"Before Islam people lived in untold misery."

As if they live in a paradise NOW. . .how deluded can you get?

Posted by: Suzan at October 2, 2005 3:15 PM

Religion of hatred, bigotry, intolerance and fanaticism - poison the children's minds and it is no wonder bitter bigots sprout and blow themselves up wherever they may roam.

Posted by: Zico at October 2, 2005 3:53 PM

Here are some gems from the classroom of Pakistani school children:

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When Mohammad Qasim stepped out to participate in the declamation contest held to celebrate Pakistan's Independence Day, the topic he was to speak on was: 'Why Islam and Pakistan are integral to each other'. Instead, this Class XI student of Lahore's Government Central Model School lashed out against the Hindus, giving vent to inexplicable anger and hatred. This was particularly shocking because the Hindu community, constituting an infinitesimal percentage of Pakistan's population, hasn't been an aspect of Qasim's life. Asked to explain his outpouring in the contest, the 14-year-old boy said, "We hate Hindus because they are Hindustanis and the number one enemies of both Islam and Pakistan.

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These textbooks came under the scanner following a story in the Los Angeles Times highlighting the tilt against non-Muslims. "Thousands of Pakistani children learn from history books each year that Jews are tight-fisted moneylenders and Christians are vengeful conquerors," the newspaper said.

Posted by: Zico at October 2, 2005 3:56 PM

Good na-paki's know about it that hindus and sikhs are their mortal enemies. In Indian schoolbooks, it is the opposite i.e. Mughal(moslem) kings are shown as broad-minded and tolerant while nothing about the violence and killings of hindus and sikhs during their rule. Seems like life was better then than the swinging 60's or the present day. God bless Vint Cerf (internet inventor).

Posted by: desi_singh at October 2, 2005 4:03 PM

V.S. Naipaul writes of my favorite Moslem, a man living in Pakistan:

"His world had shrunk to a hut in a crumbling village. He was prepared for even that to crumble away further, once the faith was served."

Among the Believers, Penguin: p. 89.

I've quoted that many times, and every time I do it seems more insightful on Naipaul's part.

I also quote this from Dostoyevski's novel The House of the Dead:

There is the self-regard that excites a man and makes him demand the floor repeatedly, so that he awaits impatiently the next such evening, when he will be able to refute his antagonists. In other words, for many, these evenings, these speeches, these debates are about as serious an occupation as are cards, chess, and so forth, which also undeniably divert a man and which play in the same manner on the same whims and passions. I think that very many deceived and confused themselves at this game in Petrashevsky's house, mistaking the game of something that was serious.

I was poking fun at myself last time I included that but I was also writing about the Left dhimmi fascists who thunder on about the Other and the evils of the Modernist world, ranting like fire and brimstone preachers in the 19th century. Today it's sociology students at community colleges who protest the evils of capitalism and globalism, never having been further than their own vision of a new-found world-view.

These fools laugh and joke with terrorists, keen and weep with fascists, "identify" with killers, dress up like Lawrence of Arabia, and give money to the Presbyterian Church. And outside the State Department it's no better.

Our intelligentsia, our leaders, they must all be on drugs. But no, that would make this sensible, understandable, and it isn't. Not like that. Romaniticising peasants, idealizing savages, imitating primitives, that stems from a different poisonous root.

I become more convinced as time goes on that half of the West at least is sick of Modernity, longing for a simpler age of brutality and chaos, the Glorious 13th Century. I think many in the West secretly long for its destruction and a return to irrationality and savage immediacy. There's only so much MTV one can stand. Why else this philobarbarism at the highest levels of our culture and societies?

The Left fascists love to hear themselves speechify, and they will love as much sitting in the dirt hating themselves into further decay.

I think many of our own are like stray dogs who'll follow the leader, even if it's only to the dump to scrounge. I think many of our self-inflated Left moralists would love to wallow in the garbage of Pakistani Islam. They might think of it as a game right now but being in it I think they'd take to it fully.

