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September 27, 2005

Saudi received organ ahead of others in L.A.?

The Saudis are buying everything these days -- from new organs to Fox News. "Saudi received organ ahead of others in L.A.? Hospital suspends transplants, probes allegation of false records," from WND, with thanks to Kemaste:

One of the top organ transplant hospitals in California has suspended its liver program following allegations a Saudi national improperly received an organ ahead of dozens of other needy American patients.

The Los Angeles Times reports that officials at St. Vincent Medical Center also discovered that, following the transplant, some hospital staff allegedly falsified records of the operation on numerous occasions, ostensibly to shield the process from scrutiny or discovery.

The September 2003 transplant was paid for by the Royal Saudi Embassy, the paper said. The hospital's $339,000 fee covered the cost of the operation and the patient's resultant hospital stay.

That figure, the Times said, was 25-30 percent higher than the customary rates paid by insurance companies and government health care programs. However, the paper also noted patients without insurance – such as many foreign nationals – typically pay a higher rate than the discounted prices negotiated by insurance companies.

The Saudi national, who was not identified, was No. 52 on the regional waiting list, which covered much of southern California. The liver should have gone instead to a patient at UCLA Medical Center.

Posted by Robert at September 27, 2005 6:33 PM
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This queue-jumping by rich Muslims has been going on for a long time, all over the Western world. I heard about it years ago from a doctor who knew a lot about transplants. And what is interesting is that Muslims themselves do not donate organs, or for that matter donate blood while alive. This does not prevent them, however, from expecting to receive blood, and organs, as the need arise. And of course the best of medical treatment. As everyone knows, the Israeli hospitals routinely provide the most advanced medical care, for free, to Arab patients. But at the moment the Arabs --the "Palestinian" Arabs -- are up in arms because they can no longer reach, from Gaza, their Israeli doctors. How dare those Jews cut off our access to the medical care they have been providing to us for years, usually for free, and which we could not possibly have found anywhere in the Arab world (save among the Western doctors hired to treat rich Gulf Arabs right there in their own countries, not in Harley Street or around Avenue Louis Pasteur.) In the same vein, Edward Said's parents moved temporarily from Cairo to Jerusalem, so that his gravid mother could be delivered of him in a better-quality hospital than anything in Cairo, staffed by Jewish doctors. It seems not to have affected his view of things, nor did the excellent care he received for his leukemia from Jewish doctors in New York. The name of the hospital in which he died (in other words, when not his mother but the world could be delivered of him) has never been revealed; I wonder why.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 27, 2005 11:49 PM

And what is interesting is that Muslims themselves do not donate organs, or for that matter donate blood while alive.

Really? I remember a publicity bit with Yasser Arafat donating blood right after 9/11.

Posted by: Viking5 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 5:04 AM

After seeing Arafat slowly die from an "unknown" illness, there should be some concern about the blood he donated.

Has anyone else heard that he went to hell at 75 by way of AIDS?

Just something I heard. Something about him and relations he had with one of his guards.

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 8:30 AM

I think the Saudi's should sue the hospital for overcharging them. Of course any interest that would have accrued on the money should be reimbursed as well.

Posted by: JanuaryMan [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 9:36 AM

DC:

Go to frontpagemag.com's archives for an article posted on Friday, Sept. 23/05 by David Meir-Levi on Arafat the Left-Wing Monster. It's a long, long piece, about 18 pages in all. Among other things, it postulates that the CIA made Israel aware of Arafat's AIDS diagnosis in 2002 when the Israelis were bombarding Arafat's compound in retaliation for Intifada II. The CIA's POV was better to let him die a natural death than a martyr. The article also, near the end, affirms Hugh's contention that the war of extermination against Israel is really only the Lesser Jihad, citing a speech Arafat gave over a cellphone from his bombed out compound in April, 2002, angry that no Arab nations had come to his aid (still all angry at him for his support of Saddam in Gulf War I) because a "Palestinian entity" would serve as the perfect launching pad for the greater jihad.

Re: Hugh's mention of Edward Said, I also highly recommend that bloggers here try to obtain a copy of Justus Reid Weiner's piece published in Commentary some years ago entitled "My Old Jerusalem Home" or something like that. Weiner is a lawyer and he does a masterful job of researching records and establishing facts. In so doing, he absolutely shreds Said's fiction about his ties to Palestine. The house in question was his aunt and uncle's. It was divided into three units, two of which housed foreign embassies, and the third, during the relevant decade, according to records, the exiled Jewish philosopher Martin Buber and the Buber family until Said's aunt had Buber and family evicted so she could move in herself. If the Saids had any claim to dispossession, it was against Egypt for the loss of Ed's father's business interests and not against Israel at all.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 9:45 AM

Addendum:
Viking5 -- you are of course right, and I stand corrected (at the moment, in the stocks here in Salem). Arafat in fact made a great show of giving blood for 9/11 vicitms.

And I was wrong in my posting not only about blood, but I have now discovered, about organ-transplants. I checked with a doctor who in turn consulted a transplant surgeon, who said that data bases on donors were carefully monitored, and if no Muslims had been filling out organ-donatnion cards, and none of their organs were being harvested, that would have come to everyone's attention. He assured me that Muslims as a community would, as a result, not be allowed to participate in such programs if as a group they did not participate.

