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CAIR attempts yet again to shift the focus away from Muslims as possible perpetrators of violent terror acts to Muslims as victims of discrimination and harassment. One principal effect could be an inhibition of investigations involving Muslims, making us all less safe. Is that what CAIR wants? A follow-up to this story. "Group Tells Muslims to Document Treatment," from AP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
WASHINGTON - Muslim-Americans trying to re-enter the United States after international travel should record instances in which they're singled out as security risks, a civil rights group said Tuesday.The Council on American-Islamic Relations asked traveling Muslims to record any examples of excessive security checks or fingerprinting when returning from a religious conference in Canada this weekend or from the annual hajj to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, next month.
Last year, three dozen Muslim-American men and women were searched, questioned, fingerprinted and photographed without explanation at two western New York border crossings after returning from a from an Islamic conference in Toronto.
No one in the group was charged, and the civil rights council filed a lawsuit against the Homeland Security Department in response. The lawsuit is ongoing.
"Americans of all faiths should be free to travel without fear of being singled out based solely on their religious practices or associations," council legal director Arsalan Iftikhar said in a statement Tuesday.
Posted by Robert at December 21, 2005 4:03 AM
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Its so damn easy.
Here's the solution, stop committing acts of terrorism and violence against other faith groups and perhaps, just maybe, people won't need to look at you with a suspicious eye.
Its almost as if they are asking "Why do you think I did it?" while holding a blood stained knife.
-Cheers
Posted by: Gorkhali
at December 21, 2005 5:22 AM
Profile Mohammeds. There's airtight scientific data backing up the concusion Mohammeds are more likely to commit acts of senseless violence. No religious profiling, problem solved.
at December 21, 2005 6:04 AM
Typical complaint to be heard in the near future: "He was staring intently at my licence plate!"
Muslim-bashing stats go up 4000%
Posted by: Gary
at December 21, 2005 7:08 AM
CAIR is not a civil rights group. It is a Muslim pressure group. It attempts to deflect criticism of Islam and of Muslims, to push aggressive Muslim demands for changes in the laws and customs of this country, and attempts to prevent the adequate monitoring of those whom, there is good reason to believe, form the population pool from which terrorists -- and others pushing for the Jihad in any number of ways -- come.
Why should that earn it the title, or why should anyone accept its own description, as a "civil rights" group? Does CAIR believe in pluralism and the priinciples of the American Constitution? Apparently a number of its former and present officials believe that Islam is superior to all other belief-systems, and eventually it is right, it is natural, it is just, for Islam to dominate and in dominating, to transform America.
Let's start with a simple question. What are the universal ideals to which CAIR adheres, if any? Are they ideals that all Americans might subscribe to? If CAIR believes in pluralism, and individual rights, does it believe in them only for the United States? And if so, for how long? Or does it believe that these principles should be pushed in Islamic countries as well, and does CAIR intend to make sure, in this "greater understanding" of Islam and the West that it so pines for, to push for changes all over the Muslim world?
Finally, does CAIR think it might be helpful to demonstrate its commitment to freedom of conscience if it were to issue a statement insisting that those born into Islam, or who have converted to Islam, have as much right to leave Islam as anyone else does, any other belief-system? Constantly emphasizing the rights of Muslims, not to be free from surveillance, but to be free to exercise their rights as individuals, including the right not to be Muslims, given what we all know is the treatment so often meted out to apostates, from social ostracism up to, and including, death, this would be a helpful statement. Helpful for those who, born into Islam, might wish to leave it. Helpful to show the full-throated commitment of CAIR to American civil liberties, to the Bill of Rights, to regarding people as individuals and not as communal members.
Let's see.
Posted by: Hugh
at December 21, 2005 7:30 AM
Why? So they can put together another shonky, compilation of fake hate crimes like they did recently? This group is a bogus pile of kangaroo dung.
at December 21, 2005 8:52 AM
"Americans of all faiths should be free to travel without fear of being singled out based solely on their religious practices or associations," council legal director Arsalan Iftikhar said in a statement Tuesday.
