A reduction in support for Labour is not bad thing, even if it's for the wrong reasons. They waste too much of my hard earned money.

What worries me is the widespread fraud that will happen as a result of the postal vote. Labour has encouraged postal voting and relaxed the rules, despite widespread fraud and intimidation in the recent Birmingham council elections. Guess the religion of those carrying out this fraud. (Clue: not Buddhist.)

A postal vote is witnessable and therefore open to bribery and intimidation. Muslims, with no history or love of democracy, are the most suceptible to this. Imams will tell the men how to vote and they, in turn, will tell their wives. Without the compulsory secret balot, corruption will be rife. Thousands of women will be disenfranchised. For the first time in over 100 years, a British election is seriously compromised.

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 7:47 AM

And on that same point of postal vote fraud and the "background" of the perpertrators (as surmised from their names, Mohammed being a bit of a giveaway), I also sent Mr Spencer this story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/england/4512013.stm If he does use it as a main thread I apologise for the repetition.

This time the investigation concerns candidates in Bradford, formerly known for it's excellent Yorkshire woollen cloth, now better known as Bradistan. The local paper carries the story in more detail. http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1015296

I witnessed a housebound neighbour's postal vote last week. I was terrified I would lose it on the way to the post box, or drop it in a puddle, pondering whether I should hand it in at my own polling station instead. Such a profound responsibility, yet these men are abusing a system that women died for.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 4, 2005 8:27 AM

An early snapshot of how Muslims believe they will bring Islam and Sharia to the West...

Moose

Posted by: Moose at May 4, 2005 8:32 AM

Reminds me of a group of people that could never design, build or buy a castle but they just move in and claim they own, and run it.

Moose

Posted by: Moose at May 4, 2005 8:38 AM

An interesting nickname, previous poster!

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 9:37 AM

Do you remember that bit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Perhaps "i_waggle_my_private_parts_at_you_you_nasty_islamic_person" would be a bit too long.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 4, 2005 10:11 AM

Nuts and bolts...nuts!!! The pattern is clear, the goal is known...move in, grow, get political power, take over...very similar to a parasitic or viral infection, minus the political power. If you pour enough water into a container of oil, the oil will rise to the top and escape, replaced by the water. The non-muslim populations are doing the same thing, as muslims move in, the existant population moves over and eventually out, or stay under dhimmitude...This is the long , slower , less violent way of taking over...jihad is faster. Islam is doing both in unison...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 4, 2005 10:11 AM

Granny W:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a fantastic film. I've been corrupting my 6 year old nephew by teaching him to sing songs about Brave Sir Robin getting his eyes gouged out.

The Life of Brian is even better, in my view. Can you imagine a film like that being made about Mo?

Perhaps that poster's name was just too colourful for this website as his post has been deleted. Now it looks as if my comment refers to Moose. No, Moose, your name's fine!!

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 11:05 AM

Please post again Mr I live in Surrey, but pick a different nickname this time. Your comments were valid.

Always look on the bright side of life.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 4, 2005 11:11 AM

The name was funny, though. It's a challenge, to which the only answer is - no thanks, it's more trouble than it's worth!

There are probably a lot of names that have a verb and a noun joined together, eg Drinkwater, Makepeace, so you never know, it may have been his real name.

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 11:28 AM

What ever happened to Enoh???
Hate to admit it now-- but he was not so far from the truth

Posted by: shiva at May 4, 2005 11:33 AM

Shiva, are you 'You know who?', formerly of the really colourful nickname?

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 11:59 AM

As most British Muslims, and nearly all of those in the marginal constituencies listed, originate from remote districts of Pakistan and Bangladesh you have to wonder why they are so bothered about the war in Iraq.

Even more so when you consider more pressing issues that should be of more immediate concern to them such as that fact that they are bottom in the academic achievement league tables and top in the unemployment, low earnings, dependency on welfare benefits, dependency on public sector housing, poor health and heroin addiction tables. Add in the fact that around 40% are under the age of 16 and that many of the adults are illiterate even in their own languages. So why is it the Iraq war that’s keeping them awake at night?

Maybe they have developed an overwhelming aversion to warfare because of the Bangladesh war of independence when the Pakistani army slaughtered between 1-3 million Bangladeshi’s, nearly all civilians, in a nine month period in 1971. Maybe, except that this particular table topping genocide has been virtually written out of the shared history of these two communities.

And perhaps its not the thought of warfare that bothers them anyhow. In May 1999 when news coverage was dominated by mounting civilian casualties in the Kosovo bombing campaign the ‘moderate’ Muslim Council of Britain met Tony Blair and thanked him for the ‘bold initiative’ he had taken in bombing the Serbs, urged Blair to continue the bombing until Milosevic was defeated but also expressed a ‘terrible fear’ that Nato might discontinue the bombing and opt for a negotiated settlement with the Serbs. Who needs negotiations when you can use military force? This was the direct opposite of the MCB argument for opposing the Iraq war.

As usual, it’s the Muslim community leaders who set the agenda for this unfortunate collection of uprooted peasants. Keep their minds on Islam. Keep them locked in a world where they feel permanent anguish and frustration by the actions of non-Muslims; the Iraq war, the war on terror, the Palestinian conflict, Kashmir, Chechnya, places that no-one has ever heard of, anything to make them feel bitter towards non-Muslims and therefore all the better when they have the company of their Muslim brothers at home and in the mosque and wherever they can have their brains twisted by 7th century Arab tribal supersitions.

Posted by: Harold Hat at May 4, 2005 1:25 PM

Harold Hat

Your post is a masterpiece!

I wish there was an editor brave enough to put a truth telling comment piece like that in their paper. But you have to tip-toe around the issues in Britain today.

