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By making rules disallowing the expulsion of preachers who spread hatred and jihad. "EU to set down rules for expelling extremists," from the Telegraph, with thanks to Daryl:
Britain is facing a clash with Brussels over EU plans to grant sweeping rights to foreigners ordered to leave - whether failed asylum seekers or Islamic extremists facing deportation. The Home Office is expected this week to begin proceedings aimed at removing foreign nationals who fall foul of a new list of "unacceptable behaviours" that give backing to terrorists.At the same time, however, the European Commission is preparing to publish a new directive that will effectively bar EU states from sending people back to countries where they could face persecution or torture.
It will also limit the length of time people can be detained pending their deportation.
Proposals to be unveiled tomorrow will set out rules for returning illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers to their home countries.
They are part of a common asylum policy for the EU that Britain has strongly supported in the past but which may conflict with plans outlined by Tony Blair and Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, following the London terrorist attacks.
The new "returns directive" would include the right to be detained for no more than a year after a court had ordered removal - a provision that could trigger chaos in Britain, where lengthy appeals have seen some individuals remain in detention for years.
EU sources said they were keen to end the situation where failed asylum seekers and other foreign nation also found themselves in limbo, for prolonged periods.
The directive would give every unwanted foreign national an explicit right to appeal their removal, separate from any appeals involving their original asylum application, or refugee status.
In addition, all those ordered removed would be allowed to ask a judge to suspend or stay their deportation pending appeal.
The directive also gives judges the right to refuse to grant such a stay, meaning expelled imams or other extremists could find themselves contemplating the progress of an appeal from a foreign jail cell.
Posted by Robert at August 31, 2005 4:21 PM
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Maybe if the UK promised only to extradite these radicals to member-nations represented on the UN Human Rights committee -- y'know, those leading luminares such as Saudi Arabia adn the Sudan, then it would be ok, neh?
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at August 31, 2005 4:33 PM
Dear Britisch Infidels,
Do not, I repeat, do NOT bow to the Eurabian Commission in any way when your society is being undermined by a large jihad supporting muslim community. Do whatever you deem necessary to keep your country free from hate spouting imams and islamists that not support the fundamentals of Britisch society.
Best of luck.
Posted by: Jan Vink at August 31, 2005 4:43 PM
The whole Brussels EU complex needs to be destroyed before it destroys Europe. I think the Muslims have taken control of the EU and Brussels. There is a huge Muslim population there. Thank God Australia never got sucked into that sinkhole called the EU.
Posted by: pedestrian infidel at August 31, 2005 4:57 PM
Latest on the EU from Amicus News,
"Yesterday, the EU commission increased their security alert level from "Run" to "Hide", in response to the recent wave of Islamic terrorism. The EU Commission has only two higher levels of emergency, which are "Surrender" and "Collaberate". This change is in response to the recent London bombings and also to the fact that Brussels' largest white flag factory was recently destroyed in an accidental fire.
Leading expert on Europe and Islam, Bat Ye'or, said there must be some confusion in the EU Parliament, as many of them have been collaberating with Islamic Jihadists for years."
Posted by: Amicus at August 31, 2005 5:08 PM
The people that are being deported have advocated genocide and mass murder, yet the EU is worried that they may be tortured in their muslim homelands?I find it interesting that their "right to life" is more important then the "right to life" of people they seek to murder. Blair said his government would change the law if necessary in order to deport this filth. Of course the Brits could choose to ignore the EU the way the Isreali's ignored the World Court order to dismantle the security fence.The US also ignores foolish decrees from "world" organizations.The EU constitution has been already been rejected by two European nations, dhimmi decrees like this will only hasten the EUs demise.
Posted by: Roxane at August 31, 2005 5:48 PM
Oh, Brussels... That explains a lot. If Belgium allows the Islamofascists to take over Catholic Chapels in Brussels, it is only natural to expect that it will direct all its political influence to protecting the precious right of Muslims to preach hatred against the countries that have kindly accepted them.
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at August 31, 2005 5:57 PM
This may much to do about nothing,after all Britain is not a member of the EU even though the UK was a signatory to this action at the convention which is not a EU treaty as of yet . The action with the EEC in July predates membership in the EU prior to the London bombings. There is still plenty of wiggle room for PM Blairs Government to extradite without the blessings of the courts as long as diplomatic pledges are secured before deportations from such nations. At this point one has to believe that the UK may decide not to opt into making this british Law. Certainly one begins to ask why would Britain be willing to defer to the Eu that much power over their sovereignty and independence. Would the US allow the United nations to decide how to proceed with the handling of seditious and traiterous persons in their country?
Posted by: Mackie at August 31, 2005 6:30 PM
The EU also decided that the Brits can't drink pints anymore. I simply can't understand why people want to be part of this good for nothing, bureaucratic, tax-money guzzling monster.
Posted by: Leveller at August 31, 2005 7:40 PM
The EU from Brussels dictating terms to HMG! Good show. That is the way to get the attention of the tabloids.
