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Ali Dashti has sent in an interesting analysis of that great statesman Recep Tayyip Erdogan's recent threats regarding Turkey's desire to join the EU:
Is Erdogan saying, "Admit Turkey to EU -- or else"?Erdogan is just keeping with a very common view of Jihad, which states that not only can Jihad be started against those who attack Islam; it can be waged against those who place "obstacles" in the way and prevent the spread of Islam. He's just being the good Muslim he is. If the EU should in the end block Turkey from joining, it would place obstacles in the way for the spread of Islam in Europe, and by many Muslims this will be regarded as a declaration of war.
Basically, absolutely any steps we take to prevent the Islamization of our lands and retain our freedom will be seen as an "attack" on Islam.
It is a consensus from the scholars of Islam that Jihad is, “fighting the kuffar to remove the obstacles in the way of making Allah’s (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) word the highest”, note here that there are two distinct points, the action is “Fighting the kuffar to remove the obstacles”, the reason “making Allah’s (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) word the highest”.And from the Pakistan Times:
The Islamic state reserves the right to use military force against foreign states that engage in persecuting Muslims or, preventing the spread of Islam within their lands.And from the South African imam Ebrahim Desai:
Thus what is meant by the passage in Tafsir Uthmani, is that if a country doesn't allow the propagation of Islam to its inhabitants in a suitable manner or creates hindrances to this, then the Muslim ruler would be justifying in waging Jihad against this country, so that the message of Islam can reach its inhabitants, thus saving them from the Fire of Jahannum. If the Kuffaar allow us to spread Islam peacefully, then we would not wage Jihad against them.And from the Qur'an (in three translations, all made by Muslims):
005.033 YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
And from a noted commentary on the Qur'an:
`Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways.
Posted by Robert at December 17, 2004 7:38 AM
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If the Eu lets Turkey in, the eurodhimmis will truly deserve what'll follow.
Let it be an enduring lesson for all concerned that accomodation and multiculturalism and political correctness etc are all false ideals and self-destructive in their ultimate effect.
Only the free peoples of america and in the coming decades the free peoples of china, japan and india will stand as a bulwark against the relentless march of islam.
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at December 17, 2004 9:10 AM
It is wonderful that Ali Dashti, who singlehandedly has been supplying, month after month, so many important links for readers to go to, and seems to cover half the world, is now putting together brief, clear, and irrefutable evidence, based on quotations from Muslims here there and everywhere. The posting here sets out perfectly his point:
To Muslims, any attempt by Infidels to block the spread of Islam is an act of aggression, to which a "defensive" Jihad -- using whatever instruments will, in the particular case, prove most effective. A law-suit or a murder, a bomb in the subway system or the widespread propaganda about Ramadan and attempts at mosque-outreach and evenings of Taqiyya and Tu-Quoque for campus audiences -- all are instruments to strengthen and spread Islam, to confuse or rout its opponents, and to conduct the Jihad.
Scroll up, read, and re-read what is offered above. Assimilate it. Send it to as many people you can. Try to double, triple, quadruple the numbers of people who, while perhaps sensing that something about the whole situation, and Islam, is not quite right, are afraid to convey their fears and confusions, or do not know where to go to get information.
Get them, in the first place, to come here. And tell them to wander in the past year's store of items and postings, until they get their bearings.
Before World War II, the United States was almost defenseless. Of all the armies in the world, the American army was 18th in size. It took a massive effort to get the war machine going. Now we have a gigantic army, and there is no problem there.
But the instruments of JIhad are not mainly, at the moment, those of armed might. They know they cannot win on any battlefield. They lack the technological prowess. But if they could manage to islamize Europe (Europe with its weaponry as well as its population), if they can step by step dismantle or overcome any mental defenses, they can accomplish the aim of Jihad: which is to say, the spread of Islam everywhere.
Our mental armory, the armory which will allow us to withstand the constant pressure, at every point, of Islam (for the manic energy of CAIR simply reflects the fanatical devotion to the cause not of a handful of Muslims, but of tens of millions, convinced that this belief-system is Everything, the Truth, the Way, the Total Explanation, Everything), is not 18th in the world. But if we in the United States are having trouble, just think what needs to be done in Western Europe, or in India, where the intellectual class largely ignores those it dismisses as purveyors of Hindutva, and refuses to pay much attention to those who, like K. S. Lal, have meticulously recovered the full story of Muslim rule in India. For varous reasons -- including that of intellectual fashion as well as denial, many Infidels refuse to connect the dots linking canonical texts with teachings, teachings with actions. There is no terminus ad quem, no end-point (any political leader who announces that "this is a war we can win" is a fool, or fooling himself). There is simply a possibility to constrain Islam, to turn it back, to cause divisions within it. But that will happen only when a sufficient number of Infidels take the time to learn about Islam -- not Ramadan, not the prayers, but the view of Infidels, the view of dar al-Islam and dar al-Harb, and the definition of Jihad, which is claimed to be only "defensive" but which includes, of course, making war on every and any Infidel state or people who dare to oppose the spread of Islam into their countries. That must be understood and memorized.
One sometimes is tempted to disbelieve, to think that perhaps one is exaggerating the threat, for it all seems too fantastic. In those moments, look around. Look at Holland, where 20 or 30 years ago there were 30,000 Muslims and now there are one million. Look at France. Look at the E.U. Look at the U.N.
Posted by: Hugh at December 17, 2004 9:25 AM
The Trojan Horse has just entered the (EU) building.
Posted by: Kim Hartveld at December 17, 2004 10:32 AM
Our dark days seem to keep getting longer daily. But, friends, wait a few more days, a week or so perhaps, and the light will beging to return to our lives.
I see the World Trade Center Towers collapsing.
I see the New York State motto: "Excelsior."
Higher.
The light will return to shine on us all. We will emerge from this darkness into triumph. A glimmer of hope.
Laocoon is gone down into the darkness of the deeps. When the dawn breaks here there will be no deceit to destroy us. We are not Trojans. No. Go tell the Spartans:....
Posted by: sonofwalker at December 17, 2004 1:23 PM
Yes we know all this but USA continue to support the EU entry of Turkey, and continue to be friend or other miserable country like Morocco, USA must change too, greetings
Posted by: Franze at December 17, 2004 1:31 PM
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