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January 26, 2006

Cartoon rage reaches Saudi Arabia

"Prophet drawings anger Saudi consumers," from the Copenhagen Post, with thanks to Filtrat:

Saudi Arabian consumers threaten to protest drawings of the prophet Mohammed by boycotting Arla Foods.

Arla Foods is concerned that a boycott of the company's products in
Saudi Arabia could cost billions if it takes widespread effect.

Saudi Arabian religious and political leaders encouraged consumers to boycott Danish-based Arla Foods' products during last Friday's weekly prayer service.

Since then, the call to has been repeated on national TV stations and newspapers accompanied by pictures of Arla products.

Arla, one of the world's largest producers of dairy products, has earnings worth DKK 3b in the Middle East and expected to open a major dairy facility in two weeks in Saudi Arabia.

Religious leaders called for the boycott as a way to respond to drawings of the prophet Mohammed printed in daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten last September. The newspaper printed 12 drawings of the prophet Mohammed last year as a way to challenge what it considered the intimidating tactics of fundamental islamists.

One Saudi Arabian chain of supermarkets has already removed Arla products from its shelves and called for an official apology.

Arla company feared the boycott could spread.

Posted by Robert at January 26, 2006 2:13 PM
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Well, I'll will be buying as much Arla produce as I can find.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 2:43 PM

I urge Danes everywhere to respond by boycotting all Saudi manufactured goods (that is, if they can find any).

Posted by: cruzado [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 2:44 PM

Yeah, the Danes could quit buying checkered dish towels.
I think they come form Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: R W Frog [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 3:17 PM

If there is still a reader here who hasn't seen this fine piece of artwork, a life-like rendition of Mohammed, please click now. And then print and scatter the image around the whole world. Take some pressure off the Danes, get the Muslims upset with everyone.

http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/

Also, I read that the Koran was written by a Jew. I read that the man was a captive who wrote out the Koran for the illiterate Muslims, and that to get some satisfaction he wrote the stupiest crap he could think of that our Muslim cousins now say is the direct word of God. Just an idea. I don't know if it's true.

Posted by: sonofwalker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 3:45 PM

The Saudi's can be hurt by boycotting the companies that they hold ownership/stock/or interest is.

I have seen in the past, and I am sure someone on this site can come up with a list of companies that the Saudi's have interest in. We already know on this site, from the bragging of one Saudi Prince that his stock holdings granted him a phone call to the head of FOX News.

Lets get a list and find out just exactly the Saudis own.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 4:25 PM

What are the brand names for Arla foods in America, if I don't already buy their products I will now become a new client, if I already do I will buy more.

Let all of us JW readers use our buying power and break this boycott.

Buying Arla stock, just a token amount, will help

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 4:32 PM

It now appears Saudia Arabia have recalled their Ambassador.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4651714.stm

Posted by: km [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 4:39 PM

km:

Maybe they can recall their ambassadors from all western countries, if we are lucky.

Posted by: johnb [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:10 PM

sonofwalker,

"Also, I read that the Koran was written by a Jew. I read that the man was a captive who wrote out the Koran for the illiterate Muslims, and that to get some satisfaction he wrote the stupiest crap he could think of that our Muslim cousins now say is the direct word of God. Just an idea. I don't know if it's true."

I'm not sure if the whole book was written by a Jew, but certainly parts of it were plagiarized from Jewish sources. http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/quran.htm

also

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Sources/cain.html

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:27 PM

Lets see Arla foods is in no way connected to the newspapers that printed the cartoons is it? If not then let Arla sue the boycott is based on error and is discriminatory. Let UN step in such boycotts for reasons of lies are the same as offensive to Muslims. This boycott is wrong and if they can do that then all things Muslim can be boycotted anything for 911.

Posted by: mark52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:41 PM

Last Updated: Thursday, 26 January 2006, 17:35 GMT

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Saudis recall envoy in Danish row

The cartoons prompted protests in Copenhagen
Saudi Arabia has recalled its ambassador to Denmark in a row about cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published by a best-selling newspaper.
A Saudi government spokesman said the ambassador had been recalled for talks following Denmark's failure to deal with the insults to the Prophet.

Some of the cartoons in Jyllands-Posten last September depicted him as a stereotype of an Islamic terrorist.

