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From the Dutch Blog Zacht Ei, with thanks to Ali Dashti:
All hail Mrs. VerdonkA few months ago, our immigration secretary Rita Verdonk was lambasted in the press for daring to comment on an imam who refused to shake her hand.
Now, it seems more people are willing to stand up for their right to be treated as human beings.
An Islamic man in The Hague will not be receiving his Social Security
allowance this month for being unwilling to greet female employers of the Sociale Dienst (Social Services). In some Dutch media, the story is being spun as if the man is being punished for not wanting to shake hands. That's not the whole story. The statute of this particular office of the Sociale Dienst allows for religious people who are forbidden to touch women to express themselves in another way, for example by nodding or bowing. But this particular guy didn't want to greet women in any way....
Posted by Robert at March 21, 2005 2:49 PM
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In this world people only appreciate what they deserve.
The fact that he was expressing absolutely no gratitude for the help being given him shows that he is completely unworthy of it.
How about the expression 'Throwing pearls before swine', if that isn't offensive to Muslims.
Posted by: Elephant
at March 21, 2005 3:05 PM
Why any Social Security allowance at all to someone who is a convinced enemy of the Dutch state, the Dutch political and social arrangements, someone who has no interest in polity, in the history, in the literature, in the language, in the painting, in the science, in the sense of humor, in any thing at all that makes Holland Holland. He is interested in staying there, staying on the dole, and whipping up his followers to procreate, and to eventually take over the country from its indigenous inhabitatnts. These are patient colonialists who, for the moment, cannot succeed at direct military conquest, but have found another way.
But that way would not exist if they were expelled, and not one by one, but in large numbers. And there is certainly no need to support them who does not, in turn, fully support -- and cannot support -- the existence of Holland, and the legacy that the Dutch may just begin, after their idiotic flirtation with a nonsensical policy of "tolerance" -- a "tolerance" that has led to the deaths of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh, that forces the leader of a major political movement, the native-born Geert Wilders, to move from army base to army base for security reasons, and much the same for the threatened Ayaan Hirsi Ali. A million Muslims in Holland has made the at country far more unpleasant, edgy, expensive, and physically dangerous for the Dutch themselves (and for all Western travellers to Holland, who might just like to see a Vermeer or two in situ).
Deprive him "for a month"? No, wrack your brains, and figure out to make Holland unlivable for him, beginning, but not ending, with getting him off the Dutch dole.
Posted by: Hugh
at March 21, 2005 4:48 PM
Some nice new paperback edition of C. Snouck Hurgronje's works on Islam would certainly be welcome in Holland. And if that Busy Bee Publishing House wishes to do something to protect the paintings in the Rijksmuseum and the Mauritshuis, wishes to do something in memory of Anne Frank, it could do worse than not only to publish, in a cheap edition, Snouck Hurgronje, but also Bat Ye'or, Ibn Warraq, Spencer, and so on -- so that the Dutch can fully inform themselves about what they are dealing with. And they, in turn, can perhaps help lead the rest of Europe out of its deliberate darkness into painful, but necesary, enlightenment.
One doesn't wish to see Europe on its deathbed, its last few words inaudible over the muezzin's shrill cry to prayer from menacing minarets all over the country, but one can guess what those words might be: "Mehr Lichtenberg." Or perhaps, echoing Emperor Maximilian and his valet before the firing-squad in Mexico, when one turned to the other and exclaimed, just before the shots were fired: "You said it would not come to this. You see that you were wrong."
Posted by: Hugh
at March 21, 2005 4:55 PM
Or if not "Mehr Lichtenberg" then possibly "Mehr (Christoph) Luxenberg." As that French grammarian quoted the other day said, both are correct.
Posted by: Hugh
at March 21, 2005 5:14 PM
Oh but Islam treats women so wonderfully! Isn't that right, Julia Roach (and all other recently converted twits)? Yes, it treats women with dignity and respect, like precious jewels. I'm sure that's exactly how I'd feel if some arrogant little prick wouldn't even acknowledge my presence. Of course! I'd feel oh so special and adored.
/sarcasm off
Posted by: feralee
at March 21, 2005 9:42 PM
During last years Election in Canada a female Muslim candidate was caught on video refusing to shake the hand of her Party Leader and left him
to stumble through the line of others ready to shake his hand.
One thing that was a bit odd was that a non-Muslim Female Liberal won in their own ridding
which was a Arab/Muslim/Palestinian population,her anti-American rants played well with her voters.
The Female Muslim candidate that had a large MiddleEast voting pool ran on the platform of
family social supports and immigrant issues,oh well,seems she should have followed the American basher since she lost the Election in her area.
I'm finding an overt arrogance from some Muslims that actually believe they're better than anybody else and 5 billion non-Muslims on Earth should
be the ones to accomadate THEIR perception of reality and morals.
The best way to solve this issue is to beat Muslims at their own game,all that's needed is for a infidel to go public with a desire to never shake hands with Muslims.
CAIR will jump on the issue and start a National campaign to have all Muslims demand that non-Muslims shake the hands of Muslims,this will expose all the Muslim bigots that refuse to shake hands with the infidels.
Companies can announce that they'll have make-shift prayer areas so Muslims will stay on the job site,this will trigger a demand by Muslims to
attend a local Mosque for their prayers,Muslim will now look for employment close to Mosques as a form of protest.
I noticed Muslims will bitch no matter
what happens so its better to trick them into doing what you want by implying that they can't do it because of company policy.
We're not dealing with the brightest Muslims since CAIR has such low standards.
at March 21, 2005 11:35 PM
I'm finding an overt arrogance from some Muslims that actually believe they're better than anybody else ...
You notice that too, ala-sux? I get a good laugh at their attitude of superiority considering their backwardness and barbarity. Look at Islamic countries. They're dumps. Nothing to show for. No art, music, literature, theatre, scientific or medical breakthroughs, etc. Anything they have is via other non-Islamic societies and cultures. All they do is create ways to inflict misery and death, on their own, and on the rest of the world. And they feel superior for this??? What a joke. And it's a bigger joke that they can't see this themselves. Blind arrogance.
Posted by: feralee
at March 22, 2005 12:56 AM
they dont even take of their hats/caps when entering your home
Posted by: shiva
at March 22, 2005 8:19 AM
whats even worse they will absalutely refuse to pat your dog
Posted by: shiva
at March 22, 2005 8:25 AM
The imam was only expressing the foreign policy of the Arab world towards the Western world.
"Trick or treat,smell my feet,now give me something good to eat."
JLP
Posted by: John Lee Pedimore
at March 22, 2005 12:14 PM


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