Not if the "religion" and its practices don't jive with the law, mate.
at December 21, 2005 8:54 AM
So they got stopped at the border. How many other travellers got stopped and searched that day? A bunch, I bet, because you've also got cigarette smuggling (tax evasion), the usual drug running (and British Colombia-- I mean, Columbia's reputation with marijuana), and so on.
I remember my dad telling us kids on our first trip out of the States (warning us of lines at Customs): "It's easy to leave the United States, but much harder to get back in." Clearly, we were to face profiling of us sinister Midwesterners.
Last among my reasons that CAIR is getting its panties in a bunch about nothing is the story of a friend of mine in high school-- almost a decade before 9/11-- who got stopped at the border. This was a 17 year-old red-haired girl with a nice Anglo/Irish name. The dispute involved something with passports and identification, I guess, but apparently they even asked this girl:
"Do you have a history of international terrorism?"
The Council on American-Irish Relations did not bring a lawsuit. ;)
Posted by: Shinoliite
at December 21, 2005 9:09 AM
I have passed through the US Canadian border a number of times without incident. I was either a child with my parents or a parent with my child. Nothing happened.
When I was about 18 years old we took a trip to Montreal to visit McGill University. There were six kids in the car. When we came back into the US, the border police had all of us get out of the car and they serched it with a fine tooth combe. I don't think they profiled us as terrorists, they most likely were looking for drugs. The point is that everybody in some way gets profiled. If I can put up with it, certainly a bunch of Mohamedans can also.
Meanwhile on our southern border, it seems that Vincente Fox and his hordes are in somewhat of a tizzy over the proposed wall that just may come to fruition. Check out breitbart.com. You know it must be a good idea with so many crimaliens against it. An upset mexican said in an interview "it is against what we see as part of our life, our culture, OUR TERRITORY". Most of these people believe the southwest to be still part of Mexico.
Posted by: GFB
at December 21, 2005 9:33 AM
GFB~ Look for E-Ring or some other show, to make an episode where 'minutemen' start lining up illegals along said wall... no, of Course there is no bias in Hollywood!
All those rich actors need their house-cleaners.
Posted by: Gary
at December 21, 2005 9:55 AM
Looks like there will be some dirty houses in Hollywood Gary. Unless, of course the wealthy in tinsletown hire Americnas and actually pay the minimum wage.
Posted by: GFB
at December 21, 2005 12:06 PM
I finally figured out what the PBUH means. Piss Be Upon Hooper.
at December 21, 2005 1:05 PM
"Americans of all faiths should be free to travel without fear of being singled out based solely on their religious practices or associations..."
Well, that's undoubtedly true for the vast majority of faiths, but sadly not all, Mr. Iftikhar... Your "religion" has proven itself to be nearly undifferentiated in many respects to Nazism and fascism -- so sorry, bub -- Islam doesn't get to winnow in with other world "faiths".
Thank you, JihadWatch/DhimmiWatch for setting so many straight regarding Islam... There's no need for similar sites for all the world's 1.2 billion + Hindus, There's no need for similar sites for all the world's 1.6 billion + Christians, There's no need for similar sites for all the world's 20 million Jews, There's no need for similar sites for all the world's other innumerable faiths, Mr. Iftikhar... Your "religion", that is Islam, is unique in the world... It is unique in it's calls for world domination by the sword -- it is unique in it's calls for murder, maiming, rape, pillage, thievery, subterfuge and warfare...
But most of all, it is unique in the FACT that Muslim adherents, pious and impious alike, are willing to act on the hate filled rhetoric of the Koran... They distinguish themselves by their willingness to heartlessly kill, maim, and destroy in the name of your "faith..."
