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December 12, 2005

Australian beach riots II

In "United in condemnation, divided over the causes" in the Sydney Morning Herald, Malcolm Kerr says the beach fights were touched off by "Middle Eastern" gangs intimidating people in Cronulla:

But the Liberal MP for Cronulla, Malcolm Kerr, said the people of Cronulla were tired of being intimidated by gangs with Middle Eastern backgrounds. The reaction in Cronulla was the result of community anger over the lack of response from authorities and had got out of control as the crowd was fuelled by alcohol.

"There were some drunken louts who have indulged in racist remarks but this is not a racist community," he said.

Others disagree:

The director of the Forum on Australian-Islamic Relations, Kuranda Seyit, said he never imagined tensions would result in "horrible mob violence".

"It was clearly Australian people victimising another ethnic group. It shows that there is underlying racism running deeply in the Australian psyche. It's been simmering for a few years but I think the latest incident here - people have really let loose their inherent racism and violence … The only thing I am worried about is that it's going to further play on the minds of young Australian Muslims, particularly of Lebanese origin.

"It's going to lower the morale which has already been lowered. They are young Australians who don't have a sense of belonging."

The founder of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, said talkback radio programs and some newspapers had presented a youth problem as a race issue. "The attack on the lifeguards was just wayward youths behaving badly, but they [some media] escalated that to a racist issue."

He said yesterday's "mob behaviour was absolutely outrageous and un-Australian".

Posted by Robert at December 12, 2005 7:11 AM
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'Arabs' retaliate:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051212/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_racial_unrest

And just in case JW doesn't update:

Today’s Extras on Jihad’s 5th Column:

Sami al-Arian: Genocidal, Anti-American Islamist Hero
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20486

Excerpt: Dating back to September 1995, the Tampa Tribune wrote dozens of articles investigating al-Arian’s affiliations with terrorist organizations and leading terrorists themselves. While the university severed its relationships with the think tanks founded by al-Arian, it did not attempt to fire him. That only happened after 9/11—in a much different political environment.

(Ahhh. I see. Pre-Bush: Nothing done. Since Bush…)

Die In Place:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/mikeadams/2005/12/12/178653.html

Censorship in the name of Religion (islam)
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dianawest/2005/12/12/178652.html

A tale of two Moms:
http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=120905K

Posted by: Gary [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 8:35 AM

This problem has been brewing for a number of years. A day at the beach which was once something to look forward to is now an unpleasant experience. This is how ME types skate around the law when they go to the beach:

They'll deliberately kick a soccer ball at a mother and young child. If the ball strikes the child or mother they just smile. If the woman says anything she has three in-your-face ME types calling her a slut or whore and telling her to 'get off our beach'. If a male goes to her aid the ME's use the mobile phone and suddenly you're surrounded by about 10 - 15 ME types who want to belt an Aussie. These ME types walk behind teenage girls and call them sluts or whores and say 'how would you like a 10 inch banana'. Other stuff they do is surround a couple of teenage girls sunbathing and jump on them. We have a movement on the beach known as Nippers which is to teach young kids (around 10 years of age) how to enjoy the beach and they are organised into teams and stuff like that (think little athletics). The ME types walk up to the kids and call the young girls 'tarts'. As I said a day at the beach is nothing but a hassle at certain beaches.

Our police force hierarchy has been politicised by our politicians and made impuissant by a pommie commissioner we had a few years back who promoted 'yes men' and got rid of a lot of good old fashioned cops. Believe it or not we had two female officers on patrol at Cronulla about 3 months ago. Can you imagine 20 ME types itching to bash a cop being scared of two female officers?

Our premier (something like a yank governor) Morris Iemma keeps talking about the law breakers facing the full force of the law. Once in court they get things like conferencing (for young offenders 14 - 15 -16 year-olds) or 120 hours community service by our limp wristed magistrates. I can almost smell the brown stuff running down the leg of a law breaker just thinking about it. 120 of community service - how will I cope?

Tonight (Monday 12th from about 9pm) has been a busy one for cops. Muslims came streaming out of the Lakemba mosque chanting god is great. Then young ME types 'visited' some suburbs and smashed parked cars with baseball bats and steel bars etc.

Arabs have been urged via text messaging to turn up at Cronulla this Sunday 18th for a confrontation.

How can we ever thank our politicians enough for bringing this mob into our country? Do we pay our politicians enough?

Multiculturalism is a huge success in Australia.

Posted by: Salad_In [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 8:54 AM

Cronulla Beach attacks.........
MAROUBRA: Rampage of hate

By STEVE GEE
Daily Telegraph
December 13, 2005

TERRIFIED residents told yesterday how they were bashed, threatened with firearms and forced to cower inside their homes after up to 100 youths of Middle Eastern descent rampaged through Maroubra in apparent retaliation for the Cronulla race riots.

As locals counted the cost, more than 60 damaged cars lined two of Maroubra's main streets yesterday.
Residents told how they watched in horror - many cowering inside with their children - as youths descended on Maroubra and Malabar Rds, targeting virtually every car in the street.

One man, Steve, said he was threatened with a handgun and chased inside his home when he went to investigate the commotion.

"I was at the gate and this big guy came rushing towards me," he said.

"I slammed the gate and ... another guy at the car pointed a gun at me and said, 'get back inside'. I ran inside and they chased us up the steps. It was terrifying."

Another resident, Niki Barr, 42, said she was knocked to the ground after being smashed in the head by a thug with a baseball bat.

"He just smashed me and kept running," Ms Barr said.

"As he ran off he said, 'this is our country too' and he was gone."

Residents said the gang appeared to be well organised with some members smashing cars while others followed closely in getaway vehicles.

Weapons including a set of nun-chukkas, steel poles and tree stakes were left behind after the rampage.

New parents Tallis and Oriana, who did not want to reveal their surnames, said they watched in shock as four men attacked their Nissan Pulsar with a baseball bat, planks of wood and a knife.

"It was really scary because we didn't know what was going to happen, whether they would try and attack the house," Oriana said.

Tallis said: "I'm just surprised no one died, with the knives they had.

"There was one guy slashing tyres, another jumping on the bonnet and others smashing windows."

Trouble flared about 9pm when the gang descended on Malabar Rd and went on a rampage towards Maroubra beach.

Residents claimed police were ill-prepared for the violence, with many saying it was only stopped when the gang was chased away by the 'Bra Boys surf gang.

Lyne Sickle, whose Ford Festiva was vandalised, said she watched a police car enter the street and then turn away as a large mob of hooligans congregated.

"I don't know why they (police) didn't do anything," she said.

Randwick councillor Murray Mathson said only four police cars initially responded to calls for help.

"They were outnumbered and from what I understand, it was the 'Bra Boys who saved the police from attack," he said.

"Although I am not a fan of the 'Bra Boys, I think their protection of the police was praiseworthy in this incident."

Trouble also flared in Brighton-le-Sands, where youths threw missiles at police on Sunday night.

Insurance experts last night said companies should treat the attack on the cars as an act of malicious damage and therefore cover any claims.

The Daily Telegraph

Race violence flares again

12-12-2005
News.com.au

MOBS of men have damaged a number of vehicles in an outbreak of fresh violence in the southern Sydney suburb of Cronulla tonight.

A reporter from radio station 2GB said "chaos" had broken out in the beach shopping centre with vehicles damaged and police making arrests as mobs of men roam the streets.
"People are standing around in shock, just watching," the reporter said.

"Every window in some cars has been smashed. Roads have been blocked (by police)."

He witnessed police arrest a group of five people.

Some motorists were ignoring the road blocks, simply driving around the obstacles, he said.

"There's chaos, with ambulances and police going in all directions." One resident, who did not want to be named, said about 50 cars carrying men of Middle Eastern appearance had driven into the area tonight.

Some of the men emerged from the vehicles and began trashing every car in sight with baseball bats, the resident said.

Ambulance officers also had been called to help at least one injured man seen by reporters lying on the side of the road

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:07 AM

The Dhimmi authorities co-opted themselves by accepting low intensity Jihad as part of Moslem cultural heritage. The omnipresent mild threat to safety and incipient violence is called Disturbing the Peace in most ordinances, a crime for good reason, but never enforced against the Moslems for no good reason (i.e., multiculturalism).

Perhaps an Aussie TV station would like to produce a special interviewing hundreds of white mothers about when Moslems directly threatened and insulted them and their daughters? No, I didn't think so (read: MSM).

PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH

One can only hope that a deep and irreversible divide comes to gape between infidel and Moslem in Australia. Violence can only be fought with violence. Bring it on. Perhaps Oz will lead the way in what needs to happen, MUST HAPPEN, in dozens of Western liberal democracies that hath shat themselves with this awfl offal called Islam.

Posted by: Duke Eudes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:09 AM

At last:

The 'intifadah' arrived in Australia!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:15 AM

C'mon Australia, if we don't react to this outrage we are finished.
They are testing us with this attack.
If we don't respond appropriately, vigorously, with full force, then we are owned.

It is no longer safe to walk the streets.
Do we spend the rest of our lives hiding in our homes?
It's now or never.

We need to call in the army as these animals are well armed.

Every mosque must be bulldozed and all Muslims deported to wherever will take them.

Islam must be outlawed.
It is beyond words how execrable is the cult of Islam.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:18 AM

OT:

Most of you have probably seen this already, but it should be reposted every year. I posted it on JW as well:

A Christmas Poem

Twas the night before Christmas
He lived all alone
in a one bedroom house
made of plaster and stone.

I had come down the chimney
with presents to give,
and to see just who
in this home did live.

I looked all about,
a strange sight I did see,
no tinsel, no presents,
not even a tree.

No stocking by mantle,
just boots filled with sand,
on the wall hung pictures
of far distant lands.

With medals and badges,
awards of all kinds,
a sober thought
came through my mind.

For this house was different,
it was dark and dreary,
I found the home of a soldier,
once I could see clearly.

The soldier lay sleeping,
silent, alone,
curled up on the floor
in this one bedroom home.

The face was so gentle,
the room is such disorder,
not how I pictured
a United States soldier.

Was this the hero
of whom I'd just read?
Curled up on a poncho,
the floor for a bed?

I realized the families
that I saw this night,
owed their lives to these soldiers
who were willing to fight.

Soon round the world,
the children would play,
and grown-ups would celebrate
a bright Christmas day.

They all enjoyed freedom
each month of the year,
because of the soldiers,
like the one lying here.

I couldn't help wonder
how many lay alone,
on a cold Christmas eve
in a land far from home.

The very thought
brought a tear to my eye,
I dropped to my knees
and started to cry.

The soldier awakened
and I heard a rough voice,
"Santa don't cry,
this life is my choice;

I fight for freedom,
I don't ask for more,
My life is my God,
my country, my Corps."

The soldier rolled over
and drifted to sleep,
I couldn't control it
I continued to weep.

I kept watch for hours,
so silent and still
and we both shivered
from the cold night's chill.

I didn't want to leave
on that cold, dark night,
this guardian of honor
so willing to fight.

Then the soldier rolled over,
with a voice soft and pure,
whispered, "Carry on Santa,
It's Christmas day, all is secure."

