Tribal barbarian mobots
who pass for humans.

Posted by: the poetess at June 16, 2005 8:49 PM

cavemen
cavelaw

Posted by: butterfly at June 16, 2005 9:08 PM

"When the incident came to the notice of the council, it ordered that she marry her father-in-law and change her relationship with her husband to that between a mother and son."

How screwed up do they have to be to come up with a proposal like that?

Religion of peace my ass ... religion of rape, barbarity and murder is more appropriate!

Posted by: Don Miguel de la Piedra at June 16, 2005 9:35 PM

It also ordered her to leave her home and stay away for seven month and 10 days to become "pure"...

...I have stayed away from home for seven month and ten days, numerous times and I'm not pure yet, but I am getting close...

When the incident came to the notice of the council, it ordered that she marry her father-in-law and change her relationship with her husband to that between a mother and son.

...Now thats a good one...she is supposed to magically become her husbands mother. Are these people for real?
I have a dog thats smarter than that. Just proves that some animals are smarter than some people...

Posted by: duh_swami at June 16, 2005 10:03 PM

There seems to be two different stories here mixed together. In one the woman is 22, in the other she is 28. In one the incident took place at home, in the other the incident took place in a hospital. Also check the dates on the articles.

But the common theme is that the female rape victim was offered the chance to marry her rapist supposedly to protect her "honor." Evidently an innocent person can be "dishonored" and stigmatized for life by the criminal act of another upon their person. What kind of society is that?

And to suggest in the one case that the victim marry her attacker (her father-in-law) and give up the marriage she already had (to his son, who would then become her son) shows an astouding disregard for the marriage bond.

Also - how could the council even consider that the woman could marry her rapist, someone who violated her? Shouldn't there be at least a little love, respect, mutual regard as a basis for marriage?

This from the religion which claims to honor and respect women!

And the order to stay away from home for seven months etc. to become "pure" - can't help but think there is a connection here with the theory that the oppression of women has as one of its aims the ensuring of the paternity of the child. Not sure of the time span which has elapsed since the rape, but just think - if the woman returns after this time pregnant, the father is likely ... well, fill in the blank! If she returns not pregnant, then her marriage can resume as before (well, sort of!). Simplistic thinking yes - but isn't all of this?

Both these women will need a deep store of courage to continue with their lives. Here's hoping they get the support they need from people who can help them see the truth behind the society and the religion which considers them "defiled."

Posted by: Jen at June 16, 2005 10:53 PM

Nothing that comes from an Islamic society can shock me anymore. Back in December a woman was executed for adultery, or sex outside of the marriage. The fact that she was gang raped didn't factor in, because she needs 4 male eyewitnesses to back up her story. Unfortunately for a woman who is raped in one these mullahcracies her best chance at survival is silence. Want more proof?

http://www.memritv.org Clip #709

It's a shame the feministas never stand up for these poor women. It would be to Christian like for liberals to plead their cause.

Posted by: Infidel One at June 17, 2005 2:06 AM

Jen:

If you haven't read it already, you might find the transcript of a symposium on "Honour Killings" posted a week ago on FrontPageMag.com very enlightening reading re: the status of women in Islam and the linkage between terrorism and violence against women:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18370

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 17, 2005 8:58 AM

SPQR:

I doubt that you were banned at JW because you wouldn't be able to post at DW either.

Sometimes Spencer deletes a post or two but it usually takes repetitive egregious behavior for him to ban someone; plus, he seldom reads comments, and only on selective threads, and only for a certain length of time. We DO have frequent glitches within the system, especially with TypeKey. I suggest contacting Spencer at director@jihadwatch.org and asking him directly. He will tell you why posts were deleted and if you have broken some of his "rules", he will re-instate you as long as you apologize and promise not to repeat any offending behavior.

Spencer is merciful, most compassionate and
oft-forgiving. ; - )

Posted by: CGW at June 17, 2005 12:25 PM

Wait a minute! This poor Indian guy was try to follow the steps of his prophet.
Mumo once had a tiny little look at the thighs of Zeinab,the wife of his adopted son, Zeid. He immediately fell in love with her. But because he is the most honest person on earth, he just asked his son, Zeid, if he's still interested in Zeinab. The poor son denied any desire in his wife, the next day she was wed to Mumo.
Read it all in Sura 33:37 and El-Tabary,
http://quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?l=arb&taf=TABARY&nType=1&nSora=33&nAya=37

If only this moslem guy asked us, infidels, kafirs, najis, we would have saved him a lot of troubles. The real irony is that Mussies accuse us of ignorance, when in fact they know nothing about the religion of good manners!!

Posted by: enoughisenough at June 17, 2005 6:38 PM

If my father in law did that to me, he'd crush me under the sheer weight of his fat. """""shudder""""

No thanks

Posted by: SexyKafira1 at June 17, 2005 10:18 PM

Not to mention the Dhimmi Hindu that make up 80% of the population put up with this, and with their 'leaders' catering to such people. There is talk of reserving seats in GOVERNMENT on the basis of religion. Which means, reservation for minorities, majorities.... they have to do things the old fashioned way.

Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Mother' India this story, and the indian perspective...

Posted by: Absolution at June 18, 2005 12:58 AM

Only Franz Kafka's "The Trial" comes close to this madness.

Maybe Court TV needs to GO INTERNATIONAL.

If people in the West saw trials like this (instead of the celebrity candyfloss currently clogging the airwaves) it would be an eye-opener to Islam, exposing its root savagery.

"Longum iter est per precepta, breve et efficax per exempla.

(Long is the way through instruction, short and effective through example.)

Posted by: BigSleep at June 18, 2005 2:52 AM

Waterdragon52:

Thanks for the link to FrontPageMag.com - this article has given me enough food for thought for a year ... or more! Particularly fascinating to me was the comment “the role of women in Islam has to do with ... the 'interface' between religion and politics, which has its ground in the fact of collective psychology.” Psychology, feminism, terrorism, religion - great! I always knew these were deeply inter-related - and they are - and add politics to the mix and ... well, lots to think about for sure.

The link between the oppression of women and terrorism is a theme I’ve been exploring recently. It makes much more sense that you might think initially. I had my eyes opened by the book The Demon Lover: The Roots of Terrorism by Robin Morgan. (My copy is actually entitled The Demon Lover: The Sexuality of Terrorism - perhaps indicating a shift in perceptions since 1989, the year it was first published).

Thanks again,
Jen

Posted by: Jen at June 18, 2005 4:17 PM

Glad you found the article interesting. I'm sorry they didn't pull Phyllis Chessler into the discussion as, having been married to an Afghan herself and lived in Afghanistan in the 1960s, she would have brought not only her insights into sexual politics to the mix, but her personal experiences as well.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at June 18, 2005 9:11 PM