally upset the progress of the War which was already on. This is typical Muslim treachery.
The US would do better in helping the Iraqi Kurds get their Kurdistan. To hell with the Turks.
At least the Kurds will be grateful. And will go a long way to encourage the Iranian and Turkish Kurds.
An excellent article in FrontPage. Will Turkey now proceed to compensate the descendants of the victims:
"The Ottomans lurched from outrage to outrage. Regular slaughters of Armenians in Bayazid (1877), Alashgurd (1879), Sassun (1894), Constantinople (1896), Adana (1909) and Armenia itself (1895-96) claimed a total of two hundred thousand lives, but they were only rehearsals for the genocide of 1915. The slaughter of Christians in Alexandria in 1881 was only a rehearsal for the artificial famine induced by the Turks in 1915-16 that killed over a hundred thousand Maronite Christians in Lebanon and Syria. So imminent and ever-present was the peril, and so fresh the memory of these events in the minds of the non-Moslems, that illiterate Christian mothers dated events as so many years before or after "such and such a massacre." Across the Middle East, the bloodshed of 1915-1922 finally destroyed ancient Christian communities and cultures that had survived since Roman times-groups like the Jacobites (Syrian Orthodox), Nestorians (Iraqi Orthodox), and Chaldaeans (Iraqi Catholic)...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16059
Never, ever be taken in by mosie lies. Remember their religion teaches them to lie, cheat, pillage, rape etc. It`s all in that dirty book of theirs.
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at November 27, 2004 8:04 AM
"Only" 3 to 4 percent, but they happen to be brainwashed, murderous psychopaths ready, willing and most able to slaughter anyone who might stand in their way, criticize them or reveal who they are. Yeah, no problem. And nobody in the the other 96 to 97 percent wouldn't possibly assist them in any way, now would they? Nor fund them. Nor hide them. Nor turn the other way. Nor cheer them on. Nor end up joining this tiny minority later on. No worries.
Yes all we need is a Happy Beheading Day and everybody will get along.
Posted by: feralee at November 27, 2004 8:13 AM
We know, and they know that we know, but using demographics they will continue to thumb their noses until a definitive solution is reached. It seems that the German elites still haven't learned the lessons of history, an obvious irresponsible error created in those prestigious Germanic universities that are supposed to offer a superior education. Hmmm. Did the Islamists start earlier in Europe than we know?
Posted by: epg at November 27, 2004 11:58 AM
The German red-green biotope sits in an ivory tower, long removed from reality and mentally stooped in the past with socialism just like Islam, which is forever a reminder of the dark ages. Too bad the next elections are too far off. It will be another couple of years before the conservatives are voted back in.
Posted by: Terminator at November 27, 2004 3:52 PM
hutchrun said "`Smite Turks with immense vigour. A Singh who obeys the Rahit does not bow when he meets a Turk. Never serve Turks, never greet a Turk, never trust Turks."
Yes, the Sikhs know all about Islam and Muslims, thier religion is founded on resisting them. They still don't have much use for Muslims, according to my good friend Satinder.
Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at November 27, 2004 5:11 PM
I love the Sikhs!
And I feel so sorry for some of them having been mistaken for Taliban and harrassed and beaten up here in Australia as well as in the States. That's why education is so important, that's why we have to learn to differentiate and what this is all about in order to take action against it.
Posted by: Terminator at November 27, 2004 8:09 PM
I love the Sikhs!
And I feel so sorry for some of them having been mistaken for Taliban and harrassed and beaten up here in Australia as well as in the States. That's why education is so important, that's why we have to learn to differentiate and what this is all about in order to take action against it.
Posted by: Terminator at November 27, 2004 8:11 PM
The Sikhs are one of the races most inoculated against Islam, because for two hundred years their history was one long bloody, cruel and horrifying struggle against Jihad, as the Muslim rulers of India tried to wipe them off the face of the Earth.
Along with Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus and Copts, they are the people who know the truth about Islam, the people who will march with us in our struggle against Jihad, who have lived and experienced its cruelty and oppression, who see it for what it is, clear eyed and without blinkers.
That is why the struggle against Islamism is a multi racial rainbow struggle. Everywhere you go it is the same, the stories are the same, wherever Islam has been in contact with other civilisations, the experience of infidels has a remarkable similarity. This is ultimately what will discard the moronic response of "racism" whenever the subject of Jihad is broached, when non white, non Christian people make their knowledge of Islam plain.
Posted by: Kaffir Boy at November 28, 2004 8:33 AM
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