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Harvey Enchin writes in the Vancouver Sun, with thanks to Boomeros.
Hours after the terror attacks on the London subway and a bus last week, the Canadian Islamic Congress issued a brief statement that condemned the bombing.It offered no condolences, expressed no grief, displayed no shock; it was instead a directive to the public not to blame Islam.
"We hope Canadian Muslims are not found guilty by association," said its national president, Mohamed Elmasry.
Criticism forced him to subsequently toss in some disingenuous sympathy, but he'd shown his true colours. That Elmasry should be speaking as the head of any Islamic organization is an affront to what its followers call a religion of peace.
Last year, he suggested all Israelis over the age of 18 should be murdered, arguing that because Israel has a civilian army they are legitimate targets for Palestinian suicide bombers. There were calls for his resignation, which Muslim leaders refused. Later, on a CBC radio program, he defended Islamic terrorism, saying the colonial powers committed worse atrocities and deserved what they got....
As long as apologists for terrorism like Elmasry are allowed to be spokesmen for Islam, all Muslims are vulnerable to being found guilty by association...
What is obvious is that Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Iraq, where the U.S. and its allies ousted a repressive regime and have invested billions of dollars to rebuild the country while putting their citizens' lives at risk to establish democracy.
Nor has it anything to with the Palestinians to whom the G-8 leaders have committed another $3 billion US to help establish an independent state even though the Palestinian Authority has done nothing to dismantle its vast terrorist network as it is obliged to do under the "road map."
Neither can Islamic terrorism be linked to the overthrow of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, where the U.S. liberated a people from tyranny, giving them the right for the first time to choose their government; or to the West's encouragement of the fledgling human rights movement in the Muslim world, where the concept has been unknown.
No, the terrorists despise the West because it is there, because its principles of religious freedom, democracy and equality are anathema to them.
So moderate Muslim leaders have to do more than grudgingly concede that blowing up innocent people on a subway train is bad. They have to rout out the evil in their midst.
Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims. There is no place in civil society for an ideology that celebrates mass murder or deems suicide bombing a sacred act.
Moderate Muslim leaders must take aggressive steps to ensure that Islam proves to be what they keep telling everybody it is -- a religion of tolerance and peace.
Posted by Rebecca at July 17, 2005 2:11 PM
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The nasty nasty horrible nature of these 'leaders' is being smoked out across the world in the aftermath of these attacks. Keep up the pressure on the bigots and lunatics.
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at July 17, 2005 3:25 PM
Shhhsh! Don't tell anyone, but spokesimans like Elmasry are great (for us). And while it's nice to turn the flashlight on and see them scurry away behind the kitchen counter, still, they are great for us because they reveal their true nature far better, or at least validating, what the good guys say.
Posted by: Seymour Paine at July 17, 2005 3:44 PM
Israel just needs to go and finish the job. Palestinians are too ignorant to deserve their own state. They want to push the Israelis into the sea, not just have their own neighborhood.
Fire up the choppers.
Posted by: DCWatson at July 17, 2005 4:22 PM
"They want to push the Israelis into the sea, not just have their own neighborhood."
You can swap the word Isrealis with Palestinians and the statement would be true, ever heard of Greater Israel???
at July 17, 2005 6:40 PM
Odd, isn't it, that once upon a time our fellow-travelling leftists would have relentlessly intoned Marx's accusation: "Religion is the opium of the people". Today, they can't rush fast enough to the defence of probably the most odious, callous,murderous and genocidal religion that this world has ever seen.
Still, its not hard to figure: the Nazis used to say that their best recruits were former communists. Today, we see the brown-black muslim alliance in full marching order and marching to the same hymns: western democracy is corrupt and decadent, Jews are at the bottom of everything vile etc, etc...
Muslims ought to remember that once the West got its act together, Germany and Japan were flattened. The flattening of Islam is coming to a theatre near you - soon, Mohammed, doncha know?
Posted by: iconoclast at July 17, 2005 7:07 PM
The Canadian army, such as it is, is making some mouth noises in the past few days, telling the populace to expect some injuries or even some deaths among soldiers in Afghanistan! The Canadian reaction?
By DANIEL LEBLANC
Saturday, July 16, 2005 Page A4
OTTAWA -- Canada's blunt-talking top soldier won praise yesterday for his clear and sometimes brutal description of the coming military effort against terrorist "scumbags" in Afghanistan.
Gen. Hillier's vow to hunt down terrorists did ruffle some feathers. Maude Barlow, chairwoman of the Council of Canadians, said Canada should retain a more level-headed approach to events such as last week's terrorist attacks in London.