One look at my watch,
and I knew he was right.
"Merry Christmas my friend
and to all a good night."

This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa, Japan.

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:41 AM

This is NOT new. It is simply out in the open for once so that now the mealy mouthed, multinational sucking morons we call politicians can squeal poltically correct and blame it all upon white racists.
All just to show our asian neighbours that we are really tolerant and that we will continue to turn the other cheek no matter how many teenage girls are raped by Muslim gangs, no matter how many Muslim clerics here break the law, no matter how many aggressive Muslims have a "go" at you in public because they bumped into you.
The "chip on the shoulder" attitude demonstrated by many Muslim men here towards the general population has been allowed to ferment as no one is brave enough to take a stand as they run the risk of being charged with racial vilification.

We, by being tolerant towards an intolerant group are simply gearing up for a future Australian version of what France has recently experienced. God help us if we ever go to war with Indonesia as most of our Muslims could conscientiously object and allow Christians to die fighting for their way of life. The irony here is of janissary quality.

The problem here is that we have Muslim Australians NOT Australian Muslims, as they put their religion before their state and our PC overaware politicians are too gutless to stop their massive influx here

Posted by: Zathras [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:49 AM

One thing we don't need in this battle of civilizations is the trashy, reactionary element (thinking along the lines of the Ewells from "To Kill a Mockingbird" or Cletus from "The Simpsons") of our societies embarrassing the rest of us.

It only lets that self-righteous, jihadist minority see themselves that much more as "victims," and further deludes them into blaming *their* victims-- those infidels who just want a nice day at the beach with (gasp!) arms and legs exposed.

Granted, people such as the Australian beachgoers are more likely to resort to violence when the dhimmitized authorities look the other way in the name of "tolerance."

But it's incumbent on Western societies to act like the "adult" in the clash of cultures, neither stooping to the level of the aggressor, nor pretending, like the parent whose child is throwing a tantrum in a restaurant, that everything's fine, and everyone's ok with it.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:53 AM

bbc update regarding 2nd night of riots, but who and what race is actually doing the rioting? its very ambigious.

"We have shops damaged at Caringbah, cars damaged at Cronulla," said a spokesman for New South Wales police. "We have six arrests at this stage."

A reporter from the ABC national radio network said some of the people coming into Cronulla had carried out attacks on property.

'Bricks thrown'

At the nearby suburb of Brighton-Le-Sands, "a smaller crowd has thrown bricks and other objects at police cars and passing motorists", the reporter said."

who are the smaller crowd? middle easterns or whites?

also reports of middle easterns leaving some mosque chanting "god is great" then going on a rampage??? is this a true report? if it is then the authorities need to investigate, go in to this place of peace, the mosque and question the cleric or whom ever fgave the sermon or talk that night and find out exactly what was said. surely something mustve been said that would creat e further tension. imagine hundreds of youths leaving a church screaming god is great and then tearing up a muslim communtiy, there would be a massive police raid on that church.

but i must say much of the reporting i have read blames white extremists and white yobs?

Posted by: leom [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:02 AM

@ Shiek Yer'Mami,

You still want me to come visit you in Australia? I am not sure, maybe I need to wear a T-shirt with GURKHA written nice and big on it, only hope people remember what a Gurkha is.

-Cheers

Posted by: Gorkhali [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:11 AM

Muslims are rioting leom.

But it's ok...Muslim leaders are on the radio assuring all Australians that Islam preaches that violence "should be repayed with goodness".

The talk-back radio is inundated with Muslims...some playing the good moderate Muslim card, some excusing the violence as righteous retaliation to "idiot Aussie yobbos", one muslim girl complaining that she cannot leave her home and saying there is no proof that Muslims are responsible anyway.

The Muslims seem very well organized...I guess after 1300 years they are getting pretty good at Jihad.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:12 AM

Thanks for giving out this info. No American media outlet that I've see has even mentioned this. What a surprise.

Posted by: Balrog [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:17 AM

You need to educate the racist white trash, who
probably have relatively low IQs, but unlike
their compatriots can see roughly which way the wind blows, that the problem is not all "Asians"
or nonwhites, but something different altogether.

Mike_W has it. Shut down the mosques. This is a
test. If your army doesn't help, you're doomed, since you gave up your arms a few years ago.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:18 AM

These stories look as if they should be on jihadwatch instead of dhimmiwatch; well maybe both, given the criticism, and the failure of the local authorities to act aggressively against them, IE France

Many of the stories coming out of Sydney seem to be somewhat conflicted with each other.
It is difficult to assertain who are the main agitators', or perpetrators' of the seemingly growing violence over the last 24 hours in Sydney.

Are Australian Newspapers so PC that they can't call a spade a spade? Some want to blame it all on White supremists gangs, while others are saying that the main instigators or agitators, are muslims, or middle easterners, which is it ??

Does anyone have a real, and fair assessment of this riot.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:21 AM

As long as the Australians are being blamed for 'racism'on the front page, and 'Islam' is hidden in a small article on the backpage, the battle is lost. Racism probably does play a role, especially among Australians who dont understand the Quranic influences, and just see Arab types causing trouble.
They ran out of the mosque shouting 'Allahu Akbar'. A clear sign that Mohammads demon is active within them. Racism, as we know is not the real problem, it's just more blue smoke and mirrors. The real problem is Mohammads demon. Those possessed are called 'Muslims'. We already know that Islam is not a race. Allah does not infest a race. Allah is racially opportunistic. He started out infecting Arabs, but has expanded to other races. Allah is an evil spirit (demon) if not Satan hinself. Look how he has ruined jillions of perfectly good people. Turned into murderous zombies by the mere contact with Allah.
'How many villages have we destroyed...?'. Allah the wrecker, Allah the destroyer, Allah the architect of mass murder...Allah the demon.
This is like the 'bird flu' except that Islam has already jumped from the garbage pit to humans...it is not muslims who need to be stamped out, it's Allah. Anybody got any garlic, holy water and a sharp stick? I think we are going to need them...


Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:26 AM

well, looking at various sources I think I get the picture:

It takes years to provoke a response from the unprotected public who suffer sharia (well you are infidel and or female so who cares what happens to you) from their own authorities.

when the response comes it is over 5,000 strong and out of that a few do some others in. (probably innocent in as I suspect all the culprits will be in the mosque organising their response).

The word riot is used to describe a pissed off group of people who are all apparently neo-nazi racists and who didn't damage property or kill anyone.

then the mosque brigades set off damaging property and stabbing people somewhere other than where the 5,000 are.

The same thing happened with the koranimals in Birmingham when the blacks got fed up and were not allowed to have a meeting about it by the koranimans who then killed a black guy well away from the trouble who was nothing to do with it.

If Australians cannot realise that it is the most restrained "riot" recently reported and the un-australian ones are those that run out of a mosque and shout praises to the moon god, then I suggest the give up their freedoms now.


(as an aside most lebs are christians so what does the moslem enemy foundation have to do with it by calling the non rioting rioters un-asutralian? I guess they must have even harsher words for the lebs doing a proper riot in revenge. As a second aside why do moslem lebs need asylum from their own umma?)

there are none so blind as those that do not want to see

Posted by: exposesithlords [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:29 AM

Surprise, surprise.. now someone comes on the talk-back radio with a suspiciously sounding middle-eastern accent and says we all need to relax and enjoy Christmas...give peace a chance.

Right...no doubt we will jump at that carrot, lest that nasty jihad stick comes out again sooner rather than later.
Oh yes, it will be used again no doubt.

They really have this stuff down pat don't they.
Frog in the pot.


Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:32 AM

Mike_W (and other 'Strileans),
You need to get the word out. Start directing people to jihadwatch and Spencer's book.

Your "gangs of yobs" need to learn from the
enemy. Text messaging, cell phones, etc. Remember
to take the battle to them, and that the mosque
is the center of it all.

You need talk radio hosts with balls. I'm
not sure if you have a similar expression in
'strine, but you get me.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:44 AM

Seems there are lessons to be learned here. The fact that the "Bra Boys" are reportedly rather repugnant notwithstanding, they were the "front line" of the resistance to jihad. Why was that? The jihadis are well organized, are apparently well-armed with firearms and edged weapons, and are strirred into a frenzy at the local mosque. Only the "Bra Boys" were themselves well-enough organized and of a mind-set to resist the jihad, even to the point of protecting the police. The lesson here is that whether you are in Cronulla or in Cleveland, you cannot rely on the local politicians or the police forces under their direction to resist any form of the jihad, including the ultimate lust-for-blood attacks on your neighborhood. Only you, your friends, and your neighbors can do that, and you must be well-enough organized, well-enough armed, and most importantly, with an iron will to resist.

Posted by: Infidel33 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:54 AM

Yeah, right you are Infidel33...trouble is the police disarmed the "Bra Boys" today... :(

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:01 AM

Check Wretchard at the Belmont Club for excellent coverage of the riots - he lives in Sydney so he's on the spot.

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/

A couple of money quotes from Wretchard:

"I get a little emotional sometimes watching these peacenik types defend blatant murderers because by frustrating justice they are building up tectonic pressures that will go snap one day, and it won't be their necks at the end of a rope."

"What's the use of being innocent if the guilty go scot free?"

BTW - in the comments section, Wretchard notes that one area the Arab Muslims won't venture into to cause chaos is the Vietnamese neighbourhood. The Vietnamese have been through pretty tough times and know how to handle themselves thank you. One sad aspect is the number of Christian Lebanese who are afraid of being mistaken for the perps. He quotes a Christain Lebanese woman: 'they have taken away Christmas'.

Read it all.

Posted by: johnb [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:04 AM

A little history of Australia is needed.

Why did Australia have Lebanese immigration? They aren't in the EU, don't have massive farms that need workers to do the work no one else wants, and were not a colonial power that was appeasing a guilt complex. So what caused all this immigration to occur?

When push comes to shove there the Lebanese can pack up and go back to Lebanon and never have to deal with any other than their own. Where will the Aussie go?

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:23 AM

Well Borg, a few of our politicians were inspired humanists with a vision of heaven-on-earth.

After all, we are all God's creatures and everyone was listening with tears in their eyes to John Lennon's Imagine...and it was all such a lovely idea...so, so touchy-feely.

Apparently they didn't bother studying history before they opened the floodgates.
It is a real shame a venomous spider called Islam snuck in with the crowd.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:36 AM

"So a Game Has Begun......"

This is exactly the reason some of us Americans will fight to the end....should any future PC government try to disarm us! I recommend the Australians get their hands on some weapons to defend themselves in the future. If these were Muslim cockroaches who were intimidating your beaches....trying to engage the infidels....well you may need a nice sawd-off-shotgun to protect your family in the near future. If they want a Jihad--I vote for the Aussies to give them their own style of Jihad! Kick some A$$.........

Posted by: rumoret [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 12:11 PM

I'm under the impression the Lebanese Muslims got to Australia in the same way that the Arab Muslims got to Dearborn, Michigan:

In short, Arab Christians immigrated, fitted in perfectly with the melting pot, contributed huge benefits to their respective countries -- the US and Australia. Then the Arab Muslims followed them and none of us understood the difference between the exemplary, hard-working and fun-loving Arab Christians who came before, and the gang-raping, criminal, hate-spewing Arab Muslims who came later -- and we let them all in.

