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October 24, 2005

Jihadists threaten to kill Coptic Pope

In revenge for the video shown in the Coptic church. Apparently a stabbed nun and three deaths aren't enough. "Muslim radicals threaten to kill Pope Shenouda III," from the FreeCopts blogspot, with thanks to Susan:

EL FAGR Egyptian newspaper published threats made by Muslims radicals against the Pope of Alexandria. According to the newspaper, Muslim radicals publicly announced their threats through small mosques in the outskirts of the city of Alexandria and regarded the bloodshed of H.H. Pope Shenouda III as Halal (permissible) in revenge for what they considered an insult to Islam's prophet....

On the other hand, the "Mother of All Radicals" or the so called "Muslim Brotherhood" group has been giving out fliers inciting the Muslims to revenge the honor of their prophet.

You can see the flyer and the newspaper article at the Free Copts site.

Posted by Robert at October 24, 2005 12:28 PM
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You can dress them up in their stained night shirts, but you can't take em anywhere, these IslamoNazis.

Posted by: DCWatson [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 2:41 PM

I hope the American consulate in Egypt is at Mubaraks door protesting in no uncertain terms about what is going on against the worlds first Christians(the Coptics) and demanding that he take action to stop this immediatly.

The US funds the Egyptian Government handsomely every year to the tune of over 1 billion dollars in development money alone. That is 70percent more than it gives to Israel for development money.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 2:46 PM

These idiots don't even know why they are rioting; the mob mentality of Islam runs on auto pilot. Tell a few of them that somebody "blasphemed the prophet" and watch the ummah go stark, raving berserk.

It's really a shame that these tribal neanderthals cannot channel the energy they use screaming, waving their fists, and generally behaving like crazed animals, to engage in a few constructive, self-improvement projects. It is interesting that their prayer routine is so demanding that it precludes steady employment, but they can skip prayers to participate in violent protests precipitated by specious rumors. One of the biggest problems in the backwards Islamic world is a lack of motivation, ambition, and self-control.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 3:03 PM

Isn't it against the law to threaten murder in these savage lands?

This latest Egyptian death threat would be a felony here in the States under what they call "terroristic threat" statutes.

Are Moslem holy men and activists above the law in Dar al Islam? Is terror ok in Dar al Islam?

Whoops, I forgot that Islam *is* the law in Dar al Islam. That's what makes it Islamic in the first place.

Posted by: Shaughn [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 3:09 PM

"... the mob mentality of Islam runs on auto pilot ... screaming, waving their fists, and generally behaving like crazed animals..."
-- posted by Susanp

It's what Hindu analysts of Islam call the "religious riot" phenomenon. Religious riot is a part of Islam's arsenal, along with humiliation, seizure of property, threats, beatings, expulsion, kidnapping, torture, murder, and mass murder.

Anybody remember the video of the Grand Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral, when the crazed Persian Shiites passed his cadaver around in a screaming frenzy of grief and hate? Most amazing thing I ever saw.

Posted by: Shaughn [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 3:18 PM

Everything insults the "Prophet." The penalty is death. Why don't we invite 10,000 of the most devout adherents of this death cult to our universities? Ha-ha. Just joking.

WHAT?!

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 4:16 PM

Shaughn, I remember that video of the Ayatollah Khomeini. I laughed too, when his body almost fell from the truck that they were trying to put him in.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 4:38 PM

Can anyone point to resources where one can encourage such organizations like the Catholic Church and the US Govt. to interact and speak up?

Why hasn't The Pope and Pres. Bush said anything about this?

Thanks,
Joe

Posted by: Joe [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 4:45 PM

The first Pope of Alexandria, St. Mark, the evangelist, was martyred by being dragged on the streets of Alexandria… Several of his successors followed suit, losing their lives in this great city of the world that gave humanity so much in science, art, architecture, theology, and philosophy. Now days, much like the rest of Egypt, it is a hotbed for Islamic fanaticism that continuously invents any pretext to attack the local infidels… forming mobs after prayer on the behest of their satanic Lord in the shape of the local preacher, taking to the streets to cause mayhem, violently attacking Christians, killing, burning, looting, raping, and using force to compel any infidel to say the two Islamic confessions.

The honor of the prophet, are they protecting! What honor is there in him when their own Islamic sources clearly demonstrate that he was a loathsome creature of evil which is devoid of any honor or virtue? He is a merciless ruthless killer, a megalomaniac that broke every single commandment including, honor thy father and mother by declaring their hellish eternal abode. Yes he broke every commandment… worshiping a false God, Allahu Ar-rahman, the moon God, honoring a craven image, the black stone, lying, stealing, bearing false witness (against his enemies, detractors, and the conveniently weak and wealthy), coveting other men’s wives (raping his victims women and taking his adopted son’s wife), swearing in vain and breaking his oath, and breaking the Sabbath by honoring Friday. By any objective standard, this was one of the worst people that the earth was accursed with bearing. He was born to bring suffering on countless people throughout the ages.

