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Women's rights in Islam update from Sharon Lapkin in FrontPage, with thanks to a tea-loving snail:
In Australia, Norway, Sweden and other Western nations, there is a distinct race-based crime in motion being ignored by the diversity police: Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian motivations.When a number of teenage Australian girls were subjected to hours of sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that occurred between 1998 and 2002, the perpetrators of these assaults framed their rationale in ethnic terms. The young victims were informed that they were “sluts” and “Aussie pigs” while they were being hunted down and abused.
In Australia's New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf.
And earlier this year Australians were outraged when Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said, who wore skimpy clothing, invited men to rape them.
A few months earlier, in Copenhagen, Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid Mehdi created uproar when – like his peer in Australia – he stated that women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped.
And with haunting synchronicity in 2004, the London Telegraph reported that visiting Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when they were raped. He added, “For her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct.”
In Norway and Sweden, journalist Fjordman warns of a rape epidemic. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen stated that the steady increase of rape-cases and the link to ethnicity are clear, unmistakable trends. Two out of three persecutions for rape in Oslo are immigrants with a non-Western background and 80 percent of the victims are Norwegian women.
In Sweden, according to translator for Jihad Watch, Ali Dashti, “Gang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace.” A few weeks ago she said, “Five Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.”
In France, Samira Bellil broke her silence – after enduring years of repeated gang rapes in one of the Muslim populated public housing projects – and wrote a book, In the hell of the tournantes, that shocked France. Describing how gang rape is rampant in the banlieues, she explained to Time that, “any neighborhood girl who smokes, uses makeup or wears attractive clothes is a whore.”
Unfortunately, Western women are not the only victims in this epidemic. In Indonesia, in 1998, human rights groups documented the testimony of over 100 Chinese women who were gang raped during the riots that preceded the fall of President Suharto. Many of them were told: “You must be raped, because you are Chinese and non-Muslim.”
Christian Solidarity Worldwide reported that in April 2005, a 9-year-old Pakistani girl was raped, beaten with a cricket bat, hanged upside down from the ceiling, had spoonfuls of chillies poured into her mouth, and repeatedly bashed while handcuffed. Her Muslim neighbours told her they were taking revenge for the American bombing of Iraqi children and informed her they were doing it because she was an “infidel and a Christian.”
In Sudan – where Arab Muslims slaughter black Muslim and Christian Sudanese in an ongoing genocide – former Sudanese slave and now a human rights’ activist Simon Deng says he witnessed girls and women being raped and that the Arab regime of Khartoum sends its soldiers to the field to rape and murder. In other reports, women who are captured by government forces are asked; “Are you Christian or Muslim?” and those who answer Christian, are gang raped before having their breasts cut off.
This phenomenon of Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the urgent, violent, repressive epidemic it is. Instead, journalists, academics, and politicians ignore it, rationalize it, or ostracize those who dare discuss it.
In Australia, when journalist Paul Sheehan reported honestly on the Sydney gang rapes, he was called a racist and accused of stirring up anti-Muslim hatred. And when he reported in his Sydney Morning Herald column that there was a high incidence of crime amongst Sydney’s Lebanese community, fellow journalist, David Marr sent him an e-mail stating, “That is a disgraceful column that reflects poorly on us all at the Herald.”Keysar Trad, vice-president of the Australian Lebanese Muslim Association said the gang rapes were a “heinous” crime but complained it was “rather unfair” that the ethnicity of the rapists had been reported.
Journalist Miranda Devine reported during the same rape trials that all reference to ethnicity had been deleted from the victim impact statement because the prosecutors wanted to negotiate a plea bargain.
So when Judge Megan Latham declared, “There is no evidence before me of any racial element in the commission of these offences,” everyone believed her. And the court, the politicians and most of the press may as well have raped the girls again.
Retired Australian detective Tim Priest warned in 2004 that the Lebanese gangs, which emerged in Sydney in the 1990s – when the police were asleep – had morphed out of control. “The Lebanese groups,” he said, “ were ruthless, extremely violent, and they intimidated not only innocent witnesses, but even the police that attempted to arrest them.”