Once again, thanks for such an excellent post. One statistic you also left out of the equation is the rapidly rising Pakistani Muslim prison population.

Posted by: Zico at May 4, 2005 2:28 PM

Harold Hat

Your post is a masterpiece!

I wish there was an editor brave enough to put a truth telling comment piece like that in their paper. But you have to tip-toe around the issues in Britain today.

Once again, thanks for such an excellent post. One statistic you also left out of the equation is the rapidly rising Pakistani Muslim prison population.

Posted by: Zico at May 4, 2005 2:28 PM

Laugh if wanna on my JW nick. But have u guys ever really suffered (personally) at hands of momeds? Have u been ever driven out of your own lands by jehadis? Has any body here ever lost a relative to their clutches? Well my family has gone through all that, hence that xplains my nick

Posted by: FuckMuslims at May 4, 2005 2:39 PM

Seriously, FM - just being practical - with that Nick you're just going to get deleted. Not in my hands, but it will happen.

I don't want you to get deleted. It would be great if you could stick around to make some really good points. So maybe change it to 'Islam delenda est' - means exactly the same but sounds more refined.

I'm on your side, mate.

Posted by: Interested at May 4, 2005 6:01 PM

I'm glad you came back FM and we want to hear what you have to say. You sound passionate and informed and your voice should be heard. But you run the risk of deletion everytime because of that nickname. I'm sure you can find something that expresses your depth of feeling. The word you use does lose it's effect if used too often, which is a shame as in private it's effectivness is indeed useful.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 4, 2005 6:22 PM

Just for you, Granny Weatherwax:

http://www.thesoundarchive.com/montypython/privparts.wav

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 4, 2005 7:15 PM

FM-

Try "FogMuslims".

It would say the same, in effect, and express more.

Like "SandFleas".
It would create a mythic but recognizable new genus, and expose something that we are all all-too-familiar with
when The Great Islamic Disinformationa & Misnderstanding Machine
really gets huffing and puffing.

In a fog of sanctimonious suras, they lose sight of the starry Universe.

We know the feeling you want to express, but subtlety is one of our strengths against jihad.

Something that the rude, crude, cruel, implacable and eternally-irritated Koran knows nothing of.

Posted by: BigSleep at May 4, 2005 8:47 PM

FM, could you tell your story, perhaps? I'm sorry if it's a painful request; but I imagine it would be helpful for everyone reading this site besides being an object lesson in religious plurality.

Cheers to you and best wishes,

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at May 4, 2005 10:46 PM

Carolyn2
Thanks ;)

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 5, 2005 5:13 AM

Got ur point Granny err.. Nanny. I'm a Kashmiri Pundit (i.e Kashmiri Hindu). We've lived in Kashmir sinc past 3000 years. Kashmir is an ancient seat of learning in Hinduism which houses one of the four monastaries of Shankaracharya and Vaishnodevi the holiest shrine in Hindu civilization. J&K u see 2day is not entirely Muslim. Jammu has (probably had) a Hindu majority, Ladakh has a Buddhist majority.
Check this BBC link. Just 400 years before almost all Kashmiris were Hindus, until Islam came. We share a common culture,common ethnicity, common language ( albiet Muslim Kashmiri is written in Arabic script & has a lot of Arabic words in it). My family lived in Kashmir until 1988. Thats when, Pakistani military made Afghan mujahedeen war spill over into Kasmir. Afghan & Pakistani jihadis infiltrated in droves from Pakistani side, their calls for Jehad found a support amongst Kashmirir Muslims. A Psychosis of fear was craeted amongst Pandits. Muslims stopped visiting them, Jehadis ransacked our homes asking us to get out, our neighbours turned against us, they stopped buying from our family shop, many of us were killed in cold blood while the illprepared Indian army gung ho from recent success at uprooting Sikh terrorism just stood by as a mere bystander. Thousands of Kashmiri Pandits fled to Jammu and other parts of India. They were forced to live in the squalid conditions of the refugee camps in Delhi, which even Palestinian standards were dirty. My uncle ( my dad had immigrated to U.K in 1982) was determined to live thru it, but in Feb of 1989 he was kidnapped and beheaded sometime in March of '89. We could only get his head. Well i donot ask for sympathy but world( including Indian Union) has forgotten us. Amnesty may bray about the torture of Kashmiris and alleged "human rights abuses" by Indian army. A soldier enters a terrorists home, he is accused of rape, they arrest a guy they make it out as if Indian Army has arrested a saint. When a Kashmiri Pandit no one knows about it. Sadly we are the Historys forgotten people on the verge of cultural extinction ( i cant speak Kashmiri)...

Posted by: FuckMuslims at May 5, 2005 6:16 AM

For Demographics of Kashmir check this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/south_asia/03/kashmir_future/html/default.stm

Posted by: FuckMuslims at May 5, 2005 6:18 AM

well sorry for this but there are many errors int my comments, here r the corrections:

"When a Kashmiri Pandit is killed no one knows about it"

Check this BBC link (ie the link above)

Cheers

Posted by: FuckMuslims at May 5, 2005 6:26 AM

Glad you came back FM. I have copied your posts so if you do get deleted I can repost your very moving family history so that it remains in the archive.

Your family have suffered greatly, thank you for letting us know your history.
I will follow the link you recommend shortly.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 5, 2005 7:38 AM

FM,
welcome to JW.

please visit this link,

http://www.themuslimweekly.com/newspaper/viewfullstory.aspx?NewsID=NW00002041

print it out and put it on the notice board at the Mandir, forward it to everyone you know.

Regards

AI

Posted by: apostate_islam at May 5, 2005 7:59 AM

Thats a funny thing, I was thinking of AI as I copied the post.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at May 5, 2005 8:10 AM