Not Europe - but we will certainly have some dark times ahead. Sweden, however, sold away its Christian birthright long ago for a mess of pottage. Now it cannot go back; to make any value judgment on different religions would imply that some are better than others - and would fundamentally challenge a ruling class which has deliberately emasculated Swedish Christianity for its own purposes. Rather turn all of Sweden into a Muslim fiefdom than allow Swedes to know about the guy on the cross - you know, the cross, that shape picked out in gold on the Swedish flag.

Posted by: Paolo at June 8, 2005 8:50 AM

What a disconnect for the country that gave the world, "I am curious, yellow."

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 8, 2005 9:01 AM

This is a shame for Europe. I lived in Europe for about two years and it's overrun with Muslims from every ME country. I think Europe needs to forgive itself for WWII. There seems to be this problem of saying something bad against a certain group - especially in Germany.

The worst place for me was Paris France. They, North African Muslims, were everywhere. I couldn't walk two steps without one of them trying to sell me some cheap piece of sh*t.

Posted by: Laurel at June 8, 2005 9:43 AM

Should Sweden allow this I wouldn't quite know what to say - I would be speechless. Paolo makes a good point regarding moral relativity of the liberal ruling class. When the day of reckoning comes, it's going to be ugly.

Posted by: johnb at June 8, 2005 9:52 AM

For those of you who don't know Sweden too well, here are some examples:

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/06/tale-of-two-nations.html

Sweden's National Day, 2005. Extreme Leftists against neo-Nazis. The Leftists were demonstrating "against nationalism: For international solidarity, abolish the nation state". They were also burning a Swedish flag in the heart of Stockholm, shouting: "We want to see Sweden fall!".

In Stockholm the opposing camps started their marches shortly after noon under clearing skies. Some 400 right-wingers had gathered on central Stockholm's Odenplan square for a "People's March," including a group wearing a uniform of black berets, jackboots, khaki trousers and black tops, and brandishing brown and black flags. "We are demonstrating on behalf of all those who still believe in nationhood and race," said Per, a demonstrator who would only give his first name. The rightists, marching in orderly formation, were outnumbered by left-wing demonstrators who started their march about a kilometre down the road at the same time. Many of the leftwing demonstrators, who totalled 600 to 700 according to police estimates, covered their faces with black scarves and were carrying large square plastic shields. Chanting slogans like "Fight fascism" and "Down with international capitalism" they moved towards the south of the city as riot police cordoned off streets.

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/is-swedish-democracy-collapsing.html

Is Swedish Democracy Collapsing?

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/government-sponsored-swedish-feminists.html

Government Sponsored Swedish Feminists: "Men are Animals"

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/more-immigrants-needed-to-pay-for.html

More immigrants needed "to pay for welfare"

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/violent-sweden-spiralling-out-of.html

Violent Sweden Spiralling out of Control

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/swedish-police-unmotivated-to-fight.html

Swedish Police "Unmotivated" to Fight Rising Crime

Police researcher Stefan Holgersson, who has interviewed 2000 Swedish police officers, says the problem is not due to a lack of police. Oh, really? Well, Sweden has a very low number of police officers per capita, even compared to Scandinavian neighbors. Gangs of 14 - 15-year-olds raping and robbing is now common in many Stockholm suburbs. Mafia networks demanding protecting money from private businesses and giving bomb threats to municipal workers are increasingly common. Organized crime is no longer just a problem in the major cities. It has now spread throughout most of Sweden.

Posted by: Fjordman at June 8, 2005 11:03 AM

Dressing like Mohammad might not be all bad. Once he was rich, I suspect he dressed quite well. There may be a ground floor business here, selling Mohammad fashions on the net. There are muslim style clothes on the net, but no one claims they immitate Mohammad. That is probably forbidden. If dressing like Mo becomes a law of the land, the dollar door opens...

Posted by: duh_swami at June 8, 2005 11:24 AM

Sweden looks like a perfect example of cultural schizophrenic suicide:

Fascists who will detroy the meaning of their country versus nihilistic leftists who will let immigrant invaders to do for them.

Maybe a psychological schism as a result of their supressed guilt feelings for reamining 'neutral' during WW II.

The "Counterfeit Traitor" is a good work in this regard, when one Swede- Eric Erickson- still had some testicular fortitude. (A good book and decent film.)

We need more like him today.

(Maybe his being American-born helped?)

Posted by: BigSleep at June 8, 2005 11:49 AM

fjordman:

Haven't executed the link to know what the story is, but "Immigrants needed to pay for welfare"? I thought Muslim immigrants were the prime consumers of social assistance in Europe, and, unlike retirees on pensions, do so without having previously made any contribution.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 8, 2005 12:42 PM

No foreign money should be allowed to fund mosques and madrasas. They must be self-sustaining, paid for by their own members. They must not be funded, either, by Infidel taxpayers, who are tricked into believing that "good" mosques (i.e., carefully monitored by the Infidel governments) are the answer. They are not. No mosques, or ill-funded mosques that are not attractive or imposing, are the answer.

Nothing should be done by Infidels to make the practice and hence the spread of Islam any easier than it already is. This is not intolerance but self-defense.

Posted by: Hugh at June 8, 2005 5:11 PM

We have a crisis in the UK of massive proportions regarding Muslim immigrants who make all sorts of demands on schools and other organisations to basically change our way of life to accommodate them. I blame this on the liberal minded multi-culturalists who have encouraged immigrants not to integrate and who share their basic despisement of British values and traditions. The current administration is overseeing an avalanche of immigrants from all corners of the world with no health screening or criminal checks of any kind. TB, Aids and other diseases have soared in the capital. Many of them come into the country on the flimsiest of pretexts such as setting up a business but are unable to produce any documents or bank accounts, or pretend to be studying English. They are heavy users of social security benefits. Recent figures from the Government's own departments show second generation Bangladeshis have an unemployment rate of 61% Of course, none of this is published or discussed in the media except by right of centre groups like Civitas. The Government has shown the most craven grovelling to Muslim pressures in order to gain their votes and co-operation. The UK hosts all kinds of extremist fundamentalist groups and even invites these people to conferences. I thought Sweden was more sensible but I see it's happening all over Europe. At least, banning the hijab from schools is a start in France.

Posted by: londongirl at June 12, 2005 7:10 AM