Priest describes how in 2001, in a Muslim dominated area of Sydney two policemen stopped a car containing three well-known Middle Eastern men to search for stolen property. As the police carried out their search they were physically threatened and the three men claimed they were going to track them down, kill them and then rape their girlfriends.
According to Priest, it didn’t end there. As the Sydney police called for backup the three men used their mobile phones to call their associates, and within minutes, 20 Middle Eastern men arrived on the scene. They punched and pushed the police and damaged state vehicles. The police retreated and the gang followed them to the police station where they intimidated staff, damaged property and held the police station hostage.
Eventually the gang left, the police licked their wounds, and not one of them took action against the Middle Eastern men. Priest claims, “In the minds of the local population, the police are cowards and the message was, 'Lebanese [Muslim gangs] rule the streets.'”
In France, in the banlieues, where gang rape is now known simply as tournantes or ‘pass-around,’ victims know the police will not protect them. If they complain, Samir Bellil said, they know that they and their families will be threatened.
However, Muslim women in the French ghettos are finally fighting back against gang rape and police non-action. They have begun a movement called, “We’re neither whores nor doormats.” They are struggling against the intrinsic violence that plagues their neighbourhoods and the culture that condones it.
In most French prosecutions, the Muslim rapists state that they do not believe they have committed a crime. And in a frightening parallel with the gang rapists in Australia, they claim the victim herself is to blame and accuse her of being a “slut” or a “whore.”
According to The Guardian, during the recent French riots, a Saudi Prince with shares in News Corporation boasted to a conference in Dubai that he had phoned Rupert Murdoch and complained about Fox News describing the disturbances as “Muslim riots.” Within half an hour he said, it was changed to “civil riots.”
Swedish translator, Ali Dashti, stated that in Sweden when three men raped a 22-year-old woman recently, they said one word to her. “Whore.” Such stories, according to Dashti, are in the Swedish newspapers every week. And, the politically correct “take great care not to mention the ethnic background of the perpetrators.”
Sweden’s English newspaper The Local reported in July that Malmo police commander Bengt Lindström had been charged with inciting racial hatred. He sent e-mails from his home computer to two city officials. To the head of healthcare, he wrote: “You...treat old Swedes who have worked hard building up the fatherland like parasites and would rather give my taxes to criminals called Mohammed from Rosengärd.”
In Malmo, the third largest city in Sweden, the police have admitted, Dashti says, that they no longer control the city. “It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants.” Ambulance personnel are regularly attacked and spat upon and are now refusing to help until a police escort arrives. The police are too afraid to enter parts of the city without backup.
In early 2005, Norwegian newspapers reported that Oslo had recorded the highest ever number of rape cases in the previous twelve months. However, Fjordman explained, the official statistics contained no data regarding “how immigrants were grossly over represented in rape cases”, and the media remain so strangely silent.
Oslo Professor of Anthropology, Unni Wikan, said Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, she stated, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.
The BBC pulled a documentary scheduled for screening in 2004, after police in Britain warned it could increase racial tension. “In these exceptional circumstances... Channel 4 as a responsible broadcaster has agreed to the police’s request...” The documentary was to show how Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abused young, white English girls as young as 11.
The number of rapes committed by Muslim men against women in the last decade is so incredibly high that it cannot be viewed as anything other than culturally implicit behaviour. It is overtly reinforced and sanctioned by Islamic religious leaders who blame the victims and excuse the rapists.
In three decades of immigration into Western countries, Islam has caused social upheaval and havoc in every one of its host countries. No other immigration program has encountered the problems of non-assimilation and religious ambiguity.
Everywhere in the world, Muslims are in conflict with their neighbours. And as Mark Steyn recently said, every conflict appears to have originated by someone with the name of Mohammed.
In July 2005, Melbourne Sheik Mohammad Omran told Sixty Minutes that “...we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our home and you didn’t. “
In the same interview visiting Sheik Khalid Yasin warned “There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend, so a non-Muslim could be your associate but they can't be a friend. They're not your friend because they don't understand your religious principles and they cannot because they don't understand your faith.”
