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June 1, 2005

Watson: Updated list: Misunderstood Muslims in America

DC Watson discusses some implications of recent arrests of Muslims in America, and the dhimmi "religion of peace" charade that nonetheless continues:

It has become blatantly obvious that no matter how much effort is put into this ridiculous, politically correct "religion of peace" charade, our Intelligence and Law Enforcement agencies continue to gather information leading to the arrests of Muslims in the United States.

The more of these arrests that are made, the less the "tiny minority of extremists who have hijacked Islam" excuse holds water. The number of arrests is steadily growing. Judging by threats being made by Mujahadeen wannabes on some of the Islamic websites, this will likely continue. At least they appear to be threats; weeding through all of the misspelled words is sometimes difficult.

How long should we wait before collectively telling our government that we're no longer interested in putting up with these lying, conspiring racists? And, how much longer before that "tiny minority" of Muslim fanatics becomes an obvious majority?

Memorial Day Weekend: two more Muslims arrested, one in Florida and one in New York. Both were arrested for plotting to aid al Queda. These two Muslims are American citizens who have reportedly pledged their allegiance to Osama bin Laden.

In America today there are more than 150 known terror cells and approximately 3000 terrorist operatives. More than 500 persons have been linked to the September 11th attacks. None of them were members of the Boy Scouts or the Senior Citizen Bowling League. The one thing they all have in common is Islam.

Below is an updated list of arrested, indicted, or convicted Muslims who have lived among us while supporting our enemy:

Ahmed Hassan Al-Uqaily
Randall "Ismail" Royer
Sami Al-Arian
Ghassan Elashi
Nuradin Abdi
José Padilla
Bassem K. Khafagi
Zacarias Moussaoui
Sami Ibrahim Isa Ardel Hadi
Abdurahman Alamoudi
Karim Iraq
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali
Ahmed Barodi
Sadeq Naji Ahmed
Mukhtar al-Bakri
Princess Buniah al-Saud
John Muhammad
Bashir Noorzai
Faysal Galab
Bayan Elashi
Ali al-Timimi
Shafal Mosed
Ibrahim Al-Niqrish
Sahim Alwan
Fawaz Damra
Ihsan Elashyi
Yahya Goba
Ahmed Ressam
Yasein Taher
Ali bin Mussalim
Hasan Akbar
Basman Elashi
Nemr Ali Rahal
Hazim Elashi
Clayton Morgan, aka Isamu Dyson, aka Cayson Bin Don
Tarik ibn Osman Shah
Rafiq Sabir

Where is the Council on American Islamic Relations? Shouldn't they be publicly condemning these people? Well, last anyone heard, they were busy furnishing free Qur'ans to all of us "non-believers," and worrying about the "religious rights" of Somali Muslims who broke an Airport ordinance in Cleveland by leaving their vehicles while in a restricted area in order to pray.

http://www.americansagainsthate.com/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006378.php

I will continue to update this list of arrested Islamic elites, so that the American public has the opportunity to know the names of these outstanding representatives of the "religion of peace." And why not? For what they are, and for what they do, they deserve to be in the spotlight.

In the face of all this, where is the evidence that Islam can co-exist with, or should be trusted unquestioningly by, Western societies?

With regard to the Qur'an, how concerned should non-Muslims be about this book when we learn that the Saudi Arabians make it a practice to confiscate and shred copies of the Holy Bible?

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200505\FOR20050519a.html

Perhaps all of the rioting and threats to America in "Bigotville" and in Britain can now conclude, as the Muslims participating in this activity are accomplishing nothing but making complete fools of themselves on the world's stage.

From Melanie Phillips: Muslim demonstrators in London chanted 'Kill, kill USA', 'Kill, kill George Bush', 'Bomb, bomb New York' and 'Your so-called democracy will fall under the sword of Allah. The day of judgment is coming.'

http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001232.html

Is anyone else finding these threats tiresome? If you're so upset at the U.S. about this false "Qur'an in the commode" story, then why were there no riots here? We all know why, don't we?

