Hmmm. If they recognize Ramada, will the american communist lawyers union demand that crescent moons be removed from outhouses?

Posted by: Gary at September 26, 2005 6:42 PM

Gary

No, it's Islam. Leftist religion-bashing applies only to Judaism and, of course, Christianity.

It is not the first and even not the 25th time CAIR uses the pretext of 'encouraging dialogue' to push for the quicker transformation of the US into an Islamic caliphate. With the dhimmis sitting tight in the SD and Congress, I have serious fears CAIR's dream of 'transforming the White House into the Muslim House' will one day become a reality.

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dolphin, CAGE co-founder.
http://www.acage.org

Posted by: dolphin at September 26, 2005 6:56 PM

"...recognizes the Islamic faith as one of the great religions of the world..."

We recognize that it is a vile and dangerous cult.

" ...the onset of Ramadan and expresses its deepest respect to Muslims in the United States and throughout the world..."

No respect, no recognition!

Arrest them: start with CAIR

Internment, deportations, shut down the mosques!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 26, 2005 7:04 PM

Dhimmitude is created by laying one brick at a time on the backs of the Infidels.

Posted by: John Sobieski at September 26, 2005 7:05 PM

Apparently this is because the Saudis are preparing to recognize Christmas and Hannukah and are already praising observant Christians and Jews living within the kingdom for their great faith...Not.

Posted by: Chatillon at September 26, 2005 7:13 PM

John Sobieski, good one. Mohammedans will undoubtedly try to get America to "recognize", "respect" and "honor" Islam before they give us the choice of convert, pay the jizya, or be killed. Next it will try to get sharia law to be alowed on some "special" cases and eventually make sharia the law of the whole land. Dhimmitude. It's coming.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at September 26, 2005 7:39 PM

islam is a 'big' religion, numbers wise; but a great religion ! I guess not. Not great, not even good;
a curse on the planet, a dead end for humanity, a sorrow, an embarrasment;
an ideology that must be faced, and defeated, extirpated, finished once and for all.

One brick at a time is indeed how we are being buried; will we acquiese for ever ? Will we ever get any leadership from the congress, or will they just add bricks as and when requested by the islamonuts ?

Posted by: dby at September 26, 2005 8:00 PM

I'm sick and tired of this s--t. What's there to even consider? Congress MUST designate CAIR a terrorist organization and deport all of its officers and some of its members. Why is there any dialogue with this cancer from within in the first place?! Islamofascists out, now!

Posted by: US_infidel at September 26, 2005 8:20 PM

When the middle class is driven to rioting in the streets we might see some sign of improvement in our governments. Not the whole middle class, but some, those who are not strong enough to vote out the dhimmi lickspittles but who are totally fed up with the status quo.

The middle class will riot in the streets. There's a limit, and even the suburbanites will reach it.

Posted by: sonofwalker at September 26, 2005 8:39 PM

Infidels have to become one-issue candidates. By that I do not mean you cannot have views, and wish to see them expressed, on taxes and bridge-building, on the usefulness of mass innoculations, or the wastefulness of another Man-on-the-Moon program. No -- I mean that you must let everyone in political life know that no matter how much you may support them on other things, if they show signs of appeasing Islam and inadvertently promoting the Jihad, you will do everything you can to oppose and defeat them, and that on the other hand, a candidate whose views would cause you normally not to support, will have your support, if his misgivings about Islam correspond to yours. It is simply a question of numbers. There needs to be a sufficient number of such Infidels for whom Islam is regarded, rightly, as a threat to their laws and customs, their assumptions and safety, and that of whatever posterity, whatever products planned or careless parenthood, one may leave behind, a posterity that will be forced to endure, because of the ignorance and negligence and stupidity of those who supposedly have been our leaders, even more than we, the menace of Islam. And that posterity deserves a fighting chance, for they did nothing to deserve this.

Posted by: Hugh at September 26, 2005 8:41 PM

I just hope the MCB/MAB in the UK don't hear of this and present a similar petition here. The Blair government would be very likely to agree. How utterly sickening!

