I was just planning to post something about that story. Here is a Swedish Muslim website, where the forum members are bragging about shutting down freedom of speech:

http://www.sindbad.se/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3536

Here is some background information about the Islamic ban on figurative art:

http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/17/chap305.htm

Prohibition of Drawing Portraits

Posted by: Ali Dashti at February 3, 2005 10:48 AM

I have no doubt they would have taken it down in the US, also- while leaving that worthless anti-Christian piece of art in place (the Madonna). It would have been more fitting if it had been Of Madonna, not The Madonna...

Posted by: Gary at February 3, 2005 10:57 AM

"Darabi told Gothenburg Channel 4 television that her work was not meant "offend anyone but to stress the link between love and God symbolised by the Koran's text".

"Love and God symbolized by the koran's text." What love? What comic-book version of the koran was this crackpot reading? I guess that's what's called artistic license.

Posted by: 3812Michelle at February 3, 2005 11:03 AM

Let's gather our money and buy Hooper, Awad, and Ahmad a subscription to Playboy.......

Posted by: DCWatson at February 3, 2005 11:10 AM

Swedish meatballs.....They ought to be ashamed of themselves for allowing Muslims to dictate to them.

Posted by: DCWatson at February 3, 2005 11:19 AM

The so called arteests that spring from priviliged homes are so obsessed with embarassing the bourgeois (gratuitous nudity, placing a crucifux in urine and painting with menstral blood) but collapse under Muslim pressure? They are utterly useless in this fight.

They are so inept they can't/won't even step out of the path of an oncoming train...

Posted by: Kemaste at February 3, 2005 11:25 AM

Love isn't found anywhere in the Koran, but it is found in the New Testament. Artists and such who try to link the Koran with "love" are usually Western-born people trying to Christianize Islam and therefore make it both more palatable and more culturally understandable (in a Western context).

In a way, it is sad how they are trying to hold on to a Christian cultural construct Leftism with its relentless attacks on Christianity has taken Christianity away from them, so they can't return to the ancient religion of their lands, so they try to graft elements of that religion onto the new, politically correct religion that is supplanting it.

Ain't gonna work.

Posted by: Suzan at February 3, 2005 12:08 PM

The Rijksmuseum is burning.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at February 3, 2005 2:22 PM

The museum web site removed the painting but a cached version of the web page shows a thumbnail image, corresponding to a painting called "scene d'amour". A good picture of the painting from another web site is linked below. Can someone read the arabic script and translate for us?

Cached page:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:qgPHiIXnDlUJ:www.varldskulturmuseet.se/smvk/jsp/polopoly.jsp%3Fd%3D911%26l%3Den_US+Louzla+Darabi&hl=en&lr=lang_en|lang_fr

Picture of the banned painting:
http://www.galerie-herrmann.de/arts/darabi/scene-d%27amour01.htm

Posted by: joaquim at February 3, 2005 2:31 PM

Kemaste: Your are absolutely right. Most prominent Western artists and intellectuals today are nothing but a pack of over-ripe adolescent rebels who, when the chips are down, can only run catewauling to Mama. Maybe the directors of these museums need a spate of letters telling them what a bunch of snivelling cowards they are.

Posted by: Kepha1 at February 3, 2005 4:04 PM

Islam is anti-art, anti-music, and anti-personal expression. I am flabbergasted that something of this nature would be allowed to happen by the Dutch art community. They are cowed alright.

Having said that, I'll say that I never was a fan of the "piss-Christ" piece that a government grant paid for and which caused a stir a number of years ago myself. That money should have gone to a more worthy individual. There is art for art's sake and then there is art produced simply for its shock value. If I want to be shocked I'll just read the paper.

f.g.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction". Blaise Pascal

Posted by: f.g. at February 3, 2005 4:43 PM

Well I hope there were so tolerance and respect with christianity, because the past year a protestant priest have been imprisoned for saying that homosexuality was evil, but muslims don´t go in in prison, for poligamy, it would be racist. Poor western

Posted by: Franze at February 3, 2005 5:37 PM

Did anyone read the comments (in one of the attachments) re Van Gogh's 'Submission' and the anticipated 'part 2' of the same?