Despite being told over and over by Islamic scholars, and witnessing massive influxes of Islamic crime, Western countries continue to believe in the reality of assimilation and moral relativism.
In Australia, Lebanese Christians have assimilated and become a respected part of our community. The Premier of Victoria is a Lebanese Christian as is the Governor Of New South Wales. However, Lebanese Muslims have encountered serious problems because of their refusal to accept our right to live our way of life. Nothing so clearly demonstrates that it is not an issue of race — but of culture.
Posted by Robert at December 27, 2005 9:26 AM
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No suprise really, however sooner rather than later denial will become impossible for the western governments about this, more likely as with what happened in Birmingham, Britain a muslim will stand accused of raping a non muslim but the community this non muslim comes from will stand up and retaliate (recent 'rumoured' attack by muslims on a afro carribean girl lead to riots and violence as the afro carribean community 'hit back')now in this single case it was just rumoured, imagine the backlash had it have been proven?, soon this backlash will happen across all of europe and justly so
then the governments and apologists and appeasers will have only one clear choice, either support the non muslim population and show clarity about what is occuring, or support the muslim populus and thus risk civil insurection the likes they have never seen before
as the saying goes 'i live in interesting times'
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at December 27, 2005 9:59 AM
These rapist Moslems are making good on God's commandment to follow the Sunnah, which of course includes rape. Lots of rape.
DISLOYAL HARVARD DISLOYAL GEORGETOWN DISLOYAL USC DISLOYAL COLUMBIA
Too bad it's against the law to talk about the Islamic scriptural roots of rape, and terror, and murder, and...
What law was that again?
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 27, 2005 9:59 AM
It is sad but true..
Islam not only condones this but encourages rape.
Mohammed raped his captives IN FRONT of their families and after enjoying his evil desires
Executed the womens children first then her husband..
Mohammed was fixated on sex even going as far as inspecting boys and girls public hairs...
Mohammed raped a 9 year old girl ashisha...
Supposedly though she was all grown up...
Mohammed fits the profile of a
Level III sexual predator.
A psychopath
A habitual Lier.
A rapist.
A tourture who enjoyed hurting others for his own pleasure..
There is a detailed analysis on Mohammeds sexual crimes against humanity on many web sites..
I am sorry but Islam is from the DEVIL
and the actions each day of muslims proves it...
at December 27, 2005 12:01 PM
"Oslo Professor of Anthropology, Unni Wikan, said Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, she stated, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them."
My previous post:
"Finn
Don't you realize that it is not the moslem men's fault that they can't control their passions when they encounter Swedish women dressed in normal Western attire. The only solution to the problem which is compatible with the ideal of multiculturalism is that Swedish women should take up wearing the bourkha (and they should probably give up driving as well, just to be on the safe side)."
It is rather uncanny to find oneself a Prophet - should I start a new religion?
But more seriously, it seems to me that feminism is possibly our best hope of defeating the lunacy of multiculturalism. It is Western women who have most to lose from the expansion of Islam, and they have shown through the feminist movement of the eighties and nineties that they can be a very powerful force for instigating social change. We should all endeavour to inform both the "ordinary" women around us and the feminist leadership of the truth of the present situation and of what the future holds in store for them if things are allowed to continue in this way. If we could get the feminist movement to come out explicitly against Islam, then what deadly (hopefully, terminal) confusion this would sow amongst the professional multiculturalists in academia, politics, and the media.
at December 27, 2005 12:42 PM
Durandal,
Actually, I think mass killings, mosque
burnings, and, basically, reciprocity, are
the best hope for the defeat of muslims. Most
of the "feminists" I've talked to are so
brainwashed by PC multiculti BS that I think it
is hopeless. It's a great pity, because our
civilizations will be set back by many years
because of this, but that's how I see it.
