title should read:

"10,000 strong hoarde of tribal barbarian fascist vermin descends upon America..."

Posted by: jsla at October 23, 2005 1:11 PM

Alhamdullillah!

Thanks to the friendly ties between GW and the prince Abdullah these students will not be deprived of the benefits of a higher education!

Of course they will pay much needed fees to the Universities -where funding nearly dried up lately-and, who knows, if we allow them to make da'wa and educate the female co-students about Islam, it won't be long before we'll see many more!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 23, 2005 1:22 PM

Where is the MSM in all of this?!

Jesus, Mary & Joseph save us from ourselves.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 2:01 PM

"Of course they will pay much needed fees to the Universities -where funding nearly dried up lately..."
-- posted by sheik yer'mami

Sheik, I mean, yeah, ullah-illahahaha-allah-subdi-allah-insiduous-ooh-ooh-illah-akbar (pbuh) to what you state, but who in the heck is gonna pick up the $500 million security budget to keep track of these Wahabbi?!

I think we should levy a Leftist Person Tax so that they can pick up the tab on this squalid mess.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 2:08 PM

I have had "minor irregularities" in my US visa also. It does not have to be a big issue.

Posted by: TooBad at October 23, 2005 2:08 PM

racism.......tut tut

Posted by: ia786 at October 23, 2005 2:20 PM

I'm speechless - just unbelievable. Has someone just declared the "War on Terror" over and won? I hope someone raises this issue the next time border security with Canada is mentioned.

I guess Abdullah's hand holding session with G.W. worked.

Posted by: johnb at October 23, 2005 2:21 PM

"I have never been hassled, save for an increase in security checks to which a country is entitled to when protecting its citizens."
-- the good Wahabbi Moslem Mohammad al Mateeri on the USA

Hey, thanks a lot, Mohammad!

We like to think that -- every single time one of you crazy nutty Moslems shows up on our shores, and every single time a American inexplicably converts to your "religion" -- we're a little bit less free as a people and more burdened as taxpayers.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 2:31 PM

"racism.......tut tut"
-- posted by ia786

Racism is supremacisim by race. Islam is supremacisim by self-congratulation and relentless attack.

Thus, for the above statement to stand you must of course publicly renounce the Koran, the Hadis, the Sirat, and all Islamic Law as world history's most ridiculous hateful murderous larcenous and perverted form of animalism ever visited upon full-bred humans.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 3:30 PM

Each Saudi student will bring with him his large Saudi stipend, his taste for fast cars, his need to hire people to help with his homework and write his papers (a good many people make livings writing those papers, right up to the so-called doctoral level), and to buy the favors of impressionable Infidel girls who, as the imams counsel, can be regarded as temporary wives for the sake of sex, and jettisoned promptly at the end of the "student's" stay.

The mere presence of each student is disruptive, disruptive to morals, disruptive to classes inhibited, when relevant, the matter of Islam. Such students will require extra paperwork, extra monitoring by the local police. They may participate in student political organizations, pushing the Saudi line.

In other words, they are a headache and an expense. We do not need them. But they need our educational system. So let there be a special government-to-government surcharge, paid by the Saudi government directly to our government (which, in turn, may find intelligent ways to send some of that money to the colleges involved and to local police and other security agencies).

One may suggest possibly $100,000 per student, as a modest beginning. That would pay the salary and benefits (including contribution to a pension p[lan) for two police officers -- hardly an exorbitant sum.

At 10,000 students, $100,000 security surcharge per student, that amounts to $1 billion.

No, I was wrong. The damage they do to student morale, especially of all those who do their own work, the harm to the local female population, the way in which they manage to debauch so many in so many different ways -- I should have factored in that cost as well.

Let's make it $1 million per student. That comes to $10 billion a year -- considering that we have been Saudi Arabia's sole protector, and remain the sole protector of the very rich House of Al-Saud that takes in close to $200 billion a year for doing absolutely nothing, this is a very reasonable price.

While we may disagree on the amount of the surcharge, some thinking $1 million per student is too little (think of all the lawyers, police, and judges involved everytime a Saudi leaves, taking the children of his American wife with him, or beats or rapes or throws down the stairs his Indonesian or Thai or Filipino maid, or runs someone over in his Ferrari Testarossa after a night of fun), and some just a bit on the high side -- but who, what American in his right mind, knowing what intellectual and moral havoc the Saudis and other Arabs cause wherever they are students, would disagree with the general idea?

None.

