" Apparently, the 12 original pictures were not deemed bad enough to convince other Muslims that Muslims in Denmark are the victims of a campaign of religious hatred."

Taqiya in action. What a site to behold.

Posted by: spect8or at January 15, 2006 8:30 AM

Er, that should be "sight" to behold. (Internet era error.)

Posted by: spect8or at January 15, 2006 8:31 AM

Bravo, Denmark!

Posted by: voletti at January 15, 2006 9:04 AM

Hmmm...

The Muslims are better at this "insult Mohammad" stuff than we are.

Revealing a subtle, subconscious inner-loathing of Islam and a vital natural feeling of revolt, and simmering sense of protest against the pedophile prophet, that you knew (simply because human nature always secretly yearns for freedom, joy, creativity and self-expression) just HAD to be lurking in the supressed heart of every healthy 'Muslim'.

Three cheers for the new cartoons!

May their "upping the anty" reveal to themselves their own repugnance with the fascistic fatuities of the murderous Mo.

Posted by: profitsbeard at January 15, 2006 9:59 AM

I think that the smartest thing that some brave Denmark newspaper could do, is to publish some of the vicious cartoons published by the Islamic media that denigrates other non-muslim religions on a daily basis and by far the majority of it is directed at the Jewish religion.>>> In fact the more I think about it, it would be an excellent idea.

Posted by: Mackie at January 15, 2006 10:39 AM

BRAVO to Rasmussen!

My enthusiasm is dampened, however, by the question of whether the EU Court of Human Rights trumps Danish law?

they will take the newspaper to the European Court of Human Rights over the controversial publication.

Despite the outright rejection of an EU constitution , THE SUN reports, "now have an EU space programme, an EU criminal code, a defence agency, common asylum policy and a defence deal which trumps Nato.

Bat Ye'Or expounds on the threat of "Eurabia" and yet the prospect is still alive (shoved down Europeans throats piece meal) and threatening the freedoms Rasmussen believes are inalienable.

Fjordman posted an unsettling article that may bear on this case in the future as well:

EU abolishes rule of law

This week the Court of First Instance of the Luxemburg based Court of Justice of the European Communities ruled that decisions of the United Nations Security Council take precedence over national constitutions, European law and even the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms (ECHR). This ruling undermines the rule of law and the principles of the constitutional state and of democracy. The Court holds that even organisations (like the European Union) that are not members of the United Nations are bound by decisions of the UN Security Council. The Court’s verdict settled the case of one Ahmed Ali Yusuf, a Swede of Arab origin, whose funds had been frozen in November 2001 by the European authorities after a Sanctions Committee of the UN Security Council had put him on a list of alleged terrorists. Yusuf claimed that the sanctions are in breach of the Rome treaty, which states that EU law cannot lead to disciplinary actions against single individuals. He also asked to be allowed to prove his innocence in a court room. His lawyer said that by refusing judicial review of Security Council decisions and refusing Yusuf the right to prove his innocence before a court “they [the EU] have imposed a system that denies people their legal rights. It is a pitiable verdict, and Ahmed Yusuf is a loser. But the biggest loser is the EU itself. [The verdict] is completely unacceptable [and] raises questions about the EU’s position as regards the rule of law.” Ahmed Ali Yusuf will appeal to the European Court of Justice. Though terrorism should be combated by the international community, Wednesday’s verdict effectively implies (as Jos Verhulst pointed out) that decisions of the Politburo of the Chinese Communist Party can gain precedence over the European Human Rights Convention. China is a member of the Security Council and its position can determine the outcome of Security Council decisions. What is the value of “human rights” which in the hierarchy of values rank lower than the preferences of the Chinese CP.

Posted by: justamomof4 at January 15, 2006 10:47 AM

THE FIRST CARTOON IS SO AMATEURISH IT IS PATHETIC,AND THE OTHER TWO ARE NO MORE THE BAD PHOTOCOPIES OF PHOTOS
Here is a picture I have found that is more than five hundred years old,and depicts evil mohammed far better than any cartoon or drawing Ihave seen any-where else.