Reciprocity used to mean rewarding good deeds
that others do for you, but in the case of
mohammadans, gang rapes, church burning,
beheading Christian girls, murdering apostates,
etc., etc., ..., well, you figure it out!
at December 27, 2005 12:55 PM
This whole story makes me want to vomit, but I will say two things:
1) In the civilized world, everyone (whores included) have rights.
2) If these rapists believe that everyone not wearing a veil is "fair game", then they themselves should be sexually abused - after all, they don't wear headscarves either, do they? Another alternative would be to chop off their parts - halal style, of course, in public and with no anaesthesia.
Please forgive me for this outburst, but in my book rape is the worst possible crime. Worse than murder. Hearing these stories about abused 9 year old girls literally makes my blood boil particularly because I know that these rapists going to do their "thing" for a long time due to political incompetence.
A few weeks ago I heard a wonderful Jewish saying that goes something like this: "those who show mercy to the cruel, end up being cruel to the merciful".
I can't find a better sentence for this whole mess.
Posted by: cruzado at December 27, 2005 1:20 PM
I tend to agree with
cruzado
American
And no doubt many more will harbour the same feeling after reading this thread.
http://www.fomi.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15466&highlight=#15466
Taranus
You are quite right we are living in interesting times,as we have witnessed in Birmingham and Cronulla
We dont want to see in our towns or cities,what we see in the above link
at December 27, 2005 2:09 PM
"... they can't control their passions when they encounter Swedish women dressed in normal Western attire."
-- posted by Durandal
HEY WHATCHIT. I myself have suffered from the same malady for decades now, and I ain't no Moslem.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 27, 2005 2:29 PM
"So, just when will Europe seek a final solution for the Muslim problem?
From a Swedish blogger:
Sunday, February 20, 2005
Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway - Authorities Look the Other Way
Numbers released in January 2005 indicate a sharp rise in the number of rape charges in Malmö, Sweden’s third largest city:
Thomas Anderberg, responsible for statistics at the Malmö Police, says there was a doubling of the number of reported rapes by ambush in 2004, following what was already a decade of steadily increasing numbers of sexual crimes. - I think that’s great news, says Anna Gustafsson, head of the Domestic Violence Unit at the Malmö Police. She suggests that the increase is due to the fact that women who otherwise wouldn’t press charges for rape now choose to contact the police.
In other words, Gustafsson claims that we are dealing with a “technical” increase, not a real one. However, national statistics reveal that reported rapes against children have almost doubled in Sweden during the past ten years:
According to Swedish Radio on Tuesday, statistics from Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention show that the number of reported rapes against children is on the rise. The figures have nearly doubled in the last ten years: 467 rapes against children under the age of 15 were reported in 2004 compared with 258 in 1995. Legal proceedings continue this week in a case involving a 13 year old girl from Motala who was said to have been subjected to a group rape by four men. (Note: These four men were Kurdish Muslims, who raped the girl for hours and even took photos of doing so)
The number of rape charges per capita in Malmö is 5 – 6 times that of Copenhagen, Denmark. Copenhagen is a larger city, but the percentage of immigrants is much lower. And it’s not just the rape statistics that reveal a scary increase in Malmö or Sweden. Virtually every kind of violent crime is on the rise. Robberies have increased with 50 % in Malmö only during the fall of 2004. Threats against witnesses in Swedish court cases have quadrupled between 2000 and 2003. During the past few decades, massive immigration has changed the face of Sweden’s major cities, as well as challenged the viability of the welfare state. In 1970 Sweden had the fourth highest GDP per capita among developed countries with income about 6% above the OECD average. By 1997 it was at fifteenth place with an average GDP per capita 14% below average. Malmö has a heavy concentration of Muslim immigrants in particular. According to some estimates, it will be a Muslim majority city in no more then 10 years. Crime is rampant in the growing ghettos:
Becirov runs the Islamic Center of Malmö, on the outskirts of Sweden's third-largest city. Some immigrant neighborhoods in the city have (official) unemployment rates exceeding 50 percent. Swedish authorities have failed to lift up the area, and seem to be giving the Islamic Center of Malmö a great deal of leeway in attempting to do so. An article that appeared in 2003 noted that "a few" of the 6-to 10-year-old girls were wearing headscarves. On a visit in January 2005, fully 80 percent were covered in class--only a handful were not. In a fit of absent-mindedness, Sweden has suddenly become as heavily populated by minorities as any country in Europe. The percentage of foreign-born is roughly equivalent to the highest percentage of immigrants the United States ever had in its history (on the eve of World War I). Rosengård appears to be all-immigrant. The public schools have virtually no ethnically Swedish children. There are stories--familiar in other parts of Europe where immigrants from the Muslim world have recently settled--of students harassing Jewish teachers and defacing textbooks that treat Jewish themes. Crime is high."
