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April 16, 2005

Dhimmitude at Manchester Community College

Michael Abdelmessih was hired to teach at Manchester Community College in Manchester, Connecticut. But when he started to teach about jihad, he found himself out of a job. Here is his statement (thanks to Jerry Gordon):

My name is Michael Abdelmessih. I am a Coptic Christian. I have an MS in Political Science from Southern Connecticut State University on 1/19/2004. My research was entitled: ”The History and Rise of Militant Islamic Fundamentalism.“

I was hired by Manchester Community College to teach a course entitled ”Understanding Militant Islamic Fundamentalism.” In total, six students signed up for the class -- of which two are faculty of Manchester community college, both Muslim. One of the faculty member name is Fatima. She is from Egypt she teaches economics in the ommunity college. The other one name is Dianna.

Two months ago, both faculty members asked Ann Bonney, the director of non credit courses, to change the title of the course. Ann Bonney explained the situation to me, and we agreed to make some changes in the proposal. I have the original proposal with the changes made by Ann Bonney as my evidence.

I started teaching the course on April 9, 2005. The course was from 10:00 A.M, to 12:30 P.M. Then my academic supervisor contacted me last week before I started the course and told me she would send police for protection. Also, she changed the room assignment, and instructed me on how to call the police if I had any problems from the Muslim community or from the both Muslim faculty members.

I gave the students at the first meeting of the class a summary of some books (Exporting the American Gospel, Jewish Fundamentalism, History of Islam, Battle for God), some websites (on The history of Judaism and Christianity, as well as Islam.com), and some articles from the internet (on psychological fundamentalism, and others). We had a few discussions in general about general "fundamentalism." When I started talking about jihad, I was constantly interrupted because the two faculty members, Fatima and Dianna, claimed that Jihad doesn’t mean attacking non-Muslims, but means “protecting Islam.” Then in the middle of the class I received threats from Fatima, the Egyptian faculty member and student. She made it clear she would “contact the Egyptian government” and she said: “Believe me, you not will continue this course.”

The class was over. I went on a trip to Washington, D.C. While eating dinner last night, April 15th, I got a call from Ann Bonney of Manchester Community College. I was told that I no longer will teach the course because of “a few grammatical errors in the notes” I handed to students. On the other hand, my academic supervisor told me the college will pay me for the course, but I won’t teach the course.

More on this as it becomes available.

Posted by Robert at April 16, 2005 5:58 PM
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Unbelievable.

This person, kj, is whom you should be defending.

http://www.historytextbooks.org/islam.htm

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 6:31 PM

What is a "Coptic" Christian?

Posted by: Ramaz [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 6:31 PM
What is a "Coptic" Christian?
It's here.

History

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 6:52 PM

If this were Manchester England I'd be less concerned, but when an American school can't take the heat from two junior jihadi gals who are in denial about the meaning of "jihad in action in the present day world" (can't they use the many popular search engine functions to examine the problem, -beheadings and all?), then the system is getting too flaky at the edges to hold.

I'd advise all to contact the school and ask what the deal is on Monday, and say "I was getting ready to enroll for just such an enlightening liberal arts course, but, if they are supressing free speech and intellectual inquiry, then I would have to contact the Connecticut state director of education and see what is going on in Manchester."

Hang in there, Mike A.

The good work is hard work.

Emulate the bull terrier.

It gets a grip on its object -and never lets go.

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 8:04 PM

This is what is happening all over the Western world. One cannot discuss the central elements of Islam. One can provide, and even ram down the throats of unsuspecting freshmen, the sanitized version of the Qur'an (Michael Sells's "Approaching the Qur'an," which Carl Ernst finds to be a completely unremarkable and appropriate text, rather than a comically, or perhaps sinisterly, misleading one). MESA Nostra has seized control of most departments of MIddle Eastern studies, where emphasis seems to be on the Centrality of the Existence of Israel in the History of Arabs and Muslims, and where such subjects as classical Persian literature are scanted in favor of the "Arab political novel," where Islam itself is carefully left untaught, or taught only as a brief unit in a course on World Religions (where of course the poor trusting students only get the usual Five Pillars of Worship, and all the geopolitics are left out).

