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David Russell has kindly translated for us this commentary from a French website on Turkey and the implications of admitting it into the EU. The name of the website is "The Four Truths"; the author is Christian Lambert.
Many people are writing about Turkey these days. I would like to write about some things regarding Turkey that not many people know.1) In the first place, I would like to remind everybody that until the 11th century, Asia Minor, what is today Turkey, was civilized, evangelized, and administered by the West, starting with Greece, and later the Roman Empire. But then came the invasion of Turkish hordes: first the Seljuks and later the Muslim Ottomans, who, starting in Central Asia, in 1683 reached the gates of Vienna. They remained in the Balkans and in Greece until the 19th century, causing considerable destruction. Victor Hugo, in "Les Orientales", writes: "The Turks came this way. Everything is ruin and mourning."
It must be remembered that there is nothing European about the Turks. Their origins are in the Altai, on the borders of what is today the Republic of Mongolia. They are descended from the Mongols. The Turkish language is Ural-Altaic, very close to the Mongolian language. In terms of ethnicity, Chile and New Zealand, whose populations are 90% European and Christian, have much more of an argument to join the European Union than does a Muslim and Asian Turkey.
2) Even worse: Because of feelings of "Pan-Turkism" which are very strong in Turkey, the Turkic peoples of Asia can easily obtain Turkish citizenship. All told, there are 80 million people of Turkic origin who could be added to the 71 million Turks who live in Turkey. Among the Turkic peoples are the Turkmens, the Uigurs of Sinkiang, which used to be called "Chinese Turkestan", the Azeris, the Tatars, the numerous Uzbeks based in Afghanistan, and even including the Yakuts in eastern Siberia. All told, around twenty ethnic groups, often very poor, and whose traditions are the same as those of the centuries of the Hegira.
It is obvious that once Turkey is admitted to the EU, an enormous migration will take place. Turks coming from the poorest areas of Anatolia will migrate into Europe, and they in turn will be replaced by the Turkic people of Central Asia. They, in tuen, will realize that they will be much better off in the suburbs of Paris with the guaranteed minimum wage and free health care than in the steppes of Central Asia. There are already 4 million Turks in western Europe, who have brought to us such traditions as "honor killings", which is to say a young girl who is killed by her family who goes against customs anchored in the law of "sharia".
3) We also have to remember that, once Turkey is in the EU, Europe's frontiers will border on Georgia, Armenia, Iran, Iraq, Syria. You can be sure that in the future the Kurdish problem will spark conflcits between Turkey, Iran, and Iraq. So, to the unsolved problem of the Balkans (itself caused by Ottoman occupation in preceding centuries), we'll be able to add a problem which will throw Europe deep into the quagmire of the Middle East. It would be sheer insanity to accept such an eventuality.
4) Just a word about the financial consequences of Turkey joinging the EU. It will cost the EU 20 billion Euros per year. The cost of integrating Turkish agriculture into the EU will be greater than the total cost of admitting the ten newest EU members.
France, already bankrupt, will have to shake down the hapless taxpayer once again, the future dhimmi!
5) Under pressure from Brussels, the Turks have made some big, and humiliating, concessions. They agreed to these because joining the EU will bring them considerable benefits. But once they are admitted, nothing can stop them from going back on their supposed "reforms", because of inertia and the weight of history. Already the Turkish Prime Minister has said, "We intend to be a part of the EU. The decision has already been taken. We reject any other solution." This is the way M. Erdogan spoke to his compatriots who hailed him on December 17th as the "Conqueror of Europe." This new Ottoman Empire is preparing its revenge with the complicity of the leaders of Europe. And to get things rolling, if ten million Turks come to the Ile de France (Paris) after Ankara joins, then all France will be able to do is welcome them, feed them, and build them mosques.
For what reason has this problem been created, when it would have been so simple to leave things as they are: Europeans in Europe, Turks in Turkey, with peaceful and mutually beneficial relations?
Posted by Robert at January 10, 2005 7:28 AM
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Europe forgot its history. (Charles Martel anyone?)
Europeans, instead, loved the idea of cheap 'guest worker' streetcleaners and discount vacation spots on the Turkish coast.
They have sown the dhimmi wind.
Now they will reap the Muslim whirlwind.
Visit Europe soon! Before it becomes an Islamic Republic.
Then the rates will surely rise.
As Santayana said:
"Those who... uh... those who do not remember...
um......ah, hell... forget it."
Quo vadis?
Posted by: profitsbeard![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/nav-commenters.gif)
at January 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Which will prove sharper, the sword of Islam or the guillotine? Will the next Pelayo, Charles Martel, Richard Lionheart, or Jan Sobieski soon arise from the bosom of Europe? The circumstances will certainly be ripe for such an appearance.
I repeat: we are witness to once in a millenium events. Woe to us and curse upon the jihadi fools who may have already awakened Yamamoto's mythic Giant.
Posted by: Hulegu Khan at January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
How about that quote from Victor Hugo?!
Posted by: Mike at January 10, 2005 3:39 PM
THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM THE LESSONS OF HISTORY ARE FATED TO REPEAT THEM...