more..http://www.the600club.com/showflat.php?Board=news&Number=12128
Posted by: otterfisher at December 27, 2005 4:11 PM
from above link//
"As Robert Spencer has demonstrated, rape can indeed be linked to Islamic teachings of Jihad, and even to the example of Muhammad himself, his Sunna. Above all, it is connected to Islamic notions of the role of women in society, and their behaviour in the public sphere. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape." Apparently, he isn’t the only Muslim in Europe to think this way:
The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte told in a recent interview that in Holland, you can now see examples of young, unveiled Moroccan women with a so-called "smiley". It means that the girl gets one side of her face cut up from mouth to ear, serving as a warning to other Muslim girls who should refuse to wear the veil. In the Muslim suburb of Courneuve, France, 77 per cent of the veiled women carry veils reportedly because of fear of being harassed or molested by Islamic moral patrols."
at December 27, 2005 4:18 PM
This article is very disturbing. Will non-Muslim European/Australian men please stand up and say, "We're as mad as hell and we're not going to take this anymore." Protect your women! Your family, your culture and your way of life is worth protecting and saving.
Posted by: maryrose at December 27, 2005 5:30 PM
BellaVig --Beautiful Vigilantes
Young beautiful, scantily clad women unite! Arm yourselves with small, razor sharp knives or scissors if you like. Reel in the raper and carve up his future when he attempts to force his...well, you know what I mean. If your governments won't protect you, protect yourselves ... and start a new collection of Momars -- Mohammed's marbles..
Posted by: Kemaste at December 27, 2005 5:35 PM
maryrose,
I don't know Australia/UK, but there is a
widespread effort in the US to demasculinize
males. So, asking most of these effete
metrosexuals to "protect their women" will
be seen as rather gauche.
kemaste,
That's a lovely fantasy, but in the world I
occupy, males are, on average, far stronger than
women, and that the predators hunt in packs.
Pistols are better than knives. However, you
don't aim at genitals, that's for movies. If you
point a firearm at someone, your intent should be
to kill, center of mass is a good target.
at December 27, 2005 9:43 PM
You know, if Aussie government are unwilling to prevent Jihad rape of its white women, it could at least distribute free condoms to its Moslem citizens to avert STD transmission and unwanted pregancy among female infidel rape victims.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 27, 2005 10:16 PM
This is genocide of European woman, and by extension a genocide of Europe by Muslim invaders.
Interested, who should you fear more and which evil is more of a concern then the Islamic threat.
Europeans should stand up for the rights of their women and all women who want to live in a European culture.
The villains are Muslim men they should be the targets of the law.
Posted by: El Cid at December 27, 2005 11:17 PM
Eventually even the most passive pacifists will get enough of this insanity in their own streets, but how they will defend themselves without weapons remains to be seen.
I cannot imagine a wild epidemic of muslim gang rape happening in the U.S., although I suppose it is possible. If it were to happen here, I am totally confident that the men would defend the women, and there would be plenty of vigilante justice and revenge. But I think the police would do their jobs and not allow gangs of muslim thugs to intimidate them, even if they had to call in the National Guard for backup.
Will Europeans ever learn that evil cannot be wished away?! Oops, I almost forgot, "evil" does not exist! Please excuse my momentary lapse of memory. I don't think I have ever witnessed collective denial on such a large scale. What fools!