The comments of those Dutch film makers are just appalling: All a bunch of spineless and obviously spooked PeeCee advocates... weasels, no more, no less...

Everyone of them a coward, intimidated and fearful of the Muzzies in their midst, already defeated and in a state of 'submission'...

I spit on them!

Posted by: Terminator at February 3, 2005 6:16 PM

Pay no attention to that Imam behind the curtain.

Do I understand this correctly,their Prophet Muhammed can marry a 6 year old child and screw the ass off her when she reaches 9,but a picture of her scantly clad is obscene and should be banned .
Gott'a love the Islamic logic,in Submission a female that was whipped and abused to the point she had welts on her back,instead of being upset at the treatment of females like her,Muslims went into a tirade and even murdered the author in outrage that Quranic verses were projected onto the skin or the tortured area of her back.

Amazingly,this is how the Nazis started and the
SA(brown shirts) expanded to literature and even music written by Jews,they became the SS(Black shirts) and followed Hitler's orders no matter how
obsurd or horrific.

NO ISLAM - KNOW FREE SPEECH

Posted by: ala-sux at February 3, 2005 7:01 PM

Having read the prohibition against drawing a portrait (see the witness-pioneer website listed in Ali Dashti's post above) I have an observation and a conclusion.

It is a great Islamic sin to draw a poster of humans, animals, and all other things that have a soul in them.

So, all of those posters of Imams, Mullahs, Ayatollahs, etc., so frequently paraded about by fanatic Middle Eastern mobs, apparently depict people without souls.

Posted by: BobC at February 3, 2005 8:48 PM

Day in and day out, your Robert Spencer, like a Jerry Springer of intercultural relations, puts up yet another cherry-picked slander about a faith different than that of mainstream America.

And many of you people, just like Jerry Springer's pathetic audiences, eat it up.

What the hell is the point of your getting together to bash this religion anyway? This is hardly a debate forum; there's no exchange of new ideas...just a daily rehash of the same ol' "Fuck Islam!" Do you really think you're accomplishing anything?

You're like a bunch of kids trying to show how tough you are, taking turns beating a pinata with a turban on its head.

Posted by: mathandhumanity at February 3, 2005 9:41 PM

mathandhumanity:
Yes, that's right, F*ck Islam! It is an evil totalitarian system invented by some mentally ill man who lived in the desert in the 7th century. When he was not murdering people and raping their widows and orphans, he was stealing or thinking of stealing. What a thug! This is what passes for a prophet in the Arab world and still does to this day.
We are here to exchange ideas and sources if you have not noticed. If you want more education, rather than current events, you should go to: http://www.faithfreedom.org/

It is hosted by an ex-Muslim who is now an atheist and a brave and smart man. He is trying to help people recover from Islam and he does this in a very sympathetic and understanding manner. After all, he was once afflicted with this ideology. You should go to this web site if you are afflicted with Islam. You can even ask him some questions and he will answer them.
You can recover from this cult. Good luck.

Posted by: MetalMuncher at February 3, 2005 10:01 PM

mathandhumanity:
This is not about debate. This is about exposing an evil cult for what it is and to raise awareness!
This is about taking the veil off "The Religion of Peace" which has, and still brings misery to many parts of the world by conquest, slavery and mass-murder. Arab Imperialism exposed, this is what this is about!
To compare JW with Jerry Springer is a very shallow attemt to diminish the efforts of many who contribute to this site.

What do you know about Islam, Jihad, the Qu'ran, hadiths etc?
What does the average Jo know about what's really going on in the so called Islamic world and in countries, which are being overrun by Muslims with the aim of establishing Dhar al Islam?
If you think you have a case to debate, go ahead!

People here have a problem with suicide bombers, Bali, Beslan, 9/11 and we are doing something about it: We are telling people what Islam is: A murderous, criminal cult that brings death and destruction. Anything but a Religion, but a militant Ideology based on conquest and booty, that is Islam, and not simply 'a faith that is different then that of mainstream America'.

