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Anti-dhimmitude in Britain. An update on this story. From the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to Kemaste:
British Prime Minister Tony Blair notified Monday that he would not adopt the proposal to change the British Holocaust Memorial Day to a British Genocide Day, which would serve as a memorial to Muslim deaths as well as Holocaust victims.Radical Muslims were uncomfortable with the Holocaust because of the infamous role played by some of their leaders during World War II, said former Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Israel Meir Lau on Monday in response to proposals to do away with Holocaust Memorial Day in Britain because Muslims find it offensive.
"The so called 'religious' leader Haj Amin el Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem, went out of his way to come all the way to Berlin to encourage Hitler to kill Jews. He did everything in his power to help the Nazis in their diabolical plot."
"So I do not buy it when Palestinians argue that they were victims of the Holocaust because it led to the establishment of the state of Israel."
"Before there was ever a state of Israel there was rabid anti-Semitism among radical Muslims."
"I call on Tony Blair, who was the man who is responsible for creating Holocaust Memorial Day back in 2001, not to bow down to pressures made by these radical Muslims," said Lau, himself a survivor of Buchanwald. "He should be faithful to his own convictions."
Posted by Robert at September 12, 2005 8:41 PM
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Bravo!
Only slightly OT
Read "The Haj" by Leon Uris.
Awesome piece of work. Totally captivating. Recommended read. Its a fictional story with a factual backdrop. Goes back to the time Israel was established. And its a fascinating sojourn into the Arab psyche. They're worse than children, I tell you, in their infantile fantasia.
And this scumbag "grand mufti of jerusalem" Husseini apparently even had plans to help the nazis build Dachau style camps in Gaza! These Gaand muftis deserve every bit of roast in hell the devil can think up of...
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at September 12, 2005 9:10 PM
A banner day for reason--Tony nixes "Genocide Day" and Dalton torpedoes sharia law.
Posted by: scaramouoche at September 12, 2005 9:27 PM
Muslims are not normal people. No normal person would object to a day of rememberance for the victims of the holocaust.
This is how a sociopath thinks.
Unless I have knowledge to the contrary, then I will assume that if some-one is a muslim then they are a sociopath.
Posted by: Voltaire at September 12, 2005 10:27 PM
Terminator wrote above:
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'Muslims' should not be 'comfortable' with the Holocaust. Neither should they be comfortable living in infidel countries.
It is the Mohammedan presence in the lands of the infidels that make the unbelievers lifes very insecure, very expensive and very unpleasant.
Whatever it takes to encourage Mohammedan departures from infidel lands, should be our first and foremost concern and policy.
Reverse migration is the most desirable outcome, not caving in to the ever increasing demands of these parasites, who contribute nothing, who openly declare war on our society and are hell-bent to bring us under the sword of Allah.
The more time is wasted, the serious the issue will become.
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I thought it was so good, it was worth repeating.
at September 12, 2005 10:31 PM
"It is the Mohammedan presence in the lands of the infidels that make the unbelievers lifes very insecure, very expensive and very unpleasant."
-- from a posting above
Hmm. Rings a familiar bell, but I can't quite place it. Oh well.
Posted by: Hugh at September 12, 2005 11:16 PM
well if it was a genocide day they were after, surely victims of the armenian genocide would also have to be remembered - i dont think there would be much chance of muslims going for that
lets hope tony blair will remember them (and a few other things as well) before he goes headlong further down the road to getting turkey into the eu
Posted by: freddiefreeloader at September 12, 2005 11:18 PM
But, according to the Times Online article (see http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1775068,00.html ),
"The recommendation, drawn up by four committees including those dealing with imams and mosques, and Islamaphobia and policing, has the backing of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain."
The rabbi's well founded remarks, of course, imply that the secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain and other 'Muslim advisors' are 'radical Muslims'.
Does Blair's rejection of the proposal signal that he agrees?
at September 13, 2005 1:56 AM
Mark "1" point for reason and the British and mark "0" point for the followers of the terrorist Mohammed.
