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AAH Points to Anti-Jewish Passages from Americans Against Hate, with thanks to Joe Kaufman.
Coral Springs, FL - In response to the Newsweek article alleging an incident where a Quran was flushed down a toilet by U.S. interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) has announced that it will be giving away "free" Qurans. The name of the project is 'EXPLORE THE QURAN.'According to the national headquarters of CAIR, the version of the book they are giving away is 'The Meaning of THE HOLY QURAN,' translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. This is the same version that had been permanently removed by the Los Angeles public school system for having anti-Jewish statements within its commentaries. The banned books had been donated to the schools by the Omar Ibn Khattab Foundation.
One of the cited offending passages reads, "The Jews in their arrogance claimed that all wisdom and all knowledge of Allah was enclosed in their hearts… Their claim was not only arrogance but blasphemy." Looking under "Jews" in the index of the book, one finds: "became apes and swine," "cursed," "enmity of," "greedy of life," "slew prophets," "took usury," "unbelief and blasphemy of," "work iniquity," and "write the Book with their own hands."...
CAIR calls this particular Quran the "most respected English translation of the Quran" and has been giving it away since September of 2002, in its own library project called 'Explore Islamic Culture & Civilization.' This initiative was funded in part by a donation of $500,000 from Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. This is the same individual that ex-New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani rejected a $10 million donation for disaster relief from, after bin Talal suggested U.S. policies in the Middle East contributed to the September 11th attacks.
At a local press conference, CAIR-Florida Executive Director Altaf Ali said of the Quran giveaway and the circumstance that led to it, "We want to turn a negative image [of America] into a positive one." Joe Kaufman, the Chairman of Americans Against Hate (AAH), reacted to this by stating, "Mr. Ali should worry less about America's image and worry more about his group's image, a group that has been cited for its connections to a terrorist organization and that gives out materials that preach hatred against others."
Humm, I wonder where they're going to find a non-anti-Jewish Qur'an?
Posted by Rebecca at May 27, 2005 7:42 AM
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Typical isn't it of them? And John Conyers wants to protect these people with his "resolution"....What a joke.
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at May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
"Humm, I wonder where they're going to find a non-anti-Jewish Qur'an?" BINGO!!!
Posted by: epg at May 27, 2005 8:31 AM
Imagine that when religious conflicts arise, men fight.
Imagine further that the winner kills all the males of the losing religion.
In one generation what will have happened?
Imagine that when political conflicts arise, men fight.
Imagine further that the winning political group silences all opposition.
In one generation what will have happened?
Imagine a government that recognizes only one religion.
Imagine further that this religion silences all dissent.
In one generation what will have happened?
Imagine Islam
at May 27, 2005 8:34 AM
A "non-Anti-Jewish Quran"?
If not an oxymoron altogether, it would have to be an extremely thin volume, wouldn't it?
Posted by: waterdragon52 at May 27, 2005 8:39 AM
It is astonishing, it really is, how Muslims are so oblivious to the hatred that is hard-wired into their religion and texts, and try to propagandise on the basis of the htred of these texts, and are so clueless about the objections, and they dont realise that by blindly and wilfully prosletysing this hatred they put themselves deeper and deeper into the mud. I have seen this dynamic played out again and again in the UK, it happens in America too, everywhere you go, things are the same.
Posted by: Zico at May 27, 2005 8:40 AM
Psst-pssst The New Testament says that anyone who does not accept Jesus as their personal lord and savior will be damned.
Isn't this a bit "anti-Jewish", too? Isn't this pretty much judgemental of anyone who does not believe in the NT of the Bible? Isn't this something that you all fail to acknowledge?
I'll await your various contortions to explain this away....
Posted by: KingTolerance at May 27, 2005 8:53 AM
Do you believe that Jews are descended from apes and pigs, King Tolerance?
at May 27, 2005 9:04 AM
Where can I get a copy of this "most respected English translation of the Quran"
It would be perfect to quote from.
btw king tolerance, can you point to passages in the Bible calling Jews 'apes and pigs'? Can you show us passages saying 'slay them wherever you find them'?