If you educate yourself and post intelligent questions, you will find answers here. If you wish to debate, go ahead.
I suspect you are a Muslim troll knocking the site for what it is. Should this be the case I am sorry having wasted my time for answering your post...

Posted by: Terminator at February 3, 2005 10:06 PM

mathandhumanity:
I can see that you are afflicted with Islam as you display the characteristic anger and hatred of a true believer. Try not to murder anybody this week.

At least on this website we do not display pictures of people we want to kill like Islamic websites. There, it's like a bunch of criminals who get together and decide who they should murder next. They don't take verbal swipes at a pope hat, but talk of holding up severed heads in their next snuff film.

I bet the Muzzies who did the Armonius family s@xually assaulted the corpses of the girls. I'm sure the police will never make that detail public as it would dehumanize these particular followers of the religion of peace (ROP). The ringleader most likely recruited his accomplices by promising them the transcendent experience of raping a dying woman. Nothing has the emotional impact of s@x or death, and probably these geniuses decided to combine the two in an hours-long satanic f*ck-fest. Postmortem, they probably took turns with the girls' corpses they were so turned on. For them, it was like a little piece of heaven. I'm surprised these demons could even pull themselves away from their new girlfriends.

One of the muzzies probably boasted, "F*ck, I bet not even Mohammed, peace be upon him, ever f*cked a dying chick!"

Posted by: MetalMuncher at February 3, 2005 10:35 PM

Know your Muzzies:

MicroMuzzie: No prayer, part-time agnostic. No courage to commit to any religious position. May engage in porno films and have relations with kafirs. Is actually embarrassed by his association with Islam. Hides koran.

MiniMuzzies: The so-called moderates who either shake their heads at what new atrocity their brethren commit or they just smirk. Prayer is optional with this crowd, but they will lie about it to friends and relatives. Porn is allowed with this crowd. Koran knowledge optional.

Muzzie: Whines about civil rights and day-dreams during prayers and on Friday at the Mosque. No porno, but snuff films are OK. Watches Al-Jazeera just for the snuff film internet links. Honor killings not a requirement. One might also call this the "swinging sword" crowd. Wife and dozen children are frightened of him. Knowledge of the koran a status symbol. This is the 10-15% of all Muzzies. Also called Islamist.

SuperMuzzie: Thinks he is really talking to god. Usually has disciples. Makes his own snuff films if he can find the kafirs to sacrifice. Secretly dreams of having a threesome with Mohammed and Osama bin Laden. Formal Koranic scholarship usually required. Young boys a turn-on. Women wear burquas in the house. Wife beating mandatory. Honor killings may be so frequent that the fireplace doubles as a crematoria-sifts ashes for the gold fillings. Wife is addicted to Valium and has several daughters who visited Grandma and never came back. Several sons in prison.

MegaMuzzie: Usually a free-lance pseudoscholar or ex-convict with a multi-million dollar price tag on his head from several governments. Does not sleep in one place more than one day. Family money not a necessary, but strongly encouraged. Messianic delusions a requirement.
Has trouble distinguishing himself from Mohammed. Women in separate rooms of the house from men. Marries off daughters before age 12. They might menstrate in the house (cave). Must have a series of snuff films to ones credit. Your disciples must explode themselves at your command to be considered for this category. Murder of children not necessary, but always a plus. For this person, all other non-disciples of MegaMuzzies are kafirs, meaning most of the Muslim world. Would behead 97% of Muslims for apostacy if allowed. Prefers milk from she-camels if still warm and free of flies. Must be no less than 10 miles from the nearest kafir or 100 miles from the nearest Jew. Prefers caves in Judenrein (Jew free) countries. Dreams of a receptive homosexual relationship with allah.

Posted by: MetalMuncher at February 4, 2005 12:07 AM

Tell you what mathandhumanity , find some articles that elucidate the goodness of Islam and expound on its benevolence, kindness, charity, and pluralism. Post a few flattering articles about the affection and respect muslims have for non-muslims. Name one muslim philanthropist, one recent Islamic contribution to humanity--all of humanity, not just the ummah. Name one example of Islamic relief or charity to the non-muslim world. We would LOVE to read them.
Many people visit this website. They come here to learn about the deadliest threat America (and the entire Western world) has ever faced---Islam. The truth abounds on this site; is that what bothers you? If you want to feel all fuzzy and warm about Islam, go to taqiyya-on-line or read Karen Armstrong, Esposito,or the Ayatollah Kohmeini's illustrious contributions to literature and the enlightenment of mankind.

