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Bravo, Ghada Jamshir. She speaks out against, among other things, mut'ah -- temporary marriages -- a thinly-disguised system of prostitution among Shi'ites which I discuss in Islam Unveiled. From MEMRITV, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
Following are excerpts from an interview with Bahraini women's rights activist Ghada Jamshir , which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on December 21, 2005.Interviewer: What do you have against the Shari'a courts?
Ghada Jamshir: I have a lot against them. What they have done to the Bahraini women is not a trivial matter. For years women have been going into these courts, only to be oppressed and treated unjustly. We have reached the point that we say: enough. We have reached the breaking point.
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Ghada Jamshir: Does the Islamic Shari'a authorize mut'ah marriages? Does the Islamic Shari'a authorize mut'ah according to the following classification: "Pleasure from sexual contact with her thighs." They have: "Pleasure from sexual touching." "pleasure from sexual contact with her breasts." "Pleasure from a little girl." Do you know what "pleasure from a little girl" means? It means that they derive sexual pleasure from a girl aged two, three, or four.
Interviewer: Let's not go into details...
Ghada Jamshir: Let me tell you what "Pleasure from sexual contact with her thighs" means...
Interviewer: Don't give me the details...
Ghada Jamshir: This is a violation of children's rights! This constitutes sexual assault of the girl. What does "pleasure from sexual contact with her thighs" mean? It means deriving sexual pleasure from an infant. How old is an infant? One year, a year and a half, a few months?
Is it conceivable for a grown man to have sex with an infant girl? And you people tell me that the Islamic Sharia authorizes this? Forget about the mut'ah. Let's talk about misyar. What do misyar marriages mean? You said that I'm a Sunni and that's why I'm attacking the Shiites. No!
Interviewer: Some people claim that.
Ghada Jamshir: No, no. What does the misyar marriage mean? A man marries a woman from another town, and goes to her once a month. He "visits" her. He calls her his "wife."
Interviewer: Not necessarily once a month. He might go there every day.
Ghada Jamshir: Brother Turki, this kind of marriage, this kind of behavior, diminishes the woman's honor as a human being....
Posted by Robert at December 29, 2005 8:02 AM
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Certainly we must see that one of the great lures of Islam is the complete license it allows men in sexual areas.
I am also very worried that women are becomming every bit as objectified in western culture today as they are under Islam.
What I don't understand is why hardly anyone says anything. Sexually explicit rap music, breast enhancement run amok, little girls hardly knowing what they do exhibiting the most aggressive sexual behavior imaginable...
The "signposts along the road" all say one thing: to borrow from John Derbyshire, we're DOOMED, DOOMED!
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at December 29, 2005 10:10 AM
Rebecca:
When I was a teenager, a fellow named Elvis was making his first debute on national televisions "the Ed Sullivan show". The way he presented his music physically had the teenage girls in a tizzie and he was considered quite obscene by most adult parents of that time. The Ed Sullivan Show had to show Elvis from the waste up when he arrived on the show in 1956. While in junior high school that was all teenage girls talked about, they even pleaded for our teachers to play Elvis songs in the class room with their 45 players. When Elvis hit the theaters with his very first movie in my town, they screamed hysterically through the whole movie, tore up theatre seats and many police had to be brought in to carry them out of the theater.
Today a teenager of that error such as myself sees no existence of a morale code in this country anymore. And as I have watched this continious moral decay occurring over the past 50 years from the pot smoking "love ins" of the 60s', to the Never ending pushing the envelope in the pursuit of perverting the First Amendment of the Constitution by a group who has always been in the forefront of diminishing our morale values from filthy language, to pornography, to removing Christianity from America. I WISH TO THANK THE ACLU!
Posted by: Mackie at December 29, 2005 10:47 AM
"She speaks out against, among other things, mut'ah -- temporary marriages -- a thinly-disguised system of prostition among Shi'ites"
Mr. Spencer, do you know what the Arabic term is for the virtual equivalent, in Sunni Islam, of Shiite mut'ah?
I saw it recently, but unfortunately did not note it down. I think it would be important to know the Sunni equivalent, lest Sunnis play the same game they play with another term, taqyah ("Oh, that's just a Shiite term, it has nothing to do with Sunni Islam").
at December 29, 2005 11:02 AM
PS: is the term I'm looking for misyar, as mentioned in this interview by Ghada Jamshir?
Posted by: Dr. Pepper at December 29, 2005 11:04 AM
She sounds like a passionate lady who really does care about the welfare of women and girls.
Brave as well, although thankfully the recent charges against her, of defaming sharia law, have been dropped. http://metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20051214-041203-7418r
More power to her elbow.
at December 29, 2005 11:07 AM
The sexual enslavement and the sexual perversions presented in the Koran and ahadith are among the best kept secrets about Islam.
Will the msm cover this brave woman's story? We at The Truth Project doubt it.
Posted by: WatchfulEye at December 29, 2005 11:57 AM
Allah's prophet was a pedophil, damn it!!! How dare this infidel woman try to stop Muslim men from knowing the sexual pleasures of a four year old Woman!!! If it's good for Allah's prophet Muhammad (may he be praised!!), it's good enough for Ahmed, Saeed, Mummar, Nazzar, Ali, Kazzam, Seseme, etc, etc, etc. May Allah send a thousand camels into her livingroom to take a sacred dump!!!