The paper said it was testing the boundaries of expression about Islam.

It said at the time that both the paper and the cartoonist had received threats.

Ambassadors from several Muslim countries complained to Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who had earlier said he could not tell papers what to print, or not to.

Islam bans any depiction of Muhammad or Allah.

Boycott

On Thursday, the Saudi government said it had recalled its ambassador "for consultations in light of the Danish government's lack of attention to insulting the Prophet Muhammad by its newspapers".

Danish food producers Arla Foods said the anger sparked by the cartoons had prompted a boycott of its dairy products in Saudi Arabia.

Arla director Finn Hansen said there had been calls for boycotting Danish products in Friday prayers and on Saudi television and in newspapers.

"We are certainly afraid this will spread across Saudi Arabia and affect our business," he told Reuters news agency.

There were street protests both in Denmark and in Muslim countries following the publication of the cartoons.


Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:52 PM

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much!"

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:58 PM

4 of the biggest retailers in Saudi Arabia has now removed Arla products from their shelves. It isn't just dairy and other food items that are being removed, industrial companies are reporting cancelled orders as well.
God, please don't let our PM cave. If you have to, take away the aid destined for muslim nations and redirect it to the companies suffering from this messed up boycott!

Posted by: DanishDynamite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 5:58 PM

This is clearly another example of Islam as a state-sponsored geopolitical Ideology. Since when did Muhammad become above criticism? He was not sinless and asked for Allah's mercy.

Will the Danish bow to fresh restrictions on their liberties or their companies. It reminds me of British aircompany BMI restricting the wearing of crosses of thei airhostesses on flights to Saudi Arabia.

They clearly bowed to the Saudis who do not respect or even tolerate the beliefs and practises of non-Muslims.

One way street again.

Posted by: Gerry [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 6:10 PM

The consumer relations manager for Arla foods is Louis Illum Honore.

His email address is louis.honore@arlafoods.com

His office number is +45 33 96 93 40

His private number is + 45 35 36 23 62

His mobile is + 45 40 62 98 08

Please contact him, and ask him where to buy Arla foods in your country, and what brand name they come under.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 6:50 PM

Also let him know that despite the boycott by Saudi Arabia, there are many people who will support Arla foods and buy their products as a way of giving support to Denmark and her refusal to be cowed by Islamic countries.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 6:54 PM

Every major newspaper in every country in which freedom of conscience, freedom of expression and freedom of speech are respected as rule of law should run prophet cartoons. The mohammedans can't boycott everyone, their shelves would be bare.

Posted by: Lisa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 7:03 PM

A litte bit of weirdo fun

January 26, 2006 -- Michael Jackson soared to new heights of weirdness, if that's possible, parading around the streets of Bahrain yesterday dressed as an Arab woman.

But the ultra-bizarre disguise didn't fool locals, who began pointing and gawking at the kooky King of Pop, shouting "Michael! Michael!"

"Please, no!" Wacko Jacko squealed in a high-pitched whine as he fled in panic.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/60983.htm

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 7:05 PM

As it is not possible to boycott Saudi products, such as oil, why not just boycott all Arab/muslim products.

Refrain from booking holidays to Egypt and other muslim countries - as well as advise people against going on holidays to muslim countries.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 7:43 PM

The Danes should stop all Muslim immigration.
It is alright if the Muslims to remark that the Holy Bible is currupted, and Jesus is not the Son of God and only a Prophet,inferior to Mohamed.. Christians should keep quiet for such nonsense.
More over,Christians are not fools to react like them for they know what is the real truth,and let the dogs bark,while the caravan moves on smoothly.
Unless the Danes give back in the same coin,these Islamists will go on doing this type of harasment to all non Muslims.
All the Western countries should join together and boycot Muslim Immigration. The time is ripening for that. Let them not dream of Islamisation of the west.

Posted by: rafia [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 8:05 PM

Please share any information gleaned about where
one can buy ANY Danish product in the US. I will
tip my wallet towards Denmark always now.

Saudi's pulling ambassador? Maybe they'll break of relations? Crap, someone needs to print 'toons like
that here!

You know, I bet if Denmark expelled all of their
Muslims that might make up for the loss of business.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 8:11 PM

What we have to do is to
Start Buying Fuel Efficient Cars...
NOW!!!

Stop using as much Islamo Faschist Oil as possible..