Posted by: Gary at May 27, 2005 9:04 AM
Zico - I do not believe that any more than I believe that those who do not accept Christ are going to hell. Do you believe that Hindus, Buhhists, Sikhs, Muslims etc. are going to hell sicne they do not accpet Christ as their savior? Yes or no.
Gary - once again, the NT says anyone who does not accept Christ as their savior will be sent to hell to suffer for all eternity. That sounds pretty finite and judgemental to me! Jews do not accept Christ as their savior so they are damned, according to Christians. Christian fundamentalism operates quite intensively on this premise. Right?
Posted by: KingTolerance at May 27, 2005 9:22 AM
Contortions? What, are you serious?
Well, first off, Jesus himself is Jewish. Secondly while he threatens people with hellfire and all (which everyone does, of course), he doesn't command their deaths. If you want to threaten me with eternal damnation, off you go. Just don't kill me please. Thanks.
Lastly, he doesn't refer to Jews as the progeny of "apes and swine", nor are Jews anywhere turned into lizards or whatnot (some of which are then devoured, Mohammed considering this action "halaal"!) for being Jews. (You could complain that this is in the OT, but that's a book taken from Judaism itself, and not written much, much later by people at war with Jews.)
Happy yoga,
Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at May 27, 2005 9:25 AM
"most respected English translation of the Quran"
is gooblytegoop for "most whitewashed" .
we will figure out this code
at May 27, 2005 9:31 AM
King Tut-Tut-
As a skeptic, I don't care what any Bibles or Korans say. But cull wisdom from any source.
Or as a nice Jewish boy put it:
"By their fruits you shall know them."
The Christians got over their intolerance of the Jews, finally (after 1000 plus years), and secular law replaced the theocratic urge to despotic religious rule in the West. (Thanks the the blueprint of the U.S. Constitition.) No one in current Christianity rants against Jews (except for KKK-oid nutjobs on the extreme fringes who are looked upon by the majority as looney-tunes).
The followers of Islam, however, have not gotten over their active hatred and calumny of Jews (and everyone else in every other faith- SEE; Saudi Arabia, home of Mecca)
so your 'comparison of texts' is tedious and fallacious.
No one but crazies in 'Christian' oddball offshoots ("Identity", ad absurdum) take the most vile sayings of the Bible literally any more.
Almost everyone (at least so's you hear, see, and experience in demonstration) in Islam takes every vile and hateful saying in the Koran literally.
Until the Muslims worldwide experience some secular restraint (which is forbidden by their rule book) on the Koran, Sharia, etc., they are trapped in eternal intolerance. Literalists to doomsday.
And everyone else will have to suffer their violent bigotry, and will be forced to restrain and contain them until some sanity ekes into their raging despotic theocratic craniums. (See: Sura 9:5, etc.)
It took a while in the West. (SEE: Jan Huss, Cathars, Giordano Bruno, etc.)
I give Islam about 1350 years to get it done.
(But the problem is: the weaponry now is so apocalyptic that I don't think they'll be tolerated for that long if they strike the West with a WMD in the meantime.)
Posted by: BigSleep at May 27, 2005 9:31 AM
King Tolerance
If you cannot tell the difference between the enlightenment-mediated approach to the New Testament and its status within western liberal democractic society and the literalism of Islamic belief in the Koran you are a purblind fool.
at May 27, 2005 9:48 AM
'Christian fundamentalism operates quite intensively on this premise. Right?'~ KT
I would guess they do.
It is called Preaching the Word of God. Example: Mother Teresa.
Conversion by debate and example, not beheading and slavery.
btw- There will Never be a fundamentalist theocracy in the US. Not the Least of the reasons being, people like yourself- And myself (giaour take note!)- keeping an eye out for those type. Before 9/11 I was a member of the Southern Poverty Law Center for 6 years, I've been watching!
However- there Are theocratic governments in a host of nations, mostly muslim... and the things we are concerned about are happening there... and there are people working to bring such government to the US (CAIR being a prime example).