We are paying the price for our woeful ignorance right now, and what a heavy price it is. Muslim riots coming to Michigan in a few years too.

Posted by: Suzan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 12:23 PM

I think the australian government and the news media want white people put down. It is the same thought with many governments. White is bad, brown is good.
Do everything you can to aid the brown.
But first, they took your guns away.

Posted by: capner [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 12:29 PM

Australians- Arise !! Your time has come! Your women are being put to shame by the verybeggers ,who came to your land begging. Where is your valour? It is a shame your Government acts so passivly. In fact it wants to train Indonesian Muslims in warfare! Rise up in millions and overthrow these evil islamists.Let your action be the 'starter' to the whole world uprising against this evil.AMEN!

Posted by: rafia [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 12:43 PM

I feel genuine sympathy with the Lebanese Christians residing in Australia.

In Canada the large Lebanese Maronite community has contributed in countless ways to the enrichment of the country. They're dynamic, they're clever, they're generous, and they're very, very appreciated.

No one should ever be attacked because of skin colour, but individuals can be challenged and confronted based on erroneous cultural cassettes.

In fact, it should be encouraged, because challenging ideas and deeply held beliefs is one of the hallmarks of western civilisation.

Posted by: John Palubiski [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 12:52 PM

Well, if only the Bra Boys were disarmed, things don't look good. Keep heading down that path and a
small number of mohammdans will kick all of Australia's ass. I cannot believe that Australians will allow that to happen.

Unfortunately, once the cancer metastasizes radical
treatment is called for. While you look down on
violent punks, the fact is that only people who are
willing to use extreme violence are capable of combatting the mohammadan threat. You need to hit back much harder than you yourself have been hit.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 1:10 PM

Its the Muslims who are the curse of every Western country. There are thousands of immigrants who are not muslims who have come to Western countries and have assimilated well. To tar everyperson who is 'brown' as anti-west is incorrect. Its the Muslims who should not be allowed in. Thats the sign of the times; if we need peace on our streets. Muslims OUT

Posted by: faqi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 1:27 PM

It's fascinating to compare and contrast official and media reactions to the Paris and Cronulla riots.

Muslim rioters:
We must understand them. They're oppressed, they're victims. Root causes etc. No condemnation. Vilification of anyone who goes against this party line.

White rioters:
Fascist scum. Oppressors. Inherently racist. No attempt at understanding root causes. Immediate condemnation.

Finkielkraut was so right.
When they riot, they're victims. When we riot, we're fascists.

Posted by: Silvester [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 2:06 PM

It's funny to see them use the word 'racist' to describe the ones who are attacking the muslims. What no one wants to say, is that muslims are just as 'racist', if not moreso, than any other group on earth. They hate whites, blacks, asians, Jews, Christians, pagans, anyone not arab muslim. So why isn't the media calling a spade a spade? Due to fear. They know if harsh words are used against muslims, even though it's the truth, it will result in more killings, destruction, bombings, terrorism, thereby admitting to the fact, even if indirectly, that islam is a terrorist organization, and not a peaceful religion. And the same thing happens in the western world, the media and governments giving into islamism because they don't want to spark more riots and terrorism, therefore indirectly claiming that islam=terrorism. So why don't we just come out and say it? If the truth were to be told, we could more effectively deal with the problem. But no one wants to do that. And there are many reason: PC-leftism, liberalism, fear, 'tolerance', etc. And it's those very things that will kill us all under the name of islam.

Posted by: pastor_matt023 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 2:16 PM

On a less than serious note, here is an excerpt of a posting on lgf of an eyewitness's account of this evenet.


Posted by Aisha 12/11/2005 03:05PM PST

Whew! Infidels! Has Aisha been busy last night!

Aisha gets back from the Masjid, and decides to go for a swim. Of course, Aisha is pious, so she only swims in a full burkha. Heading down to the beach, she sees a gang of kafir dressed up in flags and drinking haraam beer. Oh Allah! Thus the wisdom of the laws of hijab and staying indoors!

So there is Aisha running along the beach with her burkha trailing behind her, while a gang of drunken yobs, carrying cricket bats and broken beer bottles are running (or should that be staggering) after her! Oh Allah, protect Aisha from the shaitaan! Aisha decides to confuse them, so she ducks behind an umbrella and sheds her burkha, and continues running dressed only in some lacy black lingerie that she bought for showing self to husband to get husband to "rise for salat", if you know what Aisha means!

Anyway, Aisha is running almost nekked down the beach, and what do you know, there is a gang of Muslim brothers! They start screaming that Aisha is an Aussie sharmuta and a whore and saying that they want to rape her! And Aisha screams that she is a pious Muslimah being chased by the kafir, but they do not listen. So Aisha runs onto the street and seeks refuge in a big building that thinks is a church.

Well, she looks around and there are people in friggin' yarmulkes and zionistish writing all over the joint! Aisha is in a Jew-Masjid! Oh Allah! Aisha feels so dirty! Nearly nekked and surrounded by lecherous old Jews. So she puts on one of those shawl things and runs home dressed as a Jew man! Allah! She will have to make sincere tawbeh for all of this!

Aisha feels like a drink now, but that would be haraam. She is just going to have a lie down and some quiet time with the Noble Quaran.

Allahu Akhbar!

Posted by: William The Crusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 2:50 PM

i wonder what the aborigines make of all this, white yobs and lebanese battling it out over land which both sides stole from them, the indigenous population?

Posted by: leom [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 2:53 PM

Gorkhali sez:

"..You still want me to come visit you in Australia? "

Sheik sez: Comon over baby, there's a whole lotta shakin' goin' on!


But on a serious note, the race card is the only crutch the pathetic leftist media has. The hysterical cry, like "please, please dear god, it must be racial, let it be racial, it can't possibly be anything but racial...tell it to the camera, its raaaace, raaaaaacccial!

I saw several reporters who would have done summersaults rather than even mention the word 'muslim' or 'Islam'-
very much like the strawman Jack Straw: "the alternative would be too horrible to contemplate...."

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 3:04 PM

It was a long time coming
http://www.fomi.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=18872&highlight=#18872

Posted by: shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 3:15 PM

ABC 13Dec05
Australian intifada. It's been a busy night:

[Muslim] Gangs rampage in Sydney streets

Residents of Cronulla have woken to more destruction in their streets this morning after another night of violence in Sydney's south.

Police say up to 25 car loads of people, mainly men of Middle Eastern appearance, arrived at north Cronulla late last night.

They rampaged through the streets, throwing bins through shop windows and damaging cars.

Residents in Cronulla say around 30 to 40 cars full of young men armed with baseball bats and crowbars drove through the suburb, smashing windows and denting panels on parked cars.

Shattered glass littered the ground in many surrounding streets.
Residents

A man says the group used baseball bats to smash car windows throughout the suburbs.

"We've heard stories - we don't know if all of it is true, but you only have to look at this street and every car has been hit," he said.

Another Cronulla resident had the windows of his car smashed and he has criticised what he sees as the slow response of police.

He says they should have been more prepared for last night's disturbance.

"Thirty and 40 cars don't just arrive in Cronulla unnoticed and especially, it's three to four minutes before there's any law enforcement," he said.

"There should have been a patrol mate, there should have been a patrol and this shouldn't have happened. This is ridiculous."

Another man says some of the group fired shots during the disturbance and that he also heard of a stabbing in the area.

"A whole bunch of Lebs have come through here and smashed up parked cars - they've shot at people, they've stabbed people," he said.

"We've seen a couple come past here - they just give us a smirk and keep driving, why - because we've got some numbers here, only a little bit, but mate they're not after us, they're after single people walking home."

Another Cronulla resident says the group was only in the area for a short time.

"Everyone was inside, virtually asleep and they came through with car loads and jumped out and threw shopping trolleys and bats through cars and that," he said.

Another man says he does not think locals will travel out of the area to retaliate but that people are prepared to fight if there is a repeat of last night's trouble.
'Turning point'

"This is the turning point right now. We don't want to hate Lebanese people or anything like that but if people are going to come around and show disrespect, we're going to stand up and fight right now," he said.

Another witness says the group caused a lot of damage but were only in the area for a short time.

"One of my mates had a shopping trolley thrown through the windscreen of their car and the sides of the door kicked in," he said.

He has described the rampage as cowardly.

"They should have come down here when we were all down here the other day," he said.

The damage was not restricted to Cronulla, with cars vandalised for a few kilometres along the main road out of the suburb and in neighbouring Caringbah a shop had its front window smashed.

In Brighton-Le-Sands, the crowds threw bricks and other objects at police cars and passing motorists on Grand Parade.

A number of cars and shops were damaged

Dozens of police in riot gear converged on the area and the crowd quickly dispersed.

There were also unconfirmed reports of gunshots.

Police say they arrested six people.

Earlier in the night there was a major police presence at Lakemba Mosque in Sydney's south-west, where a big crowd had gathered.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 3:50 PM

William:

That's brilliant.

Posted by: johnb [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 4:09 PM

Yet again, the Aussies are proving to all of us in Eurabia that the best Europeans left Centuries ago. It is about time that the
citizens of a Western Democracy stood up to be counted, where were the French when France was burning? no where to be seen. The World Media will do everything possible to paint the
Australian people as “racist scum”, while actively covering up the daily horrors commited World wide in the name of Islam.
From the reports which I’ve read the Muslims are even taking the American Democratic party line and blaming talk radio. If we really had an honest media we would not be in the mess we’re
in, Islam is flexing it’s old Jihadi muscles once again, and the response from the Worlds media is to blame everyone bar the muslims, as our liberal media just can’t get their heads around the true cause, which is Islamic Supremacy.

Best of luck in the World Cup Australia.
Waltzing Matilda. Waltzing Matilda.

Posted by: sul3j [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 4:27 PM

These must be dissafected "young people" who only want better jobs and feel frustrated by their lack of opportunities.

Do muslims have a dislike of cars the way they do of dogs? They seem to destroy an awful lot of them. Maybe this is what is really bothering them.

Posted by: GFB [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 4:29 PM

Borg, Lebanese got here via our very generous elected elite. Following the civil war in Lebanon many Lebanese were displaced. I can imagine that the UN approached our politicians and asked if we could help out by taking XXXX thousand. Other Lebanese chose to leave and start a new life.

Our politicians would have been complicit in all this. After all, there may have been an award in it or a chance to strut the international stage to the thunderous applause of an admiring international community.

Any vision of the inimicality of large scale immigration by muslims was blurred because all our politicians could see was the vision of them up there on the stage receiving some international award. And after all, it's not like our politicians have to live with these muslims. They are dumped into socially depressed areas and these areas then become consumed by inspissated hopelessness. Our politicians live in leafy suburbs well away from these canaille.

What's that you say? What of the future? When our politicians retire they slip off with a large bag of our cash and write their memoirs. None of them retire to live in Lakemba. And our politicians remain on the taxpayers' tit until dirt gets thrown on their coffin.

Do you know any country that needs a supply of totally useless self-serving vile politicians. I know where you can get plenty of them.