Thanks to the takeover by the determined myrmidons of MESA NOSTRA, neither Joseph Schacht nor anyone else at his level could conceivably be hired, or if accidentally hired, could conceivably be promoted in American and European universities today.

And the students, the helpless, hapless students, seldom realize, so easily won over are they by the transparent affability (oh, there's plenty of that affability to go round, and the chicken-and-pita dinners at the instructor's house, and the constant patter about those crazed critics of the situation, all of them of course neatly placed as Sharon's amen corner or Jerry Falwell's brigade, as if those who had been most piercing in their criticisms were neither, but in fact were such ex-Muslims as Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who know perfectly well what the totalitarian Total Belief System of Islam is all about, and some of them know the history of Jihad-conquest which, it appears, a certain Fatima on the faculty was determined to monitor -- Muslims routinesly show up at every gathering where they suspect someone may demonstrate a dangerous knowledge of Islam, and of course they attempt, by their mere presence, to intimidate and inhibit all concerned. This is, of course, the same principle that the Nazis used in the early days, to shut their critics up.


This case must be pursued. It must be written about. The faculty members involved, and those in the administration who would not fight the intimidation (and they had better be prepared to explain just what it is that they found inaccurate with Mr. Abdelmissih's proposed list -- which sounds as if, in fact, it was far too gentle on Islam, what with including the absurd book by that well-known apologist for Islam, Karen Armstrong).

In Connecticut, don't let this go. Make it a test -- not of Mr. Abdelmessih, but of the state involvement in public education, in the Administration, and above all, in the activities of the two Muslims who "enrolled" in the course because they had a sudden interest in finding out about Jihad. But of course they knew all about Jihad. They just wanted to keep it under wraps -- no need to alarm, or inform, those silly Infidels. Not yet, anyway.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 8:16 PM

A little more than a decade ago, a distinguished gentleman from the State Department, an Arabist with service in Yemen, explained to me what an admirable system the Jews remaining in that country lived under, as "clients" of various Muslim chieftains. As the description wore on, it sounded suspiciously like some kind of slavery or serfdom.

I couldn't help myself, and, sensing a place where I could draw some rhetorical blood, said, "Ah, yes. Isn't it good to know there's a place where minorities still know their place?"

You should've seen the look on his face!

It sounds to me as if we have the same problem at Manchester Community College, except with other people.

Posted by: Kepha [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 9:05 PM

The Muslim Egyptians ALWAYS expect for their second class citizens, the Coptic Christians, to know their place...on the symbolic back of the bus. The rule applies to the dhimmi Christians, whether they are in Egypt or in the USA. That is the reason that when Coptic Christians dared to implicate Muslims in the horrible New Jersey murders a few months ago, for good reason, the Muslims made the implications worse than the gruesome murders. Obviously, Michael A. forgot his place when he signed the contract to teach about Islamism! Those two instructors were there to remind him of his proper place, which they wished was cleaning the bathrooms or wiping the floors and not at the head of a classroom. I hope that Michael A. follows up on this situation, although as an instructor with just a semester's contract, he might have a difficult time. It's too bad there is not a CAIR-like organization to step up and help him right this obvious injustice.

Posted by: maryrose [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 9:34 PM

Off subject, but could not resist:

From the Captains Quarters:
…"In the first place, exactly which Islamist groups qualify as "moderate"? (My friend friend Brian "Saint Paul" Ward wondered if it refers to Islamists who toss rocks underhand at shari'a stonings.)"

Right on Dude! Right on!

Posted by: BillR [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 9:48 PM

This letter from Michael Abdelmessih certainly begs for follow-up as other hot button items have in the past on JW and DW.

Hopefully some of the commenters can get to the meat of this the story.

"It's too bad there is not a CAIR-like organization to step up and help him right this obvious injustice" --

By maryrose

P.S. I gather you where being facetious on that comment?

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 16, 2005 10:47 PM

Well, there's the ACLU...

Wait, never mind.