Posted by: philiph35 at September 26, 2005 11:07 PM

(CNSNews.com) - An Islamic advocacy group is urging American Muslims "and other people of conscience" to contact their elected representatives and urge them to sign a House resolution recognizing the upcoming fast of Ramadan -- and commending Muslims for their faith.

People of "conscience?" Where are the Muslims of conscience?

Hey pushy,arrogant, disdainful, domineering, deceitful, sneaky Jew-hating, Infidel hating, up-on-your self righteous pedestal Muslims...

COMMENDTHIS...!

Posted by: Kemaste at September 26, 2005 11:21 PM

I just can't for the life of me figure out why Congress or anybody else would give a fig about Ramadan. It's a custom that Muslims follow, it is meaningless to the rest of us, why should we even care, let alone "respect" it? Personally, I think it's a stupid custom. I'm sure many have various opinions on different religious customs out there. That's our right. We don't expect Congress to tell us to respect them, or even to think about them. We don't care. We're too busy with our own religious customs, if we're religious, too busy with our own lives. This is utterly ridiculous to expect a country's government to waste their time with this. What pompous, arrogant, egotistical nonsense.

What next? Will they demand that all restaurants and food stores be shut down during Ramadan, out of, you know, "deepest respect for" (gag!) and to "demonstrate solidarity with" (never!) Muslims?

Posted by: feralee at September 27, 2005 12:13 AM

"the House of Representatives recognizes the Islamic faith as one of the great religions of the world; and in observance of and out of respect for the commencement of Ramadan...the House of Representatives acknowledges the onset of Ramadan and expresses its deepest respect to Muslims in the United States and throughout the world on this significant occasion."

What a bunch of "bull crap". I have not heard such a ridiculous request of the House of Representatives. We all know what a "great religion" Islam is, yes we have seen and heard the destruction Islam is causing all around the globe - Great, I dont think so. Great Evil, YES.
Respect? respect what? the murderous evil ideology called Islam. I dont think so.
What do the Muslims think, that the average American has time for this nonsense? we have better things to do than respect an evil ideology.

Posted by: faqi at September 27, 2005 12:43 AM

Good opportunity to send each rep a copy each of Mr. Spencer`s and Mr. Bostom`s Books.
A handing over ceremony of sorts would garner addtl. publicity.

Posted by: leavingtheleft at September 27, 2005 1:04 AM

feralee,

you are right on the money.

This is all part and parcel of imposing the

'one and only, the true religion'

on us.

Not funny at all, that there are far too many obliging PC-fools out there who fall for it and are unable to see through the BS and the advertising of the cult.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 27, 2005 1:43 AM

feralee,

you are right on the money.

This is all part and parcel of imposing the

'one and only, the true religion'

on us.

Not funny at all, that there are far too many obliging PC-fools out there who fall for it and are unable to see through the BS and the advertising of the cult.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 27, 2005 1:45 AM

Sheikh, yes, not funny at all about so many obliging PC fools who'd gladly want Congress to waste their time with such crap. Islam has offended us greatly, and continues to offend us, yet we run around looking for more ways to show respect to them, & worry about offending them. It's like having a neighbour who continually abuses you and the govt tells you you need to respect them. What should happen is the govt should tell the abusive neighbour to quit their behaviour or get thrown out. It's insane what has happened post 9/11. Like some upside-down world. It wouldn't have ended up this way if not for the Islamo-appeasers. They are so full of hatred for the US and for Jews, they blindly align themselves with their fellow haters, and do whatever they demand. Gruesome twosome of haters.

Posted by: feralee at September 27, 2005 3:11 AM

One should of course ask congress to condemn the practice of Ramadan, since fasting the entire day without water and then stuffing yourself to the brim at night is patently unhealthy :-)

Imli

Posted by: Imli at September 27, 2005 3:29 AM

Imli, I'm sure it is unhealthy. If you're a healthy, growing teenager, it would be unbearable too! My 19 year old son is a Hoover of food, all day long, yet has the build of a 2-by-4. I couldn't imagine telling him he can't eat for 10+ hours!