I suppose the concepts of pride, honor, respect, and loyalty to oneself, one's nation, and one's people are out of vogue in Europe these days. But without these qualities, one is numb, half-alive, worthless, meaningless. And that is what the leaders of Europe are---shameless quislings and cowards sequestered safely in their ivory towers, watching the lions they unleashed eat their unarmed, defenseless people.
at December 27, 2005 11:28 PM
Hi everyone, I'm new to this site but I feel compelled to dive in.
Firstly to Shiva,
Foolishly perhaps I clicked on the link and I can tell you those pictures will remain with me forever. Never, in my few years on this earth have I seen such horror. Islam truly is of the Devil himself.
Secondly, I agree with the majority of what has been said. It's time our governments woke up and smelt the stale coffee. This has been going on for too long and its just ridiculous. I have lived in London for the majority of my life but I am orginally from the south Sudan. My whole family is Christian and we have experienced first hand persecution. Anytime I hear about women being raped sickens me. Raping children evil in its purest form.
However, as Christians, it has never been in our nature to return the favour so to speak when we are being persecuted which is why I have never seen a Christian/Jewish suicide bomber. Even if we cant move our government to action, we know our God will take action. One day, they'll get theirs but on a bigger scale. I'm talking hell fire, gnashing of teeth and all that jazz dished out by the Big Guy Himself.
at December 27, 2005 11:51 PM
SusanP:
...there would be plenty of vigilante justice and revenge...
Would that be tolerated over there or would you expect a similar reaction as Cronulla, Australia?
Racism, white supremists, disproportionate policing etc, etc...
On a similar point, since vigilantism is regarded in such a negative light there may be another way of protecting our societies and our people. Is anyone familiar with the "Neighborhood Watch" program? This was run a number of years ago and I'm not sure if it's still going. Basically it involved families registering (I think) as a 'safe house' and putting a yellow sticker on their gate. If a child was heading home and felt unsafe they knew that any house with the yellow sticker would let them in and keep them safe until their parents arrived.
Would such an organization be able to protect the community without taunts of racism since they were not targeting any ethnic/religious/cultural group, just crime in their community. One of the problems with the sydney 'riots' was that they were organised to get 'lebs' rather than criminal acts at a general level.
Posted by: AngryMuppet at December 27, 2005 11:59 PM
These gangs of raping Muslim men are nothing more than a malevolant pack of ravenous wolves. To use the Koran and the Islamic faith to justify raping and even honor killing astounds me.
Where are the protective men of Europe? Oopps....... I forgot- these little boys of Europe are too busy marching in that non-violent peace march on the street to protest the U.S. intervention in Iraq.
Posted by: Johnathan at December 28, 2005 12:15 AM
Susan P: "I cannot imagine a wild epidemic of muslim gang rape happening in the U.S., although I suppose it is possible. If it were to happen here, I am totally confident that the men would defend the women, and there would be plenty of vigilante justice and revenge."
Yep....most American men have a spine and are not liberal peace-loving wimps like the majority of native ethnic European men.
Posted by: Johnathan at December 28, 2005 12:19 AM
the catalogue of Islmic attrocities in the west is so large now that soon we will witness the first western suicide bombing against the islamists.It will be prompted by the continued cowardly inaction of our governments and the lies and deceits of our MSM.
It may take place in a mosque or at a jihad meeting or at a conference of mullahs. Or a Muslim convert who turns against his masters.
The horrors of what we are enduring and the inaction of our governments and supression by the media will ensure that someone will act.
How will tye governments and press react to this?
at December 28, 2005 12:28 AM
this catalogue of horrendeous muslim rape in France which may have been even worse than the Scandinavian or Australian outrages
"When she was 14, Samira Bellil made the dangerous mistake of falling in love. Dangerous, not because of teenage heartache, or pregnancy, or the usual adolescent pitfalls. But because where Bellil lives, falling in love can get you gang raped.
Her boyfriend was the handsome hard man on the estate. She decided to sleep with him, in a basement, and when she left, his friends were waiting for her. They started kicking and beating her, and the biggest dragged her by the hair to an apartment nearby, where she spent the night being raped by three young men. The sexual torture was so revolting, she still won't describe it, 15 years later. But maybe the worst thing about Bellil's gang rape is that, in the deprived suburbs of 21st-century France, it's not unusual.