"I'm feeling it's time for people to be as calm as possible. . . . I would love Canada to play a thoughtful, moderating position in this," she said, denouncing Gen. Hillier's comments as "very aggressive."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
Barlow represents, so far, the vast majority of Canadians I speak with. Yes, they're nice people, but they make me ill. So no, they're not nice people. They stand by wringing their hands while thousands of innocents are murdered daily by fascist Moslems, and the majority of Canadians cry and blame America. With friends like them who needs ?
The vast majority of them are so soused in simpering Left platitudes that they can't have a conversataion without bursting into tears over "Third World suffering" of any imagined sort.
Meanwhile, in the heart of the city I witness a daily death-toll of drug addicts and mental patients that nearly rivals that of Afghanitsn itself.
Stepping over the ocassional corpse on the sidewalk one of our drop-ins angrily referred to me as a "war mongrel." Happy to be so. Whoof.
Any Vancouverites in the neighbourhood are welcome to contact me. I'll buy the coffee. Or, if you're a violent Moslem, I'll pour the coffee.
Posted by: sonofwalker at July 17, 2005 9:08 PM
"The vast majority of them are so soused in simpering Left platitudes..."
-- from a posting above
A main problem with Canada is the strong desire of so many Canadians to define themselves negatively: NOT America. And we are NOT Americans. And if America is identified with certain policies, such as worrying about Islam, then it follows as the night the day that good Canadians, careful to spell what used to be "Micmac" as "Mi'qma'q" or some such -- pardon the apostrophes in the wrong places, will you? I shall spend a year or two at the McCord Museum learning precisely how to properly write that word, so as not to give offense), will find something wrong with those policies.
That is a terrible pity. A grotesque error. Look at Quebec today, where those so eager to admit immigrants who were francophone managed to overlook the little matter of Islam, and permitted in all sorts of maghrebins -- to the great dismay, incidentally, of Maronites and other Middle Eastern Christians who know better what Islam is all about -- merely because it was felt they would "fit in" and swell the ranks of Francophonie. Yes to the latter, no to the former. A mad rash silly policy.
C'mon Canada. So we are, as W. H. Auden said in a poem about America, "so large, so stupid, and so rich." Possibly. But we have our saving graces. And you have to stop making policy toward the menace of Islam based on the notion of doing whatever is most likely to annoy, disturb, infuriate -- epater -- les americains.
Let's be friends, shall we. You can be the Colossus of our North, and we will be the Colossus to your South, and let's make up. And let's both get Islam straight.
Posted by: Hugh at July 17, 2005 10:07 PM
"The vast majority of them are so soused in simpering Left platitudes..."
-- from a posting above
A main problem with Canada is the strong desire of so many Canadians to define themselves negatively: NOT America. And we are NOT Americans. And if America is identified with certain policies, such as worrying about Islam, then it follows as the night the day that good Canadians, careful to spell what used to be "Micmac" as "Mi'qma'q" or some such -- pardon the apostrophes in the wrong places, will you? I shall spend a year or two at the McCord Museum learning precisely how to properly write that word, so as not to give offense), will find something wrong with those policies.
That is a terrible pity. A grotesque error. Look at Quebec today, where those so eager to admit immigrants who were francophone managed to overlook the little matter of Islam, and permitted in all sorts of maghrebins -- to the great dismay, incidentally, of Maronites and other Middle Eastern Christians who know better what Islam is all about -- merely because it was felt they would "fit in" and swell the ranks of Francophonie. Yes to the latter, no to the former. A mad rash silly policy.
C'mon Canada. So we are, as W. H. Auden said in a poem about America, "so large, so stupid, and so rich." Possibly. But we have our saving graces. And you have to stop making policy toward the menace of Islam based on the notion of doing whatever is most likely to annoy, disturb, infuriate -- epater -- les americains.
Let's be friends, shall we? You can be the Colossus of our North, and we will be the Colossus of your South, and let's kiss and make up. And then we can get on with what is now most important, which is to jettison all those pieties of the age, those articles of faith about "tolerance" and "diversity" and "We All Want the Same Thing" and this sort of stuff that is used to prevent us from seeing Islam steadily, and seeing it whole.
Let's see it steadily. Let's see it whole. Together again at last, in L'Amerique septentrionale.
