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The Washington Post (thanks to P.G.) awakens to something we have covered here for months: the personal risk that Dutch public figures take if they say something that offends the warriors of jihad.
LEIDEN, Netherlands -- As Prof. Afshin Ellian arrived at Leiden University law school one day recently, two bodyguards hustled him through the entrance and past the electronically locked doors leading to his office. For the rest of the day, the men stood sentry outside those doors, scanning the hallways for any sign of the people who want him dead.Ellian is one of a soaring number of Dutch academics, lawmakers and other public figures who have been forced to accept 24-hour protection or go into hiding after receiving death threats from Islamic extremists. In a country with a tradition of robust public debate and an anything-goes culture, the fear of assassination has rattled society and forced people such as Ellian to reassess whether it's worth it to express opinions that could endanger their lives.
Yes, Ellian. Of course it is. I am aware that I am somewhat eccentric in this opinion. More's the pity. As fewer and fewer people in the West are willing to take the risks involved in telling the truth about Islamic terrorism -- whether those risks manifest themselves as death threats or as ostracism from all the trendiest and/or most powerful circles in Washington or as repeated snubs from even from the most "cutting-edge," "anti-PC" talk shows -- the worse off we all are. If people value their lives more than the truth, they will die anyway, and their children will live in an environment where lies reign supreme and everyone is too terrified to confront them.
Today the chattering classes tell themselves lies about the multiculturalist paradise of tolerance that was Muslim Spain, or the Ottoman Empire. Those who challenge these lies are vilified and ignored. What will happen? The next generation of chatterers will grow up in a new version of Muslim Spain or the Ottoman Empire, and far too late they will find out the truth: that those places were not Dantescan Paradisos in which Jews, Christians, and Muslims stood equal and gazed upon the glorious visage of the Great God Tolerance. Rather, they were hellholes of dhimmitude, oppression and subjugation -- just like the one they're living in. But everyone will be afraid to say so.
I'd rather die at the hands of some righteous jihadist maniac than will that for my children.
"The extremists are afraid that if Dutch society becomes a safe haven for an intellectual discussion of political Islam, it will be very dangerous for them," said Ellian, an Iranian-born professor of social cohesion who escaped to the Netherlands two decades ago from Afghanistan after receiving death threats from communists there. "This is normal behavior in the Middle East, but not in Europe. They think it's their obligation to kill people they consider to be enemies of Islam."
Here in the United States things have not yet progressed so far. Here, some Muslims think it's their obligation to defame and smear people they consider to be enemies of Islam. It works well enough among those ignorant enough to allow themselves to be manipulated.
In other European countries and in the United States, Islamic extremists have generally sought to spread terror with indiscriminate attacks -- bombing trains and hijacking airliners. In the Netherlands, however, radicals have embraced a different strategy: singling out individuals for assassination.The fear in the Netherlands erupted one year ago when Theo van Gogh, a filmmaker and renowned social provocateur, was fatally shot and slashed around the throat while walking on a busy street in Amsterdam. His assailant, a Dutch man of Moroccan descent, pinned a five-page note to the body with a knife explaining that van Gogh -- as well as a number of Dutch politicians and other "unbelievers" -- deserved to die for insulting Islam.
Since then, the Dutch security services have reported uncovering several bombing and assassination attempts organized by Islamic extremists, fueling the public sense of alarm.
In late October, police arrested seven young Muslims on suspicion of planning to murder unidentified lawmakers and blow up the headquarters of the Dutch General Intelligence and Security Service....
But on that day, an unknown gunman opened fire on the office of Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, who has threatened to expel radical Muslim clerics. Windows were shattered, but no one was injured.
Now, many prominent people don't go out in public alone. In Amsterdam, Mayor Job Cohen, who is Jewish, and a Dutch Moroccan alderman, Ahmed Aboutaleb, have bodyguards after receiving death threats from Islamic extremists. In The Hague, the national seat of government, security has been stepped up.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somalian-born member of parliament who was a friend and colleague of van Gogh, fled the country and sought refuge on a U.S. military base after van Gogh's killer wrote that she was next on the hit list. Another legislator, Geert Wilders, has been taken into protective custody since radicals vowed to behead him as "an enemy of Islam."
