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That didn't take long did it?
From the BBC
new group has been formed to replace radical Islamic cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed's al-Muhajiroun group, which was disbanded last year.
Ahl ul-Sunnah Wa al-Jamma was launched in a north London charity shop, with leading member, Simon Sulayman Keeler, calling the Queen "an enemy of Islam".
Posted by Anne at November 18, 2005 4:38 PM
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He Spencer and Hugh. Don't be Islamophobes. Haven't you got the telegram from the moderate Muslim leadership of France:
Boubakeur said politicians should "stop Islamising all problems concerning Muslims ... We don't want to be the scapegoats for the failures of integration policy."
Please just stop "Islamising[sic] all problems concerning Muslims"
(Another quote that should be from the Onion)
Posted by: tokyobk
at November 18, 2005 4:51 PM
When will the English people stand up and fight for their country?
Soon I hope, for Muslims are becoming more and more vocal in their desire for Sharia law in England.
Will London become a Millet state within Great Britain?
Posted by: a10billr
at November 18, 2005 5:08 PM
Well, since I took an oath to the Queen "and all her lawful descendants" some time back, I suppose - since I still hold to this oath - that I am now, also, an enemy of islam.
Now, that didn't take long either, did it?
You know, I came to this site hoping I didn't know what I thought I knew.
Now it's depressing affirmation of what I now know that I really did know then.
You know?
Geoff
Posted by: Geoff
at November 18, 2005 5:36 PM
I wonder what Prince Charles thinks of these attacks on his mum?
He has been an outspoken supporter of Islam in the past...very odd views at times has Charles.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/CinnamonStillwell51112.htm
Posted by: Mike_W
at November 18, 2005 5:59 PM
Once upon a time when Britain was really Great Britain such treachery would have been met by immediate imprisonment in the Tower of London.
What will happen in Londond? - probably a Livingstone sponsored march to support the abolishmwnt of the monarchy on "Islamophobic" grounds.
Perhaps Charles is not such a Dork after all ?
at November 18, 2005 6:17 PM
My goodness, what must "SIR" iqbal sarcranie be thinking? He must be torn between loyalties solemnly sworn to Her Majesty and to the demon mohamet.
By the way, I suspect that Sir Winston would have long since rejected the title, first trivialized (rock and roll stars) and then rendered utterly profane (sarcranie).
Posted by: Infidel33
at November 18, 2005 6:54 PM
Court says Muslim roleplaying in school OK
SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 18 (UPI) -- Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district because some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for a history course, a court has ruled.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the role-playing game was not a religious exercise that violated anybody's constitutional rights.
The court upheld a lower court ruling, saying only that the activities at the Byron, Calif., school weren't "overt religious exercises" that would raise concerns under the First Amendment prohibition of "establishment of religion."
The decision was issued one day after the U.S. House of Representatives chastised the 9th Circuit for ruling earlier this month that parents can't sue public schools for providing information about sex. That decision "deplorably infringed on parental rights," said the House resolution.
Posted by: otterfisher
at November 18, 2005 7:33 PM
Then it should be OK for the school to put on a historical play about Caesar Augustus calling for a census of the empire, more precisely the census when Quirinius was governor of Syria. The play would show everyone returning to their city to register for the census.
We could have one character named Joseph go from Nazaraeth in Galilee to the City of David called Bethlehem, because he was a descendant of King David. Another character would Mary, pregnant at the time, who travelled with Joseph.
On top of everyone travelling for the census, it was also the holiday travel season. Joseph never made advanced reservations at the Bethlehem Holiday Inn, and they were completely booked when they got there. Stressed out over trying to find an available room anywhere, Mary started having contractions. They took refuge in the stables and she went into labor.
There is nothing religious in this play, so I can't see how any school district could be banned from presenting it according to the 9th Circuit ruling.
Posted by: Lisa
at November 18, 2005 7:55 PM
Otterfisher:
"Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district because some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for a history course, a court has ruled."