If it comes to it then i say to ALL the Muslim Nations..

Go Ahead Make My Day..
I will give you the wrench to help you shut off the oil spigot..

Then ALL westerners should pack up and Leave..

But one thing i want in exchange...

ALL Muslims to Get out of the WEST...
Then you can sit in your cavees and wait for allah..

Posted by: jingoist [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 8:16 PM

From ARLA's website:

http://www.arlafoods.com/APPL/HJ/HJ202COM/HJ202D01.NSF/O/3DE8AAFDECABBA97C12571020061F1C1

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 8:30 PM

Dear Mr Honore

Upon hearing about the boycott of you products in Saudi Arabia. which I think is a gross violation of your companies rights, I have decided to make an effort to find your product in stores in New York and try your products.

Voltaire I sent Arla this email.

Thanks to the publicity about this illegal boycott I have visited your website and learned more about the cheese products you sell In the United States. Your purchase of White Clover Dairy, is very interesting.

I will be looking for your products and will try them.

If consumers in Saudi Arabia don't buy your products them you are welcomed to sell as much as you can in America.

We need good cheese, and the publicity you are receiving because of the boycott is impossible to buy, as many Americans who have never heard about your company will know you now.

If the Saudi's doesn't want you, then America will and we are a much bigger market.

I suggest that others do the same

Posted by: El Cid [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 9:00 PM

I would love to boycot Saudi Products in return.
Besides caribou coffee which I already avoid and trying to not waste gas, what can I refuse to buy?

Posted by: grendel [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 9:04 PM

Am I missing something? The cartoons appeared in the Jyllands-Posten-- one Danish newspaper-- and the Saudi people want to boycott the whole country, and the royals recalled their ambassador?

Seems a bit like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer, doesn't it?

Here's Arla's page with the brands it sells in the USA:

http://www.arlafoodsusa.com/

A fine chunk of havarti sounds really good right about now.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 9:34 PM

Odin and Shinolite:

Thanks for the website link. I emailed them and indicated that I would look for their cheese in the USA.

Posted by: GFB [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 10:51 PM

Wouldn't it be funny (or maybe dangerous) to print out an enlarged picture of one of these cartoons and demonstrate in front of the Saudi embassy (I do not live in Washington DC)

Posted by: GFB [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 10:55 PM

I have just bought some Danish camembert. The brand is Rosenberg, and it's made by Arla foods.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 11:46 PM

I would point out, bitterly,
that no msm in all of north america, to my knowledge, have either reprinted the cartoons, or even come out 'in editorial support'....nothing, nada, zilch, total silence from our 'free press'.

The same disgrace attaches itself to the British msm, as far as i know.

Aaaaaaaargh.

I will contact Danish companies in my field to see what i can do.

Posted by: dby [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 11:48 PM

Danish Garden Preserves, just found them, very good. I'm trying to find a new Danish product to buy every time I go to the grocery store. Danish cheese looks very promising.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2006 11:49 PM

Mmm. Cheese with a message.

Posted by: Shinoliite [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 12:19 AM

I just sent an email of support to Arla. I will be looking for Danish food products also, everyone remember that Danish canned hams are pretty good and are PORK!!!!!


Matthew 15:11 (NIV)
"What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean." The words of Jesus, the truth.

With all the vitrole pouring forth from the mouths of these "holy people" we can see what is UNCLEAN!!

Posted by: disciple [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 1:59 AM

boycott arab oil. http://www.araboilboycott.com/sites/araboilboycott/index.asp

Posted by: werter5075 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 2:03 AM

islamic comic book. http://islamcomicbook.com/01.htm

Posted by: werter5075 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 2:09 AM

We met at McDonald's, we wore blue scarves, we are triumphant! We will continue to win. We're going to continue to meet and we'll keep on getting stronger. We didn't match the numbers of people who went to the Blue Revolution rally in Paris today, but we did our parts and we succeeded simply by doing so. We don't have a billion zombies and billions of dollars in petty cash to finance craziness. We have people who are concerned about the lives of people and the future of Humanity. That's one difference between us and the Muslims: we joined up to do something creative and positive. No, the Saudi Ambassador refused to meet us. Yes, we are going to boycott his country's dairy products. But not we are not threatening to kill anyone. We are threatening to make the world a safer place for everyone.

