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January 22, 2005

Anti-dhimmitude in Germany: hundreds of jihadists to be deported

It looks as if German patience is running out with liberal laws that have allowed jihadists to operate in the country, possibly even with welfare support from the German government. How long will it be before other countries — notably Britain — follow suit? "Germany to Deport Hundreds of Islamists - Magazine," from Reuters, with thanks to Louise:

BERLIN (Reuters) - German officials are drawing up lists of hundreds of Islamic militants to be deported from the country under a new law making expulsions easier, the German weekly magazine Der Spiegel said on Saturday....

Since the revelations in 2001 that Arab students who had lived for years in Hamburg led the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Germans have questioned their liberal laws under which some suspected militants even draw welfare benefits.

Interior Minister Otto Schily has suggested that evidence of training at an al Qaeda camp should be clear grounds for expelling a foreign national. Distributing videos calling for "holy war" could also be punished the same way.

Posted by Robert at January 22, 2005 3:41 PM
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Go Germany!

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2005 5:32 PM

Time for the US to follow Germany's example, deport them if they sneeze wrong.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2005 5:49 PM

Any quotation from Qur'an or Hadith, any citing of an act by Muhammad, that would tend to incite hatred of Unbelievers, or acts against them -- not "imminent" acts (no Brandenburg v. Ohio test here, for this is not American Constitutional law that is being discussed) should be banned. If the ban is violated, prompt un-appealable deportation.

Oh, and for a substitute Qur'an, why not Michael Sells' bowdlerized version. If it is good enough for Sells and Carl Ernst and others to push down the throats of unsuspecting University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill freshmen, as a substitute for the Qur'an, then by all means allow Muslims to read, and quote from, Sells' saccharine "Approaching the Qur'an." But only that version.

As for the Hadith, perhaps some non-Muslim muhaddithin can get together and winnow down Bukhari to those that have been hate-proofed.

And if Muslims complain that the Sells version is completely unlike the real thing? Ask them to take it up with Sells himself at Haverford. For he has some explaining to do, either to Muslims, or the Infidels whom he has been misleading with his dreamy "lyrical suras" version.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2005 5:55 PM

This is what has to happen. South Koreo is setting an example by not allowing muslims into their country. Germany is starting to set an example that we all must follow. We must deport muslims who breath jihad or sympatize with them. A prime example is that muslims in Canada and the U.S.A. who sypathized with the 19 hijackers should have been immediately deported. Since 9/11, we should have restricted immigration from muslim countries. All the muslims are doing is to exploit our freedoms to impose the sharia. That is their goal. Just ask ibraham hooper from c.a.i.r.

Posted by: Ummagumma [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 22, 2005 6:09 PM

There are good news, for preventing racism, xenofobia, intolerance, islamists out now!

Posted by: Franze [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2005 6:15 AM

Ummagumma:South Koreo is setting an example by not allowing muslims into their country.

Do you have a link? If such a policy is adopted in the West, it will bring the jihad to a complete stop.

In the UK, with elections in the offing, the Labour party is kow-towing to muslims in a manner that is truly shameful. I hope that they lose more votes then any that they gain from bowing to muslims.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 23, 2005 1:45 PM

Ummagumma: South Korea is setting an example by not allowing muslims into their country.

I have done a bit of googling and I can't seem to find any information that supports this claim.

Could you please provide the link to the website where you have got this information from.

I semi agree with DP111 that if western countries were to adopt this policy it would substantially diminsh the problem we are facing in the long run, but at the same time it would cause massive anti-western feelings in the rest of the world in the short term. In fact it would probably produce enough anti western sentiment to totally cancel out any good the policy would have in the long term.

Posted by: Earthling [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2005 6:19 AM

How times change. As a lawyer, Otto Schily used to defend terrorists from the Baader-Meinhof gang. Now he's getting ready to deport Muslim terrorists? Without appeal?

Wow.

Justice Department, please take note.

Posted by: Cato the Elder [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2005 12:48 PM

Earthling:

The policy will certainly evoke hostility among muslims around the world, but NOT all the people around the world. For instance, Hindus who comprise a billion people, will be quietly satisfied. Also mainly Christian Southern Africa, particularly Nigeria, will also be quite happy.

What is no doubt is that muslims will be enraged. But as they are already very enraged with the West, I dont see much increase in the rage factor. What will be apprant to all, including the islamic world, is that the days of them waging jihad on us, while we obstinately refuse to see that that as war, are over.

Such a policy is not possible now, but another 9/11 in the US or one in Europe, will start the process of moving towards such a policy.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 24, 2005 5:26 PM

Actually, didn't la belle France deport a few back to either Algeria or Morocco a year or so ago?

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2005 12:40 PM

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