What is interesting is it was commissioned and painted by moslems

Please copy this picture and forward to freinds and other sites,and help expose the hypocrisy of the hate mongers that are using the danish cartoons to further the spread of the Islamic hate agenda

And for a lot more interesting pix

http://www.fomi.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21475&highlight=#21475

Posted by: shiva at January 15, 2006 10:56 AM

These three cartoons, made up by Danish Muslims for their Self-Declared Day of Deliberate Victimhood, are of a piece with the made-up photographs of made-up atrocities by Infidels circulating all over the Muslim, and especially Arab, world. These include those bestial Americans, taking time from building schools, hospitals, and water-treatment plants to "torture and rape and murder nine-year-old girls" (now why was that particular age chosen by the Muslims who fabricate such stories?), or for that matter, the famous forgery of the Muhammad al-Dura "killing" by those bestial Israelis, or all the other claimed "atrocities" -- little and big -- made up for mass consumption and carefully fed to the Arab world, and even the Western press, for decades.

And, alas, some of it sticks.

Posted by: Hugh at January 15, 2006 11:02 AM

When is Rasmussen up for re-election?

My money is that he'll be voted out and a tired Danish population will bring in a new Scandi to put the clamps down on free speech among white persons and they'll issue an Australian-style apology and then make an uncomfortable peace with the angry Moslems.

END O' THE RAINBOW POT O' GOLD END O' THE RAINBOW MODERATE MOSLEM MAN

When one population wants to relax and enjoy life, and the other is a perpetually marching 24/7 Energizer Bunny force that will never quit complaining and rallying and organizing and threatening...

Who's gonna win? Inevitably.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 15, 2006 11:23 AM

sorry
here is the right link

http://www.fomi.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21522&highlight=#21522

Posted by: shiva at January 15, 2006 11:32 AM

profitsbeard: "Revealing a subtle, subconscious inner-loathing of Islam and a vital natural feeling of revolt, and simmering sense of protest against the pedophile prophet, that you knew (simply because human nature always secretly yearns for freedom, joy, creativity and self-expression) just HAD to be lurking in the supressed heart of every healthy 'Muslim'."

Heh Heh. Maybe that's why Muslims feel compelled to say Peace Be Upon Him, every time they utter their prophet's name. The need to say it seems to betray some deep uncertainty about whether Mo IS at peace. Of course, if there is in fact a Hell, I somehow doubt Muhammad is resting too well and probably needs all the well-wishing he can get.

Posted by: Caroline at January 15, 2006 12:07 PM

"they will take the newspaper to the European Court of Human Rights over the controversial publication. Islam forbids the depiction of the Muslim prophet." Hopefully the Court of Human Rights will point out that Denmark, the newspapers in question and the cartoonists, are under no such prohibition to depict the Muslim's alleged prophet. Maybe they will even ask the Muslim accusers to prove that Mohammed is a prophet since there is not even one single prophecy in the Q'uran. Hopefully they will laugh at this attempt to impose Muslim restrictions on non-Muslims by severely restricting Denmark's freedom of speech. Horray for Denmark. They have more spine than the French.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at January 15, 2006 12:11 PM

Just part of the regular insanity of the Arab/Muslim mind. Normal, psychically-healthy individuals accept reality when the consequences are unpleasant or otherwise distasteful. The Arab/Muslim, however, lives in a fantasy world designed to be most emotionally gratifying to him. Thus if rage and self-pity are called for by the oppression of the "Arab nation" or Umma by Western Crusaders and Zionists, not only are objective facts twisted to fit this narrative, sometimes (acutally, all the time) they are simply made-up.

What's interesting, though, is the often schizophrenic nature of such fantasies. The Arab/Muslim is able to both deny the darker impulses of his psyche, and in the same breath admit to them. "Muslims could never perpetrate a monstrous crime like 9/11. It's a plot to make the world hate us." "Of course America deserved it." Or more recently: "The Holocaust is a myth." "Israel should be wiped off the map." Apparently there will be Holocaust conference in Iran to get to the bottom of things:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060115/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_holocaust

Posted by: emperor_diocletian at January 15, 2006 12:17 PM

"Akhmad Akkari, spokesman of the 21 Danish Muslim organizations which organized the tour, explained that the three drawings had been added to 'give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims.'"

Translation: "We must lie, distort and exaggerate to show the Truth."

Incredible. What a mentality. I'm speechless at how sick this is.

Posted by: Redhand at January 15, 2006 12:37 PM

Hugh: "...or all the other claimed "atrocities" -- little and big -- made up for mass consumption and carefully fed to the Arab world, and even the Western press, for decades."