Posted by: Salad_In [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 4:33 PM

Aggressive and ugly behavior by Moslem Men towards Australian white women has been well chronicled over the years. So well chronicled, that even observers in America, the UK, and Europe have been aware of it.

My question is this: Where have adult Moslems been in all of this? Have they cracked down on their youth? Surely, Oz Imam after Oz Mufti after Oz Ayotallah have loudly protested this animalistic behavior.

Can any of you Aussies please steer me to all the self-criticism and hand-wringing the Moslems have put themselves through over all this rape and rape-intimidation perpetrated by their own?

PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH

Could it be that the Moslem authorities tacitly endorse such behavior? And why shouldn't they, given that such low-itensity Jihad has proved highly effective over the last 1,390 years.

Put another way, do "adult" Moslems exist in the Western sense of the word?

Posted by: Duke Eudes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 4:51 PM

The anti-Middle Eastern riot on Sunday was reprehensible. This is no way to fight the good fight against Muslim attempts to undermine our Western culture. Attacking people in the street simply because they look ME, or even if they really are, is a barbaric response to barbarism. We have to be better than that. We have to think as well as act.
Lefties like to talk about spurious root causes whenever their precious Muzzies perpetrate some outrage. Well, in this case there are some real root causes, so let’s look at them.
The anti-ME mob that rioted on Sunday certainly had racist elements within it, including some neo-Nazis, and there were probably a few who just wanted to enjoy a little recreational violence. But it’s also worth noting that the rioters did little property damage and used no weapons. There were no sexual assaults. On the other hand, the ME mobs that rioted in retaliation that evening and last night did a great deal of property damage, and used knives and, it’s reported, a few guns. They also sexually assaulted women. At least one man they happened to encounter on the street was stabbed.
Most of the anti-ME rioters were simply people fed up with years of intimidation by ME thugs -- intimidation designed to force non-Muslims off the beach -- and police inaction. They were trying to drive away the people who were doing the intimidation. If the MEs had used the beach like everyone else, that is, peacefully and with respect for other users, they would have had nothing against them. Ironically, to maintain the inclusiveness of the beach they had to exclude the would-be excluders.
Thus there is no equivalence between the two mobs, either in motive or methods.
This brings me to my main point, which has been studiously overlooked by politicians and media commentators: the intention of the ME thugs was, as I’ve said, to drive off non-Muslims and turn Cronulla beach into a Muslim precinct, just as they have turned Lakema into one. Hence the words shouted by the MEs who assaulted the lifesavers last week and thereby lit the fuse that lead to Sundays explosion: "Get off our beach. This is our beach. We own it." (Daily Telegraph, 6 December). Interestingly, one of the “innocent” MEs who was attacked by the mob on Sunday said afterwards: “It’s their beach today. Tomorrow it will be ours.” (Sydney Morning Herald 12 December, paper edition, not in the web edition). .
That these MEs choose to attack such a strong symbol of Australian popular culture as our lifesavers is also significant. In the first place it displays deliberate contempt for the host culture. In the second place, if the lifesavers were driven off, the beach would be unprotected, so many people would be reluctant to swim there, with the result that the pace of the non-Muslims exodus from the beach, already underway, would accelerate. Eventually a critical mass would be reached and non-Muslims would stop going there altogether. So it makes good strategic sense for MEs to target lifesavers if they want to clear the beach of non-Muslims.
You might say this ME talk of the beach being “ours” is just gang braggadocio and the whole business of ME intimidation is just a gang turf fight. It’s possible, but the Muslim mentality, Muslim history, the Muslim attitude towards non-Muslims, and the Muslim track record in Australia points to an altogether more sinister motive. In that respect, you’ll note that even an “innocent” Muslim claimed that the beach “will be ours tomorrow”. Obviously he’s not referring to a gang when he said “ours” because he wasn’t part of one, so who is he referring to? I don’t think I need to give you three guesses. And yes, there is an overlay of gangster criminality where many of these young men are concerned; but below that deeper currents are flowing, which we ignore at our peril.

Posted by: Herb K [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 5:08 PM

Well I am another Sydney resident (north-west) and yes I have a fe things to say about what is happening here.

To answer one query regarding the attitude of the Muslim adults: they support the actions of their sons - in the case against 4 brothers for the rape of a young Australian girl, their doctor Pakistani father said she deserved to be raped.

To those who have commented upon the Christian Lebanese, all I can say is that this is also correct more or less in Australia. They have never presented the problem presented by their counterparts.

Anyone who watches SBS knows of a particular series that pokes fun at Lebanese. It is a very good characterization of what we are witnessing today, except the characters in that series are more or less stupid (and mostly Christian ;-))

Recently I met a woman who is of Armenian origin (lovely people) who had grown up in Lebanon. She spoke of her own feeling of terror by doing something as simple as working near the suburb of Auburn.

The trouble in Little China (er I mean Cronulla, Maroubra, Brighton le Sands etc) has been experienced in other north western suburbs but on a different scale. Over recent years the Castle Towers shopping centre has been the target of the same kind of people - we have to say they are of Middle Eastern origin and not that they are Lebanese. It was quite common for them to attack white Australian youths and to steal their money and cell phones. My own sons were attacked but they fought back and did not lose their phones - they reported the incident to the police. Our police at Castle Hill do a good job but their task is being frustrated because of legistlated political correctness. We are not allowed to call a spade, a spade, we must call it a shovel.

I have been writing about this subject on Hyscience and I will be attempting to cover it in more depth, taking into account the failure of the police to stop the latest in a string of Islamic attacks upon the kaffir of Sydney.

Posted by: Maggie4Life [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 5:47 PM

In a recent article in the Daily Telegraph AU, John Howard is quoted as stating that he doesn't believe that Australians are racist.
He is right, most AUSTRALIANS aren't, but muslims aren't even Australian. How could any muslim consider assimilation into Australian society as desirable?
What could possibly motivate them to lower themselves to the level of pigs, dogs, urine, feces, and, oh BTW, non-muslims? Unless it be taqiya or true apostasy?
Any so called "moderate" muslims might not actively participate in killings and bombings, but like the so called "moderate" Germans in Nazi Germany, they will continue to support evil with their pocketbook and by not lifting a finger against it - either because they are to afraid to speak or act out against it, or because in their heart they really do support it, but are too cowardly to actually join in. In either case, they are cowards and are despicable.
Actions speak louder than words, if there are any "moderate" muslims out there, you need to start turning in your terrorist brothers, refusing hate mongers access to your mosques, protesting against muslim persecution of non-muslims, etc.
What have you been waiting for?
I will continue to NOT hold my breath.

Posted by: InfidelK9 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 5:49 PM

I wasn't kidding:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17536277%255E601,00.html

This is what polit-props do:
They want to be seen doing 'something' and most of the time they are shooting themselves in the foot. This is one bleeding example of incompetence and stupidity...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 5:55 PM

Two interesting articles:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17546011%255E7583,00.html


http://www.arabnews.com/?page=10§ion=0&article=74311&d=12&m=12&y=2005

Posted by: Silvester [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 6:34 PM

True to form, our media in the UK is reporting this as white neo Nazi thugs trashing everything. Al-Beebieceera only showed the most thuggish people they could film. Fortunately, I read a link on this site a while back from a report by a police officer about Lebanese gangs and the low level violence and problems they have been causing for years particularly for women, so know something about the background to this - facts which are not being reported in our media. If it were Islamists rioting it would be reported as "disaffected" youth. It doesn't matter how much they brainwash though, so many of us are seeing through the hogwash we're fed on a daily basis.

Posted by: londongirl [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 7:00 PM

Because of his uncompromising stand on "boat people"(who all paid 10k $US to get here) I always had a soft spot for Ruddock as the one flash of light in an otherwise disgusting pile of crap. But this announcement really shows just how litle he or his staff understand the problem and this really scares me. Anger management for fanatics? They will die from laughing only.

I cannot totally understand just why the OZ authorities are so scared of placing the blame where it belongs and has for so long. Are we so desperate for overseas exports that we can prostitute our values for these scum?

BTW the 2 main areas of conversion work by Islam in OZ are our gaols and our aboriginal poulation where they can expect to find more of the disaffected. Expect some homegrown homicidal bombers soon.

Posted by: Zathras [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 7:06 PM

The New Symbol for the NSW State and Federal Governments:

The government today announced that it is changing its national symbol to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance.
A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed.
Damn, it just doesn't get more accurate than that

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 7:39 PM

3rdTimeLucky:

That sounds like it fits perfectly. Except that it doesn't toe the appeasement line that Premier Iemma seems to be taking...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3340611.stm

The umbrella Somali Ulema Council has said it will use Sharia (Islamic) Law, including flogging, to punish those selling or using condoms.

Posted by: AngryMuppet [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 7:46 PM

Angry Muppet - it's a moot point. Haven't you read the Islamo-facist websites which say that no Islamic countries have HIV as they have superior moral values? (you know - like temporary wives instead of prostitution?!). Besides they need to breed kids so that they can become "refugees" and be dumped into Australia (it keeps the UN in business - you know, do nothing, move people to free democractic countries to weaken them), so that they can blow us up, rape our women, steal, kill etc etc

Besides the Muslims already hate our flag. Lets face it, it has what, three British crosses, and the southern cross - no crescent moons (yet). Truely an offensive flag.

Even if the Aussie rioters didn't know about Islam, it would have really got up the Muslim's noses that they were attacked by people drapped in a flag full of crosses. Very offensive!!!

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 7:56 PM

Maybe NSW should change the emblem to a Crescent moon, make it law to make pilgrimage to Mecca, cover all women from head to toe etc etc.

Yes, that would keep the politically correct happy, and the Muslims - as for the rest of us, well, what do they care??

Could you imagine if some polly (aka PIG - Politcian Indulging Greatly)had his family attacked by the religion of peace?? I bet all their "Islam is Peace" crap would fly out the window!

Anyway I just had an urge to write a letter to my local front bencher over this!!

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 8:03 PM

3rdTimeLucky:
I don't really care if people are offended by the Australian flag, if they want to enjoy the lifestyle there are things they MUST accept.

As far as the HIV issue I cant remember seeing anyone be so naive to say that no Islamic country has the problem due to moral superiority. I'm sure I would have remembered the fits of laughter that would have produced.

I have seen many reports saying how it was Isael's/America's fault. Deliberately contaminated vaccines in africa and infected prostitues being sent into gaza and the like.

Posted by: AngryMuppet [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 8:06 PM

Regardless how the PC politicians and police commissioner tries to spin this event, it happened because of their inaction. They basically abandoned law-abiding, decent citizenry to these lawless savages for YEARS! Yes, the Cronulla riots turned stupid and ugly and embarrassing. Disgraceful! But what is even more disgraceful is the police force being neutered into a wussy little social worker service by self-serving PC politicians who put priority into getting the Muslim vote, not law and order for everybody.

Muslim thugs do what they do because they know they can get away with it. Premier Iemma is the member for Lakemba where likely most of the thugs hail from. He's talking the tough talk about going after the stupid, drunken hoons of the weekend, but where was that tough talk during the YEARS of abuse, intimidation and violence by the Muslim thugs????