If Islam continues to show that it is unable to reform and rectify its current heinous trajectory, then Islam must then be considered a cancer which must be removed from the body of humanity for the sake of humanity --
Enough criticizing those who don't need any criticism, Muslim! Enough projecting YOUR violence, YOUR intolerance, YOUR hatred onto those who are innocent... Heal yourself, or we will heal ourselves of YOU!!!!
Posted by: jsla
at December 21, 2005 1:30 PM
I think ALL NON muslims, jews and Infidels
Need to download their complant form
And Fill it out with
ALL the Deeds and mistreatment we have sufered because of Islam..
Every be-heading
Every Rape
Every shooting
Every stabbbing
Every Bombing..
Every Terrorist attack
Every church burned to the ground
Everything that MUSLIMS have DONE in the name of
the pervert mohammed and their demon god allah
Needs to be documented then sent to cair
FILL UP their INBOX...
at December 21, 2005 1:50 PM
TATP is very volitile and should be handled with care! Just ask Joel Henry Hinrichs III.
Posted by: XRDC
at December 21, 2005 2:17 PM
All Muslims must be questioned and searched when the enter any western country. All terrorist acts have been perpetrated by Muslims in the past few years against unsuspecting civilians of the western countries. Its the truth. CAIR can think or say anything to the contrary but the facts are hard to conceal.
I totally agree with 'jingoist' above post.
ALL the Deeds and mistreatment non-Muslims have suffered because of Islam..
Every be-heading
Every Rape
Every shooting
Every stabbing
Every Bombing..
Every Terrorist attack
Every church burned to the ground
Everything that MUSLIMS have DONE in the name of
the pervert mohammed and their demon god allah
Needs to be documented then sent to CAIR
Posted by: faqi
at December 21, 2005 2:27 PM
on the lighter side................
Business Sign in the Window:
"WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 AL QAEDA TERRORISTS THAN WITH ONE SINGLE AMERICAN"
This sign was prominently displayed in the window of a business in Philadelphia. You are probably outraged at the thought of such an inflammatory statement. One would think that anti-hate groups from all across the country would be marching on this business . . . and that the National Guard might have to be called to keep the angry crowds back. But, perhaps in these stressful times one might be tempted to let the proprietors simply make their statement . . We are a society which holds Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty. And after all, it is just a sign.
You may ask what kind of business!! would dare post such a sign?
Answer: A FUNERAL HOME
(Who said morticians had no sense of humor?)
You gotta love it!!! God Bless America!
Posted by: faqi
at December 21, 2005 2:58 PM
CAIR is a group of liars and they have lied to me personally...A while back I signed up for a free copy of the Koran to expand my horizons through them and have as yet to receive it. They lied and I think they just wanted to create a false pretense to report on, they probably received grant monies to fill the requests and then kept it or sent it you know who!!!!!!!!
I think I'll contact them again on this issue...maybe not.
Posted by: chuck
at December 21, 2005 4:33 PM
Does CAIR realize the harm they are doing to their own by playing victimhood instead of responsibility? They may win the battle, but in the end, they will lose the war.
Posted by: moderationist
at December 21, 2005 4:54 PM
"Does CAIR realize the harm they are doing to their own by playing victimhood instead of responsibility?"
-- posted by moderationist
Could you point out any time when Islam stood for responsibility? I've studied their history and they seem to always behave like rapacious children.
"They may win the battle, but in the end, they will lose the war."
-- posted by moderationist
This is like saying a left handed hitter batting .1000 in late August is bound to finish under .200 because he's gonna wear himself out hitting those laser line drives all over the ballpark.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at December 21, 2005 6:15 PM
Will someone please tell me why Muslims are entitled to the rights of the average US citizen when the majority of them will not pledge allegiance to our country and what it stands for? Dying for the flag means nothing to them. Our country is just a land of temptation to them. They will fight and die for Islam only. I don't believe they care about the lost lives of our countrymen one bit..