It would be beneficial to you to strive for peace. The "sword of Allah" is obsolete. And to us, the ones who provide you with financial aid, the ones who come to your rescue with disaster relief funding and aid workers, the "Sword of Allah" is just another plastic butter knife at a Fourth of July cookout. Savvy?

Posted by Robert at June 1, 2005 11:49 AM
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Great column, DC.

When will Americans act like Howard Beale and go to their windows and shout out, "I'm not going to take it anymore!"

Posted by: nuh [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 12:13 PM

DC hitting it on the head once again. I very much like the "butter knife" reference for the "sword of Allah". Truer words were never spoken.

Posted by: Monty [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 12:34 PM

Im sure those in the know are feed up beyond messure.
those who dont have no interest in finding out.
Bush lied people died
Islam every muslims a terrorist ?
No.
Is every Muslim a member of a seditious anti freedom anti tolerent totalitarian hate group masquerading as a religion.
Yes .
DOes the governemt mean to do anything about the enemy behind the gate ?
No.
Does the sceptical press have a nose for news ?
No.
The only thing they dont want to research less than islam is UFO's
GWBush said Islam is a honorable peaceful religion
why do they believe him?
They have never believed anything else he said.
Round them up ship them out.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 1:05 PM

Referring the sword of allah to a plastic butterknife at an American grill out is a bloody classic. Spot on.

Posted by: Unbridled [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 1:17 PM

DC Watson posted:

"I will continue to update this list of arrested Islamic elites, so that the American public has the opportunity to know the names of these outstanding representatives of the "religion of peace."

Opportunities are so frequently situations or events into which folks simply stumble. Or miss.

I intentionally typed 'Jihad' into my ISP's search engine last fall, and viola! Here I am.

Are there some standard guidelines/procedures the JW/DW upper echelon can offer its troops in order to make info, such as the list contained in DC's latest post, available to a greater pool than just the curious few.

A downloadable info brochure? Standardized business card and/or flyer recommendations? Sample 'Letters to the Editor' that have actually gotten printed. That sort of thing.

Cair makes letter/email/phoncon recommendations to its members. With obvious success.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 2:28 PM
GWBush said Islam is a honorable peaceful religion

It is not very likely that the president and his closest advisors don't know the score. The policy positions that we see broadcast from the White House are usually just a reflection of the position of the median voter plus one. If we want to see government leaders making statements that are a more faithful reflection of the truth on the ground, we need to better educate the median voter, which means at least one half of the voters in the USA needs to understand the score. When that happens, the White House and Congress will both pony up to the bar.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 5:59 PM

So,

What is the most appropriate and efficient method of educating the median voter?

Will television or print news outlets help?

Are WE on our own?

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 8:54 PM

DC Watson posted:The more of these arrests that are made, the less the "tiny minority of extremists who have hijacked Islam" excuse holds water.

Your estimates of the "tiny minority" are really an understimate. The reason is that, this tiny monority of the arrested are just the tip of the iceberg, ie the direct ones who got caught. It is unlikely that the family and friends of the arrested, did not suspect or know, of what was being planned. The support cast is still free. As possible citizens, they were under oath, and duty bound, to report such activities to the authorities. I see from the report, that no such actions took place. What we do hear from friends and relatives is "shock and horror" or "they were such nice and pious muslims", in fact very good muslims. To me, "good muslims", are the real problem. Bad muslims, the real tiny minority, are just fine by me.

I suggest that one needs to multiply 3000 by 5, to get a realistic estimate of the number of terrorists and their faccilitators. Even this maybe an underestimate. Daniel Pipes suggests a figure of 10% for potential terrorists, and 40% as passive or active supporters, in any given muslim population.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 8:56 PM

Hulegu khan posted:If we want to see government leaders making statements that are a more faithful reflection of the truth on the ground, we need to better educate the median voter, which means at least one half of the voters in the USA needs to understand the score. When that happens, the White House and Congress will both pony up to the bar.

Agreed. I posted similar on the thread below

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006461.php

Education. Education. Education.