Posted by: Hugh at October 23, 2005 4:09 PM

"...and to buy the favors of impressionable Infidel girls who, as the imams counsel, can be regarded as temporary wives for the sake of sex, and jettisoned promptly at the end of the "student's" stay."
-- posted by Hugh Fitzgerald

The sucker white girl thing could be played the other way.

The FBI should set up a White Quim Brigade. They would demand certain things of their hot Moslem lovers prior to paradise, in the form of audio-recorded statements of sedition before entry, and the on to a federal Sedition trial to deal with these fine young Moslem gentlemen in court for what they actually are (when you're not self-deluding).

This would be a Cultural Diversity celebration that I could not only support but would probably make me misty.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 4:17 PM

Some of the logic here is that allowing in these 10,000 Saudi students will Americanize them, Americanize the future leaders of Saudi Arabia. That they will go home pro-American

I think they'll party a lot here. Go to mosque from time to time. Some will do reconnaissance work for the Jihad.

Posted by: dennisw at October 23, 2005 4:18 PM

I recently heard a speech given by Karen Hughes, after returning from her diasterous Middle Eastern tour. This program has probably been in the works for awhile, but Mrs. Hughes mentioned new student exchange programs in her talking points. This influx will be interesting to watch. I hope someone will keep track of the real costs too, and not just the cash registers ringing at the busars' offices at the universities. How many Saudi students will be bringing their indispensable slaves from back home, making the USA a defacto slave state. How many men will bring wives who will need police and medical services due to domestic abuse? How many students will bring their children, whose public school education will be paid for by U.S. taxpayers? How many more prayer rooms will be demanded of universities, in the libraries and student unions? And, how many Saudi students will be arrested for drunkeness, illegal drug use and traffic accidents? Finally, how many will be arrested by the FBI for plots and activities involving terrorism? Still, the universities will whine for more well-paying Gulf Arab students and Mrs. Hughes will be happy to do her part to increase the supply part of the demand. Beam me up, Scottie.....

Posted by: maryrose at October 23, 2005 4:28 PM

Your math is all wrong -- The Saudis cost us more than money -- but let's just limit it to that.

If only 20 or 30 of these putrid flunkeys is later found to be involved in another 9/11 -- Let's just assume that the next Saudi Wahhabi attack will be exactly as successful as 9/11 -- no more, no less -- We incurred costs well in excess of $1 Trillion dollars for that dastardly act -- and I think the costs, direct and indirect probably exceed $3 trillion -- Here's the run-down:

Nearly the entire cost of homeland security is squarely a result of 9/11:

$50,000,000,000/anum since 9/11 == $250 Billion

Direct aid to NYC in the aftermath:

$200 Billion

Cost of Iraq/Afghanistan wars:

$500 Billion -- no end in site...

Costs of tax breaks to keep the economy going:

$1 Trillion increase to national debt

$1 Trillion lost on stock market in direct aftermath of 9/11
(I know I lost a bundle...)

Anyway -- I think the costs are actually incalculable to America for continuing to allow the Saudis to exist... The total estimates for their oil reserves are about $12 Trillion dollars -- I am certain before that black poision is pumped from their verminous nation's soil we will have spent well in excess of $12 trillion for the honor of having them in the world.

If they succeed with the same success they have enjoyed so far in continuing to spread the disease of virulent Islam, the costs to us will be so catastrophic that we will not be able to pay the bill -- In short, if they succeed -- we will cease to be!

Posted by: jsla at October 23, 2005 5:01 PM

How about one million barrels of oil per student...

Posted by: Kemaste at October 23, 2005 8:11 PM

Racism? So Ia is against Wahhabism, naughty, naughty Wahhabism...but not wanting Saudis to come study in the US is racism.

Funnily, we only ever have Ia's word that he's a Sunni anyway.

Prophet Geoff
Beer Be Upon Me

Posted by: Geoff at October 23, 2005 8:18 PM

Ia... how is it 'racism'? Don't you know that Arabs are Caucasians, just like Mohammed?

Is it 'racism' for Muslims to hate Jews and call for their destruction?

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10 THOUSAND more Saudis welcomed into America as "students"... thank you, GWB.

Hey Gary, how will you blame THIS on the liberals?

Posted by: kj at October 23, 2005 8:33 PM

[The follow taunts are meant for commenters only and not the staff of Jihad Watch who have done a commendable job pointing out--let's just say--"Dhimmitude in high places."]

BTW.... I STILL can't find a conservative/christian/flat-earther to answer this charge:

BUSH IS HANDING YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO 'FAITH-BASED' MUSLIM 'CHARITIES' FOR DAWA AND JIHAD.