Posted by: sonofwalker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 2:42 AM

I'm a graphic artist and cartoonist and I have to say I admire and support the publishing of these cartoons, and the courage of the artists involved. I think the MAD FASCIST MUSLIM REACTION completely vindicates and illustrates the point of publishing the cartoons in the first place.
This extreme reation speaks volumes about their own insecurity and doubts they must have about their wonderful 'religion'.

I'd support Arla products here in Australia. Just out of interest,are cheese and meat the primary products from this company?

Posted by: mistyhymen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 3:06 AM

I'm a graphic artist and cartoonist and I have to say I admire and support the publishing of these cartoons, and the courage of the artists involved. I think the MAD FASCIST MUSLIM REACTION completely vindicates and illustrates the point of publishing the cartoons in the first place.
This extreme reation speaks volumes about their own insecurity and doubts they must have about their wonderful 'religion'.

I'd support Arla products here in Australia. Just out of interest,are cheese and meat the only products from this company?

Posted by: mistyhymen [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 3:07 AM

Anyone who buys a Persian carpet is supporting child slavery. Think about it! Its a fact.

Posted by: PrinceHarry [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 3:15 AM

Misty, if you have graphics I can post, please let me know. I'm always happy to do any such thing.

Click on my name below and let me know what you'd like me to do.

Posted by: sonofwalker [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 3:40 AM

Son of Walker, 5 people, including myself, turned up at McDonald's in Sydney. Only two of us had blue scarves, but that's neither here nor there. We had a really good talk for a few hours and exchanged numbers.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 4:23 AM

Son of Walker. I have mailed Claude Reichman in France about the fantastic efforts that yourself, Voltaire, Rebecca and others have done.

Should anyone be interested in how the Paris event went. Please read Son of Walker's blog for the report.

Posted by: Sebastien [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 5:25 AM

To mistyhymen;

"The Arla Foods Group exclusively produces milk-based products." - from the website.

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 5:44 AM

Just got an email from Arla foods. They sell Lurpak Danish butter, Rosenberg - Danish white and blue cheeses, Harvati is sold under the red Arla brand and Viking brand,(also blue cheese).

If you live in Australia, then you can just go to your local Coles or Woolworths where they are sold.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 6:07 AM

DP111:

Egyptian Sandmonkey actually has a picture of Wacko in his burka. How can you tell it's Wacko? I suspect the sunglasses were the tip-off. What I can't tell, from this rather dark and blurry shot, is if the kid's head is draped in a cloth too. Oh, the Bahrainis must so love having him in their midst.

http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/

Posted by: waterdragon52 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 8:53 AM

Michael Jackson soared to new heights of weirdness...

Yes, he has. Now that Michael is going Moslem he has finally landed at the absolute bottom of the cultural barrel, as wierd and as bizarre as he can ever be. Let the burkha be his final cover.

Michael and Islam go well together. Especially the pedophilia part. How many masturbatory fantasies are playing out right now, as we speak, across Dar al-Islam and even the whole wide world, with millions of gasping and jerking and groaning Moslem Men, shut eyes all a-squint, dreaming of that they too can be like Mike.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2006 1:14 PM

It is strange how low minded you all are, I guess you have not follwoed the news, you should notice by now how boycoting is affecting the DENAMRK.....the are kissing ass to have respect again in the ARAB WORLD. enjoy hell.

Posted by: khaled [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 12:19 PM

FREEDOM IS NOT ATTACKING THE OTHERS BELIFES .SUCH CARTOONS DONE BY PEOPLE WHO IS FULL OF HATE AND PREJUEDECE , AS WELL AS WHO EVER SUPPORTS IT OR ACCEPT IT ...WHAT A DARK CULTURE THAT INSULTING OTHERS BELIFES ,THEY STUPIDLY CALL IT FREEDOM OF SPEECH .. BOYCUTTING BUYING PRODUCTS IS A CIVLIZES WAY TO TO ALERT OTHERS THAT U HAVE CROSSED YOUR LIMMITS .. BY THE WAY THIS ONLY FOR OPEN MINDED ONLY .. STUPID BE A WAY

