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More on the British headlong rush into dhimmitude and war against pigs: "Piggy banks 'offend UK Muslims,'" from AAP, with thanks to Susan:
British banks are banning piggy banks because they may offend some Muslims.Halifax and NatWest banks have led the move to scrap the time-honoured symbol of saving from being given to children or used in their advertising, the Daily Express/Daily Star group reports here....
Salim Mulla, secretary of the Lancashire Council of Mosques, backed the bank move.
"This is a sensitive issue and I think the banks are simply being courteous to their customers," he said.
However, the move brought accusations of political correctness gone mad from critics.
"The next thing we will be banning Christmas trees and cribs and the logical result of that process is a bland uniformity," the Dean of Blackburn, Reverend Christopher Armstrong, said.
"We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them."
Khalid Mahmoud, the Labour MP for a Birmingham seat and one of four Muslim MPs in Britain, also criticised the piggy-bank ban.
"We live in a multicultural society and the traditions and symbols of one community should not be obliterated just to accommodate another," Mr Mahmoud said.
"I doubt many Muslims would be seriously offended by piggy banks."
Well, I hope not. But banned they are nevertheless: this must have been done to please someone.
Posted by Robert at October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
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THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NUTS!!!! -----And that is all I have to say.
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at October 24, 2005 12:26 PM
"We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them."
-- the Reverend Christopher Armstrong, Dean of Blackburn
We're not fearful of our differences with Moslems, we're joyous about them. What we're afraid of is Islam. For my part, mark me down as an Islamophobe.
Another cliche I find harmful is the hackneyed "we must approach one another with mutual respect and understanding."
No, we must approach Islam with unqualified and total disrepect based on our straightforward and accurate understanding of it.
Posted by: Shaughn at October 24, 2005 12:28 PM
Actually I was thinking that a bank shaped like Mohammed would be more appropriate. It would be called the jizya bank for the dhimmis that are suckered in by this PC garbage.
Posted by: johnb at October 24, 2005 12:50 PM
Khalid Mahmoud is the charmer whose idea of living in a multicultural society includes boycotting Holocaust Remembrance Day; he also clearly indicated that Jewish lives should not be mourned though it was acceptable for Moslems to mourn victims of other backgrounds - not that any do or would. I think he is the most vile of all those who jumped on the anti-Holocaust Remembrance bandwagon though he got less bad press than, say, "Sir" Iqbal Sacranie.
Posted by: philiph35 at October 24, 2005 12:58 PM
As a member of a majority in my own culture, a civilization built with the blood and treasure of my own ancestors, I am profoundly offended by the presence of any ideology that promotes the destruction of our way of life and the murder of our sons, daughters, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, nephews, neices, cousins, neighbors, friends, and fellow citizens. How many more innocents must die before we wake up to the fact that we are at war with a people who desire our utter destruction? We did not invite this war. We have been invaded by a hostile horde of murdering savages. This is real folks. This is not an exercise.
Those who surrender, like the dimwits who so readily abandon the artifacts of our culture like piggybanks, shall either die or be enslaved. Those who do not surrender shall either die in glory or savour the victory in which our ancestors have themselves reveled.
The enemy desires total war. Then total war they shall have.
Posted by: Hulegu Khan at October 24, 2005 1:05 PM
For those who can, how about walking into the Halifax and NatWest banks and closing your accounts?
I've got to believe that the working non-muslim Brits have to have more Lbs than those of the parasitic muslims.
Money talks.
Posted by: 3812Michelle at October 24, 2005 1:07 PM
The Brits may all want to rush out and kill themselves en masse.
You see, according to the Muslims' religion, the Brits are "INFIDELS." We don't want to further enflame the Muslim consitituency, with Brits actually LIVING in the British Isles while there are Muslims there, do we? Good heavens, no!!!
The Muslims will all be very happy when the Brits finally make all their proper burial arrangements and proceed lemming style into the North Sea.
And leave behind the former nation of Great Britain a stronghold of al-lah's.
Posted by: pythagoras at October 24, 2005 1:36 PM
"We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them."
-- the Reverend Christopher Armstrong, Dean of Blackburn.
And there in lies the problem with the complete fraud that is multiculteralism . ---If we are all to celebrate our differences, than why are we asked to hide, express,share, or dispose of them??
Posted by: Mackie at October 24, 2005 2:53 PM
O my dear, what next, Hyacinth Bucket (that's Boo-kay') may have been offended by Onslow because one sees just to much of him, but what next, no more reruns because his bacon booty and beer are offensive to some muslims?
It is really no joke once one thinks through to the logical extreme and what could result, as in Indonesia when offended Muslims seething with anger broke into anothers property and slaughtered the hogs upon which the property owner depended upon to earn a living.