Dutch authorities acknowledged that they don't yet understand the roots of the problem. "This is a very fundamental question, and we don't have a very good answer," said Vincent van Steen, a spokesman for the Dutch intelligence agency, known by the abbreviation AIVD. "We haven't seen this in the Netherlands since the 17th century, where a politician was murdered."
Well, they can read all about the roots of the problem in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), but their politically correct blinders would no doubt preclude their picking up such a book.
Posted by Robert at November 11, 2005 8:58 AM
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Before Xmas the mentioned book and "Eurabia" will be a part of my ever growing personal library.
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at November 11, 2005 9:33 AM
Mr. Spencer, if you happen to see this: Did CAIR's mention of you appear to cause any increase in traffic here?
Posted by: Gary at November 11, 2005 9:51 AM
Re: "Dutch authorities acknowledged that they don't yet understand the roots of the problem."
Well doh as Homer would say. Maybe they should start reading Jihad Watch, LGF, Gates, etc. They just might begin to understand.
Posted by: johnb at November 11, 2005 9:59 AM
Ah sweet sweet Andalusia, a paradise lost.
Channel 4 and the BBC in Britain, Prince Charles and some authors (now identified in short hand as the Usual Suspects), have gone out of their way to glorify the fictitious "civilisation" of islam. The most mooted one is the Moorish rule of Andalusia, where it is confidently asserted that Jews, Christians and muslims lived peacefully together, building a society that was the envy of Europe and the world, all under benevolent Islamic rule.
It seems to me, that is what the goal is, i.e. a hankering for utopia, even though a little research shows, that like virtually all visions of utopia, Spain under the Moors was hell for those who had to live in it.
So it may well be a human desire for utopia, where Christians, Jews and muslims i.e., people of different faiths, can all live in peace. In effect the allure of an ideal society.
Is this the cause for the glorification of Andalusia? I propose something a bit more sinister. I feel that the powers that be, and its organs such as the BBC, have realised that by shear demographic growth, muslims will inherit Europe. As Samir, a French muslim states
"You don't really think that we're going to stop now? Are you stupid? It will continue, non-stop. We aren't going to let up. The French won't do anything and soon, we will be in the majority here."
I propose that programmes in Europe glorifying the Arab occupation of Spain, is in reality preparing the population for the inevitable, i.e., their subjugation. They are counselling us that things wont be bad at all – just look at Andalusia.
Am I being paranoid? I hope so. But I cannot remove from my mind what Naipaul wrote - that the conquered people after conversion to islam, forgot and derided their native culture, and even identified with the invading Arabs.
In a perverse of replay of history, we (and I mean here the usual suspects as identified above) are identifying with invaders that have yet to take over Europe. They cannot see how, in a liberal democratic society, this conquest by demographic growth can be avoided. Consequently, and accepting the reality as of now, the usual suspects are thus encouraging the conquest of Europe, and at the same time beguiling the natives to meekly accept their fate, as they have nothing to fear, for it will be just as wonderful as Andalusia.
Posted by: DP111 at November 11, 2005 10:18 AM
Why don't some of you people with extra money mail some copies of : "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" to some of these Dutch afuthorities?
Posted by: capner at November 11, 2005 10:27 AM
The distinguishing characteristic of Western civilisation is the freedom to think and disseminate ideas that are uncomfortable, and to do so, without fear for one's life or danger to ones family. It is this freedom that was fought for through successive generations, and it was the attainment of this that lead to the blossoming of civilisation, as we know it.
It is an undeniable fact that the presence of Muslims in the West has seriously compromised this most cherished of all Western values, or as V.S.Naipaul would put it, this most cherished of all Universal values. The consequence of this is that the progress of civilisation itself is threatened and may well bring about its demise. We see this in every aspect of our society, from authors of books critical of Islam, newspapers that are in fear in a similar manner, Muslims who are afraid to leave Islam, and right down to ordinary citizens. The signs were there for anyone to notice it at the time of the Rusdhie affair. I wrote to papers at the time, in the same vein as I write the above, pointing out the huge implications of appeasing Khomeini's fatwa. We are now paying for such appeasement.