Well, it all seems to be coming to a head. I dearly hope so, and it is'nt be a moment too soon.
dolphin:
Belgium is having a little problem with the burqa. Apparantly it is illegal in Belgium to hide your face, unless there are medical reasons for doing so.
at August 31, 2005 7:41 PM
Well if they'd be tortured in their homeland, why can't the behave in the lands of their hosts? Sound like a personal problem for the fanatic Muslims who can't control themselves. Let them fend for themselves.
Individual nations should have the right to import and deport any one they deem necessary.
If they cannot, then they should close their borders to any future Muslim immigration.
Posted by: DCWatson at August 31, 2005 8:01 PM
This terrible incident with the EU is EXCELLENT grounds for the UK pulling OUT of the EU and helping the USA organize the "Anglosphere" agglomeration of nations that speak English and practice the type of democratic values they in the UK and other culturally similar nations are accustomed to.
We think that continental Europe's loyalty to democracy is much thinner and more dubious than outsiders believe. The Divine Right permeates the workings of the EU and we think their overall handling of the Islamic terror issue reflects that.
Other nations to be included in the 'Angloshpere' are Australia, New Zealand, and possibly India.
Posted by: pythagoras at August 31, 2005 8:17 PM
These illegal immigrants who fear torture if sent back home have got a good scam going. Be a troublemaking subversive in your home country and when the govt or authorities have enough of you and go to arrest you, run to a Western country and claim asylum. And because of our suicidal laws, we can't send you back. So you sit comfortably in our countries, leeching off our welfare system and continue being a troublemaking subversive, knowing full well you can get away with it. They have more freedom to do their criminal activities in our countries than in their own. Some Muslim in Melbourne was quoted saying that to a newspaper not long ago. They laugh at our weakness, and take advantage of it.
I have no pity for them. If they fear the govt in their home countries, it is because they deserve it. Send them back, and cry no tears for creeps who would murder our loved ones without batting an eye. The UK needs to thumb its nose at the Eurabian Union and do what's good for the UK.
Posted by: feralee at August 31, 2005 9:27 PM
I simply can't understand why people want to be part of this good for nothing, bureaucratic, tax-money guzzling monster.
Posted by: Leveller at August 31, 2005 07:40 PM
I simply can't understand why people want to be part of its twin, the United Nothing. Can you?
at August 31, 2005 11:41 PM
"Blair said his government would change the law if necessary in order to deport this filth."
Then he imports Tariq Ramadan to advise him how to deal with it.
The mind boggles!!!!???
Posted by: Terminator at September 1, 2005 1:50 AM
"Blair said his government would change the law if necessary in order to deport this filth."
Then he imports Tariq Ramadan to advise him how to deal with it.
The mind boggles....???!
Posted by: Terminator at September 1, 2005 1:51 AM
We used to have an "Anglosphere"
It was called the Commonwealth.
Sadly our own cousins seem to be of less importance to our leaders than Europe.
Cousins literally, there are few of us without relatives in Oz or Canada. I e-mailed to NZ about an hour ago. The most cheering items here at the moment are the stories from Australia. You have lost the ashes but you have won my admiration.
at September 1, 2005 4:19 AM
Yet again, the EUrabian continent of suicide liberalism is dictating to a member state against the will of the people of that member state.
Bring it on. The more they dictate, the more the British people are being distanced from the naive, socialist gravy train of Europe.
Princess Bliar & Clown Prince Clarke KNOW they have to start deporting these anti human, anti life, paedophile worshipping scumbags in the very near future. They said they would. If they don't they look weak. If they don't because EUrabia says we can't it again underlines what the people are saying ad infinitum in England:
"WHO GOVERNS THE UK?"
If its EUrabia, then why bother with our Westminster Parliament at all? May as well turn the House of Commons into a Muslim Refugee Welcome Centre, & the House of Lords into a Halal butchers.
Posted by: albion at September 1, 2005 4:33 AM
One of these people is wanted in his native Egypt for an alleged crime involving the bombing and murder of a little girl aged 12. Not much sympathy for the victim and her family is there? But that's the liberal elite all over for you. Plenty of crocodile tears for murderous preachers of hate who get others to do their dirty work for them but very little sympathy for those who have to suffer the consequences.
Posted by: londongirl at September 1, 2005 4:38 AM
Amicus:
I have damaged my ribs laughing so hard at your post. May have even punctured a lung.....
Londongirl:
Sickening that we are protecting such people.
England out of the EU now.
Posted by: albion at September 1, 2005 5:33 AM
This ludicrous "return directive" is but one of the policies that the EU has of turning Europe into Eurabia. The other pressing problem for us is the apparent insistence and determination of the Eurocrats and feeble liberal and left-leaning politicians to allow Turkey into the Union.
This train is gathering speed. Blair and his government are also actually determined to allow Turkey in. But this should not surprise us. It's one of Bush's policies; so, as Bush's poodle, he's just following Bush's misguided political direction.
We can all see where Bush's ideas on the Islamic world have, and still are, taking us: To no good place! This policy of bringing Turkey into Europe will also lead to no good place; and will, actually, herald the acceleration of the Islamisation of Europe. That means to say, it will be a nail in Europe's coffin. After this move, it will be curtains for the Europe we have all come to know and love.