Including "Pallywood" (for those who missed it the first time around - a must-see video):

http://www.seconddraft.org/movies.php

Posted by: Caroline at January 15, 2006 12:42 PM

The Arab/Muslim, however, lives in a fantasy world designed to be most emotionally gratifying to him.

This is very true. When they started their murder spree, there was some guilt among the original Moslems. But, in subsequent surahs and hadiths God and Mohammed worked tirelessly to assuage this guilt and to set hate and violence up as not only necessary, but as highly desirable.

MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM MORE HATE MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM TOO LATE

Do not ever underestimate the power of self-pity in the run-up to an unprovoked murder.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 15, 2006 1:00 PM

Does anyone have a link to the cartoons with translations into English? All I've seen are links to articles discussing the controversy, but maybe I've missed it.

G. Matthew Webb

Posted by: G. Matthew Webb at January 15, 2006 1:19 PM

“I am speechless that those people, whom we have given the right to live in Denmark and where they freely have chosen to stay, are now touring Arab countries and inciting antipathy towards Denmark and the Danish people,” Rasmussen told journalists yesterday.

Why oh why, did Europeans allow these savages into their shores. Its time they were all sent back to the countries they came from. It appears that they would be happier in the hellholes and not in civilized society. Ingratitude of the worst kind, spitting on the host country. IF THEY ARE SO UNHAPPY TELL THEM ALL TO LEAVE.

Posted by: faqi at January 15, 2006 1:40 PM

Recently, the top-rated late night comedy talk show, Late Night with Conan O'Brien showed three photos outrageously lampooning and ridiculing Jesus Christ. Not only is Conan O'Brien's show top-rated in America, Conan O'Brien himself has been accorded the singular honor of being chosen to replace Jay Leno in a couple of years, to become host of the Tonight Show.

Furthermore, this is not an isolated incident. The Conan show has lampooned Jesus, Moses, Jews and even God Himself (usually as a disembodied voice, but sometimes as the hackneyed figure with a white beard) innumerable times over the years.

Not once have they lampooned Mohammed, Muslims or Islam.

I have heard of no Christians complaining about Conan (or The Simpsons or South Park) to anywhere near the same degree as Muslims complain about these Danish cartoons.

And if what Conan did a few days ago with Jesus Christ had been done to Mohammed, it would have likely sparked murderous riots among Muslims at worst, or death fatwas issued at best.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper at January 15, 2006 2:34 PM

Emperor D,
It's interesting what you say about that Islamic ability to hold contradiction in such close proximity without being defeaned by the cognitive dissonance.

Reminds one of the weird juxtaposition between the intense rubrics for avoiding immodesty or sexual immorality--at the end of which list you hear that it's okay to rape women who don't happen to agree.

"We're a civilized nation, don't need nukes."
"Wipe Israel off the map."

"Western immodesty and sexual immorality are repugnant."
"Rape of the infidel (or the muslim woman who refuses you) is a Muslim right."

Why their heads don't explode, having issued implicit fatwas against themselves, I can't quite say.

Posted by: chickaloon at January 15, 2006 2:56 PM

G. Matthew,

The 12 Cartoons.

View them here
http://www.muslimparody.com/Danish.html

Or view them here with a thread discussing them.
http://www.newspaperindex.com/blog/2005/12/10/un-to-investigate-jyllands-posten-racism/#comments

Chickaloon,

They resolve it all with a little pill called "Allah knows best."

Posted by: Archimedes at January 15, 2006 3:06 PM

Muslims really are committed to free speech - look, there is a letter from various prominent European muslims!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,59-1984362,00.html

Astonishing hypocrisy!

Posted by: Obelisk1 at January 15, 2006 3:37 PM

Obelisk1, maybe they should also be defendents too, Peter Tatchell has more guts than any of our so called leaders. I can't wait for this trial to start on these homophobics.

Posted by: Daffersd at January 15, 2006 4:51 PM

"STOP! STOP! We ran out of virgins!"

I'm sorry, but that one was actualy pretty funny.

In the meanwhile, in Sweden, they released a brand of jeans with, for a logo, an inversed, flamming cross. On top of that, the designer didn't said it was just to apeal to yound disafected teenagers, he really said it was a comment on Christian religion.

But nobody gives a damn. Which is fine, this is what freespeach is about. But there is a sickening double-standard between muslims and christians that I cannot understand.