The sooner the followers of Mohammed are put on notice that they are unwanted immigrants (and children of immigrants who crept into the West uninvited), that the UK would be a much better place without them the better.
I totally agree with what Terminator stated, that is:
"It is the Mohammedan presence in the lands of the infidels that make the unbelievers lifes very insecure, very expensive and very unpleasant.
Whatever it takes to encourage Mohammedan departures from infidel lands, should be our first and foremost concern and policy.
Reverse migration is the most desirable outcome, not caving in to the ever increasing demands of these parasites, who contribute nothing, who openly declare war on our society and are hell-bent to bring us under the sword of Allah."
at September 13, 2005 2:36 AM
What was a worry (as someone else said to me) was not the possibility that Holocaust Day might be abandoned, as we did not believe that it was in actual danger. But that a supposedly "moderate" Moslem group should make such a preposterous (his words) suggestion.
Of course, we here know that there may be moderate Moslems but that Islam is not a moderate religion. we just need to get the rest of the country to realise that, then we are making progress.
at September 13, 2005 3:24 AM
The Jerusalem Post writes: "Buchanwald'.
It should be: Buchenwald.
at September 13, 2005 4:23 AM
The Jerusalem Post writes: "Buchanwald'.
It should be: Buchenwald.
at September 13, 2005 4:24 AM
The Jerusalem Post writes: 'Buchanwald'.
It should be: Buchenwald.
at September 13, 2005 4:26 AM
3 X reply ?? I do not know why ! Sorry.
Posted by: alliswell at September 13, 2005 4:55 AM
The visit last year to the Back clinic must have worked for Tony .....has he finally found a backbone and stood up for his convictions ??
Lets wait and see Just what rules of the game he has changed.......and more importantly IMPLEMENTED !!
No doubt they will introduce Islam Day with a view to celebrating the multifaceted wonders Islam has contributed to the UK ...you know Kebab shops,the art of filling out social security forms , Manuals on How to win friends and influence Dhimmis , cultural exchanges with our Radical Immans ,
fifty ways to leave your Homeland etc etc
at September 13, 2005 5:21 AM
The visit last year to the Back clinic must have worked for Tony .....has he finally found a backbone and stood up for his convictions ??
Lets wait and see Just what rules of the game he has changed.......and more importantly IMPLEMENTED !!
No doubt they will introduce Islam Day with a view to celebrating the multifaceted wonders Islam has contributed to the UK ...you know Kebab shops,the art of filling out social security forms , Manuals on How to win friends and influence Dhimmis , cultural exchanges with our Radical Immans ,
fifty ways to leave your Homeland etc etc
at September 13, 2005 5:22 AM
To borrow a phrase: Al hamdu lillah! Allah akbar! :-) To borrow your time for a moment: Don't get too euphoric! Since Blair is the ultimate Dhimmi, he's bound to commit an alternative act of dhimmitude to appease British Muslims. We all know that Muslims belong to the 'BMW club': the club of 'bitchers, moaners, and whiners'!
Posted by: Mark at September 13, 2005 6:08 AM
But, according to the Times Online article (see http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1775068,00.html ),
"The recommendation, drawn up by four committees including those dealing with imams and mosques, and Islamaphobia and policing, has the backing of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain."
The rabbi's well founded remarks, of course, imply that the secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain and other 'Muslim advisors' are 'radical Muslims'.
Does Blair's rejection of the proposal signal that he agrees?
at September 13, 2005 11:30 AM
Terminator wrote above:
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Whatever it takes to encourage Mohammedan departures from infidel lands, should be our first and foremost concern and policy.
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Apparently the muslims left Spain after an Imam declared that Islamic culture was incompatible with Western culture.
This site reported (on the 8th September) that Omar Bakri has made a similar declaration about muslims leaving Britain. He said "I think the Muslim community can no longer live in peace in the U.K. It is better for them to think to leave."