To say that we are living through sad times is an understatement indeed; they are, actually, very tragic.
Our leaders' ignorance of history, their childlike optimism, their dedication to liberalism, and their woeful ignorance of Islam and jihad are all too unsettling.
'Tis certainly not bliss to be alive in this dawn!
at September 1, 2005 5:37 AM
A cautionary reason why the United States (and others) must be very careful to sign on international agreements (if any) or International Law that could affect our Constitutional rights. Politicians and judges that sign on or apply such standards and laws should be impeached.
Posted by: epg at September 1, 2005 5:40 AM
I forgot to mention that the EUrabian talks with Turkey with regards to their surrender & Islamification started today.
A nod here, a wink there.....
Please, citizens of France & Holland, insist on a referendum.
Princess Bliar will not under any circumstances allow the English to vote on Turkey's takeover of EUrabia - he knows full well what the verdict of the English people would be.
Posted by: albion at September 1, 2005 6:05 AM
Princess Bliar will not under any circumstances allow the English to vote on Turkey's takeover of EUrabia - he knows full well what the verdict of the English people would be.
Yes, Albion. Too right! Doesn't this fact make a joke of Bush and Blair's talk of bringing democracy to the Middle East when, in actual fact, here at home, ours is sadly lacking?
at September 1, 2005 7:30 AM
Mark:
Too right yourself!
Britains Foreign Office has always been nicknamed "The Camel Corps" - they are pushing very hard for Turkey.
Its the same old blackmail - give in to Islam or else its followers could get very angry & hurt you. Rather than confront Turkey for...oooohhh, now which topic shall I choose? so, so many....ok, I choose Cyprus - how can we have a new EUrabian province in Turkey that refuses to recognise the right to exist of the Greek Cypriots in Cyprus? Shock horror - a Muslim State refusing to recognise that an infidel state exists - Mmmm, I wonder if there are any other countries like this on planet Dhimmi?????
Oh yes, Israel.
But this will be a fudge, just as the British Citizens in Gibralter are waiting for the fudge. You see, the EUrabians cannot play by the rules that they set for themselves. For example, when Spain joined the EU, it should have relinguished all claims & rights to territory under the Governership of any other EU state. It should have relinguished all rights to Gibralter full stop. End of story. No more to be said. Yet we see backdoor deals being done - against the backdrop of a 97% Referendum Poll by the Gibaltarians against being handed to Spain. The talk now is of "dual control". Dual control my ass.
One thing about the Scottish suicide posse & Empire apologists in Downing Street (Number 10 & 11) - they know how to draw a line before they blur it.
As we did our best for France & Holland in WW2 when old school fascism came a calling, I truly hope that the French & Dutch citizens will do to this topic exactly what they did to the EUrabian Constitution - Kill it. Stone dead. Forever -
(of course "forever" in EUrabia means "until we can get the little people to vote in the correct way"...)
Posted by: albion at September 1, 2005 8:24 AM
Mark -
"Our leaders' ignorance of history, their childlike optimism, their dedication to liberalism, and their woeful ignorance of Islam and jihad are all too unsettling."
Unfortunately, this statement applies to both sides of the Atlantic. The Bush policy on Turkey admittance is utterly naive. Our State Department indeed has its own "Camel Corps" of Arabists who are undermining the US as much as the EU is undermining Europe.
Posted by: Jimmy Bones at September 1, 2005 12:51 PM
Mark, Albion, Jimmy Bones
Our governments are underming not just the democratic way but undermining our safety. And when push comes to shove in major civil unrest or war, it will us who will be doing the fighting and the dieing. The big boys meanwhile, will be relaxing in the country on fat pensions that you and I provided.
at September 1, 2005 4:34 PM
DP111:
I am resigned to the fight, & ready.
Evolution, not revolution is something our UK ruling elite have taken for granted for too long.
Their contempt for us is staggering, their lack of public acknowledgement of the real enemy (Islam)is scary - given the facts.
British born Jihadist & Muslim Mass Murderer Khan
tells them exactly why he blew himself & others to pieces in Londonistan - & still they refuse to call a spade a spade.
"I am a soldier, we are at war".
I hear you Khan, & I for one, am ready for the real war.
at September 2, 2005 4:45 AM
Dolphin:
The link you posted showing the occupation of Catholic churches in Brussels was most disturbing. But surely if there were more Catholics using those churches, they would be less easy to occupy?
Posted by: Chatillon at September 2, 2005 4:30 PM
Albion...
Me too.
Should I find myself in mortal danger whilst living my peaceful and law-abiding life in London, I will heed accept the declaration of war against civilians that has declared against me (us) and will govern myself accordingly.
I'm struggling with my own statement, however. Why should I personally be in mortal danger BEFORE I act - when I already KNOW that civilian war has been declared against non-believers? I suppose that this is not a traditional war and it will take a mortal threat against me to shock and awaken me into reality.
Posted by: myiironu at September 3, 2005 8:25 AM
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