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December 3, 2005

US clergymen met with Hizballah

Unconscionable indeed. "US clergymen met with Hizbullah," from AP, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

The top Presbyterian church official in Chicago has angered Jewish leaders in this city who say a meeting he and other Presbyterians had with Hizbullah last month was "unconscionable."

The Rev. Bob Reynolds, head of the Chicago Presbytery, said the meeting in southern Lebanon took place in early November and was part of a tour of the Middle East.

"The goal of my trip was educational," Reynolds said. "I think one way people can learn from one another is to learn the way people talk about themselves and describe their own reality. In some small measure that did happen on this visit."

The White House has labeled Hizbullah as a terrorist group.

"It is unconscionable that Presbyterian leaders would meet with Hizbullah, which our government designates as a foreign terrorist organization," Lonnie Nasatir, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, said in a statement Thursday. "Hizbullah (Party of God) has a track record of terror that is unambiguous. It pioneered the use of suicide bombing in the Middle East."

Posted by Robert at December 3, 2005 8:14 AM
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If there is a God, Reverend Reynolds will surely be requiring central air conditioning in his eternal domain. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the New Testament than I can show me where we are encouraged to cavort with those who decapitate their prisoners and play football with their heads for Arab television.

If you'd like to ask the good reverend exactly what he learned about the Hizballah "reality", here is the website for the Presbytery of Chicago:

http://www.chicagopresbytery.org/viewpage.asp?id=4

Posted by: Charles Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 10:10 AM

I find this repulsive. How can a group that defines themselves as Christian possibly align themselves with a known group that not only goes completely against what Christianity teaches, but that has a special hatred for those who call themselves Christian? It's sickening, at best. They are making a deal with the devil, and one which God will not look favorably on.

Posted by: pastor_matt023 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 10:40 AM

How does Party of Allah become Hizbullah? Anyway, Nasrallah has made it clear their main goal is destroying the United States. This 'clergyman' should be charged with something federal. Providing aid and comfort to America's sworn enemies must be stopped. Or we should deport them to the Islamic theocracy of their choice.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 11:34 AM

First listing Israel, but I can find the same statements separately in other sources.

Death to America is not a slogan. Death to America is a policy, a strategy and a vision.
-- Hassan Nasrallah (Party of Allah)

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 11:38 AM

Hopefully, you Jews reading this will urge
your coreligionists to boycott any "interfaith"
projects with Presbyterians.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 12:27 PM

Are they complicit or just naive? Nevertheless, they are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG in their behavior for meeting with Hizbollah.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 12:30 PM

These are Lenin's people and they dont even know it.

First in line for the muslim chopping block will be these fools; even the islamothugs hate a traitor and if you would turn on your own people you would turn on us.

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 1:24 PM

A little off topic for this particular item, but I'd like to call attention to Guardian Unlimited's comment on C.S Lewis' Narnia saga.

"Lewis has also been charged with racism as a result of his portrait of the Calormenes in The Horse and His Boy. Calormene, a desert country far to the south of Narnia, strongly suggests the Near East: its people are dark-skinned, wear turbans and carry scimitars. Their diet is heavy on oil, rice, onions and garlic. They are cruel to animals and worship a four-armed god with a vulture's head called Tash who demands human sacrifice. Like Tash, the rulers of Calormene are autocratic, corrupt, treacherous and brutal. Slavery is common, and women cannot read or write or choose whom they will marry. However successful the film of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe may be, it is hard to see how The Horse and His Boy could be made into a sequel today without serious political repercussions."

http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/childrenandteens/story/0,6000,1656323,00.html
Political repercussions? From pointing out that cruelty to animals, worship of a vulture god of human sacrafice, autocratic corruption, treachery, brutality, slavery, and suppression of women are Bad Things? Hi ho! It's amazing how relevant C.S. Lewis has become. And especially about "men without chests."

Posted by: Jwatcher [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 2:30 PM

So much for Christian Pastors defending their flocks from Islamic wolves!!
Re: Narnia was one of my favourite books as a child. PREDICT IT IS GOING TO BE A HUGE HIT. As for dumb bums at Al Guardian - any flaky,silly PC
correct opinion of theirs will only endorse Narnia's success...

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 2:53 PM

I picked this up a few days back from Pastorius:

MEMRI TV translated excerpts from a report on the meeting that was aired by Hizbullah's Al-Manar TV. During the meeting, church elder Ronald Stone said, "We treasure the precious words of Hizbullah and your expression of goodwill towards the American people. Also, we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders."...
http://www.cuanas.blogspot.com/

I get so furious I can't breate when I encounter this kind of thing.

Posted by: sonofwalker [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 3:57 PM

INSANE! He has a death wish

Posted by: CRUSADER [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 4:06 PM
As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders."...
As an American citizen, I'd like to say that according to my take on the American people, useful idiot / Jew haters like this guy are less common than you might imagine. Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 4:25 PM

As an elder of our church,

Yeah, Judas, we hear you........ and pray for your soul.

Posted by: GA_boy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 7:41 PM

presbyterian, most likey represent 2percent of the Christians.. and you have one clery and several of his flunkies go with him to the MidEast... he wants his 10 minutes of fame, since he no one listened to them before their infamous trip and statements....

Posted by: Lulu [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 3, 2005 9:53 PM