Posted by: Elliot at January 15, 2006 5:07 PM

I agree with you - but nothing much will come of it. The UK goverment was mostly uesless in the face of the Rushdie affair (another fine example of muslim commitment to free speech), and the level of appeasement of muslim censors in the UK is now entrenched at a frightening level.

Posted by: Obelisk1 at January 15, 2006 5:08 PM

How many more cartoons do we need to produce before the Muslims get the hint - get lost!

Posted by: Polish infideless at January 15, 2006 5:31 PM

None of this will stop until we have a politician, like Pym Fortuyn, who is willing to stand up and tell it like it is. Unfortunately, whoever does this, will initially receive such opprobrium, vilification, etc., that it will be very difficult to bear. No one would like to be portrayed as a new Hitler which is what would happen.

Things will keep going from bad to worse until such time as Westerners finally see the threat for what it is. Look at how Iran is being dealt with.

We will keep on muddling along until we are about to lose everything (just like with Hitler in 1939) and then we will finally do something. Unfortunately, with this kind of threat, it may take decades to get to that point. We shall see with Belgium, Holland and France. One of those countries may soon have enough Muslims to be a very significant political force and then we shall see what we shall see.

In the country where I live, there were at most a few thousand Muslims in 1970 when I was a boy. Now there are hundreds of thousands. So much has changed in such a short time. I know exactly how the Dutch feel. You slowly watch your own country being stolen out from under your feet. If you dare to say that is what is happening, you are called a racist or a bigot or even worse, a nationalist. Patriotism has become a dirty word. Believing that your country had some common values, that it stood for something is now not considered politically correct.

Posted by: Mentat at January 15, 2006 5:40 PM

Interestng to see how Muslims violate the Islamic prohibition on depicting Muhammed to advance their propaganda. This is yet another illustration of the obvious conclusion that the supreme Islamic commandment that takes precendence over everything else is: what is good for jihad is allowed. Depict Mohammed, eat pork, worship other gods, do whatever you please, as long as it helps to advance jihad.

Posted by: Liggett at January 15, 2006 5:40 PM

As I've said before, Rasmussen should publish millions of billboards, pamphlets, TV spots, whatever, with images lampooning Mohammed.

"Islamic creep" works well by increments. Force the issue by showing some balls and the ante is upped beyond the Moslems' reach.

MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM MORE MOSLEMS MORE ISLAM MORE MOSLEMS MORE

I'm sorry, did I say showing some balls? that would be Moslem Man, not Infidel M... ahhhh... not Infidel Male Gender Person.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at January 15, 2006 5:48 PM

"what is good for jihad is allowed"
-- from a posting above

"War is deception," according to Muhammad. Certainly no Muslims would disagree. Alas, still too many innocent Infidels do so. But because of one Muslim outrage after another, and the effect is cumulative, so that even if terrorism dies down, it will be too late, things are changing. People are overcoming their pious hopes and dreams that "everyone is the same," and beginning to see the light.

Posted by: Hugh at January 15, 2006 6:04 PM

Isn't it clear by now that all Muslims, in being part of the "ummah" are responsible for the entire onslaught of Islam against the West....?

Do you think, even if there are Muslims from among the population which would disagree with this shameful prevarication, does anyone believe such Muslims could ever dissuade their vile brethren for waging a disinformation campaign, or for agitating for more hatred against a Western nation?

We must not allow those Muslims who don't agree with this ruse to claim that it has nothing to do with them... Their very presence in Western lands, and the fact that they are Muslim REQUIRES of them the responsibility that we non-Mulims, those that have so generously allowed them to come here, need not worry about the consequences of our free speech -- even if it is found to be "offensive" to Muslims (and what isn't found to be offensive among Muslims? just about everything we do "offends" them...)

I hold them collectively responsible for this fraud... I hold them collectively responsible for forcing my government to clamp down on security, to abridge my rights as a law abiding citizen...

I live in fear in my own land because Muslims are here, because Muslims can't be trusted, because Muslim may attack at any time, and because Muslims show no sign that Islam is "reforming" or that Islam is capable or "reform" or that Islam is anything other than an ideological system which will degrade and eventually destroy my way of life if it isn't stopped...