Muslims like to maintain there's some sort of piety and holiness about this fasting business. Oh, look at us, we fast, therefore we are better than you. LOL! Scoffing food down like pigs before the sun rises, then again when it sets. Get over yourselves!

Posted by: feralee at September 27, 2005 3:38 AM

feralee:

This is not about liberals ./. republicans or left and right, this is an attack on everything we hold dear, and to quote Robert Spencer:

"to destroy the West and bring it forcibly into the Islamic world "

This hits the nail on the head.

We have to get our own fools to wake up, to realize what a threat this bizarre ideology is, much worse than communism, worse than AIDS and Syphilis, and we need nothing more than re-education, a strengthening of our values in the Schools, yes, we have to re-assert ourselves, and to forbid Islamic activities, to arrest those undermining our societies and cultures.

To intern them and deport them, to shut down the mosques, that is the absolute minimum we ask, that should be only the beginning. Lets make it happen!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 27, 2005 3:42 AM

I have made this comment before and at length s will not repeat the detail again now.

But I do wait with some interest to see how the Moslems of Norway will cope with ramadam in a few years time when it falls during the summer, in the land of the midnight sun, when for 2/3 months there will be no hours of darkness in which to drink and gorge. The dry fast will have to last all 28 days.....

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at September 27, 2005 4:04 AM

Sorry folks, but that "New Dark Age" really IS dawning. The West is being Islamized under our very noses, unbeknownst to Mr. Average, who is anyway too busy making a buck or two in order to buy his house and a second car even to care.

When I worked in the Middle East, I was forced to observe Ramadhan insomuch as none of us could eat or drink or smoke during the hours of daylight in front of a Muslim. Such was a punishable offence; and in some cases one would pay with one's job!

When I left the Middle East, I naïvely thought at the time that I had left all that behind. I departed by plane and breathed one big sigh of relief. How wrong could I have been?

Now, I observe these ridiculous and barbaric customs creeping into the West, too, and too rapidly for comfort. If Congress knuckle under and do what they are asked to do by these intolerant, demanding, and shameless people, how long will it be before we Western infidels, here in our homelands, are disallowed from eating, drinking, and smoking in public during the hours of daylight, for to do so will offend the burgeoning numbers of Muslims living amongst us?

These are ominous and dangerous signs and developments. We cannot afford to ignore them, and we cannot afford to appease these bitchers, moaners, and whiners any longer. The time has come to confront them. The time has also come to demand the same from them.

Reciprocity is key; though our politicians appear not to have learnt the meaning of the concept. Why the hell do we allow that book of heathen practice into the West, when the Bible, the holiest book for Christians, is disallowed in Saudi Arabia? Why do we provide these people with halal meat and food, when pork, except for special concessions to Aramco employees (and I believe that not even that's a concession anymore), is disallowed in Saudi Arabia to all expats working there.

Why, too, is it forbidden us Westerners to worship in the Christian way in the 'hallowed' lands of the last prophet of death and doom?

Western politicians need to get a grip! They need to show they have some spunk in them! They need to stiffen their spines, and learn to say how to say NO. A person who cannot say 'no' when the times call for it is nothing other than a wimp! There are many wimps around in politics!

I have been sickened enough by the events that unfold here in the West on almost a daily basis. I pray that I shall not read that Congress has caved in to the demands of the true infidels! For if it does, I, and many others with me, shall surely be lain low!

Posted by: Mark at September 27, 2005 5:32 AM

World authorities should recognize the beginning of Ramadan. The filth, profligacy and obscenity of the religion of Islam tends to be magnified during this holy period. Government has a duty to warn. Moslems are taught if they kill an infidel during Ramadan and they need their strength for such religious devotion, the Moslem may be exempted from the fast. Let's get the U.N. to declare it every year on a timely basis so the people of the world can be warned and can mark the calendar when to be on the lookout for even greater outrages likely to be committed during this period. Announcing when Ramadan is should be praised and not blamed, as no one's life, liberty or property is safe when Ramadan is occurring. Happy Ramadan!