Am hopeful that even if corrupt and Dhimmi Western
Leaders take on 'the biggest Turkey of all', Islamo Fascists will explode themselves and others
before Arrogant Erdogan gets a chance to make another speech. There are many Miltant Muzzies in
Turkey literally frothing at the mouth at the thought of being joined to Western Infidels...let
the nature of Islam take its course and demonstrate its Stone Age Mindset and unfitness for anything except Islamic violence and Sharia!
Keep the Religion of Beheaders as far away as possible, slaughtering each other rather than us and the efforts of our ancestors will not have been entirely in vain.
Eyewitness French Account in 1757
"The Turks never succeeded in conquering Montenegro[next to Serbia] which is very devastated by Turkish attacks and because of them Montenegro is mostly unpopulated..."
Montenegrins fought constant guerilla war against
Turks to keep them out of Balkan Penisular.
Must be coincidence that Milosvic and Radovan K
are both Montenegrins eh!
at January 10, 2005 4:28 PM
Sid Lawson
Send the pdf doc to Charles Johnson of LGF. He may find it of interest and bring it to the attention of a different audience.
at January 10, 2005 5:15 PM
Europeans, instead, loved the idea of cheap 'guest worker' streetcleaners and discount vacation spots on the Turkish coast.
Do you have any idea of the foolishness you are saying? More than half of the European population doesn't want Turkey in (in some countries, more than 3/4 of the voting population are against the Turkish bid) but do you think that our politicians give a damn?
"Europeans loved the idea of cheap guest workers"... If I told you some of the things I have been hearing from regular joes, you wouldn't believe. And I am not talking about extremists, I am talking about centrists.
Who do you think that profits from the cheap labour? The weasels that keep their companies away from bankrupcy by paying miserable wages - not the ordinary guy, that in most cases works for someone else.
Posted by: alex221166 at January 10, 2005 5:27 PM
alex221166-
"Do [I] have any idea..." ?
Yes.
Many of my friends in Europe would agree with you that they wish something else were happening with their continent's direction, but the majority ("little guys" or not) are so conspicuous by their absence in this debate that they are de facto castrated by their lack of will. Both political and actual.
You must understand that you do not rouse people by praising their invisible qualities, but mocking their visible failings.
Let's see Europe wake up.
Prove me wrong.
Or start buying your khaftans and chadors now.
Before the price REALLY goes up.
Posted by: profitsbeard at January 10, 2005 9:30 PM
I have got a great idea....
100,000 Muslims died in the Tsunami.
Instead of sending food and water, how about sending Asia 100,000 replacements from France?
Posted by: Timbo at January 10, 2005 9:37 PM
It will take a 'Revolution of Ideas' to save what
is left of the political landscape of Europe.
Liberal/Socialist's/communists and so called conservative politicians have turned Europe into
EUrabia.Few outside the academic world have the
knowledge of how this sick utopian dream of the
Dhimmis came to fruition,but alas it has.So where
to now?,are we to sit idle and smile like the good EU Dhimmi?.As we sit here reading the excellent articles on Jihad and Dhimmitude our fate is being sealed in Brussels where they are
discussing the end of european free speech,we who
are not muslims will soon face prosecution for our opposition to Jihad,Sharia and Dhimmitude,
while the same Law makers tolerate the vile speeches from mosques where we are vilified daily,Their clerics scream how unclean our societies are.But still our media chooses not to
cover the real side of radical islam and fail to investigate the Quran to see does it offer any clues to their medievil behaviour.European citizens had better brace itself for the strong aftershock of Turkeys eventual entry into EUrabia.President Bush is a strong advocate of
Turkey in The EU? Why. After the way Erdogan played him over the Iraq war.Shame on an AMERICAN PRESIDENT advocating what will most certainly be the end of Europe as we know it.
at January 11, 2005 3:22 AM
"Turkey in The EU? Why. After the way Erdogan played him over the Iraq war.Shame on an AMERICAN PRESIDENT advocating what will most certainly be the end of Europe as we know it."
Well said sul3j.
For profitsbeard,
The fact that George Bush is one of the most passionate supporter of the Turkish EU membership is not really helping.
Posted by: gloria at January 11, 2005 4:55 AM
Sid:
It's not like Spencer not to answer e-mails. He's been having a lot of trouble with the mail system lately and a whole host of messages have gone missing (he even posted an article about it). Try again - try him both at director@jihadwatch.org and spencer952@hotmail.com. He gets hundreds of e-mails per day, but he is diligent about answering them all.
Posted by: CGW at January 11, 2005 6:58 AM
In Denmark some of us know very well what to come !
And we are fighting against it.
But a good part of the Danish people canīt belive
that the Turkish muslims in their way will act like those - from ME,Africa and Pakistan - we allready have in this country.
Those people means trouble, lots of troubles.
We are about 5 mill Danes.
And the muslims here -
3-4% of the population - cost us 30-35 billions DK. Kroner every singel year !!
They dislike us and our way of living - and they shows us every day that we are their working Dhimmies.
No days without threats about the comming Danish Khalifat.
No days without crimes.
No days without telling the Danes how the muslims despite us, are looking at us as dogs og pigs and how they want to increese their handling of us as haram infidele : " You Danes - just wait !"
Tired of the muslims ?
Dead-tired !!
at January 12, 2005 4:58 AM
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