Why again am I a leftist?

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 12:40 AM

Here is a link to the catalog. The course description is on page 28: MCC.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 12:52 AM

Director of Credit-Free Programs:

Ann Bonney
abonney@mcc.commnet.edu
(860) 512-2800

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 1:02 AM

Hulequ Khan-

Fast work! Good links! Thanks!

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 1:54 AM

I don't know why people haven't picked up on this:
"Then in the middle of the class I received threats from Fatima, the Egyptian faculty member and student. She made it clear she would “contact the Egyptian government” and she said: “Believe me, you not will continue this course.”"
This is a death threat to members of Michael's family. We have two instructors on an American College campus isssuing death threats. They ought to be fired and Fatima ought to be deported to the Islamotopia of her choice, maybe Chad with polygamy and legal wife-beating. She's obviously in a country with the wrong ideals for her.

Posted by: Jabba the Tutt [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 8:06 AM

Mackie: What I meant about a CAIR-like organization was a legal/public relations firm that could operate like CAIR and effectively take up the cause for people like Michael A. who are bullied by Muslims in the US. Whatever else CAIR is, it is successful in many of its efforts. I imagine that he will have to hire a lawyer, at great personal expense to himself, to try to obtain some justice. I think that Jabba had a good point. Fatima, the instructor who enrolled in the class, implicated threats against Michael and his family in Egypt. Of course, she knows that in Egypt, the government and its corrupt law enforcement agencies will be happy to comply and punish Michael for leaving the dhimmi plantation. They have many options: they might do this by the shutting down a family business, arresting a family member on false charges or partcipate in a kidnapping/rape of one of Michael's female relatives. Hopefully, Michael is keeping records of everything, including all contacts by Fatima and her associates.

Posted by: maryrose [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 8:42 AM

Fatma Antar, professor of economics at MCC.

Head of the school’s Muslim Student Association, or MSA:

http://www.mcc.commnet.edu/HermesWebApp/pageFactory/?pagespec=400

Signatory to this 'Say no to Pipes' campaign:

http://www.actsofconscience.net/Pipes/ToEditors.html

Member of the Committee for Social Justice and Peace, mentioned here as inviting Scott Ritter for a little America bashing:

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-ritter0408.artapr08,1,2155919.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-7day&ctrack=1&cset=true

Member of the Parents Circle: Bereaved Families Supporting Peace, reconciliation and Tolerance in Israel/ Palestine, sounds good, except I found the link at Al-Awda.org (the Palestinian Right to Return Coalition):

http://al-awda.org/ctupcomingevents/

she's also mentioned under 'accomplishments' at the same site:

http://al-awda.org/ctaccomplishments2002/

And gets a mention on Campus Watch:

http://www.campus-watch.org/eventspast.php

And this gem, where there is no distinction between liberal and islamist:

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views01/1216-01.htm

However, belonging to all these groups, committees and coalitions, and of course taking the time to heckle another professor during class, has taken away from her classroom performance, as noted here:

http://ratemyprofessors.ca/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=68480

ha-ha.

I just cut a check to CT w/ my tax return, sad to see what my money contributes to.

I'd love to hear what the other students in the class have to say.

Posted by: khamr [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 9:00 AM

maryrose:

I pretty much gathered as much from your first comment, that's why I read it as facetious in nature. Your point about getting better support for those who are threatened and confronted by the totalitarian Ideology of Islam is well taken. There are many teachers that have been subjugated by confronting the Islamic militant tenets , such as professor Thomas klocek of Chicago's De Paul University,
Check out Joseph Farah's new article in World Net Daily and see what happens to people who disagree with Islam on campuses.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43819

and Jackson Heights citizen Christine Withers where highlighted on JH. I think there was a justice group looking into the Withers case.