Fear has, and always has been the first symptom of a society that is being ravaged by Islam. This fear is inculcated and encouraged by all Muslims, whether they be Jihadi terrorists or moderate Muslim leaders, who warn us that if we do not listen to the growing alienation of young Muslims, there will be an explosion of anger from the Muslim community in the West. In every case, Muslims try to paralyse the victim society with fear of the Muslim and Islam. The way forward is clear. We must not be frightened to take actions, even if they are inimical with some of our cherished values, for the stakes are too high.
To combat the fear, the editor of Jyllands-Posten correctly identified the symptoms and applied the corrective measure. This measure will have to be continuously applied despite the threat of reprisals against Denmark. The analogy is to an antibiotic one takes to combat a bacteria. One has to continue with the course. There is also another component to our fear - it is the fear of our own fierceness.
The stakes are high not just for us but for the billion muslims who are trapped in this ideology. They were and still are, the main victims of islam. Even though we suffer from the callous suicide bomber, muslims are trapped in the prison of islam, who see no exit except through deliverance by us. This is a higher cause then self-defence.
Posted by: DP111 at November 11, 2005 10:35 AM
Robert and Hugh:
Is there a politically incorrect guide to Andalusia?
Hugh:
You seem to generate very erudite articles with easy dispatch. Can you not put something together on Andalusia and publish.
Posted by: DP111 at November 11, 2005 10:39 AM
Google "Maria Rosa Menocal" and "Jihad Watch" and "Posted by Hugh" -- I'm sure I've had my say, many times, about her book "The Ornament of the World." Or google "Andrew Bostom" and "Andalusia" or perhaps "Andalucia" and see what you come up with. It won't be "The Moor's Last Sigh."
Posted by: Hugh at November 11, 2005 12:07 PM
.. "This is a very fundamental question, and we don't have a very good answer,"
Maybe they haven't heard of La Sombra Negra. Maybe someone should tell them.
at November 11, 2005 12:14 PM
When a mafia don puts out a contract on someone, or when a drug kingpin issues a "green light" on a rival, they are considered to be fully culpable if their intended target target is harmed, even more so than the operative who actually carries out the order. I found it appalling that khomeini was able to put out a contract on Salman Rushdie with impunity. He had committed a serious crime against a British subject and was given a free pass. The imams will continue to issue their fatwas until they are held fully accountable.
Posted by: Infidel33 at November 11, 2005 12:35 PM
Thanks Hugh. Now that you mention it, I do recall it.
at November 11, 2005 12:56 PM
Some updates on Dutch 'enemies of islam':
Hirsi Ali's neighbours go to court over security
10 November 2005
AMSTERDAM — Neighbours of Ayaan Hirsi Ali are going to court to protest at what they claim is the unbearable disruption caused to their lives by the security around the threatened MP.
The case against the Dutch State and the owner of Hirsi Ali's apartment will be heard by a court in The Hague on 25 November, newspaper 'Algemeen Dagblad' said on Thursday.
The neighbours involved in the case indicate they are sick and tired of the hustle and bustle caused by the armour-plated car used to ferry Hirsi Ali from her home near the centre of The Hague to Parliament. The complaints also relate to the security cameras "everywhere".
One neighbour, who asked to remain anonymous,
said: "It is crack-pot. The security guards drive out of the parking garage with squealing tyres - in the middle of a residential area. The guards walk around day and night, and a car with the engine running is constantly stationed outside our window. I've had enough
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?channel_id=1&story_id=25253
Forensics cast serious doubt on Verdonk 'bullet attack'
7 November 2005
AMSTERDAM — It is unlikely the damage to the window of the office used by Immigration and Integration Minister Rita Verdonk was caused by a firearm, the National Forensics Institute (NFI) said on Saturday.
The investigation will continue this week in a bid to establish what did cause the damage. It is unclear when the damage was caused but it is known Verdonk was not in the office at the time.
The window pane in Verdonk's office in the justice ministry building in The Hague was removed on Saturday for examination, the police said in a statement.