Gary, Shaughn, Kepha, waterdragon, carolyn, catherine, Cornelius... anyone? Can't anyone here stand up for the Vacation King? Fearless Leader is completely (well, not quite. Still I wouldn't plan on investing in Israel anytime soon) controlled by the Saudis, and his followers refuse to see. Come on, people! Aren't there any of the "Al-Qaeda For Kerry" crowd that can excuse this?

And, don't forget THESE:

1. 04-01 Apologized to Chicoms when they shot down our spyplane.

2. 08-01 Ignored PDB "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In US".

3. 09-11-01 Read to children instead of sending fighter jets to prevent second WTC and Pentagon attack.

4. 09-12-01 Let a planeload of Bin Laden's relatives and countrymen fly away without being questioned.

5. 09-01 Claimed that we would get Bin Laden during photo op with 120-year-old fireman on WTC wreckage.

6. 09-01 Held Itfar Feasts during Ramadan "fasting month" for Saudi/Arab/Muslim diplomats while the Towers were still burning.

7. 10-01 Let a Muslim preacher speak first during the "Day of Prayer" for 9-11 victims.

8. 11-01 Sent a tiny force into Afghanistan that let Bin Laden slip away.

9. 2003 Ignored Bin Laden in favor of getting Saddam, who was no threat to America...resulting in 2000 dead GIs and thousands severely wounded.

10. 2003 Agreed to move all American military bases out of Saudi Arabia... further proof that they were there only to protect them from Saddam.

11. 2005 Handed Saudi a clean bill on their slave trade.

12. 2005 Traipsed around ranch in full view of television cameras hand-in-hand with the King of Saudi Arabia. AND KISSED THE BASTARD ON HIS FACE. Twice.

13. 2005 Fought to have Saudi admitted to the WTO.

I can only imagine your frothing reactions if Gore, Clinton, Kerry, or Dean had done any of these.

I seem to remember a certain segment of the population seething at the "damage done to America's international reputation" by a certain presidential dalliance with a young intern... and I also disctinctly remember that only FOUR nations voiced their displeasure: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. What a coincidence.

fanorollins@yahoo.com

Posted by: kj at October 23, 2005 8:59 PM

Admitting Saudi students into American universities: 1 million dollars per student.

Admitting that Islam is the problem: Priceless.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper at October 23, 2005 10:00 PM

"Hey Gary, how will you blame THIS on the liberals?"

The Bush admin has been selling conservatives down the river since coming to power. And everyone, cons and libs both, are suffering for it. He is a disgrace.

Posted by: spect8or at October 24, 2005 12:54 AM

Quit bad-mouthing poor George W!!

He went to Yale and Harvard, so we know that he's a certifiable genius. Another clue is that he's a fine public speaker.

Posted by: Shaughn at October 24, 2005 7:31 AM

kj, you missed the thread on the Blowback from Clinton's war in Bosnia:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008644.php#comments

And another of Clinton's Errors:

http://prisonplanet.com/clinton_white_house_axed_terror_fund_probe.html

And let's not forget Jimmy:

Jimmy Carter’s Trail of Disaster
Christopher Ruddy

With Carter on the loose, the American public needs to watch out.

It seems that almost wherever he goes and whatever positions he pushes, Jimmy Carter leaves a wake of devastation and disaster.

Carter, we should note, has been cozying up to North Korea for years. He helped the U.S. and the communist country come to agreement during the Clinton years to defuse a tense situation over North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.

Under the wacko deal Carter arranged, the U.S. would stop complaining about Korea's nuclear weapons program as long as the U.S. gave aid to North Korea and helped the communists build more modern nuclear reactors.

The U.S. was well on the path to doing this when the new Bush administration sounded the alarm and immediately stopped the cockamamy plan dead in its tracks.

North Korea was not cooperating with the U.S. to stop its weapons program, but we should continue helping them to build nuclear reactors. Make sense?

Of course not.

But that's Jimmy Carter for you.

It's also Jimmy Carter the hypocrite. Carter has always claimed to be the champion of human rights worldwide.

Yet North Korea is one of the most, if not the most, repressive regimes on the planet.

The Stalinist nation is headed by a young madman named Kim Jong-il. Kim likes to watch American movies like "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and then act out his fantasies on his own citizenry. Millions of North Koreans are starving at any given time.

Does Carter have much to say about this?

Of course not. North Korea is an enemy of the U.S., so Carter goes easy on them. When he met Kim, Carter didn't criticize him – he kissed him!

But there is nothing new here.