Dozens of baton-waving cops on the weekend, yet a handful only while Muslim thugs smashed cars and terrorised neighbourhoods for two nights. Two arrested were let go right away! It's racism alright - racism BY Muslims to Australians, and politicians helping this along.

Muslims hate non-Muslims and when they are not reined in by somebody, they demonstrate that hatred freely and constantly. And that's what's happening thanks to the Labor government. The Labor govt loves their power more than the people. All politicians are like that, but Labor is particularly disgusting. Yet time and time again, the people vote these bastards in. What can you do?

Posted by: feralee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:31 PM

I've had an Aussie radio station on all day and the hosts quickly moved on when anyone talked about the muslim violence over the years that led to these riots but let anyone who said they were Lebanese talk about how this has nothing to do with islam and it's just a few out of control youth, not real practicing muslims and so on until he thanked them for calling and he talked condescending about those critical of islam with them. Every third call was a muslim and the hosts kept them on twice as long as the other callers. So I guess I know who the radio guys agree with.
As for my news people, the riots were not even mentioned by two stations and the third said the riots were "started on Sunday by white Australian's fueled by alcohol who went looking for middle eastern people to attack." No mention of the initial beach happenings at all.

So, it's official, it's all the white Aussie's fault. So sit down and stop complaining already. It's only a coincidence that this is happening all around the world, don't you know...

And the muslims are getting their way at least partly since alcohol will apparently be banned... they win again...

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:56 PM

What we can do is to continue to let those in power know that we are fed up with the lack of policing for a start. Maybe they will start to do more to keep the situation under control which, while not addressing the 'root' problems at least will allieviate the fear spreading through the community.

Behaving in a violent or abusive manner as on Sunday does not help. As mentioned today the NSW parliament is holding an emergency sitting to introduce new powers for police to help with riots.... now they will be able to force pubs to close rather than just asking nicely.

Absolutely ridiculous, drunken louts vs. gangs with clubs and guns. I mean, which group would you prefer them to be cracking down on?

Posted by: AngryMuppet [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:57 PM

"It was clearly Australian people victimising another ethnic group. It shows that there is underlying racism running deeply in the Australian psyche.(Australian)people have really let loose their inherent racism and violence … The only thing I am worried about is that it's going to further play on the minds of young Australian Muslims. It's going to lower the morale which has already been lowered. They are young Australians who don't have a sense of belonging."
The founder of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, said talkback radio programs and some newspapers had presented a youth problem as a race issue. "The attack on the lifeguards was just wayward youths behaving badly, but they [some media] escalated that to a racist issue."
He said yesterday's "mob behaviour was absolutely outrageous and un-Australian".

Notice how all the blame is sheeted home to Aussies, and all the sympathy is with these community leaders' own demoralised little angels. Trad suggests lebs bashing aussies is NOT racist; Seyit says aussie retaliation IS racist. Media management teamwork? The SMH swallows this stuff, it makes me barf. After every Islamo terrorist atrocity, Muzzie spokesmen come out with the ambiguous "Islam condemns the killing of innocents" followed by the usual concerns about a "backlash" against the Muslim community. Their concern is solely with their own and they share no blame.
The actions of the Cronulla locals are unnacceptable, but understandable. Unfortunately, I do not believe that "Cronulla" is an anti-jihad. It was a reaction to ME lads from Punchbowl who roll up on the train (without a towel) and intimidate the locals; and if a gang of muzzies beat up life-savers you can bet they're not there for a swim in the ocean! Call it "jihad for wimps". Unfortunately, even though the muzzies started it, the locals have given them an "excuse" for escalating "pay-back" rampage, and this is what is going on - at night.

Sydney is a rough old town and has had riots in Redfern and Macquarie Fields. During the Paris riots, I thought "this CAN happen here!" Hold on to your butts, fellow Aussies.

The saddest thing is the plight of Christian lebs and other non-muzzies in all this. I have a Greek-heritage friend who lives in the area; he is afraid to go out in daytime (because Aussies might think he's leb)and can't go out at night because muzzies are smashing everyone/thing.

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 9:57 PM

Angry - I read it on a Canadian Islamic Web site (I think)./ Here is my letter to a front bencher pollie:

13.12.2005

Dear XXX

Over the last 48 hours I have had the “joys” of witnessing the latest round of Multi-culturalism in Sydney, with you guessed it, the “Religion of Peace” playing a central role!

So how long will it be before Sydney has a “orange Multi-cultural glow” about it like Paris? Yes I know XXX, this has nothing to do with religion, that the “Middle eastern” youths are just "disadvantaged", "oppressed", while the “white” rioters are “fascist” “racist” etc, and that this has nothing to do with the 1 out of every 55 hate and war verses all through the Koran.

I know XXX, you have told me before that many a Muslim has contributed to Australian society – something I am still waiting for you to give me examples on (keeping the Police and ASIO in jobs doesn’t count). Besides, I don’t care so much about what Muslims do as opposed to what Islam says. There were peaceful Nazi’s who never shot at our diggers XXX, it’s the ideology that matters.

So this is the Multi-cultural Utopia that successive governments have created (starting with Gough Whitlam) which my little kid will grow up in. Give my regards to Paul Cheating(Keating) if you ever see him, I know he had a lot to do with it all, as did cry baby Hawke(buy him a box of tissues for me), oh and that turncoat, Malcom Fraser, and that you guys in government now have to deal with it. But rather than dealing with it, your government encourages it for fear of being branded "racist" by those who don't even vote
for you!

Please don’t forget the Christian Lebanese when the government announces additional taxpayer handouts (Jizya) and ‘positive’ discrimination to these ‘oppressed’, ‘discriminated’ Lebanese Islamic youth. Or doesn’t the Christian Lebanese count as they haven’t caused any trouble and they have managed to ‘fit in’ with our society? Maybe if the Christian Lebanese came out of their churches screaming ‘Allu Akbar’ and then going on a rampage they’d qualify
(like the Lekemba Mosque Lebanese youths)? A Lebanese is a Lebanese aren’t they? Or to be “oppressed”, and “discriminated” against etc you have to be a “Muslim” Lebanese who expects Aussie’s to change for them? This was about race wasn’t it, after all religion has nothing to do with it? Right? Or is Islam suddenly a race? How do you tell a Christian Lebanese from a Muslim Lebanese? Let’s not discriminate! (in Lebanon it’s easy to tell the difference, the Christian one’s are often looking down the barrel of an AK47 by a perpetrator of the Religion of Peace).

I suppose I’m in the wrong bringing my child up to love Australia and be Australian. After all, we are supposed to be Multi-cultural, not Australian. But I am proud to be Australian, and my daughter will be to. Please don’t report me to the Politically Correct Thought Police for having thoughts and acts of patriotism. They will have me in court in a ‘wiff’ like Daniel Scot in Victoria. I am aware that we no longer have freedom of speech. I am Australian, not "multi-cultural".

In short, as your last letter to me praised indiscriminate Multi-culturalism over being “Dinki Di”, I hope the politicians who feel this way are proud of this future and present Utopia that they have helped to create for my child. I would imagine that by the time she grows up, Brisbane will be like Sydney today, full of “ethnic” er, Islamic violence and flames. I know the Cronulla riots do not really concern politicians at any level as they don’t live there, so I don’t expect them to care.

A big “thankyou” goes to the successive Australian governments for multi-cultural Australia, oh, and giving me a Balkans experience that I never asked for, nor had the chance to vote on. It could be reversed by insisting that whoever comes here adopts our ways, or only import cultures and religions that have a proven peaceful co-existence within our borders, and a change to our educational institutions to be proud of Australian culture rather than
"multi-cultural", but that would be racist wouldn’t it??

3x

PS Here is a Religion of Peace verse, wishing us infidels a happy Christm…. er Festive ‘Winter’ Season:
JIZYA
The poll-tax or rather "protection money" that has to be paid by the DHIMMIS under Islamic rule:
Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and his messenger have forbidden - such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the book - until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled
(humiliated). Surah al-Baqara 9:29


Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:10 PM

There Aussies have finally said enough is enough. I don't neccesarliy support the mob mentality of the "riots" but what would anybody in their situation do? People are fed up with being harassed, physically attacked, robbed and raped by men of "Middle Eastern" origin. The Aussie are probably feeling that if the police and the government are unwilling to protect them then they are left with with no choice to put a stop to muslim aggression themselves.

Posted by: WineDrinkingInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:10 PM

islamophobic pride - I have been listening to the John Laws show all day - John Laws is away - and they have this poofy limp wristed 'Tim Webster" - who gives heaps of air time to Muslims and the traitorous apoligisers - and then he writes off all anti-Islam people as being intolerant.

One Muslim girl rang up and insisted that Islam is peace - these rioters have "hijacked" Islam etc etc etc And Tim Webster agreed with her.

As if some radio jock actually knows ANYTHING about the tenants of Islam. I wrote in - but I doubt he will read it.

How I wish John Laws would be back. When he is on air, for some reason there is many more infidel callers as opposed to Muslim one's. I never knew so many Muslims listened to John Laws. I hope he sacks Tim Webster (he is some tosser personality on Channel Ten).

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:28 PM

Oh - I also didn't realise that so many French Muslims listen to Australian radio jocks??

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:30 PM

3rd ~ agreed, that explains a lot.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:35 PM

Muslims involved in riots in Sydney
Muslims involved in riots in Paris
Well just before Paris we had this incident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4367654.stm
Now there is a little twist to this one,can we call blacks racist?

I will agree that racism is evil,but there is an evil far worse than racism,and it bears the name of Islam

Posted by: shiva [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:41 PM

Hmm what will be the end result of this emergency meeting of the NSW parliament. Well to maintain order in this New Age Multi-Cultural Indiscriminate All Roads Lead to Heaven Utopia will be more laws, more taxes to “protect” us.

Yes the Lawyer Politicians couldn’t have thought up a better way of curtailing our rights and freedoms. And the pollies sad, “Long Live Indiscriminate Multi-culturalism, now where is my Saudi pay cheque?”

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:46 PM

Hows this - the Optus Web page has said NOTHING about the riots for the last two days. Their first story...

National News


Police probe attack on Perth family
© ABC 2005
More Photos


Police probe attack on Perth family
11:15 AM December 13

Western Australian police in Perth are investigating an attack by a group of young men against a family of Middle Eastern background.

The 42-year-old man and his wife and six children have lived in the Kewdale area for eight months.

Police spokesman Ian Hazelby says eggs were thrown at the family's home and the garage door was kicked in about 9:30pm AWST yesterday.

"They've also began yelling abuse at him and his family and he's saying to police he's been living in the area for about eight months, he's never had any trouble before and he's rather aghast that something like this could be happening in Perth, Western Australia," the spokesman said.

"It might have some sort of connotation to what's been going on in Cronulla, Sydney."

Ramdas Sankaran from the Ethic Communities Council of Western Australia is calling for calm.

"As long as it remains an isolated incident I suppose we've got every reason to be calm and not be unduly perturbed," he said.

Police want anyone with information to come forward.


Source: ABC


But hey, what would you expect from a Singaporean owned company sourcing it's news from the Australian ABC. Pity they never mentioned much about the gang rapes/ lifesaver beatings etc in Australia.