Posted by: Lisa at October 24, 2005 3:16 PM
But fat people offend me! People who talk with a mouth full of food offend me.. Arrogant Muslims with a superiority complex really offend me damnit!@! Can we please GET RID OF THEM TOO??
Jews don't eat pork either but you don't hear them going nuts over piggy banks.I couldn't care less about piggy banks. And believe me, this isn't an issue about piggy banks. It's an issue of how much can we make them do for us. How much can we change their lives to ACCOMODATE US! All this capitulating behaviour is exactly the wrong approach.
The UK, if it had any balls left would say: "O you don't like the sight of piggy banks? I suggest you don't look at them. Get the hell out, don't let the door hit you on the way out. If all of the sudden you can tolerate the existence of pigy banks go ahead and hang around but I'm not getting rid of my piggy bank.
If they were smart they would, every last non-Muslim, go out and purchase a piggy bank. Put them in their logos and shop signs and home addresses.
Keep the F*%#k away you bloody bastards!
Posted by: Kemaste at October 24, 2005 3:37 PM
I'm going to find banks that are not appeasing muslims and then will close my long held accounts with NatWest, if that is, this is not a blanket ban on pigs throughout the financial sector. I shall make it clear why I'm doing it.
To all Brits on this site, make your opinion known to the banks concerned.
Kemaste posted; "O you don't like the sight of piggy banks? I suggest you don't look at them. Get the hell out, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I presume the door you mean is the one that exits from Heathrow. I'm all for that.
Muslims knew perfectly well before they came here, that Britain is a Western Christian country. If they do not like it, then Heathrow's doors are big enough to accomodate them all. If that was an ultimatum given, I'm cnfident that virtually all muslims will not only convert to Christianity but there will be a shortage of bacon.
at October 24, 2005 4:06 PM
Bring back the pigs, smart, pinky creatures that they are. Pigs as lawn ornaments, pigs on towels, pigs on flags, pigs on posters, and MORE piggy banks, on public display. How about a some pig festivals all around the UK? The pig can become what the Muslims don't want, a simply understood symbol of resistance against their efforts to control British culture.
Posted by: maryrose at October 24, 2005 4:07 PM
Maryrose that's a BRILLIANT IDEA.
What date shall we make the pig festival? I think that we should make this an international day of the pig.
Posted by: Voltaire at October 24, 2005 4:28 PM
How about making the pig festival for today, the 25th October, so that we've got a whole year to prepare for it properly next year?
Posted by: Voltaire at October 24, 2005 4:42 PM
But if people think that they can make more money from accommodating to muslims then they will.
And as muslims outbreed us, then more and more businesses will kowtow to them.
Posted by: Voltaire at October 24, 2005 4:52 PM
Voltaire posted : And as muslims outbreed us, then more and more businesses will kowtow to them.
True. And there is no way we can beat them in a "breeding race". Besides all that will happen, is the impoverishment of the country and the land. One just has to go any muslim country to see the effects of overpopultion. I pity muslim women, treated more as battery hens then humans. Separation is the only answer.
Voltaire - long time no hear from you.
Posted by: DP111 at October 24, 2005 5:10 PM
walk in and close my account? i wish - i owe the bastards thousands
Posted by: freddiefreeloader at October 24, 2005 5:53 PM
walk in and close my account? i wish - i owe the bastards thousands
Posted by: freddiefreeloader at October 24, 2005 5:54 PM
Maryrose
Great idea. Who is going to be the patron saint? And what are we going to have for grub? Ham sandwiches may be a trifle indelicate in the circumstances.
Posted by: DP111 at October 24, 2005 5:56 PM
Wait-
Muslims make up 3% of the British population.
Yet banks are BANNING piggy banks?
Isn't the more logical option just not to offer them to your Muslim customers?
Just like you wouldn't give a "Black Angus Steakhouse" gift certificate to a Hindu customer.
Why the overreaction here? It doesn't make sense.
Posted by: treehugger at October 24, 2005 5:58 PM
It's hard to imagine that such a positive force in an American enterprize could be an insult to Muslims, and maybe someday the name of this business may have to be vanished in the name of multiculteralism.
Read the story about a hard working woman who was known as the first lady of the PIGGLY WIGGLY MARKETS.
http://www.pigpower.com/first.htm
God Bless her!
Posted by: Mackie at October 24, 2005 6:00 PM
Beatles Song Banned
Have you seen the little piggies...
at October 24, 2005 6:26 PM
No chance of a re-run of Pinky & Perky then?
How the hell did they get away with that? Pinky and perky? Of course I never noticed at the time, though I wondered why my mother (for it was 'Watch with Mother') was grinning from ear to ear.