So why does the one that will never happen bother you, while the one working to happen doesn't even show on your radar?
Posted by: Gary at May 27, 2005 10:37 AM
Since no one has come back from the afterlife to tell us if the 72 virgins are for real or if Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father, what anyone shouts at me in my face is moot. Faith is faith.
What we all object to is having out lives ended or limited by muslim fanaticism.
I think CAIR is doing the country a big favor by passing out FREE copies of the quran. Even the $5 I paid for my cheap copy was too much to spend on this arab imperialist manifesto.
And people should read the Jew-hating, slaughter-the-infidel passages. Of course, when these passages are cited, no doubt allah's servants will say we misinterpreted them, took them out of contexts, didn't read them in arabic, blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: 3812Michelle at May 27, 2005 10:41 AM
Geoff wrote: "Well, first off, Jesus himself is Jewish. Secondly while he threatens people with hellfire and all (which everyone does, of course), Why you insist on ignoring this and picking aprat thhe doesn't command their deaths."
King responds - Jesus was a Jew and was supposed to be the messiah, something the Jews denounced, thus, making them damned.
Glad you acknowledged that Jesus threatened with hellfire which has been human kind's "ultimate ultimatum." What a better way to whip someone into submission than to threaten them with eternal damnation and torture. Indeed, ignoring the Bible's threats of hell and eternal damnation for "non-beleivers", aka infidels is intellectual dishonesty on your part.
at May 27, 2005 10:44 AM
Conversion by debate and example, not beheading and slavery.
i beg to differ. I've seen fundamentalists like Pat Robertson,Benny Hinn & Co. and their vicious rants against the "false religions" (read Dharmic faiths i.e Hinduism,Buddhism,Sikhism etc) on 700 Club and GOD TV. You can hardly call Hinn's methods as "conversion by debate and example".Mother Teresa was sure a good lady who did service to India. But many other unsung Indians are also in the same line of work, people like Baba Amte have done the same things as Mother Teresa albiet without enormous financial resources of Vatican. I've read "New World Order" by Pat, that book exemplifies the bigotry of Chritian fundamentalists. I'm not accusing all Christians of bigotry may be 99.99% of u guys are good but u sure have bad apples on par with Muslims.
at May 27, 2005 10:48 AM
Big Sleep offers: "No one but crazies in 'Christian' oddball offshoots ("Identity", ad absurdum) take the most vile sayings of the Bible literally any more."
King responds: This is where on of the key facets to the bigger picture surfaces but you are refusing to weave this into something useful. You'd rather hover around a website based on hatred and intolerance to "solve" your troubles.
There are a lot more of those "oddball offshoots" out there and they are trying quite hard to gain more and more political strength. In my opinion, they are succeeding in some aspects. In some of the Arab world, "oddball offshoots" have achieved political clout and can operate freely. Your denouncement of an entire religion based on this is apples and oranges.
at May 27, 2005 10:48 AM
In Italy at the moment, one Hamza Piccardo has been forced to re-issue his Coran (italian spelling) full of the usual anti-Jewish sentiments with which we are all familiar, after having been severely and accurately criticized for his "notes" which simply double the dose of what is already evident in the text. Nor have the critics spared the scholar of medieval Islam Franco Cardini, who wrote the introduction for the first, and more truthful, less taqiyya-prompted, version of the Coran that Piccardo put out.
Cardini deserves as much criticism as Piccardo, for he knows perfectly well what is in the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sira.
Meanwhile, Adel Smith, one of the self-appointed leaders of Italian Muslims, has seen his lawsuit against Oriana Fallaci reinstated by a magistrate in Bergamo. But that decision, in turn, has been warmly criticised by left and right.
On Sunday the French will vote against the EU Constitution. The situation is confused, but the underlying theme of the most important of those urging No, such as Philippe de Villiers, is the worry over Islamic immigrants. That French No will also weaken Chirac and D. de Villepin, always a good thing, and such chiraquistes as Marie-Alliot.
Then in July the Dutch will also vote against the Constitution. The reasons there will more clearly be to reject a political class that has done little or nothing to protect the Dutch from islamization.