Mackie

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 10:44 AM

Geoff:

You aren't alone in feeling like a disaffected leftist. There are more than a few of us who cannot believe what is being paraded around as "left" which boils down to not much more than anti-American/anti-Jewish/anti-Israeli anti-interventionism, rather than pro-peace, pro-democratic humanist sentiments.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 12:30 PM

waterdragon52-

"pro-peace" is nice, but remember the "pro-peace" people during the American Revolution were often like those Quakers mentioned by Thomas Paine in his book "Common Sense", who were for being SO peace-loving, pacifistic, and passive that they were for acquiescing to the King of England's will (divine right of kings) and not fighting for American freedom.

When looking at those signs on lawns in very "pro-peace" areas (more in evident just as the Iraq War began) that said:

"War Is not the Answer"-

I was tempted to add a little black magic marker addendum:

"Tell that to George Washington."

War is only a tool.

You use it when you are about to lose your ability to ever use it again.

I'm pro-peace, until they start trying to kill me.

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 2:03 PM

Congratulations lefties, socialists, moral absolutists, kickers of Christianity and believers that all truth is equal what did you expect? Isn’t tolerance wonderful, you are so nice not to offend the Islamic sensitivities, I’m so proud of your PC’ness, good show let’s duplicate Europes success here at home, what a wonderful example for us follow. If America goes the way of EU and Canadastan we can all sit by and roll out the red carpet for that one world government you are so eager for.

Friedrich Nietzsche said, The state is the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies, too; and this lie creeps from its mouth; 'I, the state, am the people.'

Posted by: Cross [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 2:22 PM

I still think it wouldn't be such a bad idea for all these academics who have been fired for telling the truth to band together to form a small private college of their own to teach courses in "Islamic Studies," possibly expanding to the point where a bachelor's degree could be offered.

"Accreditation" is irrelevant. It isn't legally required in the private system.

It's gotta start somewhere. It should start in kindergarten, but that will never happen in the government-run system, any more than the truth about Islam will happen in any government agency.

The truth will be up to the private sector, folks. Our Protectors are too busy doing God knows what to do their jobs.

Posted by: cubed [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 2:28 PM

cubed-

A drop of water, constantly, wears a hole even in stone.

We all need to be the local examples of this persistent erosion of the stone of mythic Islam and wearing a hole through it -so people around us can see its harsh truth.

Drop...

Islam- where women are only worth half a man.

Drop...

Islam- where lies are permitted by Allah toward infidels.

Drop...

Islam- where the ideal is a global tyrannical theocracy.

Drop...

Islam- where their 'prophet' took a 9 year old girl to bed. As his 'wife'.

Drop...

Drop...

Drop...

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 2:48 PM

We've got our drops, BigSleep, they have theirs:

drip...

Ward Churchill

drip...

Esposito

drip...

Juan Cole

drip...

Which is why I mourn for the guy who got sacked, above.

While others defend those I just mentioned. Something about 'freedom of expression' or somesuch, while claimed we obfuscate in the name of Bush.

Eh, kj?

drip...

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 3:23 PM

Still being the infant I see, Gary.

Pobrecito chica, Garycita.

Que triste.

I've never seen kj defend Ward, or Esposito.

As regards Juan Cole, well there are times I disagree with him, but I read his Blog frequently

And believe it or not he is not an outright Islamophile, in fact he can be downright critical, which makes his criticism of Islam more potent, because he is not perceive as an irrational "racist" or "Islamophobe".

He is anti Bush, but so would anyone with an IQ over 90 and who was not a hidebound ideoloque with their own Jihad and agenda.

George W.Bush is a liar and a traitor, ever bit as bad for this country and the west as Ward Churchill, but morons will fellate Bush and forgive him of his sins, because he is on their team (so they think).

Truth is that kj and I are more anti Jihadi and more consistently anti Jihadi than you or Big Sleep or the other right wing idiots who post here.

I will call a pig a pig, you and Big sleep and others will kiss the pig so long as it is wearing an RNC dress.

Here's a couple of items from Juan Coles page today

Iraqi troops assembled at Mada'in in preparation for an attempt to rescue some 100 Shiite hostages held by Sunni Arab militants.

Patrick Cockburn dismantles claims by the Pentagon brass that Iraq's guerrilla insurgencey is on the decline.

The Los Angeles Times points out that the new Iraqi government is likely to show greater independence from Washington.