Those were the days of censorship, when people slipped things in unnoticed - ooops - the heyday of the double entendre. 'Round the Horn', Donald McGill and his seaside postcards - before my time but now retro-chic. Yet some of the best of British humour was born out of suppression.
And now we have a new censorship in the name of political correctness. But let's hope that the double entendre, now de trop where sex is concerned, will rear its pretty head (oops) and undermine Islam from below. ('Oooh, Matron, I was once a weak man.' 'Once a week's enough for any man.')
Posted by: Interested at October 24, 2005 8:10 PM
Oh my!my!! what is going to happen to Ms.Piggy of the Muppets? Maybe we could send her into exile to some place where there are no Islamic parasites.
Posted by: faqi at October 24, 2005 8:15 PM
In Communist countries, it was the custom for True Believers not to accept tips from those they served, and often a tip would be indignantly returned to the capitalist traveller who innocently had left it for a waiter or waitress.
Among Muslims, interest is strictly forbidden. While of course it would be impolite to offer piggy banks to Muslim customers or would-be customers, it is also terrible to offend Muslims, and simultaneously to dangerously tempt them, by offering them interest on their savings (or even some checking) accounts. It is like the whisperings of Shaytan -- whisper, whisper -- that Muslims are always warned to be on guard against.
So banks in the Western world should no longer offer piggy banks to Muslim customers but continue to offer them to non-Muslims. Similarly, and in the same spirit, Infidel-owned banks should be sure not to pay any interest on the accounts of Muslims, lest they, tempted, do not do the right thing and promptly return it to the bank. They would not charge interest, nor will they, in good conscience, accept it. Don't tempt them. Non-Muslims can, if you wish, in order to prevent the banks from profiting, simply share in the interest payments that would otherwise have gone to Muslim customers.
And everyone should be entirely satisfied with this arrangement.
I certainly am.
Posted by: Hugh at October 24, 2005 9:05 PM
"the double entendre, now de trop..."
-- from a posting above
If in a few days (and St. Cecilia's Day is fast approaching), Cecilia, when the archives have had a chance to have their own past catch up with them, you google "ceci n'est pas une pipe," and "Jihad Watch" and "Posted by Hugh," you will discover that not everyone finds either the double entendre of the garden-variety type ("Good in a bed, and even better up against a wall") or, if everyone minds his P and her Q (wife-of-bathly, peri-bathously), the not-impossible Triple Entente, entirely de trop.
Posted by: Hugh at October 24, 2005 9:12 PM
To whom do we complain about this,this assault on our culture are the banks not owned by the British?Can't somsome come up with a piggy airfreshner? or sell piggybank for kids for Christmas presents at schools? Where will it end I suppose we will get either a one humped or two humped camelbanks next.But camels stink I hate stinky camels.They also spit. Really pigs are so much better.
Posted by: mark52 at October 24, 2005 9:41 PM
Idiots! We in the west are cutting our own throats, while the jihadis are planning to use our food supply to kill us.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173318,00.html
This pathological need to be nice will be our undoing.
at October 24, 2005 10:04 PM
What about the Chinese, will they still be allowed their "Year of the Pig"? (A *whole year* - that's gotta be more offensive than a mere piggy bank.)
Posted by: spect8or at October 24, 2005 10:19 PM
Hugh, Interest may be forbidden, but reality has precedence. Muslim banks do charge interest,they either front load it on a loan (illegal in the U.S. as it means you can't pay off the loan early and save unearned interest) or they call it Profit Rate or Return on lending or some such euphemism.
Posted by: Nariz at October 24, 2005 10:24 PM
Galloway's world is beginning to close in on him.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article322108.ece
Posted by: Cornelius at October 24, 2005 10:58 PM
Mackie quotes Armstrong: "We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them."
And I agree. So, why not leave the damn piggy banks alone? I am so disgusted with this continual appeasement.
I, too, wish I had an account at NatWest so I could close it in disgust. But when I spent my summer at King's College many years ago, I opened my account at Lloyd's. Very nice folks. Has Lloyd's adopted this dhimmi Pig Policy? Have they been bought out or merged with NatWest?
Anyway, I think Voltaire has a good idea. We must take this matter in hand as individuals. We must good-naturedly elevate and praise and edify the pig. Every chance we get. Buy pig trinkets. Give them as gifts. When enough people do this, big business advertisers will jump at the chance to capture the "trend" and its evident goodwill. But even if business ignores this, we have the satisfaction of making our "underground" statements. Subversive tolerance right in the heart of the multiculti system. Explosive open-mindedness. Radical non-accommodation.