Meanwhile, the American government, instead of handing over more jizyah to Abu Mazen, might do well to turn its attention to Europe, to forget about bribing the Muslim Arabs, and leave Iraq to its own devices.
Posted by: Hugh
at May 27, 2005 10:59 AM
Vikrant~ I agree, but at the same time... I don't count people like Pat Robertson and crew as Christian- especially since his type see my brand of Christian as part of the problem with the world.
Benny Hinn is an Idiot. He once spent an entire show explaining why he deserved all the gifts he was getting... once, while I was working for one of TV Guide's competitors, I had come across Hinn's name for the first time- and not knowing who he was, almost changed the entire listing to read 'Benny Hill.'
It was a better show anyway.
Posted by: Gary at May 27, 2005 11:08 AM
"King responds - Jesus was a Jew and was supposed to be the messiah, something the Jews denounced, thus, making them damned.
Glad you acknowledged that Jesus threatened with hellfire which has been human kind's "ultimate ultimatum." What a better way to whip someone into submission than to threaten them with eternal damnation and torture. Indeed, ignoring the Bible's threats of hell and eternal damnation for "non-beleivers", aka infidels is intellectual dishonesty on your part."
Oh please - the position that I should be moved by threats of eternal damnation assumes inherently THAT I BELIEVE SUCH THREATS; in short, that I am a theist of some kind. This is the only way in which they can work.
Do you believe such threats? Should I then? And can you really compare this with calls in the Quran to kill others - you know, on Earth, in this plane of existence n' all? Come on. Threaten away. It's when you try to kill me for not believing that I take offense. You ignoring that is the real dishonesty here.
And actually the Quran does both.
Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at May 27, 2005 12:09 PM
OK, going to take you down for something else here: its apples and oranges to compare a few whackjobs (and they are indeed few, and they are indeed whacked) with the complete control of entire nations by religious nuts.
Apples and oranges? No. Not even close.
Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at May 27, 2005 12:12 PM
US CITIZENS:
Contact your Senator and enlist their support of the Saudi Arabia Accountability Act:
http://www.theorator.com/bills109/hr2037.html
Posted by: Mike at May 27, 2005 12:34 PM
I see the Christian people everyday. Apparently King Tolerance sees someone else (A few television evangelists). I see farmers and lawyers and bankers, teachers and just hard-working everyday salt-of-the-earthpeople. I can guarantee you that nobody I know has some kind of evil plan to rule the earth. You anti-Christian people need to pull your heads out of your a$$es and see who is truly threating the world and it's not the folks who sing "Amazing Grace" on Sundays.
Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 27, 2005 12:38 PM
And about the Christian Church claiming everyone else is hell-bound...what belief system doesn't claim that everyone else is wrong? Why be a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu or anything? That is why we are what we are, because we all believe we have the only truth. Does it honestly hurt you for someone else to believe you might not make it to a heaven you don't even believe exists? What is your problem? If you don't believe what they believe... so what? Islam on the other hand demands that you believe their book under pain of death. Which is worse? HMMMM... hell you don't believe in or having your head sawed off?
Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 27, 2005 12:54 PM
I see CAIR is supporting a House resolution condemning religious bigotry, yet they are distributing this anti-Semitic polemic - seem a little hypocritical?
Tell them the American people does not appreciate CAIR distributing this anti-Semitic garbage:
Council on American-Islamic Relations
453 New Jersey Ave SE
Washington, DC 20003-4034
Tel. 202.488.8787
Fax. 202.488.0833
Email: cair@cair-net.org
Contact Executive Director Nihad "I am in support of the Hamas movement" Awad
Posted by: Mike at May 27, 2005 12:57 PM
Oops - I meant American people DO not appreciate...
Posted by: Mike at May 27, 2005 12:58 PM
Don't send your true email address if you are contacting care -- and especially don't send in your work email address.
They have a history of going to companies and trying to get CAIR-critical employees fired.
Posted by: Suzan at May 27, 2005 1:00 PM
Whoops I meant CAIR of course, not care.