The Coptic pope is now under a death sentence and there is nothing that can be done. The fanatics can easily murder him. If the Roman Pope barely survived assassination by a Muslim with all his security, what can be done to protect the Coptic pope with the meager resources of the Copts?

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 4:47 PM

I you want to do somthing to help:

Two Egyptian newspapers; namely Al Osboa and Al Maydan had published reports inciting Muslims against the Copts and the Coptic church when they claimed that the play insulted Islam.

Al Osboa newspaper is known for its anti-Christian and anti-Semitic propaganda, it's editor in chief Mustafa Bakry and in issue number 265 here: called suicide bombers "the soldiers of Allah" and called Jews "Descendants of apes and pigs", he also threatened that there are over 300 million suicide bombers awaiting to blow themselves up, not only that but he also called for the declaration of Jihad

This newspaper is given out for free in Arabic stores in New York and New Jersey, yet the FBI seem to not pay attention to the content of this publication. So please call the FBI and alert them about it, and also call the companies and businesses that advertise in it and ask them to withdraw their ads supporting such racist and terrorism supporting newspaper

The person in charge of the newspaper in the USA is
Mr. Waheed Zoghby
Tel: 347- 312 -4088

List of companies advertising and supporting the newspaper

A & G Shipping Internationsl
Telephone: 718- 728- 1444
Mobile 917- 817- 9613
e-mail: aandgshipping@aol.com
12-11 29th street, Astoria, NY 11102
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Empire Dental Care
Tel: 973 -465- 7737
119-137 Clifford St, Newark NJ 070105
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StarFone communications1877 782 7412
http://www.starfone.net/
Phone: 1-562-980-9922
Fax: 1-562-437-7361

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The Law firm of Harmon, Linder and Rogowsky
office: 212 732 3665 ext. 274
cell phone 201 892 4747
42 Broadway , suit 1227, New York , NY 1004
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Eastern American Mortgage company
Tel: 201 842 8420
Cell phone : 201- 486- 4914
Address: 533 Ridge Rd, Lyndhurst, NJ 07071
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Junior Brokerage Inc.
Tel: 718 567 7700
Fax: 718 833 6744
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Noble Phrmacy
201- 604 -5812
Fax: 201 604 5815
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Okelly International Realty Co.
Tel: 718- 745- 1100
Fax: 718- 745- 1849
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Abdel Maksoud Pharmacy
Tel: 718 297 4424
Fax: 718 526 6104
Tel: 718 428 8200
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Queen Tours & Travel
Tel: 201 420 6646

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 5:03 PM

It is interesting that their prayer routine is so demanding that it precludes steady employment, but they can skip prayers to participate in violent protests precipitated by specious rumors.

Nice one, Susan. Spot on.

Posted by: Interested [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 6:03 PM

EL FAGR Egyptian newspaper published threats made by Muslims radicals against the Pope of Alexandria.

Want this to stop? Then the "radicals" should "mysteriously" disappear. After all this is War

My "hat goes off" to the soldiers who burned the four terrorists bodies in Afhganistan. Cremation is a forbidden in Islam > fight fire with fire (no pun intended). Match their savagery with savagery and see what happens!! A brilliant move!

Posted by: learjet0450 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 9:14 PM

Are there any of these papers sold or given away in Canada ? I would like to help as well.Or can they be seen on the internet for Canadians?

Posted by: mark52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 9:17 PM

Mark52:

I imagine though I cannot be sure that these papers are also found in Canada, London, and anywhere a substantial Arab community is present. The reason that they are given away for free is the advertisement profit. At any rate, a simple email to some of the advertisers would be a good help.


customerservice@starfone.net
aandgshipping@aol.com

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 9:55 PM

Joe...

You are looking in the wrong direction if you want the Catholic Church to do anything.

Besides the fact that there are many within the Vatican that would support the unifying of these two large religions. I encourage you to research that issue on your own....you will be shocked.

But the most interesting point is that Catholic Social Services is the largest organization bringing fundamental muslims into Western countries, and yes, that includes America. I don't know why, I have not figured that out. But I see the paperwork monthly. Obviously, a agenda bigger than you and me.

I am still looking forward to someone/someday producing the numbers of muslims CSS is bringing into the US in entirety.