JW and DW are the best "Islam awareness programmes" from the civilised side of the divide.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 9:20 PM

There have been some posters who came up with gems like: 'Mohammedans are humans too....etc'- OK, humans...

Some seem to think that calling for mass-deportations and summary executions of terror-suspects is 'unwarranted' or 'unhelpful'... while offering no solutions.

I make no apologies. I really think we need to get real about these issues and the sooner the better.Mass-deportations are inevitable.

They are hellbent to bring down the 'great satan' America, and of course the 'Zionist entity' must be destroyed. The way we been fighting it so far is not convincing. Chances are they are succeeding. The cost is astronomical, and the outrageous security measures will become unbearable and paralyze us in the future.

Why should we have to live in fear? Our freedom can only e secured if we get rid of the menace that is Islam. Islam is our sworn enemy and facing up to it is inevitable.

Posted by: Terminator [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 9:36 PM

Hulegu Khan:

I also agree with your reflection on how the President really understands what is going on here. Like Secretary of State Condoleesa Rice, the President and her know fully well what the free world is up against when it comes to the entrenched designs of the totalitarian movement of Islam.

The words they reflect "Islam a peaceful religion" are clearly designed to not polarize the entire Umma at this time in history.

Are western scholars are still hoping for some wiggle room, no matter how remote it surely appears on the horizon. But someday probably soon, the quacking duck will have to be clearly Identified .

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 10:32 PM

hi

I cannot find this article

http://www.americansagainsthate.com/ICBR3-10-00.htm

on the Islamic Center web site

http://www.icbr.org/index.htm

where did that article come from?

Posted by: ploome [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 10:46 PM

Ploome, the article is right here on Dhimmi Watch as well. Here you go.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006370.php

Posted by: Prickzilla [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 11:05 PM

So,

What is the most appropriate and efficient method of educating the median voter?

Will television or print news outlets help?

Are WE on our own?

Posted by: PRCS at June 1, 2005 08:54 PM

The most appropriate and efficient methods would be via mass media; television, radio, newspapers. You can forget all three. Cultural Marxism reigns supreme in most of America and that means no moral judgments, no politically incorrect criticism or revelations about another culture or religion, truth be damned. Moral/cultural/religious relativism is the unwritten law of the land; isn't it amazing how millions of people can be subliminally indoctrinated?! The only fair game for condemnation, criticism, and contempt are Christianity, Judaism, Israel, and Western Civilization, especially American society.

We cannot offend our illustrious muslim fifth column; they are intrepid pioneers in the great multicultural experiment. In fact, they are distinguished members of yet another divine minority group in the U.S., and they hate America, Western Civilization, Christianity, and Judaism as much as the progressives. Islam's useful idiots don't realize it yet, but they are just as reviled as the rest of us godless infidels by the recipients of their largesse.

The only way to educate the public is to encourage people to learn about Islam for themselves. So yes, we're on our own. It's a struggle to even pique the curiosity of most people, but we must keep trying.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2005 11:24 PM

Susanp,

Thanks. I enjoy reading your posts.

I did pick up the 1000 'business cards' last week and have begun placing them in books at the public library and our local book stores.

I've also placed several flyers in the rear window of my pickup truck. I don't have a gun rack, so can't be accused of 'redneckism'.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 6:35 AM

DP111:

Now you speaka- me- language: 'the good muslim is the problem, the bad muslim is OK'- That's what I kept saying: Osama is a 'good' one, Zarqawi is the 'best'- because they live according to the 'prophet', and that filthy book...

Once people understand that, they understand Islam. That will be the end of Islam...

Posted by: Terminator [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 8:02 AM

DC Watson.

Thanks for the updated list and appreciate the info. I've been passing this arrest info around for some time now...

Posted by: jawa [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 10:12 AM

Islam is an ideology which "converts" by militant tactics. Whoever doesn't recognize that truth is not in touch with reality. Time and again, orthodox Islam has suppressed any practitioners who see their "faith" as a personal matter.

Read the book "Sword of the Prophet." That book opened my eyes to the truth after many years of my having been subjected to political correntness.

Posted by: WatchfulEye [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2005 10:57 AM

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