Those who wish to "dialogue" with Islam are wasting their time. Fascism is an irrationality, and the only way to comprhend irrationality is to feel it. For the rest of us it's a matter of will and struggle to overcome irrationality by whatever effective means we can muster, and let the others yakk and fume in the dirt.

There's only one real response to irrationalist fascism. It's not more dialogue.

Posted by: sonofwalker at October 2, 2005 4:30 PM

All you have to do to learn the truth is exchange the words Hindu's for Muslim every time they write in their books. If they are saying that Hindu's looted with both hands you can be assured that it was Muslims who did the looting.

This is what they'll do to every culture they are able to dominate. They will attempt to erase it and rewrite the history. Funny how, gee, Muslims are always the good guys and everyone else is a looting, raping marauder.

"Life was an unenlightened miserable hell on earth until Muslims came and brought light upon the community" ....or was that because non Muslim homes were set aflame?

Posted by: Kemaste at October 2, 2005 4:45 PM

SonofWalker

Excellent post

Mark:
If you see this. I have posted the points you made about Turkey's entry to the EU in Fjordman's blog. They are so well put that they can do with a fresh airing. I hope you do not mind.

Posted by: DP111 at October 2, 2005 4:53 PM

Sonofwalker:
Damn good job. I wish you were a university professor.
Now, figure out a way to get this info onto the front page of newspapers.

Posted by: el greco at October 2, 2005 4:59 PM

This article couldn't have come sooner. I am having a huge argument with a couple of "Holocaust-denying Islamic Diplomat" types at Wikipedia on the Rajput Article, since they wish to deny history and claim that Rajputs converted out of a choice.

Anyways, I can always use some help in setting these Taliban freaks right. If anyone is interested in putting their two cents in just come to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rajput

I hope someone comes to my aid. I told these guys to read jihadwatch and then perhaps they might see the light, but of course Allah has blinded them.

Cheers

Posted by: Gorkhali at October 2, 2005 6:28 PM

All religions are Islam's enemy, especially if they dare to expose the lies of Islam and its' false prophet.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at October 2, 2005 9:20 PM

Sonofwalker wrote:

I become more convinced as time goes on that half of the West at least is sick of Modernity, longing for a simpler age of brutality and chaos, the Glorious 13th Century. I think many in the West secretly long for its destruction and a return to irrationality and savage immediacy.

Yes, many in the West secretly long for this -- but only so long as it is not a "Judaeo-Christian" past.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper at October 2, 2005 9:24 PM

Hindu hate is essential for the Pakistan otherwise there is no justification for her existence.

Posted by: iqbal at October 2, 2005 9:45 PM

I don't suppose anyone teaches these little muslim mobots that before Islam came calling, and after tens of millions of innocent, indigenous Hindus were slaughtered by muslim butchers, Pakistan was part of India. Do they know that their ancestors were Hindus? How do you erase your bloodline?

How could the same people be so different? It just amazes me. Islam's ability to transform previously civilized people into savages is uncanny but I understand it only takes two or three generations. The revisionist history they concoct is criminal; no wonder Pakistanis are among the most maniacal, rabid muslims. I guess if I grew up believing the lies they indoctrinate their children with, I would be a raving lunatic too.

Posted by: Susanp at October 3, 2005 12:04 AM

haha one of these days i gotta get a copy of these books.

* The Muslims of Pakistan provided all facilities to the Hindus and the Sikhs who left for India.

This is one big joke. My grandfather was kicked out of Sindh in September 1947. He lost almost all of his family to the Muslim bastards. One of his sisters was kidnapped and forcibly converted to Islam. There only 2-3 million Hindus in Puke-e-stan down from 14 million during partition. India has 150 million (not counting 20 million Bangladeshi illegals) muslims while Pakis have only 140 muslims.