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?channel_id=1&story_id=25090
at November 11, 2005 1:16 PM
Re: Andalusia:
Does anyone know
1) of sources that document the numbers of beheadings of Christians who refused to recant their denial of Mohammed's prophet status under Andalusian Muslim domination
2) What other "crimes" were punished with beheadings in Andalusia and how many
3) What time periods are involved for the figures
4) And finally, sources for the allegation that skulls from the beheadings were sent to North Africa to be part of the construction materials for mosques.
?
Posted by: Dr. Pepper at November 11, 2005 2:43 PM
"AMSTERDAM — It is unlikely the damage to the window of the office used by Immigration and Integration Minister Rita Verdonk was caused by a firearm, the National Forensics Institute (NFI) said on Saturday."
Whatever this was, if it was an attack it will be very interesting to find out who perpetrated it. In this case, the usual suspects may not be guilty.... Rita Verdonk is the same minister that proposed sending all native born Dutch with less than an 8th grade education to Muslim sensitivity training classes-- Thus implying that the "Muslim problem" was somehow related to the ignorance and misdeeds of the underclass. This is a vintage example of the Eurocrat's perfidy -- this grave misidentification of the root cause of the Muslim non-integration serves to perpetuate the problem, and exacerbate tensions...
Basically the underclass in Europe may have no other alternatives than
1. Submitting to the perfidious dictates of the political elite, and thus be snuffed out under the Islamic Doom these fantasists have set in motion...
or
2. Resort to NeoNazism by stoking the xenophobic strains of European society in order to attempt to counter the Muslim Menace...
Both are horrific choices, but the nimrods in Europe are more or less guaranteeing that Europe will either go down into the fascist Islamic sewer, or into the neoNazi fascist sewer --
I am sad to say that I have concluded that Europe is probably lost withing the next 2 decades either way...
If I am wrong -- no worries -- write me off as a henny penny alarmist... If I am right -- what should we be doing RIGHT NOW to plan for these ugly contingencies?
Posted by: jsla at November 11, 2005 3:53 PM
Infidel33
When a mafia don puts out a contract on someone, or when a drug kingpin issues a "green light" on a rival, they are considered to be fully culpable if their intended target target is harmed, even more so than the operative who actually carries out the order. I found it appalling that khomeini was able to put out a contract on Salman Rushdie with impunity. He had committed a serious crime against a British subject and was given a free pass. The imams will continue to issue their fatwas until they are held fully accountable.
at November 11, 2005 6:14 PM
DP111,
The late Richard Fletcher wrote an excellent, unromantic book called "Moorish Spain" Paul Fergosi's very funny book "Jihad" has some good chapters on the conquest and reconquest of the Iberian Peninsula.
Posted by: spencerd at November 11, 2005 10:27 PM
Maybe, but you can bet your life I dont plan to take either of those situations lying down! Make no mistake that me, along with plenty others are ready for a fight in Europe if Islam refuses to stop its relentless march. However I would rather die than resort to neonazism. That would be as bad as Islamization
Posted by: The Englishman at November 11, 2005 10:29 PM
I believe that global solidarity by all the nations that are being attacked by Islam is essential for our survival.
It is Important for the Dutch to know that many people both in America and around the world support them... understand that they are on the front lines... and realize that if they make a stand they are doing it not just for themselves but for all mankind.
They need us to email our support and respect as they fight for their freedoms and ours
When the Jihad reaches Holland... I will stand with them and I am Dutch
When France is burning at the hands of Muslims then I am French.
When London was bombed I was saddened for at that instant I became English.
There is one only one global community in the struggle for Islam!
Posted by: El Cid at November 12, 2005 12:02 AM
Every Westerner must fight Islamic jihad in his or her own way, to the extent they can, because, as Mr. Spencer says, it IS about the future and about our children. I do not want my children or grandchildren to live like dhimmis or convert to Islam.
We are very lucky that our enemy is not smart. It is the quiet jihadists, the subversive ones, who are most dangerous. The overt, militant ones actually contribute to a sense of unity in the West, to galvanizing of Western public opinion against Islam, and they are so blood-thirsty, that they refuse to listen to the quiet, smart ones.