Posted by: Ironman Hondo at December 29, 2005 12:00 PM
Ironman Hondo:
I hopefully trust you are being quite facetious with your comment?
Posted by: Mackie at December 29, 2005 12:23 PM
I am very encouraged when I read articles like this one. The muslim women who struggle for their rights are to be applauded. They risk far more than western women in their struggle to be accepted as equal partners. Or perhaps in their case to simply no longer be the victims of their male's whims.
Posted by: fireangel at December 29, 2005 1:59 PM
Mackie, I believe it was something like 400 years into decline before the citizens of Rome were sensible of it. How long do you suppose the present decline has been going on? For a long, long time it was hardly noticable, but recently it seems to have taken a sharp downward turn.
Our problem today is that people don't know up from down. We assume that the last tick of the clock brings into being the most advanced point in civilization, but that can only disguise the fact that we are over an abyss for so long.
We're doomed.
Posted by: Rebecca JW at December 29, 2005 2:23 PM
"I am also very worried that women are becomming every bit as objectified in western culture today as they are under Islam."
-- posted by Rebecca JW
This is one of the most out-of-balance equivalence arguments I've heard yet. Are you angling for a leading lady role in Hollywood? If not that, maybe a professorship at Columbia or Georgetown?
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 29, 2005 3:22 PM
Rebecca JW,
You are probably right about 400 years for the decline of the Roman Empire. I believe the decline of the West can be traced to the "Reformation" and the "Enlightenment" so it has been more than 400 years for us.
Dr Pepper,
The Arabic word "Mut'ah" for a "temporary marriage" probably has the same root as the arabic word for prostitute or whore which is "sharmut" or "sharmuta" and is often used as an obscenity or curse such as "ibn sharmut" calling someone the son of a whore.
Like the old US commercial asked: "Please don't squeeze the Sharmuta"
Posted by: Provoslavni at December 29, 2005 3:40 PM
Mackie, I disagree strongly that our civilisation is in decline.
Do you blame it on Elvis? Well, I was more of a Beatles fan myself.
One of the many reasons why I hate Islam is simply because I love our western civilisation.
Posted by: Voltaire
at December 29, 2005 4:23 PM
"The muslim women who struggle for their rights are to be applauded."
-- posted by fireangel
It is terribly impolite to applaud at funerals.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at December 29, 2005 4:47 PM
Mackie:
"When I was a teenager, a fellow named Elvis was making his first debute on national televisions "the Ed Sullivan show"..."
Really, now. What's the difference between what you're positing in this post and the idiotarian leftists who scream that Jerry Falwell is "JUST LIKE BIN LADEN!!!!!"?
Are you seriously suggesting that Western pop culture is akin to a pedophilia-enabling Sharia society? If you are, shame on you. If you're not, may I suggest that you not paint with such a broad brush?
One of the things Islamofascists hate about us is the fun we have with our culture. Ed Sullivan's blue-nosed censors were a lot closer to the mullahs than to mainstream America.
I know we're fighting a wave of vulgarity and obscenity in this country that casts a pall on the freedoms we enjoy - but people who enjoy pornography in private are not the same as practitioners of mu'tah.
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Gryphon at December 29, 2005 4:48 PM
The Dread Pirate Gryphon,and Voltaire:
My Elvis responce was for the most part directed to Rebecca and for the both of us, a bit off topic here :
And no I don't blame Elvis at all, The music today, makes Elvis look like a saint. But I do stand by my observations over the past forty years plus that there has been a huge decline in morality in America during my life time.
Posted by: Mackie at December 29, 2005 8:15 PM
sharmuta and mut'ah are not related words
شرمطة means whore and is derived from the root شرمط (sharmata)which means to shread or tear
where as mut'ah متعة means temporary marriage for pleasure and comes from the root متع which meansto carry away or to take away or to be strong, firm or solid
at December 30, 2005 4:49 AM
Mackie trust me, I'm being sarcastic. I'm showing insanity by being insane. The prophet Muhammad was a sick puppy and his followers walk very closely in his foot steps.
Posted by: Ironman Hondo at December 30, 2005 3:25 PM
Not suggesting anything untoward, but didn't Michael Jackson relocate to Bahrain?
Posted by: islamophobic pride at December 30, 2005 4:01 PM
Ramy,
Thanks for the correction. That's why I was careful to say "probably" since I can't read Arabic.
I am around Arabic speaking people almost every day but like many who are only exposed to a language casually, I've learned mostly the prayers, the expressions of politeness, and (to my embarrassment) the obscenities.
It is curious that, even if the words are unrelated, mut'ah seems like an easy cover for activities with a sharmuta?
Interestingly, when I was a much younger man in college, a very attractive Shi'ite woman from Saudi Arabia proposed a three year mut'ah marriage with me. Being surprised at this (since I'm Christian) she explained that Shia were persecuted so bad in Arabia that her parents would approve. Then I realized, three years is how long she would have to be married to a US citizen to get a green card. Then she could sponser her whole family in to the US. Needless to say, although she remains my friend, I did not accept her offer.
Posted by: Provoslavni at December 31, 2005 2:33 AM
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