Posted by: jsla at January 15, 2006 6:38 PM

Also -- I find the choices these Muslims made to "embellish" the pantheon of cartoons extremely interesting... They have provided a fascinating window into their own psyches... Muhammad raping a child? No big surprise there, and altogether accurate... But Muhammad as a pig snouted demon? A praying Muslim being "raped" by a dog??? Interesting... They have some serious issues, wouldn't you say? These additional cartoons are not only far more incendiary than the original 12, but they seem to indicate something about the Muslim's over developed sense of victimhood and humiliation...

They are certainly designed for maximum incitement value, which betrays the real agenda of course... The Muslim will use any pretext to enhance and dilate upon the rifts between us and them... They were aware that the dustup wasn't justifiable by the original 12, so, never wishing to miss an opportunity to gain and advantage, and incite more hatred of us, they invent 3 more choice "cartoons..."

What faithless spiders the Muslim be... How evil, how dastardly -- how much like pig snouted, dog dallying, child raping liars they seem to me -- those cartoons really helped to get some clarity...

Projection -- everything they blame us for -- oppression -- lack of freedoms -- violence -- victimization -- all of these ugly falsities they hurl at us and concoct are really revelations of what they would do to us if only given half a chance... They must be stopped...

Posted by: jsla at January 15, 2006 7:06 PM

jsla - even if I've neglected to say it outright to date (although I've been thinking it all along) - may I say right now that you really have a tremendous rhetorical gift? The only thing that has held me back from saying it out loud so far is that I don't want to jinx whatever it is.

So now I am forced to knock on wood...:-)

Posted by: Caroline at January 15, 2006 7:34 PM

The quality of the new cartoons was pretty low,
but they did hit a few points that I thought were
interesting.

(1) The "pedophile prophet" motif. That really
deserves something a lot better.

(2) The humping dog. Mohammadans sure hate dogs.
I'd have had the dog humping Mo while being
being supervised by Satan in Hell. But it
needs a funny, Gary Larsen'esque line to
go with it.

(3) Pig faced mohammad. Just not that funny. I
have a hard time with it, as I just can't
get the joke.

So, I'd really like to see much better versions
of cartoons 1 and 3.

Posted by: American at January 15, 2006 7:47 PM

Why did anyone expect the TRUTH from , the most blatant disinformers(see liars) in history,the notorious backstabbers of history, the non respecters of churches, embassies and human rights totally, the beheaders of children and the murderers of probably a billion humans since Muhammad rode off on his flying camel?

(anyone wish to do a rerospective count on the deaths due to Islam over 1450 years from not only direct murder but starvation and disease as they always burnt crops if they could not stay and always left unburied infected corpses if they could not throw them at you?)

Posted by: Zathras at January 15, 2006 9:14 PM

Dr. Pepper: You mention Conan O'brien's casual blasphemies, so I am glad that I never watch him. Obliski, did those Imams who wrote to the _Times_ stating homosexuality to be a sin say anything more than that? If so, I am with them, even though I see the Qur'an as blasphemy and Mo a great liar.

As for the Danish cartoons, someone ought to ask how many Danish actors, comedians, cartoonists, and the like make fun of such figures as Jesus Christ, various biblical figures, Luther, Bugenhagen, and the pietist heritage of certain sections of the Danish population. It also seems as if the offended Muslims are running around saying that unless the Dames start behaving, the Muslims will start lopping Danish heads until they do. Religion of peace, ai you! wo di niang!

Posted by: Kepha at January 15, 2006 9:30 PM

To the Alarmed Pig Farmer:

Rasmussen is up for re-election in 2009 (maybe earlier if the government sees a tactical advantage in calling for early elections) he was just reelected last year, so it will take some time before we see how the population will react. However he's very popular because the economy is better than ever, with a 3-4% annual growth rate and full employment. On a personal level he's blunt and straightforward, something that many admire. The economy is the most important ting for the electorate in this country, it's true that we have a LOT of focus on muslems these days, but it really isn't the only issue on the agenda here.

With him people know what they got, a determined hardliner, and this fits our mentality quite well, I think (he still has my vote!). But they don't know what they'll get if they vote for the opposition, at the moment there isn't any clear alternative.

And even if he ends up being voted out of office it would be ludicrous to say that that's somehow a victory for Islam since all major parties have agreed on a restrictive immigrationlaw, that's not a issue anymore.

If you think the muslems are inevitably going to win, you are wrong, we are too nationalistic in this country to ever allow that to happen. And apologizing isn't something we do well.