Posted by: Hugh at July 17, 2005 10:09 PM
ia786:
"If it's a Muslim problem, it needs a Muslim solution."
by Thomas Friedman
http://www.natashatynes.org/newswire/2005/07/a_muslim_proble.html
"Because there is no obvious target to retaliate against, and because there are not enough police to police every opening in an open society, either the Muslim world begins to really restrain, inhibit and denounce its own extremists -- if it turns out that they are behind the London bombings -- or the West is going to do it for them. And the West will do it in a rough, crude way -- by simply shutting them out, denying them visas and making every Muslim in its midst guilty until proven innocent."
ia786: if you don't understand yet, let me spell it out for you. The next large scale Muslim terror attack on North American soil will result in: 1)internment of Muslims in concentration camps; 2)deportation of as many Muslims as possible; 3) the end of Muslim immigration; 4) the strict regulation of the Muslim faith as per Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Tunisia, Singapore, etc.. If you think we're stupid ia786, we are not. It just takes a little while for us to wake up to a problem. When we do, we all work together to deal with it. Too bad you're the problem, ia786. I hope you like living in Saudi Arabia or Iran, cause that's where you're going, assuming you live in North America!
Posted by: Mentat at July 17, 2005 10:10 PM
Mentat, I think that ia786 is British and given the way the Brits react to Islamic extremism, I think he'll be living in Britain for a long time.
Posted by: Voltaire at July 18, 2005 12:21 AM
Iconoclast writes: "Muslims ought to remember that once the West got its act together, Germany and Japan were flattened. The flattening of Islam is coming to a theatre near you - soon, Mohammed, doncha know?"
Oh yes, it gratifies the emotions to walk with a swagger and spew bravado. But you are wrong my friend, if you think this problem will be solved via the "Japanese Solution"...(my take-off from CIA parlance in the 1950s, when the orchestrated imposition of Gen. Alfredo Stroessner upon the people of Paraguay inaugurated the conceptual paradigm called the "Paraguayan Solution"...the prototypical military coup...later to be employed with such chilling effect in Brazil in '64 and Chile in '73).
Even in the unlikely event that Rep. Tancredo's trial balloon were operationally employed...and Mecca and Medina were obliterated in response to a nuclear terror attack on the USA, the "Japanese Solution" would in no way end the struggle. It would only make it irrevocable; a literal fight to the death. America's cities would burn as the Nation of Islam coalesced with Muslims of foreign origin to exact their revenge for the destruction of the "Holy" cities. The carnage would be unimaginable.
But make no mistake, the hit on America is coming, sooner than later. And Bin Ladin's modus operandi has always been to embrace the spectacular. I don't see a simple mall bombing or something of that nature...not as the encore to follow 9-11. No my friends, we are moving inexorably down the road to the use of WMDs. Thousands or even tens of thousands will die. The economy will nose-dive. Investors will flee America like rats jumping from a sinking ship.
How will we respond? How should we respond? I don't have the wisdom to answer such a question.
I know only one thing for certain: even if the problems posed by terrorism are insurmountable, an honest exposition of Islamic intolerance is the only viable moral course of action for the West. Regardless of what occurs on the battlefield, we must begin doing something as a civilization that we've refrained from doing up until now. We must begin teaching Islam to our children much the way Communism was taught to the Post-War generation, as the very real threat to freedom and security that it is. We must begin to encourage apostasy on a mass scale from the ummah...openly highlighting the intolerance of Islamic theology and in particular, exposing the moral failings of the Prophet Muhammad himself as so poignantly revealed in the Hadith.
Sadly, it is precisely an attack of mass proportion that is the one thing that might just galvanize our public officials into a sober re-examination of our politically-correct approach to Islam. But by then, it will probably be too late. The clarian call for revenge will be irresistible. Like the rest of you, I'll want blood in the worst way.
God help us all.
at July 18, 2005 1:49 AM
Iconoclast writes: "Muslims ought to remember that once the West got its act together, Germany and Japan were flattened. The flattening of Islam is coming to a theatre near you - soon, Mohammed, doncha know?"
Oh yes, it gratifies the emotions to walk with a swagger and spew bravado. But you are wrong my friend, if you think this problem will be solved via the "Japanese Solution"...(my take-off from CIA parlance in the 1950s, when the orchestrated imposition of Gen. Alfredo Stroessner upon the people of Paraguay inaugurated the conceptual paradigm called the "Paraguayan Solution"...the prototypical military coup...later to be employed with such chilling effect in Brazil in '64 and Chile in '73).
Even in the unlikely event that Rep. Tancredo's trial balloon were operationally employed...and Mecca and Medina were obliterated in response to a nuclear terror attack on the USA, the "Japanese Solution" would in no way end the struggle. It would only make it irrevocable; a literal fight to the death. America's cities would burn as the Nation of Islam coalesced with Muslims of foreign origin to exact their revenge for the destruction of the "Holy" cities. The carnage would be unimaginable.