Thanks to the militant jihadists who are too impatient to wait until they are majorities or near majorities in their host countries and prefer to wage open jihad despite numerical disadvantage, one day Westerners will get to the point where they are completely fed up, frustrated, and terrorized, that we will jettison political correctness in all of its phony manifestations, and elect leaders like Le Pen, who will take care of the Muslim problem.
Give it some time, one or two dirty bomb detonations (or something of a similar scale), and you will see Western governments scrambling to intern or deport Muslims "for their own protection."
at November 12, 2005 4:14 AM
Free Speech in Islam.
Arlandson has provided a good on-line introduction to how Mohammad dealt with critics.
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/free_speech.htm
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/dead_poets.htm
Some relevant passages:
33:57 Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah hath cursed them in the world and the Hereafter, and hath prepared for them the doom of the disdained.
33:58 And those who malign believing men and believing women undeservedly, they bear the guilt of slander and manifest sin.
33:59 O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
33:60 If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbours in it but a little while.
33:61 Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter
Also,
37:34 Lo! thus deal We with the guilty.
37:35 For when it was said unto them, There is no God save Allah, they were scornful
37:36 And said: Shall we forsake our gods for a mad poet ?
37:37 Nay, but he brought the Truth, and he confirmed those sent (before him).
37:38 Lo! (now) verily ye taste the painful doom -37:39 Ye are requited naught save what ye did -
37:40 Save single-minded slaves of Allah;
at November 12, 2005 5:06 AM
The MSM seems to have decided that not reporting on the French intifadah any longer that it just might go away.
Check out LGF for more:
France is burning everywhere and its politicians are hiding!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at November 12, 2005 5:08 AM
The Rushdie affair mentioned upthread was a turning point for me. Prior to that, I'd even been vaguely sympathetic to Islam but the sight of book burning on the streets of a British city, the cold shouldering of Rushdie by many of the so called left intelligentsia and the impunity of a foreign dictator calling for the death of a British citizen was an absolute outrage. Did our fathers and grandfathers lay down their lives to defeat fascism so that another type of fascism aided and abetted by liberals and even state institutions can take its place?
Posted by: londongirl at November 12, 2005 5:38 AM
The turning point for me was when a friend of mine, a Christian convert from Islam was sent numerous death threats, eventually he and his family left the country in an attempt to escape them.
Posted by: The Englishman at November 12, 2005 6:00 AM
Re: Political Correctness
Robert wrote:
“Well, they can read all about the roots of the problem in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), but their politically correct blinders would no doubt preclude their picking up such a book.”
The irony. There is nothing politically correct about Islam itself. Traditional Islam is anti-feminist, anti-multicultural, anti-human rights, and it is deeply intolerant. The Koran is loaded with offensive, hateful, sexist language. Islam is fundamentally imperialist, having as its overriding goal the elimination of all other religions. It divides the world into Land of Islam and Land of War. It divides people into Muslims (who are superior) versus non-Muslims (who are inferior). And yet, due to public ignorance, honest criticism of Islam is considered politically incorrect!
Perhaps we need to exploit these “politically correct blinders (biases).” Perhaps we need to show how politically incorrect Islam really is. Perhaps we need to publish an article, for example, with the list of the Koran’s insults (e.g., non-Muslims are “worst of created beings,” Jews are turned into apes and pigs, women are described as “tilth,” and so on).
In pursuasion, there is the “foot-in-the-door” technique. Generally, it works by starting with trying to convince someone of a seemingly minor, easy-to-accept point. Once the “buyer” accepts the minor point, then the “seller” brings in increasingly larger, more significant points that might have been difficult to accept all at once, up front. It may be easy to get people to accept an article about insults (see below) than one about imperialist bloody jihads and the ultimate goal of Islam. Once people read about the insults, they will be more open to accepting the larger, more difficult-to-accept points. (Having understood the insults, they will have understood the basic premise that Islam is inherently hostile toward non-Muslims. We then build from there). Obviously, many people still have a hard time believing that true Islam is anything but a religion of peace that has been distorted by a tiny percentage of fanatics.