How dare you compare Mr. Spencer with Jerry Springer? As you well know, there are no comparisons between the two men or what they do. Mr. Spencer is a respected scholar and renowned author. Although he faces daily death threats and lives in hiding, he works tirelessly to educate Americans about Islam. He does this difficult, dangerous work without recompense. He is a pioneer in a new world where cowards and moral relativists reign, where political correctness is more sacred than life itself, and where idiot leftists are either blind to the existence of pure evil, or embrace and support it. This world is full of Islamic apologists and appeasers, as well as muslim butchers who kill people for telling the truth about their death cult.

Despite threats to his personal safety and endless muslim accusations of his ignorance and Islamophobia, Mr. Spencer is not cowed or intimidated, and he tirelessly and fearlessly exposes Islam for all to see. We laud and appreciate his hard work and perseverance and so should you, unless you have something to hide.

Posted by: Susanp at February 4, 2005 12:38 AM

You laud and appreciate the work of a man who is widening a chasmal cultural divide, and escalating tensions and hatred among the peoples of this world.

I have no doubt, there is more hatred in the world today--on all sides--because of Robert Spencer.

I will never laud that.

Posted by: mathandhumanity at February 4, 2005 5:05 AM

Metal Muncher: That was great! A real keeper!

Posted by: Just_Linda at February 4, 2005 7:00 AM

Thanks to Robert Spencer I have gained a much greater awareness about, and knowledge of, atrocities commited against mankind in the name of religion than I would otherwise be aware of.

I will always laud that.

Posted by: obl r us at February 4, 2005 7:01 AM

http://www.spectator.se/stambord/index.php?p=531#comments

Of all the cries for tolerance over at Sinbad, the “meeting place for Scandinavia’s” Muslims, this one was our favorite: “[The artist] should take this as a warning, not a threat…MAY ALLAH GUIDE US AND ANNILATE ISLAM’S ENEMIES.”

But no, this is most definitely not a threat…

Posted by: Ali Dashti at February 4, 2005 7:02 AM

MetalMuncher:

Love that 'Know your Muzzies' piece - really made me laugh.

Mathandhumanity:

'I have no doubt, there is more hatred in the world today--on all sides--because of Robert Spencer.'

I think Robert Spencer would be flattered to think he had so much power!

Don't worry, the hatred on JW is more than offset by the gentle, tolerant preaching coming out of the Wahhabi mosques.

Posted by: Interestd at February 4, 2005 7:02 AM

Mathandhumanity.

I guess that Osama Bin Laden doesn't rate as high as Robert Spencer in your list of world's greatest haters of humanity, huh?

Posted by: Voltaire at February 4, 2005 7:18 AM

Ali Dashti,

So I guess that muslims shouldn't watch television then.

Posted by: Voltaire at February 4, 2005 7:20 AM

LOVE from Bible

Open Bible
Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians. Then Americans and Britons used them in AbuGhraib.

Let me mention just a few verses from the Old Testament and New Testament and tell me what do you say about them:
"When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

"When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deutronomy 20:10-17)
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, sparefor yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:
"I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence." (Luke 19:26-27)

HA exposes christianity

Posted by: xyz at February 4, 2005 7:31 AM

mathandhumanity
- you say...

"What the hell is the point of your getting together to bash this religion anyway?"

Islam is a fascistic, dogmatic, expansionist religion which promotes violence as a religious duty.

Christianity has many warlike tales in the Old Testament, but it never commands its believers to convert by the sword and subdue others - nor does any other major religion, except Islam. This is not religious slander, the Koran is VERY CLEAR about this, and there are hundreds of millions of people who accept this Islamic call to arms as their duty to God. If that's not frightening - please tell me what is?