I have noticed that in other countries nationalism seems to have become sort of a taboo; Well, it isn't in Denmark. We will prevail, stay rest assured.

Posted by: odin, king of gods at January 15, 2006 10:17 PM

where again is the UN email address for this issue so that the Human Rights person who is invwetigating this will get the other side of this issue.Please is there anything I can do?

Posted by: mark52 at January 15, 2006 10:24 PM

Since 9/11 I've made it my business to learn all I can about islam, muslims and what they are all about. Consequently, I have viewed the pages on these sites (jihad/dhimmi watch) at least daily in all that time. Today I decided to join in (prompted by the WA police commissioner allowing the wearing of the hijab). By following links provided here, googling etc I now consider myself well-versed in ismalism and what it's all about.

To date, I have yet to see the words "sophistry" or "sophism" employed in discussion of the promotion of the multitude of Islamic causes.
Seems to me it fits perfectly.

Definitions from various sources:

Sophist
________________________________________
...an impostor in argument; a captious or fallacious reasoner.
http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/so/sophist221709.html

Sophism
The doctrine or mode of reasoning practiced by a sophist; hence, any fallacy designed to deceive.

Sophism
n. deceptive or fallacious argument. sophist, n. fallacious arguer. sophistic(al), a. sophisticate, v.i. make artificial or worldly; corrupt. sopyistry, n. sophism, or use of sophism; mere empty argument.

Sophism
n. - A deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone
n. - The doctrine or mode of reasoning practiced by a sophist; hence, any fallacy designed to deceive.

This latest effort to drum up "muslim anger" is just dripping with sophistry.

Posted by: SandiM at January 16, 2006 12:37 AM

It seems like the blood of Valhallah flows strongly in the Danes, they resoloutly defend free speech, and this is not the only issue in which the Brave Danes outdo the rest of Europe Combined.

http://www.ambtelaviv.um.dk/en/menu/TheEmbassy/News/InterviewwithPrimeMinisterAndersFoghRasmussen/

The rest of Europe maybe beggining to recede into the mysts of time, but Denmark, Greece (Despite the Dhimmi Church), and Israel shall endure, and maybe Italy will survive with them, it is too close to call in Italy though.

"(3) Pig faced mohammad. Just not that funny. I
have a hard time with it, as I just can't
get the joke."

American the point is to incite Muslims to become suicide bombers who will attack Denmark. The punchline is going to be explosions.

Posted by: NicephorusPhocas at January 16, 2006 12:49 AM

hi SandiM, good on you for taking the time to investigate. Most people just carry on as normal, more worried about the cricket or football scores and what's for dinner tonight. I'm a bit like you. Been reading a lot for the last few years, contributing a bit here and there. I'm waiting for the backlash from the everyday folk in the west who are being let down by the "authorities" but not sure if it will ever happen.

Posted by: leelion at January 16, 2006 2:26 AM

The cartoons would have had more impact if the color 'yellow' was used prominently......fitting for cowardly, infantile crybabies, heinous, evil, bullying cowards who insideously spread through civil-lations by child molestations and beheadings.
Ah, that's better - my BP is dropping.....

Posted by: GA_boy at January 16, 2006 2:33 AM

To NicephorusPhocas;

It just goes to show that 'Valhalla ain't for Allah', to put it in a poetic way...

Posted by: odin, king of gods at January 16, 2006 6:58 AM

remember folks, not a single Danish Jew died in the holocaust - the Danes evacuated all of them from under the noses of the Nazi authorities.

A fiercely nationalistic and proud bunch of people those Danes. They will most certainly NOT sucumb to the Muslims.

Unfortunately, the UK is a different matter - i only wish the UK had the balls of the plucky Danes.

Posted by: archduke at January 16, 2006 7:09 AM

To archduke;

Actually a few danish jew did get caught and were sent to death camps but it's true that the vast majority of the jews escaped to safety in Sweden.

http://www.thedanishsolution.org/

Posted by: odin, king of gods at January 16, 2006 7:37 AM

my apologies Odin.

however, this quote from that link says a heck of lot about the Danish people:

"After the war, more than 95% of the Jewish population returned to Denmark, FINDING THEIR HOMES AND BELONGINGS UNTOUCHED"

with that sort of character and integrity, it is no wonder that its the Danes who are defending free speech so steadfastly today.