I don’t propose that we stop exposing the brutal and bloody truth about Islam. Of course, we need to keep it up. Nevertheless, it would be useful to have some more “foot in the door” types of articles for people who are still quite naïve.
Another suggestion is to let Islam speak for itself as much as possible. In other words, “show, don’t tell.” For example, it is one thing to say Islam is intolerant, but it is more convincing to show that Islam is intolerant. (Robert’s publishing or posting of hate mail is an example that illustrates this point). Imagine, for example, this brief list of insults from the Koran appearing in a mainstream news article or op-ed:
What the Koran says about non-Muslims: “worst of created beings” (98:6), are “miscreants” (2:99, 24:55), are the worst beasts in Allah’s sight (8:55), are “a folk without intelligence”/ “most ignorant” (8:65, 6:111), “evil” is upon them (16:27), evil (2:91, 2:99), liars/they lie (2:10, 9:42, 16:39, 16:105, 59:11), the “wrong-doers” (2:254, 5:45), on the side of the devil (Satan) and are fighting for him (4:76-77); “enemy” and “perverted” (63:4); “wicked” (80:42, 9:125); hypocrites, (4:61); losers who are deceived by Allah (2:6), and deceived by Satan (4:60); have a “diseased heart” (2:10, 9:125); are ill (84:20); are “guilty” for disbelieving (45:31, 83:29); deaf, dumb, and blind, and have no sense (2:171); have no sense (5:103); their fathers were unintelligent and had no knowledge or guidance (2:170, 5:104); Allah assigns them devils for protecting friends (7:27); they choose devils for protecting friends (7:30); disgraced lives (22:9); “losers” (7:179); foolish and liars (7:66), liars and losers (58:18-19), false pride and schism (38:2), “unclean” (9:28).
Such a presentation would have the dual effect of making non-Muslims quite rightly offended, while putting the social pressure where it belongs, on Islamic apologists. This would certainly give the general public a different frame of reference when groups like CAIR complain about “Islamophobia.” Instead of talking about Islamophobia, the public would now be talking about “Infidelophobia.” There is little escape for the apologist; those hateful words are in the Koran.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 12, 2005 9:15 AM
capner: a lot of us are aware, but I think Europe in general still deals with a emotional/mental backlash that anything remotely right of the political spectrum is inherently bad and reeks of Nazism.
Posted by: asmodai at November 12, 2005 12:41 PM
from above: "I think Europe in general still deals with a emotional/mental backlash that anything remotely right of the political spectrum is inherently bad and reeks of Nazism."
That's true -- and maybe it's taken 60 years to finally see the damage done by Nazism in the mid 20th Century -- Hitler drove a hole through the European civilization that America helped to partially repair -- but the true level of devastation still echoes -- and the vibrations have undermined their confidence (perhaps rightly so) in their institutions. But who would have thought that even after the defeat of Nazism, that the direct effects of Nazism would still be making Europe sick? But it is so... They are sick -- and they'd prefer to point at America as the agent causing them the most trouble, while ignoring their own complicity in the horrors they continue to release into the world -- the 20th Centuries worst scourges were primarily European social inventions... Communism and Nazism...
Today we witness them unwittingly and wittingly harboring Islamic fascism -- We must not forget that Khomeini lived in Paris and was supported by French Welfare in the penultimate period of his insurrection against the Shah -- The UK, German and French systems have long welcomed radical Islamist fascist revolutionaries onto their soil as "political refugees" for nearly 50 years...
The 9/11 conspiracy was a largely European affair -- and France and Germany have actively sought an American loss in Iraq, France gave Israel and Iraq their nuclear industries single handedly, and France and Germany are highly complicit in technology smuggling to various Islamic fascist regimes over the decades. Today the French and Germans are hampering US efforts to threaten Iran with military action if they don't desist nuclear weapons ambitions immediately -- thus guaranteeing the attainment by Iran of nukes -- and all that will spiral out of that disaster...
We generally think of them as allies, but just as often they are feckless and treacherous, and act against our best interests...
Posted by: jsla at November 12, 2005 7:27 PM
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