Posted by: Suzan at May 27, 2005 1:01 PM
I can see that King Tolerance did not respond to my response to him:
If you cannot tell the difference between the enlightenment-mediated approach to the New Testament and its status within western liberal democractic society and the literalism of Islamic belief in the Koran you are a purblind fool.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt about being a genuinely tolerant and rational person has been disproved by his silence. He is not a purblind (well meaning) fool. I fully assume with reason that he is a full grade Islamist of the kind who thinks that Jews are descended from Apes and Pigs.
at May 27, 2005 1:36 PM
What'd I say:
KT, Islamist to the core, trying to pretend to be a "secularist." As transparent as glass.
Posted by: Suzan at May 27, 2005 2:56 PM
I am waiting for your response King Troll.
Posted by: Zico at May 27, 2005 3:35 PM
Guys:
King Tolerance is an intellectual lightweight, and if he's NOT an islamist here practicing jihad and da'wa, then he's an idiot who has the audacity to come to a site knowing NOTHING about islam and attacking those of us who've been studying its evil for years.
Don't waste your time. Let him read the qur'an, ahadith, sira (and some of Ibn Warraq's and Robert Spencer's books, if he dares) and visit all the thousands of islamist websites all over the world where they SPELL OUT their plans for a worldwide caliphate, and once he's has an education, he can come back and argue with those of us who've BOTHERED to learn the truth BEFORE we post, rather than just pontificate from ignorance.
Until then, DON'T FEED THE TROLL!
Posted by: CGW at May 27, 2005 4:53 PM
Hugh,
That was an excellent summary about Europe and I couldn't agree mroe with your conclusions. I am glad that Dhimmi Bush and Rice have kept a low profile on the EU constitution. Even the slightest suspicion that the US wanted it to fail... Well, I think France would rush out and vote 'Oui', i.e., slit their own throats to spite the US.
caseclosed
Posted by: reset at May 27, 2005 6:45 PM
suzan is right
In Canada CAIR and another Anti-Jewish
Islamic Org. have a habit of sicking the Police on any email they perceive as "Hostile" ,even moderate Muslims in Canada that have spoken out in public now need personal security and one
had bullet proof windows replace all thier
regular glass.
For a religion of Peace there certainly
is an abundance of hate and blood-lust by
its followers.
at May 27, 2005 7:38 PM
I have to say, I WANT to believe KT is really a harmless lil' ol' secularist, but I'm getting a bit less certain. Perhaps I'm merely too suspicious.
KT, do you go on islamist sites and spread the same joy? =)
Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at May 27, 2005 8:52 PM
I can see KT mentioning Hell-fire and imagining that everyone else who gets remninded of this facet of Christian teaching will wring their hands and say, "Oh, no! He's exposed us!" (if we're conservative Christian) or, "Well, we've gotta watch out for the Bible-thumpers, too!"
Ho hum. Having been condemned to the ash-heap of history by more Marxists than I can count (Pres. Reagan wasn't original on that comment, and knew why it would sting) or dismissed as a lunatic, I wonder why so many secualrists are so worked up about the mention of Hell-fire? Maybe, in their hearts of hearts, they think it exists after all, and they might be headed there?
Well, having seen Pol Pot's people face to face, and having chewed up, digested, and spit out the reporting on Rwanda in 1994 for the benefit of more important people, and having seen the jolly headchoppers, all I can say is that if there isn't an eternal Hell, then God isn't just.
Posted by: Kepha at May 28, 2005 6:38 AM
Carolyn2 asked, "And about the Christian Church claiming everyone else is hell-bound...what belief system doesn't claim that everyone else is wrong?"
Judaism doesn't, Carolyn, and we don't proselytize either.
Posted by: bj at May 28, 2005 12:21 PM
Interesting point bj - no hellfire in Judaism.
I suppose if muslims were really so offended by the entire concept as some posters seem to suggest they ought be, they could join Judaism instead?
Merely a suggestion. =)
G-d rules.
Imam Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at May 28, 2005 5:58 PM
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