Now why did I write such a thing? I know that somewhere I had read about Muslim attitudes toward organ-transplants and blood-donations, that the author had said that Muslims should donate organs or blood only to fellow Muslims, and I had, unforgivably, somehow confused that with the idea that Muslims did not donate organs or blood at all? Of course, in the highly-regulated transplant programs, doctors (almost all of whom are non-Muslims) certainly carefully monitor for such things, and would make clear that whatever the beliefs or promptings of Islam, they would not permit organs to be received by the members of any community believed, as a group, not to be contributing to such an organ-program. In what numbers? I don't know.

Obviously just becaue Arafat made a publicity-stunt out of "giving blood" this does not mean as a rule that Muslims donate blood to Infidels -- all sorts of thinigs are done, which violate some parts of Islam that are justified by the need to protect or promote Islam itself (the big loophole in everything).

Let me investigate further, to see what I can find.

In the meantime, I stand shamefaced, in the stocks, wearing a big "Q" which stands for this: question what you write before you write it, and make sure you haven't taken liberties, buster.

Right beside me, incidentally, in the other set of stocks in the village square, is a comely lady named Hestery Prynne. I haven't a clue as to why she is here, or why she is wearing a big "A" that looks just like my "Q."

But she's been giving me come-hither looks all morning, but coming hither is not possible, given that I'm stuck in these stocks.

Still, we would make an attractive couple, she and I, if only we could loosen our respective bonds.

In fact, I have the distinct feeling we are made for each other: Q and A.

One without the other makes no sense.

It has a certain ring.

In any case, I will find out more -- I know now that there are large operations for donors, presumably Muslim, in Karachi, which I suspect caters, with the harvested organs, to visiting rich Arabs who also find Pakistan a nice place for bustard-hunting. My inquiry is this: do Muslims routinely allow organs from Muslims to be donated, and then harvested, for the benefit not of fellow Muslims, but for that larger and stranger concept, one's fellow men. And when I have more to report on this, I will do so at JW.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 9:51 AM

Re: Yasser's blood donation... ...let's hope that if it made it passed the screening process (I don't know how rigorous the screening was in 2001), that it went to someone deserving of it.

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 10:17 AM

Thanks, Waterdragon.

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 28, 2005 2:27 PM

While I imagine there are some sort of prohibitions, either legal, or "moral", preventing muslims from donating organs to infidels, apparently there are no problems with taking infidel organs for a muslim.

Jihad, one organ at a time?

I'm not surprised I guess, Islam taking what it wants from the West, but not willing to "give" back.

Posted by: t-ham [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2005 7:14 AM

"Islam taking what it wants from the West, but not willing to "give" back"
Tee hee hee, hahahahhaaha heheheeee hoohohoohhoo
My dear t-ham, you should pay a visit immediately to a psychologist (like most of westerners do) to help you in your permanent mental defects. You, retard Jews, are the ones taking and not giving. Do not you know the humor about you being the bloodsucking psycho gays and lesbians? You are doomed to be vampires, sucking the resources of the whole world to your so-called fucking dreamland. Oh dears! You really made me laugh saying that "the Israeli hospitals routinely provide the most advanced medical care, FOR FREE, to Arab patients." Is it before killing their families, destroying their homes and invading their lands or after that?!!!!!
Sincerely, my dear bloodsuckers, go fuck yourselves (in a straight way and don't you become gays and lesbians) and cut this bullshit nonsense at once.

Oh, Adolph Hitler my love!! Where have you gone?!!? I bet you couldn't get to heaven because you didn't finish these spoiled Jewish vampires, who think they are the masters of the world and everyone else are their PETS and SLAVES. You were really a very clever man foretelling that those dirty Jews will be the source of vice and disasters for the whole world. God help your successors(if any!)to accomplish the mission you started, amen!!!!!!!!

Let me remind you of a very simple fact, you are now in the ones who give but your retard vagrant monkey ancestors were the one who took from the Islamic nations in their golden times. Especially you Jewish vampires who were fucked in every country and no one were willing to endure your filthiness except Islamic nations who considered you as Dhimmis and respected your freedom .Oh vampires! You should learn from your intimate dogs and pets how to become grateful, you unthankful scumbags.

No Regards, you bunch of rotten freaks
AbD JoD

Posted by: A VERY PROUD Muslim [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2005 4:03 PM

Proud: "You, retard Jews, are the ones taking and not giving. Do not you know the humor about you being the bloodsucking psycho gays and lesbians? You are doomed to be vampires, sucking the resources of the whole world to your so-called fucking dreamland."

"Oh, Adolph Hitler my love!! Where have you gone?!!? I bet you couldn't get to heaven because you didn't finish these spoiled Jewish vampires, who think they are the masters of the world and everyone else are their PETS and SLAVES."

Need I add anything? Well, not really. I think this all speaks for itself.

So: thanks for posting! You know, you're really very helpful to the site! Now, could you post your thoughts on what Islamic Law says should be done with gay and lesbian people if they refuse to stop being gay? What would Mohammed do to homosexuals?

But could you put it up on one of the front post lists, where everyone can see it, especially visitors? I think everyone in America wants to see what islam would do with such 'obstinates'.

I look forward to seeing your next posting.

Lots. =)

Geoff

Posted by: Geoff [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 30, 2005 10:05 AM

A VERY PROUD Muslim,
Do you really believe that crap about Jews being sons of monkeys and pigs? Ho boy, we have a winner.

Posted by: Carolyn2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 30, 2005 12:15 PM

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