The media would have us forget Jimmy Carter's presidential record.

But I won't.

Remember Carter's human rights program, where he demanded the Shah of Iran step down and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini?

No matter that Khomeini was a madman. Carter had the U.S. Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders – about 150 of them – to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him.

The Shah's military listened to Carter. All of them were murdered in one of the Ayatollah's first acts.

By allowing the Shah to fall, Carter created one of the most militant anti-American dictatorships ever.

Soon the new Iranian government was ransacking our embassy and held hostage its staff for over a year. Only President Reagan's election gave Iran the impetus to release the hostages.

I believe Carter's decision to have the Shah fall is arguably the most egregious U.S. foreign policy mistake of the last 50 years. [Former President Bush's decision to allow Saddam Hussein to stay in power is a close second.]

With the Shah gone, the whole region was destabilized. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan; no doubt a direct link to the rise of the Taliban can be traced to this invasion. Iraq also took advantage of the Shah's departure to invade Iran. A long war followed that helped make Saddam's Iraq a great Middle Eastern power.

And decades after Carter's ignominious act, Iran is still bent on destroying America. President Bush named it one of the three nations in the "axis of evil." Iran is developing both nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver these weapons to its enemies.

We can thank Jimmy Carter for all of this.

Since Carter left the presidency, he has had little to say about the human rights abuses in Iran. Why should he? Iran opposes the U.S.

Instead, he has focused his attention on Israel, America's lone democratic ally in the Mideast. Recently, Carter suggested that the U.S. should cut off aid to Israel, so angry was he after Israel sought to defend itself in the wake of suicide bombings.

Fair enough. But what has Carter said about Arab or Muslim countries that have had long records of human rights abuse – Syria or Libya or Iran or Iraq?

Not much. One reason may be money. As NewsMax's Dave Eberhart reported recently, Carter and his Carter Center foundation are recipients of millions of dollars of Arab money. (See: Carter's Arab Funding May Color Israel Stance.)

So I give Carter his due. At least he is not a hypocrite in one sense. He is good to the dictators and butchers who give him money.

I'll give JFK some credit:

http://www.afghanland.com/history/kingandjfk.html

Too bad he took us into Vietname tho.

Posted by: Gary at October 24, 2005 7:42 AM

Geoff:

ia is not a Sunni, he's a Sufi. He's also proud to be able to call the UK his home. His postings can be irritating to say the least when it comes to acknowledging that the Islamists find direct inspiration in holy texts and shows some blindness, as above, in not seeing that, as a class, young males from Saudi Arabia are highly suspect as potential jihaddists, but he has certainly voiced his unequivocal objection to violence committed in the name of Allah.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 24, 2005 11:37 AM

"Gary, Shaughn, Kepha, waterdragon, carolyn, catherine, Cornelius... anyone? Can't anyone here stand up for the Vacation King?"
-- posted by KJ

I'll pass.

Never liked him or his old man. George H. was a buzz kill on the rebirth of capitalism and individualism spawned by Reagan, the first push back to stop the awful spread started by the reprehensible FDR.

George W is every bit as much a fake conservative as his old man. To wit, his administration's profligate spending and lack of fiscal accountability.

One strike.

George W is also an elitist. To wit, his treacherous refusal to make good his oath and enforce our immigration laws.

Two strikes.

On September 12, George W blew a clear opportunity re-set the terms of public discourse and move hard to fix our scabrous Moslem problem. Indeed, since then he's only picked at our Moslem scabs in order to spread it more quickly, like an STD.

Three strikes, he's out.

We need a conservative, a real leader. But are any on our benighted horizon?

Posted by: Shaughn at October 24, 2005 12:22 PM

Do we know what universities and in what numbers the student jihadists will be attending?

They had a lot of them in Denver many years ago. I heard they were sent to the midwestern areas in large numbers. I learned from friends that professors looked the other way as they cheated and one professor at Denver University was "questioned" by administration when he flunked a Saudi.

Then, no one took them as threats, they partied every night and didn't seem interested in gaining an education.

I think we can expect further antisemitic incidents on campuses, and their intelligence gathering will be sure to bear some very rotten fruit.

Posted by: Claire at October 24, 2005 3:35 PM

Water:

"he has certainly voiced his unequivocal objection to violence committed in the name of Allah."

But he does support the killing of American soldiers by any means and for any "crime" imaginable, including relieving oneself on the street. You know, where the women-folk might see it.

He's a nutbar.

I, meanwhile, am:

Prophet Geoff

Posted by: Geoff at October 25, 2005 11:24 AM