It is not just women that get killed for honorary reasons. A 47 year old man is prosecuted now in the Netherlands for strangeling his 40 year old brother. The supposed reason for this act is that he did not aprove of the fact that his brother had a relation with a christian, or at least a non-muslim woman. The alleged killer even took his two sons (minors) to witness the killing of their uncle.

Posted by: Ernst at April 17, 2005 9:35 AM

In Canada we had a horrific murder of a Muslim child by the Muslim parents that got caught
and reverted to the "Sharia" defense that it was a honour-killing.

They knived the girl to death and then hacked her up into pieces and buried body parts along the Lake Ontario shoreline,the case was very complex because it appeared as a immigration scam
based on a "Marriage of convienence" to get her husband in the Country.
The daughter was from a past marriage and under Sharia the husband gets the kids,sadly it was a step daughter from his last wife and the slimeballs claimed the girl comitted suicide,this
while the body parts were buried in different areas.

When you're up against the wall on murder charges,resort to the "Sharia" defense,the Judge
fell for it and gave a light sentence as first-offenders.

Posted by: ala-sux at April 17, 2005 2:14 PM

ala-sux-

You're being very judgmental! From what I've heard, most Muslim women who commit suicide DO manage to chop themselves up and bury the pieces all over ther place on the way to their death.

It's kind of a piecemeal hadj.

Mike-

If only it were so!

Keep them at their own throats, and maybe enough of their lovely ladies will leave them, tipping the demographic balance toward the freedom- and women-loving West.

Posted by: BigSleep at April 17, 2005 2:36 PM

P.S.

The most chilling thing I found in this entire report was the phrase:

"an expert in honor killings".

Imagine a world in which there is the need for such a thing.

"an expert in honor killings"!

And now it is coming our way.

Faster and harder and crazier.

And one question: if the psychiatrist finds that the murderer's "cultural backround played a role in the killing" what then? Does that change his sentence for some reason? We know there is no death penalty, so, other than feeding more and more murderers for 50 or 60 years, while providing free medical care, free housing and free libraries, what exactly is the punishment for these monstrous acts?

An accidental overdose of pampering?

Posted by: BigSleep at April 17, 2005 10:58 PM

Murder is murder. They shouldn't consider any Sharia bullsh-t extenuating circumstances in court. Unfortunately for the European dhimmi sissies, they outlawed the death penalty, so they're going to suffer from their Muslims for a long time. Let's hope Howard gets elected in the UK, Chirac gets the boot in France, and the rest of Europe follows their example.

Posted by: angry_kafir at April 17, 2005 11:37 PM

Dear all,

not so fast, we might be naive here in the Netherlands but we are not completly stupid, at least, not all the time.

Sharia and honourkilling are not mitigating circumstances, quite the contrary. It is seen as conspiracy, and thus also the others that did not do the actual killing but "ordered" it, are punished for it. The eyes here were opened when families send out minors to do the dirty work, expecting them to get lower sentences in juvinale courts. Now fathers and so on are also thrown in jail.

Posted by: Ernst at April 17, 2005 11:51 PM

Every day these bloody handed, dribbling pagans are showing the decent civilized world the real islam and what this stinking, barbaric, unwholesome,savage pagan religion is and what it stands for. One day, unfortunately, these miserable, sick, deformed pagans will go too far and there will be bloodshed - pagan blood at that on an enormous scale. These pagans have no place in a decent society at all. They just can't be trusted or believed. They are an evil stain on society. numbat

Posted by: numbat at April 18, 2005 12:16 AM

Ernst,

I'm glad to hear that. Now if only we could get the legal community to open its eyes to the greater problem. Islam itself is a large criminal conspiracy. Murder, rape, kidnapping, beheading, disfigurement, polygamy, pedophilia, perjury, terrorism, robbery... Egads, I lose track.

Posted by: Beagle at April 18, 2005 3:19 AM

Yes, numbat, every day these backward savages display their barbarity, but few in the media make too much of a fuss over it. In fact, they seem to look the other way and maintain a determined, awkward silence, as if to hope we don't notice. And most of the world never hears of these horrid acts of Islam. Which is the way the media prefers it. I don't understand this conspiracy to keep the filthy truth of Islam from public knowledge.

Here in Oz, there was some Islamic grub, the name of Feiz Muhammad, caught saying that women who were raped basically asked for it because of the way they dressed. Of course the guy is a total idiot for saying that since women are raped even when draped head to toe in his much vaunted perfect Islamic paradise societies of imagined wonderment and bliss. And his reasoning doesn't hold water given that even babies are raped, and 80 year old housebound grandmas. If some bishop or minister was caught saying this, the media would be tripping all over each other making it into the world's greatest atrocity since the Holocaust. But Islam gets a free pass.

This Feiz creature teaches at the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool, NSW. Yes, the Youth of Islam get this abhorrent rubbish crammed into their already messed up heads. No surprise that women are stalked and gang-raped by these troglodytes. Personally I think this vermin Feiz should be charged with something, or even better tossed out of the country. But unfortunately, he'll likely continue to remain here, and continue to defecate on our society because it's always okay to hate your own Western-based society. It's very trendy to do that. So far we haven't had any "honor" killings reported here. But maybe that's only because the media chooses to keep that ugly, filthy truth of Islam hidden from us.

Posted by: feralee at April 18, 2005 5:46 AM

Mike, this was the killing of an Apostle, this is not a Muslim killing another Muslim. This is a person who left that evil cult being killed by followers of that evil cult. This is part of their war against the West and its so called corrupting influence.

Posted by: Daffersd at April 18, 2005 6:41 AM