What can we do to make sure that as many 'British' muslims as possible are aware of this statement by Bakri?
And are Bakri's family still here? If so, why?
at September 13, 2005 6:13 PM
The Qu'ran explicitly calls for the mass murder of Jews. It is therefore understandable why Sacranie and his ilk, are going to be uncomfortable attending Holocaust Remembrance day. It is the main reason they came up with this weasel idea of replacing Holocaust Remembrance day.
Hey but I have nothing against days for
1. Remembrance of Armenian genocide
2. Remembrance of Sudanese Christian genocide
3. Remembrance of Hindu Kush genocide
4. Remembrance of the "Jenin genocide that didn't happen" day.
Posted by: DP111 at September 13, 2005 7:20 PM
Terminator
I have maintained for at least two decades that allowing muslims will lead to terrorism and eventually the loss of freedoms that we take for granted. There is a direct link between jihadi terrorism and the number of muslims in a nation.
The malignancy itself defines the remedy, as must be obvious. In the first instance, deporting illegal aliens, particularly muslims, then following it by deporting those who advocate terrorism, will deplete the islamic base in the West to a sufficient degree, that it is unable to facillitate jihadism in the West as easily. Second, it will demoralise the islamic base such that a number of muslims will leave of their own accord, as they see no future for their goals in the West.
Then an insistence that the rules that define a liberal secular democracy have be adhered to. For instance
1. The electrically amplified calls of the mezzuen are an invasion of the public square as well as an affront to other faiths.
2. Women wearing burqas signify the oppression of women, and is deeply offensive to us, as it is signifies an implicit acceptance of slavery as legitimate. Totally unacceptable.
3. Teaching islam in public schools is not acceptable, as the texts violate several cherished values of the West.
There others that one can add to this list
Posted by: DP111 at September 13, 2005 7:39 PM
DP111;
"..rules that define a liberal secular society..."
Yes, I think we need to do more in the courtroom to "protect" our traditions, values, etc.
What use is a lawyer if he/she can't twist an opponents point to support their own, or turn it back on him? Too bad we can't get just ONE liberal-left US Senator to come over from the dark-side. I've heard them work the spin, it's breathtaking, just the sort of "creative reasoning" you need to go up against the Islamic rationale. Plus, they're not hindered by clouding the issue with things like facts and reality. Fight fire with fire, so to speak.
In all seriousness, an argument in a controlled environment like a courtroom may be the only forum where you can get a muslim in a corner and prevent his use of the usual obfuscation, diversion, outright lies, etc. The more I consider it, the more I think that Anti-jihad efforts must be 3 pronged;
I>Military confrontations
a. conventional warfare
b. Irregular warfare
1. active guerilla infidels
2. logistical support of other guerillas
II>Legal confrontations
a. offensive
b. defensive
III>Informational
a. Dissemination of factual information
1. about Islam
a. its actions
b. its objectives
c. what it says
d. what it allows/ demands
2. about the West
b. Propaganda
1. Pro-western "hearts and minds" stuff
a. pro-woman propaganda aimed at driving a wedge between muslim women and islam(women are the key to reform)
b. propaganda aimed at dividing muslims such as increasing sunni/shia frictions
c. psych-warfare for intimidation, confusion, diversion, morale-breaking
at September 14, 2005 8:48 AM
Great news. Blair chose wisely for a change.
Ia, do you need a cry, mate?
Prophet Geoff
Posted by: Geoff at September 14, 2005 12:33 PM
Sanity prevails but for how long?
t-ham:
Anti-jihad efforts must be 3 pronged;
I>Military confrontations
II>Legal confrontations
III>Informational
Add another one under the header >Informational.
We masquerade as Moslems and flood the boards with message of hate against non-muslims. This is Moslem's second favorite pastime posing as a person-from-any-religion-but-muslim moderate and spreading a message of peace on different message boards. First is killing people.
at September 18, 2005 7:30 AM
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