You sound like a young man; I encourage you to read more. This isn't about being right wing, blindly pro-American or racist ( I am none of these) - it's simply about what the Koran says and what Muslims do. It's that simple.

You judge too quickly. Don't just throw mud at something you don't understand. If you have any valid and specific criticisms there are many here who can give you detailed, reasonable and sane answers.

The stories here are often about religious murders and atrocities. Math - these are real people. These are real tragedies. I've been to places like Bangladesh, I've met tribal people who are persecuted by Muslims. Jerry Springer peddles trash, but their suffering is REAL. Don't trivialize the suffering of millions of persecuted people. It's not right.

"You're like a bunch of kids trying to show how tough you are, taking turns beating a pinata with a turban on its head." Math - we're not beating up anybody, we are actually protesting against the beaters and sticking up for the beaten. If you truly hate bigotry then you're attacking the wrong people.

Posted by: Timbo at February 4, 2005 9:00 AM

PREVIOUSLY POSTED....

Yes XYZ
We know your type. You drop in here; dump a pile of Islamic mumbo-jumbo gobbledygook, then when people ask you serious questions you simply disappear. Congratulations - you've done your little dollop of spiritual Jihad and given us a few vacuous quotes and a stack of empty rhetoric. Wow, we are so impressed.
How about answering some serious questions?
The New Testament openly contradicts and replaces much of the philosophy of the Old Testament. This is called "the new covenant" which was purchased with the blood of Jesus. The fact that you quote the Old Testament as an authority, shows that you are completely ignorant of Christian theology. In fact Muslims are just ignorant, full stop. Debate, human rights, democracy, science - it's all a complete mystery to you people. All you know how to do is kill and destroy, because some child-molesting poetical bandit from the Dark Ages ordered you to die so you can go to porno sex slave heaven.
OK you want to debate with the infidel? ….
Here’s something…
How on earth were Roman taxes (tribute) the same as Jizya جزية.? The chief form of tax in the Roman Empire was the land-tax, based on a survey dividing land into private property. There was also the annona, paid in grain and devoted to the maintenance of the military establishment. Everybody paid this, Christians, Romans, Pagans, Druids, Greeks, Egyptians - everybody. Muslims seek to make “infidels” pay more taxes, but Roman citizens in fact paid a further 5% “legacy” which Roman subjects (conquered peoples) were exempt from (until Caracalla extended the citizenship to all provincials). So the Roman tax system – the one that Jesus (Son of God, of the trinity, who died on the cross) justified, was the complete opposite of the oppressive Jizya.
You don’t know history … but then again what does a Muslim know?
I know I’m talking to a brick wall.
Quote this to your Jihadist friends:
Isaiah 19:17 (King James Version)
And the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt…
Posted by: Timbo at February 3, 2005 08:00 PM
XYZ says:
"Jews need to get out of Palestine, while Christians must stop supporting the Jews. Also USA has no business in Afghanistan and Iraq, occupying these countries and stealing their resources."
Hmmmm....
Timbo says:
Muslims need to get out of the West, while Muslims must stop supporting terrorists. Also Muslims have no business in Europe and America (and Australia), infecting other countries (with their primitive hostile barbarism) and stealing their wealth.