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:51 PM

"The 42-year-old man and his wife and six children have lived in the Kewdale area for eight months"

I wonder who is paying for the kids, him or me?

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 10:52 PM

Borg - try listening to 4BC this afternoon (it's now 2.00pm here - in one hour a new host comes on and he was very different to the limp wristed Tim Wanker.

I listened to Dean Miller on 4BC yesterday afternoon. He had some of the Bra Boys ringing up and saying what happened from their perspective. That traitor (was he ever Australian) Kasyer Trad was to ring up but he chickened out.

The very last caller on his show was great. He said how his wonderful good Christian Lebanese friend told him about what went on in Lebanon, and who "Islam is bad news".

The program then finished. Heaps better than the censored Tim Webster who is destroying the John Laws Show. Muslims came on and were quickly rebuffed by other callers. The show at 3.00pm is a local Brisbane show. So many callers who were Aussie's rang up to explain that the reason they left Sydney was to get away from Islam, and bring their kids up in peace. It was good stuff and I hope heaps were listening.

One caller rang up about Kasyer Trad from the Islamic Friendship Association, who was also a mate of Dean Miller, who welcomed him warmly. Then out of the blue the caller said, "kayser trad, Islamic Friendship Assoc., isn't that an oxymoron?"

Dean Miller: "What do you mean oxymoron?"

Caller: "That Islam and friendship go together!"

Brilliant!

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:05 PM

You want to see a picture of what Muslim men do to nonMuslim women, go to Fjordman.

In living, bleeding, color.

Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:11 PM

The Islamic Beachboys – to the tune of Let’s Go Surfing Now (well it’s only a matter of time before they say the Beach Boys were Islamic!)

Let’s go bashing now,
Infidel bashing now
Come on everybody, Allah be pleased!

There’s a hot infidel
She’s a peace of meat
No Burka lets rape her
Listen to her bleat

Bash the life guards
Bash the young and bash the old
It’s OK ‘cause we’ve been told

Let’s go bashing now,
Infidel bashing now
Come on everybody, Allah be pleased!

It’s been awhile since I listened to the Beach Boys – feel free to finish off my Islamic version!

Posted by: 3rdtimelucky [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:16 PM

I've been listening to Radio 2GB. You can listen to it online: http://2gb.com/

This station has more REAL talkback and commentary and is not stifled by PC. The early morning show is very good, but Drive with Jim Ball in the afternoon is best.

After the lifeguard bashing incident, people finally had enough and started venting, started telling the world the truth. I heard it on the radio, I read it in the letters to the editor. It was shocking. These were victims, living in fear of thugs who are mollycoddled by our disgusting PC judiciary.

The Parliament was recalled and gave cops lots of nice powers - but BIG DEAL! It won't matter squat if the judges keep tossing those criminals (some with 30+ convictions already) onto the streets right away. Parliament should have tossed out all the judges and put some with balls on the bench. People are tired of this!

Posted by: feralee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2005 11:20 PM

Australians, educated and train those brave 5,000 let them be the core of the struggle to liberate your country from the Islamic invasion.

Remember you are not alone! the rest of the non-Muslim world is behind you in this fight against Jihad.

Australians, fight for your right to be free.... many in New York support you!

Australians, those who know the truth about the Islamic threat know that it is ludicrous to shout racism when this is not a matter of race but Islam.

Australians, fight back... vote.... deport those who don't respect your country.

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 12:47 AM

El Cid:
Thanks for your words of support but you must realise that the 5000 strong mob was not a great representation of Australia or of the correct attitude to have.

The sentiment shown throughout the majority of the day was great and I believe that is was you meant. I believe that the minority of alcohol-fuelled yobbos that indiscrimantly attacked innocent people, police and ambulance officer were not that much better than those that attacked the life guards.

However, the mainly peaceful majority that were simply showing support for their country, waving flags etc are a true representation of what we need.

And you are absolutely correct that this is not about race. But when people can hardly spell their name let pay attention to world events they be can be somewhawt blinkered. If the see 'Lebs' causing trouble then the problem is 'Lebs'. Politicians and media should know better.

Posted by: AngryMuppet [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:02 AM

Aussie posters, glad to have you with us.

This is a battle between two nations: Australia versus Islam. (Let's see. We have France vs Islam, Britain vs Islam, U.S. vs Islam, India vs Islam, Israel vs Islam, Dennmark vs Islam, Sweden vs Islam, Russia vs Islam...anyone starting to see a trend?).

From what I've read, it appears that multi-culturalism works fairly well in Australia, except when Islam is introduced into the mix. Islam will not tolerate any other way of life. Their "holy book" and their clerics tell them to hate the non-Muslims, act hard against the non-Muslims, separate from the non-Muslims, the non-Muslims are "unclean" and the "worst beasts", etc., etc. Many (not all) of their young people are taught that their nationality is "Muslim". That's where their loyalties lie.

BTW Aussies, if anyone calls you racist for defending your country, show them this list of insults from the Koran to show who the real bigots are. Circulate it freely.

Koran's List of Insults Against All Non-Muslims.

Disbelievers (non-Muslims): are “worst of created beings” (98:6), are “miscreants” (2:99, 24:55), are the worst beasts in Allah’s sight (8:55); (Christians and/or Jews are) turned into “apes and/or pigs” (2:65-66, 5:58-60, 7:166); (idolaters are) unclean (9:28); “evil” is upon them (16:27), evil (2:91, 2:99); “wicked” (80:42, 9:125); the “wrong-doers” (42:45, 2:254, 5:45); evil-doers (42:44); are “guilty” for disbelieving (45:31, 83:29); on the side of the devil (Satan) and are fighting for him (4:76-77); of the party of Satan (58:19); Allah assigns them devils for protecting friends (7:27); they choose devils for protecting friends (7:30); are partisan against Allah (25:55); “enemy” and “perverted” (63:4); disgraced lives (22:9); hypocrites (4:61); have a “diseased heart” (2:10, 9:125); are ill (84:20); deaf, dumb, and blind, and have no sense (2:171); deaf and dumb and in darkness, Allah sends them astray (6:39); have no sense (5:103); a folk who do not understand (9:127); their fathers were unintelligent and had no knowledge or guidance (2:170, 5:104); are “a folk without intelligence”/ “most ignorant” (8:65, 6:111); losers who are deceived by Allah (2:6), and deceived by Satan (4:60); liars/they lie (2:10, 9:42, 16:39, 16:105, 59:11) “losers” (7:179); foolish and liars (7:66), liars and losers (58:18-19), false pride and schism (38:2).


Koran: How Muslims' Should Treat Non-Muslims.

Muslims must __________ the non-Muslims: fight/oppose/shun/strive against/regard as the enemy/never help/never befriend/sever family ties with/never compromise with/never obey/never forgive/chastise/curse/be ruthless toward/be stern toward/etc. 3:118; 3:28, 3:56; 3:87-88, 4:50, 4:63, 4:101, 4:139-140, 4:144, 5:54, 5:57, 8:65, 9:14, 9:23, 9:29, 9:73-74, 9:123, 25:52, 28:86, 31:7, 33:48, 45:7-8, 48:28-29, 53:29, 58:5, 58:22, 60:1, 60:4, 60:10, 60:13, 63:6, 66:9, 68:8-9, 76:24, 84:24. Note that the “never help” (28:86) command means that Muslims’ good works are limited to helping other Muslims or to otherwise pursuing Islam’s interests. 60:4 says followers of Allah will hate the disbelievers forever until they believe in Allah only.

4:144 "Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves?"



Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:03 AM

This hard-core Islamist, Kurunda Seyit, cares nothing about Australia. Yes Seyit, it's everyone else's fault, isn't it?

See my above post to see the insults and hatred Seyit holds toward non-Muslims, which he hides behind his back, while crying "racism! racism!" Of course, he could always apologize and reject all of those Koranic verses...sure, hell get right on that.

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:17 AM

Thanx, Archimedes! I will email your list to ALL my friends!

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:25 AM

3rdtimelucky,

The reason Tim Webster has been bending over backwards to accomodate the PC line is that Kaiser Trad and Channel 7 deliberately misrepresented him as promoting the Sunday "riots".
They apparently showed him making statements out of context etc.

So, since then he is a willing flustered dhimmi.

I don't think he knows he has been deliberately manipulated.
Islam can be pretty slick when it comes to lying and hatred.. I guess they have a master of those vices on their Allah (aka Satan)...so it follows.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:33 AM


Charles Branson in Death Wish:

I have never thought that this soon would Muslim gangs do this much urban mayhem in the West. These events make me recall with some nostalgia a scene with Charles Branson standing on a fire-exit staircase holding a chain-fed 30 cal. machine-gun and letting the rapist thugs have it. It is surreal that this is happening in a non-post-apocalyptic “Mad Max” type of world.

However, I do not doubt that most of you Aussies who do not like vigilantism were cheering Branson as he mowed down the evil thugs… Nothing would give some that are severely victimized by Islam more satisfaction than mowing down gangs of psychopathic murderous rapist Islamic Jihadis. I do not care what these thoughts make me. My people have suffered a full blown genocide for the last 1390 years for not fault of their own other than military weakness. Also, my family has suffered dearly for the sins of being Christian, relatively well-off, and educated amid a sea of Muslim resentment and envy.

I do not understand why anti-Muslim vigilantism is not more wide-spread in the face of intolerable provocations and in the absence of justice or protection of the law. I know that if this happened even in my overwhelmingly ultra-liberal White neighborhood, I would get with the old-timers and the few red-blooded men left and do something…. May be if caught off-guard by the scale of the Muslim riot and our lack of suitable weapons, then I assure you the next time that this would start again, many Muslim punks will not be going back to their tent-clad mamas.

Posted by: have_mercy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:51 AM

Kuranda Seyit, Keysar Trad, Irfan Yusuf, etc., etc., all these talking heads from the Muslim community - not one of them accept one iota of responsibility for this violence in Sydney. They ALL blame Australia, Australians, John Howard, whoever and whatever, but NEVER the criminal actions of the Muslim Lebanese thugs that has been going on for YEARS. I'm spitting mad at all the crap I've read, and heard, from these so-called "community leaders".

But then that's part of the plan, isn't it? They're all here to subvert our society and the best way to do that is claim victim status, and this way they can then start demanding protection, favours, & concessions. This gives them more power over us. Bit by bit, like parasites feeding off the host until they consume it.

Posted by: feralee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 2:56 AM

Feralee:

"...Premier Iemma is the member for Lakemba where likely most of the thugs hail from. He's talking the tough talk about going after the stupid, drunken hoons of the weekend, but where was that tough talk during the YEARS of abuse, intimidation and violence by the Muslim thugs????"

Iemma: A whore for the (Muslim) vote, no less.
Poof pooof pooof..... hopeless!

Ken Moron-ey
(I am not joking:
The Police Commissioner!) emphasis on 'moron',- doesn't get it:

Its race, raaaace, raaace! It just has to be raaaacce! He 'will get tough' on those louts'- he will shut the licensed premises down, alcohol is to blame, its the gangs, the Nazis, 'young people' , you know, and anyhow, it is so much easier to go after white people...' (they don't stab the police with knifes...) SICK!!!