@Gorkhali:

Dont I dont give a damn for wikipedia. I was an admin from 2003. I was recently kicked out of wikipedia by the powerful Muslim lobby within wikipedia. Writing articles for wikipedia isnt worth it. Some Muslim is always gonna come and edit it. Anyways if u want any help ask my friend at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AMbroodEY

He might b able to help... just post a comment on his talk page.

Posted by: Vikrant_Camberleykar at October 3, 2005 1:28 AM

This is what they'll do to every culture they are able to dominate. They will attempt to erase it and rewrite the history. Funny how, gee, Muslims are always the good guys and everyone else is a looting, raping marauder.

How true. And unfortunately, many in the West help them with this distorted reality. Look at Hollywood - movies & programs that involve Muslims. If they don't make the Muslim the good guy, they apologize for not doing so, or change the bad guy to some other ethnic group, like South Africans or Russians, with no apologetics.

Our own educators whitewash Islamic history to our kids. It's so disheartening when the Muslim lie is perpetuated by our own. Traitors.

Posted by: feralee at October 3, 2005 1:57 AM

I especially liked: The Muslims of Pakistan provided all facilities to the Hindus and the Sikhs who left for India.

Kind of like Hitler's final solution, provided all facilities to the Hindus and Sikhs, yes the Muslims sure did: Rape, Humiliation, Torture, publice executions. A True religion of Peace.

However the comment: Asked to explain his outpouring in the contest, the 14-year-old boy said, "We hate Hindus because they are Hindustanis and the number one enemies of both Islam and Pakistan."

Now thats respect, SWEET, we Hindus finally beat the Jews and Christains at being the #1 ENEMIES(in a thick Pakistani accent) of both Islam and Pakistan. We are over achievers, "high five" Vikrant. LOL

@Vikrant:

Thank you Vikrant for the advice. Jai Hind.

Posted by: Gorkhali at October 3, 2005 3:15 AM

They have nothing in their own lives to live for. The day they are born they are doomed. Hatred for India (hindu) has to be kept alive cos that`s the only way the powers that be can remain in power.

It would be most beneficial to promote Baluchi and Pathan independence. They are not exactly happy with the punjabi ruling elite.

The Pakistan-afghan border is also an outstanding issue as Pakis are occuppying Afghan land - the treaty having expired in `92.

And there`s this:
Pakistani-born army vet named Tariq Khan of Fairfax, Virginia, who was arrested on George Mason University, supposedly for handing out anti-army leaflets (or so the Left claims).
http://www.moonbatcentral.org/wordpress/

Posted by: leavingtheleft at October 3, 2005 7:25 AM

No one's life, liberty or property is safe when the Koran is being chanted. The war crimes committed by Moslems in India are virtually unknown in the West and according to Shrinadan Vyas in India also. Indeed, the mountains, the Hindu "Kush," literally mean the slaughtered Hindus.

Only Satan would make a religion where his adherents celebrate the slaughter of innocent men, women and children in his worship. Shrinandan Vyas claims even Indians are ignorant of their true history with the Moslems.

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_kush.html

Dear readers, find ten people you know who are ignorant of Islam. Educate them to the danger they face. Combat Islam now.

Posted by: David England at October 3, 2005 7:33 AM

Pakistaqn is not the only danger. There`s also Bangla Desh:

It is a political irony of post-partition India that none of its Government ever took the problem of large scale of Muslims infiltration from erstwhile East Pakistan, which is now Bangladesh to bordering Indian states particularly Assam, seriously. Nehru-Liyaqat pact (1950), Indira-Mujib Accord (1971) and much publicised Assam Accord (1985) too failed to stop this 'silent invasion'. In the absence of any definite policy of the Government, the infiltration gradually assumed an alarming proportion and the aliens became politically so strong that no political party in this state is in a position to form the government without their support.

http://saag.org/papers16/paper1557.html

Posted by: leavingtheleft at October 3, 2005 7:49 AM