..........
Every time I talk to Muslims, they don't take responsibility for anything. Everything they blame on the West. What is this? - Paranoia? Racism? A festering inferiority complex? Why can't you just be honest and admit that your heartless, monstrous religion is the author of your misfortunes - NOT US.
If we want to support Israel, THE ONLY FUNCTIONAL DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST then we will! It tells us in the Bible to pray for Israel, and we are not going to ignore this just because a bunch of alien fascists tell us to. Personally I don't think Israel even needs our support, they kicked Arab butts in four wars and I'm sure they could do it ten more times without our help. Note: This is what happens when God is on your side.
My main grudge against Israel and the Jews is that they are too soft on you people. You were conquered by the Jews, a superior civilization, the chosen people of God - woe to the vanquished. Read the Bible a bit more - it tells you they would come back; it also tells you how to be descent civilized human being.
Jesus loves you - progressive modern civilization doesn't.
Posted by: Timbo at February 3, 2005 08:35 PM
XXY(*) says:
"In fact, fear mongering by using Islaam and/or Muslims has become a multi billion-dollar business in USA alone."
I WISH!!!!!! I WISH!!!!!
(*) ”XXY boys do not progress normally through puberty. Their testes remain child-sized and therefore do not produce enough of the male hormone testosterone. As adolescents, XXY boys are taller than average and may lack facial hair. About one-third of XXY boys will develop enlarged breasts, a condition known as gynecomastia. This is different than just fat accumulation that gives the appearance of having breasts--it is true breast development.” http://rarediseases.about.com/cs/sexchromosome/a/092900.htm
Posted by: Timbo at February 3, 2005 08:49 PM
Timbo:
You are masterful - however, you are feeding the troll. ;-)
Come on up to the current threads - I doubt this troll will even see your response. There's one called "whitequeen" (a British convert, no less) that you'd love to take on.
Posted by: CGW at February 4, 2005 06:05 AM

Posted by: Timbo at February 4, 2005 9:13 AM

You laud and appreciate the work of a man who is widening a chasmal cultural divide, and escalating tensions and hatred among the peoples of this world.

I have no doubt, there is more hatred in the world today--on all sides--because of Robert Spencer.

I will never laud that.

Posted by: mathandhumanity at February 4, 2005 05:05 AM

I laud this man for having the courage to EXPOSE THE TRUTH about an insidious, parasitic BEAST.
How would you propose to close the "cultural divide" that exists between the West and Islam, have everyone convert to Islam? Because that is the only way it will ever be closed.
Sure, we could bury our heads in the sand like the Europeans have done and become servile sycophants, useful idiots who aid and abet this vile and dangerous ideology.
If you believe that tolerating the most intolerant creed on earth will be reciprocated or appreciated, you are a fool. I happen to believe that Western Civilization is far superior to Islam and that it is worth preserving, even if that means broadcasting the ugly truth about Islam by any and all means possible. If muslims in the West feel threatned by this, too damned bad! Islam is diametrically opposed to everything the West stands for and until they revise their attitudes and doctrine accoringly, which will never happen, they are fair game. They invaded our territory voluntarily and they can voluntarily retreat to the Islamic hellholes of their choice.
Muslims don't want to close the "cultural divide", they want a universal Islamic culture.
Close your eyes, go back to sleep, and have sweet dreams about the utopian, mulicultural Eden that you long for. By all means keep believing that "all people are basically the same."

Posted by: Susanp at February 4, 2005 12:13 PM

XYZ

I've looked up your bible quote

"Even in the New Testament we read the following statement attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:
"I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence." (Luke 19:26-27)

HA exposes christianity"

This is part of a parable about an angry king. You took it completely out of context. Jesus was not talking about himself.

Observe: There is nothing more deceitful than a religious Muslim.

Jesus begins...

A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a Kingdom... (Luke 19:12)

Your quote is the end of that story.

You crafty, illusory, underhanded warmonger! Go and peddle your vile cult of death elsewhere.

Posted by: Timbo at February 4, 2005 6:20 PM

To Timbo:

xyz posted the same bible quote here at dimmiwatch about a month ago, in a reply to my posts about Jesus trying to spread humanitarian concepts. I immediately looked up the bible and found out what you did and posted it that info back here as a reply to xyx' b.s. He know's what he is doing. This is the second time he has tried this. Yes, he is completely full of pig s__t.

Posted by: obl r us at February 4, 2005 7:17 PM

Outstanding posts, Timbo. Susan too.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at February 4, 2005 8:56 PM

Islam can "Gogh" to hell,and take Muhammed with it.

NO ISLAM -KNOW PEACE

Truely amazing,it's the Muslim men that have no selfcontrol to keep their dick in their pants,so the females are punished by having to cover their bodies.

So that's how the hijackers were suckered into being a homocide killer on 9/11,the promise of actually finding a female that would put up with their bad breath and B.O. must have drove them crazy to the point of embracing ignorance and murdering for Allah's cause.

Posted by: ala-sux at February 4, 2005 9:38 PM