The hysterical stupidity of the traitors in the media, the cowards who are hiding behind microphones and can't get themselves to even whisper the word "ISLAM" or " Muslims", and the despicable creep, TV-personality Keyzar Trad: What goes around comes around!

The Auzzies may be disarmed, but we are not neutered.
Our day will come!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 5:26 AM

Just in case you missed it:

Several churches in Sydney were shot up, police found multiple rounds in the vicinity...

Meanwhile, David Hicks can be released from Gitmo because his mother is british born. If Britain gives him a passport he is free to walk...

I don't get it, but hey... Allah is all knowing and merciful...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 6:03 AM

...Allah is mighty...mad!
Keysar Trad must be watched very closely..like you watch a headed cobra.. do not blink..

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 6:15 AM

hooded, not headed, hooded

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 6:18 AM

May the hooded cobra of islam be beheaded!

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 6:20 AM

So is there going to be another anti-leb/muslim demo at nulla this Sunday or what? If though we should get down there and wave the flag. Perhaps 10,000 will turn up this time.

I was very near Brighton today (Rockdale about 1 km away from there) at 7 pm it was totally quiet. Australians are now afraid even to take a stroll in their own city! For the first time in Sydney's 200+ year history perhaps.

A train passed by - all the carriages were empty! I saw a few old guys going for a walk - they conveniently had walkingsticks as thick as pickaxe handles! Text messages are now going out amongst the Islamic community for the "lions of Lebanon" to go on the rampage. A young Aussie mother was surrounded by sneering Arab thugs who threatened to bash and rape her. She fled in her car, only to find that they followed her back to her house afterwards. Some guy putting out his garbage in the front of his house was set upon by Muslims and had to be taken to hospital - this happened in view of his 10 year old son!

This is the gratitude we get from Muslims for letting them settle here. They are rats. We offer them shelter within our great country, and their contributions are terrorism, rapes, riots and criminal gangs. The politicians that allowed them over should be hung for treason.

Mass deportation is the only solution.

Bulldoze the mosques!

No Islam - Know Peace!

Posted by: Timbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 7:10 AM

AFrom a poster on another forum I visit: Adding to peoples frustrations is that many Lebanese youths associate with American hiphop culture - including the race rage slavery has left us with. However, the Lebanese were welcomed into Australia as war refugees, not taken there as slaves, so a responsive anger towards a perceived unjustified anger is the response. (If anything, the convicts were the slaves equivalent.)

Posted by: morguerat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 8:22 AM

Fadi Abdelrahman, an islamic youth counselor, smiling for the news 7 camera at the Lakemba mosque, says the unrest at the beach was because they "feel superior to the Anglos and because of hatred towards the western world".

An islamic supremacist. Telling the way it is. For the news cameras. For all to see. Is anybody listening?


watching the Borg
~ listening too

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 8:45 AM

a poster above said

"The "chip on the shoulder" attitude demonstrated by many Muslim men"

Very well said. I've been thinking about exactly the same phrase. Islamists seem to have a conveniently loose hold on a very precarious chip.

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:09 AM

AngryMuppet, thanks for the kind words and explanation, I didn't condone the random violence against people that look Middle eastern- I look Middle Eastern myself, although I am a christian who's ancestors fought the Moors in Spain. I might have been caught up in something if I were walking the street. But my experience in Australia was of great respect.

This is not a race thing, people of all races are victims of Islamic aggression and repression.

What has all the ant-Jihad world a buzz, over the events in your country, was that finally after relentless assault by muslim minorities all over the world, their was a push back; granted it was a little over the top, but as far as I can see no property damage was done by the Aussie youth and no bloody assaults or deaths were reported.

By Muslim and world standards this does not compare to the murders committed in the name of Islam or the cars burned in France.

If I were in Australia I would carry a big Aussie flag so that I would not be confused with the Muslims who have terrorized your country for so long.

Bravo for the guts the Aussies have shown, they are brave country.

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:09 AM

AngryMuppet, thanks for the kind words and explanation, I didn't condone the random violence against people that look Middle eastern- I look Middle Eastern myself, although I am a christian who's ancestors fought the Moors in Spain. I might have been caught up in something if I were walking the street. But my experience in Australia was of great respect.

This is not a race thing, people of all races are victims of Islamic aggression and repression.

What has all the ant-Jihad world a buzz, over the events in your country, was that finally after relentless assault by muslim minorities all over the world, their was a push back; granted it was a little over the top, but as far as I can see no property damage was done by the Aussie youth and no bloody assaults or deaths were reported.

By Muslim and world standards this does not compare to the murders committed in the name of Islam or the cars burned in France.

If I were in Australia I would carry a big Aussie flag so that I would not be confused with the Muslims who have terrorized your country for so long.

Bravo for the guts the Aussies have shown, they are brave country.

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:09 AM

AngryMuppet, thanks for the kind words and explanation, I didn't condone the random violence against people that look Middle eastern- I look Middle Eastern myself, although I am a christian who's ancestors fought the Moors in Spain. I might have been caught up in something if I were walking the street. But my experience in Australia was of great respect.

This is not a race thing, people of all races are victims of Islamic aggression and repression.

What has all the ant-Jihad world a buzz, over the events in your country, was that finally after relentless assault by muslim minorities all over the world, their was a push back; granted it was a little over the top, but as far as I can see no property damage was done by the Aussie youth and no bloody assaults or deaths were reported.

By Muslim and world standards this does not compare to the murders committed in the name of Islam or the cars burned in France.

If I were in Australia I would carry a big Aussie flag so that I would not be confused with the Muslims who have terrorized your country for so long.

Bravo for the guts the Aussies have shown, they are brave country.

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:09 AM

Zathras

Thanks for that "chip on shoulder" comment (above).

Also,

"We, by being tolerant towards an intolerant group are simply gearing up for a future Australian version of what France has recently experienced."

This captures the nature of the problem

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:18 AM

Salad_In

Good story. Everyone who has seen this kind of harrassment should report it to the media, police, appropriate government departments, etc. The public-relations Islamists are waging a concerted media campaign deliberately targetting white Australians. The mainstream media, due to erroneous PC-ideology, are complicit ‘useful idiots’ in helping the Islamists. All non-Muslims, regardless of ethnic background, colour, etc., should report these abuses.

Mike W,

“The talk-back radio is inundated with Muslims...”
“The Muslims seem very well organized...”

We need to be organized too. Get petitions, lodge formal complaints against these media outlets that are allowing/promoting this bias. News coverage in Australia that is indistinguishable from that of al-Jazeera’s is absolutely unacceptable. Withdraw, and encourage others to withdraw, their business (e.g., advertising) from media outlets that don’t report the facts. Tell your local politicians; lobby them clearly and forcefully. Do not elect any politician anywhere who is unwilling to acknowledge the problem. Do not elect anyone who would be such a traitor as to blame the 5000 ordinary Australians for this situation. Circulate the facts about how intolerant Islam really is. Shame the Islamists utterly, because they deserve it, and because they need to be exposed. Christian and other religious officials should put pressure on the Islamists. Atheist and freethinkers groups should not waste time attacking Judeo-Christianity but should focus on Islam—you know, that ‘religion’ that calls for the killing, conversion or subjugation of all non-Muslims. These aggressive bigoted Islamists should not be allowed to use 21st century multicultural tolerance to promote their unrefined intolerant 7th century program of religious imperialism, apartheid, and misogyny.

duh swami,

“They ran out of the mosque shouting 'Allahu Akbar'.”

Of course, (everyone sing it now) ‘it has nothing to do with Islam!’ I’m sure the cleric in there had been calming the boys down with the soothing words of Sura 9 (e.g., verse of the sword, 9:5; kill/coerce Christians and Jews, 9:29...). When this all blows over these sensitive politically-correct Islamists can back to Sura 4, 4:34-wife-beating…

Timbo,

“…this happened in view of his 10 year old son!”

This boy sees reality unmediated by media spin. He’ll remember who the enemy is. He will not forget those who have have targetted his family.

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:24 AM

The posts here turning the finger on the white Australians who took action are sickening.

After years of putting up with outrageous Moslem misbehavior, they did the right thing and kicked some Moslem ass. Long overdue and well deserved.

Get your acts together: responding to rape and attacks and threats of violence is righteous, and to be complimented.

PORK FOR MOSLEMS PORK FOR MOSLEMS PORK FOR MOSLEMS PORK FOR MOSLEMS

It's the elites who got us into this mess. Do you think they will take up truncheons to clean things up? Of course not, the folk upon whom this scum was foisted in the first place will be the ones who take care of business.

Those of you in here who cluck sanctimoniously about racism and the like are making the call to fight Islam with moderation... in other words, to surrender.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 1:28 PM

"... next elections in each respective western country then we all need to get off of our arses and vote with our feet and finally kick out all these jihadists once and for all."
-- posted by foxy

We weren't given a vote about whether to bring these things into our countries in the first place, so why would we be given a vote as to whether to expulse them?

They were installed by the permanent sitting leftist governments from the EU to Scandinavia to the USA to Canada to NZ to Oz. And they'll be left to breed themselves towards predominance until such time that these sitting governments are shoved to the side.

And that won't happen quietly.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 2:44 PM

foxy

"Bulldoze the mosques" is a slogan. Here is a fact: a Sydney church was destroyed by fire last night. Police say there are suspicious circumstances.

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 2:54 PM

For the longest time I have been predicting that the blinkered moral relativism of the elites in the West will force the hand of average frustrated citizenry to turn ugly. The failure of Western leadership to name this Muslim enemy, and to continue to pretend that it is intolerance and racism of Western natives more than the foisting of an intolerant, radicalized, and non-assimilating group of Arabs and Muslims into the West only fans the flames of the citizen's righteous hatred.

That's right - I said "righteous hatred". I don't accept the premise that we in the West must somehow accede to the sedition of the vile Arab and Muslim seditionists in our midst. I reject the notion that we must somehow prove our bona fides to this intransigent intolerant fascist group by bowing to their demands, tolerating their intolerance, or looking the other way as they foment violence and divisions on our home soil. They are determined to destroy our precious secular democracies -- and supplant our culture, religion, and governance with their hellish poisonous culture and religion and governance... This is preposterous, and it is unacceptable. In former times such people were rounded up and shot wholesale for the traitors, spies, and seditionists that they were. They were known as enemies, not pandered to, not encouraged to "assimilate." A TRUE backlash against them was inevitable.

We now see that the Muslim fearlessly and regularly displays his contempt and malign arrogance towards his Western host. The Muslim in the West has shown himself to be a separtist and a triumphalist regarding his stagnant primitive tribal culture and his revolting religion of Islam. And among all Muslims, the Arab personifies this best with his mindless adherence to his primitive Arab tribalism, and his addictions to violence, shame, ignorance, and vengeance. These are the underpinnings of the cancer of Islam -- shame, hatred, ignorance, lies, treachery, and terrorism.