I'd say that the chances the US will get a green light to do another Fallujah-type operations are slim to none. PM Ibrahim Jaafari opposed the spring, 2004, Fallujah campaign.

Iraqi female politicians are pressing Jaafari to appoint more women to head ministries.

posted by Juan @ 4/17/2005 06:30:00 AM

News Roundup

Bush and his agendas (social security privatization, the Iraq War) continue to slide in the polls. Americans turn out to want a timetable for withdrawal of US troops just as much as Iraq's Sunni Arabs do! (69 percent want a clear goal and don't think Bush has articulated one.)

posted by Juan @ 4/17/2005 06:14:00 AM
Saturday, April 16, 2005

7 Iraqis Killed, 16 Wounded Friday in String of Bombings
Two Marines Killed

Guerrillas in a town near Baghdad took 60 local Shiites hostage and are threatening to kill them, unless Shiite inhabitants leave the area.

This incident is the most worrying explicit Sunni-Shiite conflict I can remember, and I find it alarming. Shiites could lash out at Sunni Arabs over it.

Robert Worth of the NYT reports that on Friday, a suicide bomber targetted Iraqi police in the city of Mahawil near al-Hillah south of Baghdad, killing 4 of them. [Al-Zaman reports 7 dead, 9 wounded, in this incident.] In Baghdad itself, guerrillas set off three bombs, wounding 9 persons. In the upscale neighborhood of al-Mansur, one of the bombs had targeted a passing US military convoy, but wounded Iraqis instead. The US military announced the killing of two Marines earlier this week, one near Hit and the other in Ramadi.

Posted by: Giaour [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 6:38 PM

Giaour~ you have some catching up to do Here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005768.php

Regards.

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 6:58 PM

The real anti-Semites of the 21st Century are the so called intellectuals and the cultural establishment who in their hatred of anything Christian prove themselves to be intolerant prejudicial bigots who are in effect the useful idiots of Islam.

Posted by: Cross [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 7:35 PM

He should have had that Egyptian academic fraud whore tossed out of the class. Look what Massad got away with, where are all the concerned liberals to fret about his academic freedom.

Posted by: Jakester [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 17, 2005 11:25 PM

These pathetic pagans do not like hearing the truth about their miserable, blood soaked religion eh? Hope fatima & dianna are forced by their religious leaders to wear those hideous black robes with a bird cage or mesh in front of their eyes. numbat

Posted by: numbat [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 18, 2005 12:02 AM

To: ABonney@mcc.commnet.edu Ann Bonney, Director of Non-Credit Programs, Continuing Education Department, Manchester Community College, PO BOX 1046, Manchester Connecticut USA 06045-1046 (860)-512-2822
cc. To: Ann Bonney, Director of Non-Credit Programs, Continuing Education Department, Manchester Community College, PO BOX 1046, Manchester Connecticut USA 06045-1046 (860)-512-2822

cc: MHaber@mcc.commnet.edu

Director Bonney,

Life is about choices. In life, we encounter situations that require carefully considered decisions. In your position, such decisions involve weighing important concepts such as protection of academic freedom, freedom of speech, and freedom of conscience. In America, these and other freedoms are protected by our Constitution, our laws, and our country's Judeo-Christian moral beliefs. When you denied Michael Abdelmessih the right to teach the course "Understanding Militant Islamic Fundamentalism", you violated his academic freedom, and more importantly, the academic freedom of Manchester Community College (MCC) students.

America and the free world are under attack by the very same militant Islamic fundamentalism Michael Abdelmessih sought to expose in his proposed class. We see both violent and non-violent examples of these 'Jihad' attacks daily. Had you allowed Michael to teach this course, he could have shone the bright light of academic inquiry on the true nature of Islamic teachings. His students would have learned the truth about this utopian totalitarian ideology and its unending quest for world domination. They could have learned the truth about Jihad, whether practiced by Osama Bin Laden or Fatma Antar. They could have learned about the concepts of al taqiyya, kitman, and tu quoque, the three forms of Islamic deception, mental reservation, and dissimilitude. They could have learned about the dangerous Islamic tactics of moral relativism and equivocation. THEY COULD HAVE LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT MILITANT ISLAM. But instead, all they got was a slick snow job from the enemy's local mouthpiece.