Posted by: David England at September 27, 2005 7:26 AM

".........over my dead body!"

I received my Defeat Jihad bumper sticker and
today I place it on my car!!

Posted by: learjet0450 at September 27, 2005 8:30 AM

"All that evil needs to triumph
is for good to do mothing"
(can't remember the author)

Posted by: learjet0450 at September 27, 2005 8:43 AM

We need a companion resolution that recognizes the ancient religion of Papua New Guinea with its ritualistic cannibalism as another of the world's "Great Faiths". While we are at it, why not one for the great faith of Aztec human sacrifice? Just because Islam is a "religion" doesn't mean that our civilization has to assume it promotes the general welfare. Islam's bloody history is prima facie evidence that it is perhaps the world's greatest wolf in sheep's clothing.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at September 27, 2005 9:16 AM

The only kinds of resolutions and laws that seem to get passed about matters relating to Christianity and Judiasm seem to be opposite in nature -- i.e. removing the Ten Commandments from courthouses, "neutralizing" the names of religious observances so as not to offend others.

About the only sanity I can recall about this, came ironically, from Toronto's former mayor, a Jew and a loose cannon, notorious for faux pas of all sorts, who declared in the face of advice from city bureaucrats, "it's a Christmas tree and lets call it that" with respect to decorations put up in advent of Christmas a few years back.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at September 27, 2005 11:17 AM

I personally believe in recognizing Ramada. In fact this will be a good time to enjoy a barequed rib-fest (pork of course) washed down with good beer. Burp!

Granny Weatherwax:

I remember reading somewhere that the immamns will give some kind of dispensation in case of a northern summer.

Posted by: johnb at September 27, 2005 11:23 AM

This is just a thought...
http://www.religioustolerance.org/growth_isl_chr.htm
Muslims (on average) have three times as many children as the general western population. Politicians, being the creatures they are, might recognise future voters.

Posted by: Teratism at September 27, 2005 12:08 PM

I am about as supportive of this as I am the annual dhimmi dinner at Foggy Bottom. Say it won't be so this year, Condi!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000062.php

Posted by: Witness at September 27, 2005 12:58 PM

This C.A.I.R. sponsored demand for a Congressional Resolution is the pinnacle of superciliousness! Muslims are taught to regard Christian and Jewish holidays with the utmost contempt and are constantly reminded by their demonic clerics not to extend greetings on such holidays as Christmas and Easter. Yet they demand respect and special recognition of Ramadan, a pagan glut fest! What's the point of "fasting" during daylight hours, only to gorge yourself at dark?

Aggressive, pompous, self-righteous pagans (muslims) have no qualms about forcing their barbaric cult on the civilized world; it's up to us to respond with the same contempt they show to the overwhelmingly dominant faith in America, and to all other faiths.

Islam should be illegal in this country, not legitimized or sanctified by Congress. But I fear that our illustrious, self-serving representatives will once again demonstrate their cowardice and selfish ambitions by grovelling to the demands of the terror supporting traitors at C.A.I.R. What other religious group would be imperious enough to demand such an outrageous resolution?!

Posted by: Susanp at September 27, 2005 1:24 PM

Author Samuel Huntington predicts that Islam will overtake Christianity early in the 21st century. By the year 2025, Islam will have 5% more adherents than will Christianity.

From the website Teratism directed us to.

So, Teratism, you same to be on the same wavelength as I am in these matters; so what do you think is the simple solution to this? :-)

This problem could be easily remedied, my friend!

Posted by: Mark at September 27, 2005 1:48 PM

Susanp:

I admire your clarity of thought and your insights. You say the truth with brevity and succinctness. No beating about the bush for you, I see! :-)

You needn't be told that I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Mark at September 27, 2005 1:52 PM

I remember reading somewhere that the immamns will give some kind of dispensation in case of a northern summer.