Sounds good to me. My history course would show Muslims conquering infidels, dhimmitude, jihad, enslavement. Any bets as to how that course would be received by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and others LLL's.
Posted by: johnb
at November 18, 2005 9:06 PM
The British may as well have a quick-reaction team on standby, ready to remove these groups as they appear. Im thinking such a force wouldnt have much down time.
Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking
at November 19, 2005 1:11 AM
OT - Turkey seems to have given up on joining the EU.
Istanbul was the setting for an international soccer match between the Turkish National side and Switzerland on the 15th of November.
Upon arrival the turkish fans, barely held back by the police, hurled abuse, shoved and did the muslim finger across the throat gesture.
Just in case you may think that it was down to unruly fans, it turns out that all of Turkish officaldom was involved.
The customs officers spent 10 minutes checking everyones' passport.
The fans insulted, spat at and made death threats in full view of the police and media.
The luggage was so delayed that it had to be sent to the hotel later on.
All night fans blared their horns and shot fireworks in front of the hotel.
Swiss National Anthem drowned out by whistling fans.
After the game, players had to run into the dressing room to avoid assaults by fans.
They were attacked on the way to the dressing
room, by Turkish players, the police and security staff.
Turkish police beat up the TV journalists in the dressing room to prevent them filming.
Stephane Grichting, the swiss defender ended up in hospital with a perforated urinary canal.
Sources here:
Video in french, of swiss team's arrival at airport:
(Click on the video Icon, its the first item of the news broadcast)
http://info.rsr.ch/fr/rsr.html?siteSect=500&sid=6240902&cKey=1132078286000
Video of swiss team running back into dressing room:
http://info.rsr.ch/fr/rsr.html?siteSect=500&sid=6247133&cKey=1132244452000
Other Links related to this event:
http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=7681
http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=7680
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4444566.stm
Posted by: Sebastien
at November 19, 2005 5:29 AM
As far as the Bitish needing to wake up, we already have. You don't hear the conversations of ordinary people. You only hear the bulls**t from the government and the mainstream media. This is what we hear every day and it makes the rest of us more and more angry. We're not allowed to discuss the problems with Islam publicly because we will be arrested, but any Muslim can talk freely about the hate for the country they are living in and how superior their religion is. Counterbalanced by likes of Iqbal Sacranie and the rest of the MCB telling us how peaceful and tolerant Islam is as go off around the world. The people of Britain are not blind or deaf but the government and MSM want to pretend we are.
Posted by: calum
at November 19, 2005 11:37 AM
calum,
If you're not allowed to talk about the problems of Islam, then you've already lost a most valuable aspect of being a free people.
A campaign of civil disobedience where the authorities are forced to arrest thousands of citizens for defaming Islam could be one of the most effective solutions in regaining your lost rights.
History has shown time and time again that Freedom must be fought for and that you also must be prepared to fight to keep that freedom. Your previous generation showed that it was up to the task, now we shall see whether the current generation is up to it.
Posted by: William The Crusader
at November 19, 2005 3:14 PM
"The British may as well have a quick-reaction team on standby, ready to remove these groups as they appear. Im thinking such a force wouldnt have much down time."
They do indeed, nothing to do with any governmental body but several tens of concerned patriots, a bit like the Minutemen in the US.
The people concerned are being traced, names noted and tracked down. The police and security services are still paralysed with fear even after the 7/7 atrocities so it is up to others to do their work.
The British govt would rather a problem turn into a disaster than let someone else try to confront and solve it that is why certain people who do not want terrorists roaming freely in the UK are being harassed and maliciously prosecuted by the police force.
We in the UK could do with a little help from people in the US. Many of the jihadis tend to find their way to the US, stop them here and they may not end up over there.
Posted by: IceDragon
at November 19, 2005 5:04 PM
You couldn't make it up:
"...Boubakeur said politicians should "stop Islamising all problems concerning Muslims ... We don't want to be the scapegoats for the failures of integration policy."
Who said Islamo-swine have no sense of humor?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at November 19, 2005 11:45 PM


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