What I find really repugnant about this situation is the intimidation factor. I am very familiar with this and other militant Islamic tactics. When confronted with the potential exposure of the documented truth about Islamic fundamentalism, Muslim apologists whine pitifully about persecution and seek any means to silence critical examination of their seventh-century ideology. When they are unsuccessful, they often resort to threats of violence... threats that are sometimes not empty rhetoric. But when they think they are successful, their triumphal shouts of 'allahu akhbar' fill the air.

In this situation at MCC, like many others, Fatma Antar and her ilk have not truly succeded. Once again their tactics have backfired, proving the true nature of Militant Islam to the world. The exposure of the facts concerning this MCC course and your cowardly decisions, to a worldwide audience, is now fully under way. I assure you, I will do everything in my power to spread this story far and wide. I hope you and the MCC administration enjoy the widespread scorn and derision you so richly deserve.

Sincerely,

DonChicago48

Posted by: donchicago48 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 18, 2005 2:17 AM

That is absolutely ridiculous. We give power to Muslims in the West to do whatever they want to do and afterwards we complain cry!!!
If the Western countries do not firmly stand up on the face of Muslims and Islam, Australia, America and Europe will badly and regrettingly suffer from Muslims when it will be too late to salve the bad problems created by Muslims.

Abbas

Posted by: Abbas [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 18, 2005 6:12 AM

NEWER INDEPTH ARTICLE ON THIS ISSUE IS ON THIS MORNINGS FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE. ---BY LEE KAPLAN----- It now has legs.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 18, 2005 10:31 AM

What can I say here, but what a couple of selfrighteous, egotistical, uptight bitches! Don't take the f'n class if your a stupid whore and can't handle the truth and being in a Western society. This Coptic man though from a foul worthless islamic society is the closest ally that the west has in the armpit and ass hole of the world. We forget that North Africa was actually part of the west long before it became inslaved to the east. But the Copts are the retainers of civilization in that region, we would not even have half of the history of prior cultures and languages in Egypt if it were not for the Copts dilegence in preserving these treasures, while those wothless pig fuckers destroyed everything that did not fit their narrow mindedness. And we in the west have the audacity to treat the victims of this mad cult with contempt when they help to inform us of its evils! Piss on these skanks, kick the bitches out of the class and allow a real intellectual the opportunity to educate someone with out this worthless shithole fuckface religion stepping in and telling us otherwise, forgive me my Holy Father for my foul language and anger it is unbefiting of one of your servants. I should be more reserved but our slave mentality drives me to utter madness.

Posted by: KentuckyGentry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 18, 2005 11:30 AM

Giaour-

I'm about a "right wing" as Tom Paine. And as much an "idiot" as Dostoevsky.

As for "anti-jihadi" measurements, I gave up pissing contests about the time my first teeth came in. You do what you can, I'll do what I can.

Spare me the crowing. The dunghill is too crowded.

Oppose tyranny, don't kick the members of your own foxhole for not having their boots polished to your liking.

Whatever your private agenda is for standing against the theocratic totalitarianism of Islam, remember the old saying:

"Don't crap in your own nest."

(At least not until the vultures trying to eat your fledgings have been overcome.)

People too enamored with political positioning aren't paying enough attention to the enemy. THEY will use right, left, middle, liberal, conservative or libertarian disguises to get through your defenses to destroy you.

Read the link to the captured Al-Qaeda manual that Mr. Spencer has provided.

They can play this type of internecine quibbling like a stradivarius of sedition.

Bark at me if you like, but be sure to bite the one's attacking us.

Right?

(Or they'll be no one left.)

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2005 12:42 AM

P.S.

Giaour-

In case you didn't already find the Al-Qaeda training manual link mentioned above, here it is:

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm

Thanks again, Mr. S.

Posted by: BigSleep [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 21, 2005 12:52 AM

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