Finally the average citizen is voting against the Muslim in the West. When the average European defeated the EU Constitution, he was largely rejecting the policies of the elite, rejecting Turkish accession, and revolting against the elite leadership who permitted the virus of Islam into the heartlands of Europe. We can see the disease this has caused... 9/11 -- Madrid, Beslan, 7/7 and 7/18, Riots in Paris by "disaffected Muslim youth..." Flag tramplings and burnings by Muslim scum in NY in the leadup to the Iraq war... Endless erosions of our security, our freedoms, our institutions because Muslims reside here, because Muslims either make the demands, or require these measures in efforts to protect against their predations... Endless "discoveries" of heinous Muslim textbooks, of hate literature in Mosques -- of "leaders" in the Mosques conducting terrorist indoctrination among their adherents -- the complete lack of cooperation among Muslims in the West to aid the efforts against "extremism." Now we see the poor sinned against average citizens in Australia doing what their leadership has failed to do -- they are finally pushing back against the Arabs and the Muslims... It is no crime -- it is to be celebrated...

Time to call the Muslims bluff. For too long he has accused us of "intolerance" "racism" and "Islamophobia" despite our superhuman forebearance and patience. We have been mild to them - hoping to teach them how to be mild in return. All that Westerners have received so far from the Muslims in our midst has been viper's bites, and viper's spit.

Muslims will soon understand that they are no longer welcome in the West. They have overplayed their hand, and overstayed their welcome. The average citizen doesn't need to familiarize himself which their filthy Suras, Hadiths or the inanity in their execrable Koran to recognize the mortal enemy in the Muslim. Muslim hatred is brazen -- it is palpable -- it is obvious for anyone willing to look with open eyes, and to hear with open ears...

Until the leadership STOPS the self immolation of average Western citizenry by ascribing "racism" to the righteous revulsion that Westerners feel for Muslims in general, we are doomed to continue to suffer from Arab/Muslim transgressions, terrorism, and mayhem.

It is inevitable that this issue will emerge out of the fog and confusion of the current leadership in the West. Surely there are racist overtones in the Aussies in this dust-up. But why is the leadership continuing to ignore and whitewash the insatiable racism of the average Arab? The triumphalism of the average Arab, and especially the average Arab Muslim is unparalleled in the world today -- There is nothing more sinister than the admixture of the bigotry and hatred of this Arab/Muslim group in the West, and the ignorance and wilful distortions being put forth by Western media and Western leadership.

Having absorbed about as much abuse from this grotesque sub-culture of Arabism/Islamism, it should come as no surprise that an increasing number of Western citizens are expressing their frustration and revulsion.

I would also add that Muslims have drastically overplayed their hand in the last 4 years. They have traded on an erroneous conviction that Western Leadership could be relied on to protect them from a severe backlash. They have counted on this. In fact, so glib have they been, that rather than finding a humble accommodation among the Westerners that have so generously tolerated them in our midst so far, the Muslim has used every terrorist attack to falsely allege "backlash" in a cynical effort to further their protected status and the notion that reactions to Muslims are to be condemned. I no longer care what happens to this segment of society in the West. I want to see them expelled from our midst.

I wonder how many more millions have come to the exact same conclusion?

Posted by: jsla [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 3:03 PM

"... a Sydney church was destroyed by fire last night. Police say there are suspicious circumstances."
-- posted by islamophobic pride

At least the Oz police are forthright.

I'm still waiting for answers on what happened at that Pasadena TX refinery, and in the parking lot outside the Kansas St. at Oklahoma football game.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 4:37 PM

"I would also add that Muslims have drastically overplayed their hand in the last 4 years. They have traded on an erroneous conviction that Western Leadership could be relied on to protect them from a severe backlash."
-- posted by jsla

Powerful essay, jsla. Hear! Hear!

But, what worries me is that, after getting slapped about a bit, they wise up and shut their big mouths and go back to humping and breeding in their government-funded apartments, raising their new Moslem babies on their welfare check incomes.

It's the Moslem Love. I'm sure it smells like weeks old butter, but a powerful witch's brew nonetheless.

I'm hoping for a bloodbath sooner so as to avert defeat via demographic Jihad later.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 4:50 PM

On the subject of racism, many angry (brown skinned) Tongans went down to nulla as well on Sunday to fly the Aussie flag. Viz: it wasn't a racist event. I work with one guy who looks very Arabic, people in the crowd asked him if he was Muslim, but his "no" answer was good enough and they left him alone.

Posted by: Timbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 4:56 PM

Right on target Timbo! This has nothing to do with race but eveything to do with fighting back against Muslim criminals (I know that's redundant)! These same criminals attacked a mostly Lebanese Catholic Church. The only issue is the violent Islamic ideology. I only regret that these brave Aussie youths weren't armed with AK47s.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 9:18 PM

Again, why is the government paying for their housing? All these benefits? Why? Why? Why? It needs to change...

Listening to an Aussie radio guy, Kerr, was upset when he heard about the fire but when a caller said it was a Christian church he was relieved and said so. It would have been so much worse if it was an islamic school he said.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:21 PM

jsla, Bravo! .... Bravo!

I will post your essay, on my wall - so clear an explanation of the current state of the world - and read it over and over!

Brave... truthful.... unapologetic

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:38 PM

Yeah it would be real big news if a Mosc burnt down, wouldn't they go to town telling Ozzies what dreadful racists they are, but it was only a church, and who cares about Christians anyway, all they do is agrieve moslems with their crosses and carols and christmas, why can't they celebrate festive season without going on about mangers and goodwill and shephards and angels and birth of the saviour who saved the world and so on?

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:46 PM

jsla

I also liked your post. But I thought the "underpinnigs of the cancer" were:

Ignorance Shame Lies
Amputations
Murder

Posted by: islamophobic pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2005 10:53 PM

jsla

That was smoking!
You don't have a blog yourself do you?

Posted by: foursuvs [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 12:30 AM

CGW...........

Thank you for the poem,never saw it before...sent it to my daughters,and ..............

never mind,but it was exhilarating(code word for I choked and damned near cried)

Posted by: Blitz [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 12:31 AM

A disturbing development got a mention on the news tonight. Channel 7 News at 6pm (Wednesday 14th) showed two men who had received a bashing at the hands of ME types. One was from Ryde which is about 25k from Cronulla. He said he was pulled up in his car and asked if he was Australian. He said 'yes' and received a bashing. Another male was followed home in his car and received a bashing for being Australian. He lives at Castle Hill which is about 34k from Cronulla. These bashings are random and could hardly be connected to the locals at Cronulla.

The guy from Ryde was about late 50's early 60s so hardly likely to identify with the mob at Cronulla. The guy at Castle Hill was about 30ish and looked like a business professional.

It looks like we have interesting times ahead.

Once again, thank you politicians. You've certainly taken the boredom out of life.

Posted by: Salad_In [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 2:41 AM

Also on the news: text messages between muslims threatening to gather at Bondi Beach this Sunday.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 3:40 AM

Yes, I saw that report of the young, professional guy who said he was bashed after answering "Yes" to being Australian. At least they reported that as a racist attack, but sadly they didn't mention the perps' racial makeup. Although, of course, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, we all know they'd be Tongans, or those nasty troublemaking Inuit.

But these racist attacks by the you-know-who's won't be desribed as "Our Nation's Shame" as the Cronulla protest was. Yes, Sunday's protest got out of hand and I certainly found the behaviour of some of them disgraceful and embarrassing, but the same damnation should be heaped on the two nights of feral Muslim behaviour with all those cars trashed and people attacked, not to mention the years of previous thuggery that started the whole thing.

Posted by: feralee [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 6:29 AM

Blitz:

I lost it at the "all is secure" line.

CGW

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 7:47 AM

Before this topic rolls off into the shadowy netherworld of the archives, I'd just like to extend my solidarity with all those Aussie infidels who cared enough to drive down to the beach and fight.

Comparing the last few days in Oz to the response of the French last month, I have to wince.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 1:28 PM

Great poem, CGW. Here's one from a helilcopter pilot who died in Vietnam. He's a hero to this day among the U.S. Army air cavalry.

He wrote this poem just days before he died.

PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH PBUH (for real, this once)

REMEMBRANCE

If you are able,
save them a place
inside of you
and save one backward glance
when you are leaving
for the places they can
no longer go.
Be not ashamed to say
you loved them,
though you may
or may not have always.
Take what they have left
and what they have taught you
with their dying
and keep it with your own.
And in that time
when men decide and feel safe
to call the war insane,
take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes
you left behind

-- authored by Major Michael Davis O’Donnell
Pilot, 1st Aviation Brigade, 170th Assault Helicopter Company ("Bikinis"), U.S. Army

KIA in Laos in March 1970, when he flew his helicopter into heavy fire in an attempt to extract a long-range reconnaissance patrol (LRRP) desperately awaiting extraction. An ARVN company was closing in on the LRRP patrol when his helicopter made a second extraction attempt at the LZ. The flight crew and LRRP patrol taken on-board went down in flames when the aircraft was hit by heavy ARVN fire from below as it took off.

O’Donnell was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Air Medal, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart, as well as promoted to the rank of Major following his loss incident.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 3:04 PM

This whole intimidation routine starts from the day these Muslim immigrants (from whatever country) arrive. I'm not bashing Muslims for the sake of it but the whole thing about Islam is geared toward being hostile to the "other" and being suspicious of him or her. It's endless and it's a tactic of the war. If you are not a Muslim and living in a Muslim country (Dar ul-Islam, the house of Islam) then you are an infidel living in (Dar ul-Harb), the house of war and according to their faith and the Koran, you are a target to either be converted and forced to pay a tax for the rest of your life, such as they allow you, or you are executed. There's no in-between. No allowing you to live, even if you renounce your faith. Even today all these edicts apply. And if you are Muslim and wish to leave...you may be executed. It's a very real possibility. As Muslims, they are taught from their first breath, to despise and take advantage of non-Muslims. Even to lie, for the sake of Islam. That is called 'Taqiyyah' or 'divine/holy lying' and it is permitted in the defence of Islam. Most reading this already know these things but a newcomer might not and might misinterpret what we are saying as pique or malice. It is not. These thing are written in the Koran and taught to every child.

Thus the whole culture is geared for war. The idea is to arrive in the country, keep a low profile for a while then up the ante. Each time the ante is upped, the response by the indigenous community is guaged and judged until it's time for another push of aggression. It's a tactic for domination which I call 'domination through prolonged and subtle aggression'. The victim is uncomfortable, and aware that their freedom is being restricted, but in the interests of 'getting along' and peace, the victim doesn't complain. Then the next incident happens and the same thing...they wait until it's unbearable.

What should have happened is that everyone should have gotten together in their 'neighbourhood watch' groups (if they don't have them they should form them NOW) and discuss what was going on. That way, when the leaders of the groups got together with the other group leaders up and down the coast, they'd have known they were 'under attack' and could have called on the local police (that's another thing needs addressing--the complete decimmation of the intelligence and backup of the NSW police force) and told them what they were each experiencing. The problem could have been spotted long before everyone came to the boil.

The next phase of this 'winning through aggression' campaign is to do what happened in Paris and France. Riot up and down the country. Then the French will start again in sympathy with the M.Easterners in Australia. Eventually they mean to stage simultaneous outbreaks around the world and make each country powerless. A concerted world-wide attack at the grass roots level on the man-in-the-street. We'd better start learning darned fast...NOW!

Posted by: foreign devil [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2005 5:48 PM

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