It's not even called rape. They call it a tournante, or pass-round. The banality is deliberate: a joint, a girl - same difference. Sometimes, they call it a plan petasse, or slag-plan, because that's what any girl who sleeps with her boyfriend is, and that's why she's fair game. Sometimes, it's a basement-plan, because that's where it happens, as well as in garbage disposal rooms, schools, courtroom toilets. "
AND it is from the Guardian (hardly a source of Islamophobia)
http://www.met.police.uk/sapphire/press_articles/revolt.htm
at December 28, 2005 12:44 AM
American says:
"...you don't aim at genitals, that's for movies. If you point a firearm at someone, your intent should be to kill, center of mass is a good target.
American:
I don't want to shoot and kill them. Besides guns are noisy. I want to cut off their weapons of choice with a paring knife and let them live with the memory. I want them to live and look down and see nothing...
at December 28, 2005 1:43 AM
"most American men have a spine and are not liberal peace-loving wimps like the majority of native ethnic European men."
The writer of this quote seriously underestimates the power of that cultural mental disease called PC.
What the PC disease can do is not merely stop the good men from action -- no, it is much worse than that: what the PC disease can do is put a monumental filter between the people and the data. No matter how many Muslims might begin to gang-rape, that data will not be allowed to be noticed and rationally digested, for the rational conclusions are unthinkable and "Islamophobic" and "racist", you see.
I'd estimate that about 70% of Americans have become infected with the PC disease over the past two or three generations (one generation = approximately 23 years). And of the remaining 30% who might still have spine, at least 3/4 are innocently ignorant of the problem of Islam. That leaves about less than 10% who have both spine and informed intelligence -- and that minority will be, at best, marginalized and ostracized should they do something concrete against an of epidemic of Muslim rapists; and at worst they will be put down by the Law.
No, the most likely scenario should there be an epidemic of Muslim rapists in America, is that the data of this epidemic will be dissolved and obfuscated by the usual PC interpretations of sociology and economics, as well as by outright intentional masking of crucial profiling information.
Posted by: Dr. Pepper at December 28, 2005 1:48 AM
Let me guess - if the Muftis, Clerics and other assorted Islamic idiot leaders were in charge - rape might become an olympic sport?
Lousy animals!
Posted by: Quantum Infidel at December 28, 2005 11:41 AM
Kemaste,
Once again, that's a lovely fantasy, one I
fully empathize with, however, as women are not
in general the equal of men in physical combat,
I think it will remain a fantasy. Killing quickly
is good enough for me.
Guns are noisy, that's very true, so if you shoot,
wear ear protection. Guns also even things up
between men and women quite a bit. As the old
saying goes, "God made men, Sam Colt made them equal".
at December 28, 2005 1:25 PM
"most American men have a spine and are not liberal peace-loving wimps like the majority of native ethnic European men."
"The writer of this quote seriously underestimates the power of that cultural mental disease called PC.
"
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You seem to seriously underestimate the phenomenon called WWI and WW2 which emasculated Europe both genetically and culturally. A Special Forces solider told me of his impressions of the men of Europe: “WW2 killed off all the real men in Europe”… “The only soldiers that are as tough as the Americans are the British.”
Both world wars cleansed the European gene pool of the brave, the aggressive European men, leaving only runts in the genetic sense. The male scholars, the Engineers, the school teachers, extra left to man the home front and those who raised up their hands and surrendered do not constitute donors of the aggressive warrior genes that once helped Europeans dominate the world. Also, both wars destroyed European Christianity by casting doubts on a God that would allow such horrors and paving the way for radical socialism to take the place of the seemingly discredited older belief system.
Churches have become Museums; generation were taught that is an intolerant faith and the source of human suffering; Cheverly became incompatible with a culture that deconstructed manhood in favor of the unisex anti-machismo anti-patriarchal radical feminism; all the moral and social norms of western culture were given up in favor of a permissive culture, a welfare state that is a cradle to the grave super nanny, a culture hostile to family, morality, valor, and pride in ones own civilization and history.