John, you may well be right. However I first came up with the query when talking to a Moslem colleague who was keeping ramadam during an English summer, when sunrise is about 3.30 am and sunset about 10pm. He said that although the sighting of the new moon was as seen in Arabia, the sunrise and sunset was as experience in the country of residence. Which is viable at our latitude, indeed is favourable in December (sunrise at 7.30am and sunset at 3pm).

If there is a dispensation of hours of daylight when food and drink can be taken, the npresumably a period to fast is set in winter when there is no daylight for some weeks. I think it is mid January when Norwegians celebrate the day the sun returns (for nearly an hour ! ) with a festival with pagan origins.

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at September 27, 2005 2:41 PM

"Islam should be illegal in this country, not legitimized or sanctified by Congress."

Apropos of the above, I came across this on the Web last week. It is interesting, because it shows what Islam really is: Muhammadanism! Interestingly, this is what it always used to be called; but we have legitimized this 'faith' by pleasing them and calling it Islam.

After you read the following, you will ask yourself what is the better, more accurate, name for the so-called 'religion'. Here it is:

The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)

The Invocation of Blessings and Peace upon the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and give him peace.)

Translated by Khalid Williams from ‘Abwab al-Faraj’ by the esteemed Sheikh Muhammad bin Alawi al-Maliki al-Hassani, may Allah forgive and be pleased with him, who died in Makkah in Ramadan, 2004

In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

Among the greatest means of obtaining ease in times of hardship is invocating blessings and peace upon the Prophet of Allah (may Allah bless him and give him peace), which the Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace) himself clarified for us how in a tradition narrated by Ubai bin Ka’ab (may Allah be pleased with him), who said; ‘I said, ‘O Messenger of Allah, I supplicate often, so how much of my supplication should I devote to you?’ He replied, ‘as you desire’. I said, ‘a quarter of it?’ He said ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ I said, ‘half of it?’ He said, ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ I said, ‘two-thirds of it?’ He said again, ‘as you desire, but if you were to increase upon this, it would be better for you.’ Finally I said, ‘and if I dedicate my supplication in its entirety to you?’ He said, ‘then your needs will be satisfied, and your sins forgiven.’

Source: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/salawat.htm

If this 'religion' is not a Muhammadan cult, i.e. Muhammadanism, what is?

Posted by: Mark at September 27, 2005 2:50 PM

recognizing the upcoming fast of Ramadan --
and commending Muslims for their faith.

You mean submitting the constitution and our RIGHTS...

ALL to bend over and Get SCREWED by the Comming Islamic terrorist invasion??

Already congress is turning against the USA

The ACLU is already to begin the TAKEOVER

Wake up before its too late!!!

The ACLU and Congress have already decided who
they will serve

And its not the American people and our constitution

its Islamic terroroists...

Americans This is A CALL to ARMS

Posted by: jingoist at September 27, 2005 7:26 PM

It's not future muslim votes they care about. It's present-day arab campaign money. That's what scares me. The arabs make sure both major parties are well-greased with their filthy oil graft. That's why anyone who dares tell the truth doesn't stand a chance.

Posted by: Infidel33 at September 27, 2005 10:53 PM

Last time I checked the USA still had separation of religion and state. Anyway, Islam is not a religion. It's just a seventh century slogan for violence.

Posted by: Big Mouth at September 28, 2005 3:49 AM

Last time I checked the USA still had separation of religion and state. Anyway, Islam is not a religion. It's just a seventh century slogan for violence.

Posted by: Big Mouth at September 28, 2005 3:50 AM

oh it would be fitting if congress recognizes ramadamadingdong and the next day we have 10 smoldering cities. Paul Williams claims that Al Queda will detonate 10 nuke devices during ramadamadingdong

Posted by: SgtArky at September 29, 2005 7:49 PM

And a day of mourning for all the victims that day and every yearon the start of Ramadan.

Posted by: mark52 at September 29, 2005 11:22 PM