But make no mistake, the hit on America is coming, sooner than later. And Bin Ladin's modus operandi has always been to embrace the spectacular. I don't see a simple mall bombing or something of that nature...not as the encore to follow 9-11. No my friends, we are moving inexorably down the road to the use of WMDs. Thousands or even tens of thousands will die. The economy will nose-dive. Investors will flee America like rats jumping from a sinking ship.
How will we respond? How should we respond? I don't have the wisdom to answer such a question.
I know only one thing for certain: even if the problems posed by terrorism are insurmountable, an honest exposition of Islamic intolerance is the only viable moral course of action for the West. Regardless of what occurs on the battlefield, we must begin doing something as a civilization that we've refrained from doing up until now. We must begin teaching Islam to our children much the way Communism was taught to the Post-War generation, as the very real threat to freedom and security that it is. We must begin to encourage apostasy on a mass scale from the ummah...openly highlighting the intolerance of Islamic theology and in particular, exposing the moral failings of the Prophet Muhammad himself as so poignantly revealed in the Hadith.
Sadly, it is precisely an attack of mass proportion that is the one thing that might just galvanize our public officials into a sober re-examination of our politically-correct approach to Islam. But by then, it will probably be too late. The clarian call for revenge will be irresistible. Like the rest of you, I'll want blood in the worst way.
God help us all.
at July 18, 2005 1:51 AM
After Bali, hundreds of thousands of mossies died from the tsunami in Indonesia. (that`s `x00,000) - in the twinkling of an eye.
Now after the Pakis in london, there`s been a train crash in Paki-land where 150 died. But 1,000 were injured-which would imply that more will die, there`ll be amputations and many will be maimed for life.
In Iraq mossies are just blowing each other up.
FASTER PLEASE.
at July 18, 2005 2:40 AM
After Bali, hundreds of thousands of mossies died from the tsunami in Indonesia. (that`s `x00,000) - in the twinkling of an eye.
Now after the Pakis in london, there`s been a train crash in Paki-land where 150 died. But 1,000 were injured-which would imply that more will die, there`ll be amputations and many will be maimed for life.
In Iraq mossies are just blowing each other up.
FASTER PLEASE.
at July 18, 2005 2:41 AM
After Bali, hundreds of thousands of mossies died from the tsunami in Indonesia. (that`s `x00,000) - in the twinkling of an eye.
Now after the Pakis in london, there`s been a train crash in Paki-land where 150 died. But 1,000 were injured-which would imply that more will die, there`ll be amputations and many will be maimed for life.
In Iraq mossies are just blowing each other up.
FASTER PLEASE.
at July 18, 2005 2:41 AM
There is a way to end this thing--this cowing of the West with references to legal rights, the Constitution, the courts, etc. whenever measures to stop them are taken.
The insidious resort to our laws, civil rights, etc. are combined with terrorist killings--condemned as being "against the tenets of Islam" or some such words. References to that "Islam is a religion of peace" are added.
Yes, there is a way to end it. It's not nice, nor politically correct, nor "fair," but it will work.
Posted by: unicorns62000 at July 18, 2005 3:18 AM
Cornelius, ofcourse you are right. Westerners may be able to tolerate the occasional suicide bombing, but we won't be able to tolerate a huge 5000 degree centigrade mushroom cloud over a major city. When that happens every option will be on the table. The islamic appologists will not have any legs to stand on and frankly I beleive Islam in the west will end.
Posted by: obl r us at July 18, 2005 3:31 AM
I thought I would share an amazing radio segment that aired last week here in NYC on NPR, that reflects what the original article and respondents have noted. The purpose of the 'roundtable' on public station WNYC was purportedly to discuss the local Muslim community's response to the London bombings. Three 'Islamic leaders' were invited, including a spokesperson for a Flushing, Queens, NY mosque, one leader of some greater NY muslim council (?), and a Pakastani analyst working for a Canadian security company.
Given the large number of Muslims in the New York metro area, one would think that this radio forum would represent a great oppportunity for the muslim community to utterly condemn these actions. Not suprisingly, not one word of sorrow or condolence was expressed by any of the men in this roundtable. Incredibly, one of the clerics went so far as to actually question the veracity of the news reports indicating a 'home-grown' second-generation British muslim responsibility. There was no sentiment of a larger sense of Muslim responsibility for the slaughter, or a sense that they as muslim leaders had a responsibility to work against the forces at work in their religion that led to these acts. Instead, the apologist's credo prevailed for all three, ranging from Western involvement in the Iraqi war, to the 'acute discrimination' experienced by UK muslims (utter nonsense). It is interesting to note that during the one hour that this program aired on the radio, no calls by listeners (which is the normal format for the program) were permitted.
at July 20, 2005 3:56 PM
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