Posted by: have_mercy at December 28, 2005 1:38 PM
Thanks to the liberal media and multicultural advocacy groups, we in the U.S. have had news reports about murder, rapes, etc. sanitized for many years. Any reference to ethnicity is taken out. Numerically, most of violent crimes are comitted by minorities. I guess it offended the minorities' sensibility to have so many of their numbers mentioned in the news. They didn't want to be stereotyped - huh!
Posted by: AmerGuy at December 28, 2005 2:22 PM
Hey!! Wha, what the hell is this? Those males do not reflect Islam!!! Why, they've hijacked that "religion of peace"!!! It's what they do, ask any airline pilot. Muslim men are upright, pious, eschew evil, and observe Islamic law as ordained by Allah, his prophet Muhammad and the koran. Rape non Muslim women, preposporus!!! Popicock and balderdash!!! The koran doesn't promote rape. Islam is tolorant, it rejects, I mean, respects women. Islam repells, I mean respects other religions, especially Christianity. as a matter fo fact, Islam makes Christians dead, I mean better. especially when Muslim men purify the Christian women, I mean rape, oops, I mean introduce them to Islam. Islam is that "religion of peace".
Posted by: Ironman Hondo at December 28, 2005 2:51 PM
Hey!! Wha, what the hell is this? Those males do not reflect Islam!!! Why, they've hijacked that "religion of peace"!!! It's what they do, ask any airline pilot. Muslim men are upright, pious, eschew evil, and observe Islamic law as ordained by Allah, his prophet Muhammad and the koran. Rape non Muslim women, preposporus!!! Popicock and balderdash!!! The koran doesn't promote rape. Islam is tolorant, it rejects, I mean, respects women. Islam repells, I mean respects other religions, especially Christianity. as a matter fo fact, Islam makes Christians dead, I mean better. especially when Muslim men purify the Christian women, I mean rape, oops, I mean introduce them to Islam. Islam is that "religion of peace".
Posted by: Ironman Hondo at December 28, 2005 2:51 PM
Angry, you asked if vigilanteism and revenge would be tolerated in the U.S. if there were muslim gang rapes or riots. To answer your question, no, they would not be officially tolerated. But if the authorities reacted as they do in Europe, largely downplaying and ignoring one of the most heinous of all crimes, public outrage would force them to find and prosecute the offenders. If they refused, I hate to think what might happen.
I don't believe our authorities would ever allow muslim no-go zones to become established, or let muslim thugs intimidate them. Had the recent riots in France occurred here, the police would have handled the situation much differently. One duty of law enforcement is to protect private property. They failed miserably in FRance by allowing those savages to wantonly destroy buildings, thousands of cars, etc. They did not enforce the law; they allowed total anarchy to prevail for weeks. I cannot imagine such a scenario occurring here.
Any large muslim criminal gangs would be countered by competing indigenous gangs. I can envision several possible scenarios, none of which would tolerate gang-raping, criminal muslim gangs in America. There are so many sub-cultures in America, especially in big cities. Some of the inner city gangs are brutal; even the toughest muslims wouldn't want to mess with them. As the muslim population grows here, I guess anything is possible but despite the excessive number of sniveling, politically correct politicians, academia, intelligentsia, and news media, the American people would not tolerate impunity for muslim criminal behavior. And that is what Australia and France did.
I read a disgusting report on the Australia beach episode which stated that the whole thing was racially motivated by white supremecists against poor, pitiful muslim immigrants.
Not one mention of the attacks on the lifeguards, or the harassment and threats of women by the muslim males who disapprove of bathing suits. Not one word about the violent, criminal muslim gangs in Australian cities that even the police are afraid to confront. It was one of the most biased, inaccurate examples of tainted journalism I have ever read. It transcended political correctness; it was pure fiction. But I'm sure many who read it believed every word.
at December 28, 2005 3:07 PM
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