Posted by: archduke at January 16, 2006 7:56 AM

To archduke;

The Danish experience under WW2 was quite different from that of the rest of Europe in several ways. Though most of the Jews escaped, the germans still carried out another purge: The arrest of the danish policeforce.

In the fall of 1944 the increasing activity of the danish resistance gave the germans more and more trouble. The danish army was disarmed and posed no threat to the germans but the danish policeforce was still working as normal. The germans suspected that the increased resistance was in part the result of a certain lack of willingness by the danish police to crack down on their own countrymen carrying out resistance activities due to sympathy with their cause.

In the end they decided to get rid of the danish policeforce alltogether. If you look at the chronology of events in the link, you will find that, quote: "09/19/44 Germans arrest most of the Danish police force. Two thousand are deported to concentration camps." Try and compare that with the 481 jews that were sent to the death camps. So though it may sound bizarre, it's a historical fact that MORE DANISH POLICEOFFICERS THAN DANISH JEWS DIED IN GERMAN KZ-CAMPS!

The irony of this whole thing is that the arrest and deportation of the police only served to strenghten the resistance because many policeofficers also managed to escape and obviously many of them joined the resistance.

Posted by: odin, king of gods at January 16, 2006 8:31 AM

slightly off topic , but have a look at this BBC dhimmi report

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4615636.stm

Spot the Israeli in that report?
Nah, me neither.

"Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal said in a BBC interview that the West was partly to blame for the crisis for allowing Israel to develop a nuclear arsenal."

blame the west blame the west blame the west

Posted by: archduke at January 16, 2006 9:37 AM

king of Gods, bravo! keep up the fight,

I have been to Denmark and it is true what you say, the Danes have to much pride in their civilized culture to ever throw it away to fanatical invaders.

I think that with Denmark, they picked the wrong country and they will lose.

Bravo Danes! your are leading the fight to save the future of Europe and are being as brave now as you were in the second world war, when you fought Hitler.

The world will remember that it was in tiny Denmark that Europe started to fight back.

Posted by: El Cid at January 16, 2006 9:44 AM

To El Cid and archduke, thanks for the kind words, it makes an old pagan warrior blush.

Speaking about fighting, here's a link to show how the viking spirit has unfolded over the years...

http://www.milhist.dk/index_uk.htm

Posted by: odin, king of gods at January 16, 2006 10:07 AM

This is all great, and I admire the Danes myself
for this, but before it all gets out of hand,
may I ask, why the !@#$ Denmark allowed so many
bass ackwards savages into the country in the
first place? If you want to feel noble about
helping the world I bet there are many African
Christians who would have been happy to move
to Denmark and would have enriched the country.
As is asked here many times, "looking back, was
letting mohammadans in a good idea?".

No offense to Denmark (America is worse on
this!) as I am sure many Danes are asking the
same question. As I'm sure you can guess, I
think the answer is a resounding NO.

Posted by: American at January 17, 2006 1:28 AM

"People are overcoming their pious hopes and dreams that "everyone is the same," and beginning to see the light. " - HF

Hugh, have you been getting into the happy pills again? I thought we hid those.

"I live in fear in my own land because Muslims are here, because Muslims can't be trusted, because Muslim may attack at any time, and because Muslims show no sign that Islam is "reforming" or that Islam is capable or "reform" or that Islam is anything other than an ideological system which will degrade and eventually destroy my way of life if it isn't stopped..." - jsla

Back from the world of dreams...oh crap, Islam's still here.

Posted by: Rebecca JW at January 17, 2006 7:17 AM

On the up side, I've never been so proud of my Danish heritage. I did not know the Danish history during the war and I thank you, odin, for making us remember what heros are really like and what a small nation that refuses to relinquish the heroic spirit can do. Inspiring

Posted by: Rebecca JW at January 17, 2006 7:19 AM

This is a fine example of the understanding that the Islamists have for a free system. Prime Minister Rassussen must maintain his resolve during this Islamic assult on Danish sovergnty. To bring Denmark before some stupid international body with trumped up evidence is beyond the pale.
But yet, under Islam, it is the thing to do. The koran states that if it is good for Islam to lie to spread Islam, do it!!! Welcome to Islam 101, Mr. Pirme Minister. You have just fallen into the crash course. Learn from it!!! The sovergnty of nation of Denmark is riding on how much you've learned!!!

Posted by: Ironman Hondo at January 17, 2006 2:33 PM