If they cannot utter the Pledge of Allegiance with sincerity, then they should not be allowed to live in our lands just like we are not allowed to live in theirs. Anyone that pledges allegiance to Islam renounces the ideals of our country should leave immediately.
at December 21, 2005 6:42 PM
l have a short statement for CHAIR, most muslims are not terrorist, but most terrorist are muslims! And until that changes, too bad when you cross the boder!
Posted by: Lulu
at December 21, 2005 7:06 PM
Does CAIR believe in pluralism and the priinciples of the American Constitution? Apparently a number of its former and present officials believe that Islam is superior to all other belief-systems, and eventually it is right, it is natural, it is just, for Islam to dominate and in dominating, to transform America.Posted by: NarizA keeper quote Hugh.
I've more than once heard some Islamist in Syria or Egypt self style himself as a human rights activist, translated a Jihadi who objects to being arrested and imprisoned,or jihadi who is an activist for other Jihadis who have been arrested and imprisoned.
Seems they have the right to proceed, regardless, and anyone who interferes in their right to proceed (with their bloody plans) is violating their human rights.
at December 21, 2005 7:19 PM
Lets see what the apologists at CAIR have to say about this. This is true ISLAM- read on.Especially the last two paragraphs - that says it all.
BALI bombings commander Mukhlas has written a fanatical call-to-arms from his death-row prison cell, exhorting Muslims to kill Westerners.
Published on a website on the orders of notorious terror chief Noordin Mohammed Top, the polemic demonstrates the undiminished fervour of Mukhlas, who has been sentenced to death for commanding the Bali bomb blasts in 2002 that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.
"You who still have a shred of faith in your hearts, have you forgotten that to kill infidels and the enemies of Islam is a deed that has a reward above no other," says the 60-page polemic written in Indonesian by "Sheikh Mukhlas", posted on the anshar.net website, which has since been shut down by Indonesian police.
"Aren't you aware that the model for us all, the Prophet Mohammed and the four rightful caliphs, undertook to murder infidels as one of their primary activities, and that the Prophet waged jihad operations 77 times in the first 10 years as head of the Muslim community in Medina?"
Posted by: faqi
at December 21, 2005 7:41 PM
Screw CAIR. People's lives are more important than people's feelings. Why is this so hard to fathom?
Posted by: Darrell
at December 21, 2005 7:56 PM
Now lets see, CAIR wants all Arabs to list any infration of their "so called" rights? Give me a break!!! They need to be stopped and tripled checked!!! especially if they're of Saudi decent. And coming rom overseas. Hey unlike the leftist in this country, I remember September 11th, 2001. I hope that every time that they feel violated, that they file a complaint. That way we'll know that the government is doing their job as far as protecting our airways. If CAIR is sooo concerned about Arabs being singled out, why don't they make another suggestion, Stay where you are and don't bother to come back!!! That way Arabs won't have to worry about being singled out. Especially if their names are Mohammed, Muhammad, Ali, Samuod, Yasser etc. If you carry a koran, you should be double checked. Elongated beards and turbans double checked. You see the pattern here. We are at war here and we can't allow CAIR and their willing acommplists in the media, and Democratic party, Air America, and the Hollywood left, get their way. All Muslims may not be terrorist, but a whole lot of terrorists are Muslim. That's just a fact CAIR. And they all hate America!!!
Posted by: Ironman Hondo
at December 22, 2005 11:06 AM
GFB~ Look for E-Ring or some other show, to make an episode where 'minutemen' start lining up illegals along said wall... no, of Course there is no bias in Hollywood! posted by Gary
But Gary, isn't Hollywood owned and controlled by the Jews.. you must be a closet antisemite.
All those rich actors need their house-cleaners.
But actors don't write the scripts, or (save for Mel Gibson and a few others) produce movies.. that be the job of the owners and producers of the studios and production companies.
Posted by: Nariz
at December 22, 2005 5:20 PM


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