I bought a Pig Hat. It's one of those "gimme" type caps with a picture of a pig embroidered on the front along with the name of some "farm and feed" store. I keep it in the car, and only wear it to the supermarket where the muslims shop. I hope I don't offend any Jews, but If I do I consider that collateral damage.
Everyone here has noticed, and some have commented on, islam's complete lack of humor. There is no joy in islam. This is a huge weakness. HUGE. INSURMOUNTABLE. It is there to exploit by the individual, the group, the rich, and the poor. It takes NOTHING to use humor to EXPOSE the intolerance of islam. They are so picky and sensitive and trite and trivial, that they make themselves juicy targets of outrageously funny jokes and caricatures. (I still like the idea of the Koran Toss. It's like pitching horseshoes, but the target is made of porcelain.)
And by ridiculing their intolerance we show them that we are not afraid. We can laugh in their faces. That is a strength that they cannot copy. They cannot even try. They don't even understand.
So, let's celebrate the differences. Make fun of a jihadist TODAY! Let's have a Pig Parade!
P.S. And, secretly, we can cut a cross in the tips of our bullets and smear them with bacon grease. Good for the vampires that have sworn to drain the blood from your neck. Viva la revolucion!
Posted by: texan at October 25, 2005 12:44 AM
"Everyone here has noticed, and some have commented on, islam's complete lack of humor. There is no joy in islam. This is a huge weakness. HUGE. INSURMOUNTABLE."
Why do you think they're so (excuse me) Pissed off?
Think you'll ever see a woman in a burqa wear fake buck teeth and sit on a whoppee cushion at a birthday party? Or see a Muslim man put on those funny Grocho Marx nose and glasses gag? Hey, offer them some of that gum that turns your mouth black after you start to chew it -- I'd laugh my ass off !
Hey, instead of clowns popping out of little cars at the circus, how bout a bunch of Saudis? Let's keep the big red shoes though...Honk!
Posted by: Kemaste at October 25, 2005 1:42 AM
Kemaste: The big red shoes. LOL, ROFL.
Those go with the baggy yellow pants, right?
Can you imagine them all trying to pull their knives while crammed in that little car?
Posted by: texan at October 25, 2005 1:47 AM
What makes a muslim laugh? Has anyone tried tickling? It always makes me laugh. Giggle actually. Of course, thats whats wrong, muslims dont giggle. Did you know that if you can get a muslim giggling, all thoughts of jihad disappear.
Some people laugh when they fight, but no one ever giggles. If we can get muslims giggling over pigs, we have won the battle. The only question is how to make a muslim giggle. I'm not sure that just anyone should try tickling a muslim. That could be tricky business, so it should be left to tickle experts. But if you see a muslim who looks available for tickling, dont hesitate, just go right over there and start tickling him. Give him the old 'koochi-koochi-coo', as you tickle his ribs, while reaching for his armpits. If he doesn't start giggling right away...run...
at October 25, 2005 3:17 AM
What next? Will they soon be banning wine and spirits and Christmas and bacon and non-halal meatstuffs? Oh, and while we dhimmi Brits are at it, why don't we ban the pig farmers themselves? That would surely solve the problem for the intolerant Muslims living in this land of Kufar.
Posted by: Mark at October 25, 2005 7:44 AM
And that's something for British pig farmers to consider: if they find toy pigs offensive, then wouldn't they find REAL pigs even more so?
Will one day real live pig farming be banned?
Posted by: Voltaire
at October 25, 2005 8:27 AM
"The animal I really dig
Above all others is the pig.
Pigs are noble. Pigs are clever,
Pigs are courteous. However,
Now and then, to break this rule,
One meets a pig who is a fool."
From Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes.
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at October 25, 2005 10:07 AM
Nariz: "Hugh, Interest may be forbidden, but reality has precedence. Muslim banks do charge interest,they either front load it on a loan (illegal in the U.S. as it means you can't pay off the loan early and save unearned interest) or they call it Profit Rate or Return on lending or some such euphemism."
Even in medieval Christendom, when the prohibition against usury was taken seriously, there were a variety of fees and penalties to side-step the ban on charging interest.
Posted by: Cthulhu at October 25, 2005 10:07 AM
walk in and close my account? i wish - i owe the bastards thousands
Posted by: freddiefreeloader at October 24, 2005 05:54 PM
If you can transfer your business to another lending institution, you have more consumer power than you may realize. The bank is making money off of you. If enough small accountholders desert in protest, you will send a message, believe me.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at October 25, 2005 12:46 PM
I found this very un-Islamic website
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Shores/7484/quote/q-misc1.htm
Posted by: Timbo at October 26, 2005 10:35 PM
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