Oh, almost forgot, they will not endorse or sponsor Copts into any Western countries. That is a "State Department Issue pertaining to religious persecution".

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 24, 2005 10:48 PM

Empire Dental Care
Tel: 973 -465- 7737
119-137 Clifford St, Newark NJ 070105

Hey, is this where those two knuckleheads from Hamas work?

Posted by: Kemaste [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 1:06 AM

Nobody is helping the Copts including the Coptic Church which is not in a position to help anyone including itself. I am involved in a very small way in helping some Copts come to America and those here on temporary visas to stay. All I can really do for those who by an extreme miracle win the annual visa lottery, is by writing the required affidavit of support on their behalf. If I am ever in a position to help them again, it would be using my knowledge of the language and country. Unfortunately, those people lucky enough to arrive here, but they happened to be without family or relatives established in America, have to be like horses born standing up, paying their way and doing everything for themselves despite their ignorance of American life.

The Muslim arrivals though are assisted by both infidel organizations and Muslim ones which help them with housing, employment, food and clothing donations, legal assistance, transportation, basically the works. A Muslim need not feel alone when a Muslim or a Mosque is near by. In fact, infidel organizations, even the Christian ones, employ many Muslims who being Muslim, help only their kind. However, a Copt has to rely on himself to support and provide for his family without outside assistance, often enduring hellish conditions when they first arrive, settling in crowded shared arrangements in the slums of cities, subsisting on menial jobs, even if the person was a physician or an Engineer back home.

The Copts whose contributions helped take Egypt out of the dark ages: working side by side with the British colonial administration, and through their genius and entrepreneurial spirit built up the Egyptian economy which was non-existent under Ottoman administration, only to see it confiscated and destroyed by Nasser and his fanatical ilk. It was their great misfortune to live on top of the epicenter of two of the most destructive movements, semi-secular Arab nationalism and the revival of militant political Islam… Being neither Arab nor Muslim, they were seen by the protagonists of both movements as natural obstacles to their fulfillment… obstacles, which they gradually and decisively chipped away.

Unfortunately, the Coptic church in America has not the adequate resources, both human and financial, to cope with the needs of the arrivals. Singular uncoordinated efforts offer the only valuable assistance to the arrivals. Despite that, the transformation in a single generation is nothing short of remarkable. American Copts are paving their way in America by making their contributions in the sciences, academia, medicine, the law, and every field of endeavor, much like the pioneering generations of immigrants that made America the success it is. Frankly, nothing builds character as much as adversity, but since we are so very generous to Muslims, should we at least give the Copts a fair shake!

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 3:43 AM

The phone number listed above as Empire Dental comes back to "Free Copts".

Posted by: jhl952 [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 9:25 AM

Frankly, nothing builds character as much as adversity, but since we are so very generous to Muslims, should we at least give the Copts a fair shake!


Posted by: have_mercy at October 25, 2005 03:43 AM

It absolutely astounds and confounds me as to why the powers that control immigration and asylum would prefer muslim immigrants to Copts, or why they would WANT muslims at all!! Why would anyone with half a brain deliberately import more seething, festering, third-world barbarians to further endanger this country?! Why??????

Sometimes we ponder an issue until our brains hurt, only to become more confused and frustrated. This is such an issue. I can think of three possible explanations:
1. There really is a diabolical conspiracy at the highest levels of our government to turn America into a replicate of the third world.

2. There really is a diabolical conspiracy to import millions more muslims into America to breed like rats and eventually outnumber non-muslims, an encore of the European debacle.

3. There are naive, ignorant idiots who believe that exposure to Western culture will neutralize muslim hostility to the West, although this fallacy has been empirically refuted.
These are tenuous theories but I could not come up with anything better. So I give up.

If we had any voice in the matter, Copts would be the immigrants, not muslims. But alas, there appears to be some mysterious muslim quota to be met. Muslims are apparently the most coveted of all immigrants; not by the American people but by those in control of immigration. Complaining to Congress does no good; complaining to Washington in general does no good. Our elected officials, once elected, do as they damn well please.

We are warned daily about the threats we face from crazed muslims, Islamofascists, and nobody knows exactly how many of these demons actually exist. Our profligate government squanders billions on "homeland security", but refuses to protect our borders and continues to usher in muslim immigrants by the tens of thousands. I think there is definitely a suicidal trend afoot.

Another warning about the internet---next week the U.N. plans to demand control of the Internet. Congress can stop it, but unless unundated with outrage and protests by the American people, it probably will not. If left up to Bush, it's a done deal.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 25, 2005 10:50 PM