Posted by: musa [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 5:35 PM

To those of you who aid the cartoon incident and freedom of speech: Educate yourself, it is ignorance that brings upon hatred of ethnicity and religion. Keep in mind that freedom of speech crosses its boundaries when it becomes RACISM. When the (Copenhagen Post) posted these cartoons, they represented Denmark; Denmark accepted and promoted these anti-Semitic depictions of the Prophet Mohammed in turn portraying them as a Racist Society towards religion. Imagine a cartoon, portraying a black man being humiliated by a KKK member by any shape or form; would that also be acceptable by the Danes as freedom of Speech? Degrading any race or religion by the form of a cartoon or otherwise, is being racist towards this religion’s people; in turn, directly having biased views toward these people’s racial origins. RELIGIOUS RACISM is a serious matter worldwide, and should not be taken lightly.

Posted by: Miriam [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 6:22 PM

To Miriam,

First, get your facts straight, it wasn't the Copenhagen Post who posted these cartoons but another newspaper, Jyllands Posten (JP).

Second, these cartoons were tastefully done and have nothing to do with racism. If they had been cartoons of Jesus noone would have made such a fuss, the problem is that muslems demand special treatment, they don't seem to have any respect for free speech. What has the world come to if you can't publish cartoons anymore?

Third, for the danish government to give an apology for what an independent newspaper has decided to print is absurd. Could you imagine the american administration apologizing for cartoons in the New York Post?

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 7:22 PM

I'm a SAUDI MUSLIM WOMAN

For a change, I'll comment with some facts:

Not all Muslims are Arabs - Persians, Turks, South-east Asians are not Arabs, they are Muslims - so don't mix them up.

Freedom of speech is granted- so you say. But once you weigh it against globalisation its not worth much is it? That's why American and British media will not print the cartoons - VERY RIGHT they are, even if for the wrong reason.

If you have freedom of speech, we have freedom of action - if we want to boycott Danish products we will. The Danes are clearly affected .. in fact by August 2006 they will lose an estimated 36 billion euros if the boycott continues - and it will. I would say that's pretty serious .. don't you?

and by the way, go ahead PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE boycott our oil. You are most welcome to do so. If there's one intelligent soul reading this just check on who in OPEC is keeping the price of oil steady by producing more and more - SAUDI ARABIA!!! (believe it or not). Its only the taxes imposed by your governments on you that increases it enormously, in fact by more than 12 times of what its worth.

Now for all of you who are attacking the type of reaction and illustrating it as excessive, step aside and let me educate you. Muslims strongly believe in Allah - and by the way you can call him God because there is only one God anyways, isn't that right? I know at least the Jews and Christians will agree although I don't know why they think He is a different one?! All three religions were delivered by prophets, Mohammed being the prophet of Islam. Every Muslim has to obey the teachings and abide by them as best they can these are prescribed by the Quran (God's words) and Sunna which is everything the Prophet Mohammed Peace be upon him said and did. Islam is a religion of peace and the prophet is a symbol of peace, which is why any association with terrorism is an unjust obscuring of its essence and will not be accepted or tolerated.

Now let me tell you a story, Prophet Mohammed had a Jewish neighbor who would continuously put his rubbish in front of the Prophet's door. So one day the Prophet doesn't find any rubbish, and what do you think he does? He's worried that something happened to his Jewish neighbor and goes and checks on him only to find him sick. So he visited him to inquire about his health.

This is only one simple lesson that a true Muslim will live by. For us religion is not some kind of hobby that we practice when we feel like or do once a week for a short time, we live by it and it give our lives meaning.

P.S. To all non-boycotter, enjoy Danish cheese!


Posted by: 1Muslim [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 7:35 PM

1muslim:

Is this the same mohammed who had 600 Jews slaughtered or some other mohammed?

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 10:25 PM

1Muslim:

Great post. Why not meet us halfway here, ok? We'll boycott your oil and you BOYCOTT OUR COUNTRIES. Stay in Saudia Arabia. Dismantle your airplanes; your cars; telephones; everything. They were all invented and brought to you by filthy, unclean Westerner infidel-pigs. You sully yourself by adopting our modern conveniences. You cheapen yourself by sending your children to our countries for their education and medical care. BOYCOTT OUR COUNTRIES. Stay in Saudia Arabia. Stay in Yemen. Stay in Iran. It's a win-win situation, no?

Posted by: modern prometheus [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2006 10:55 PM

To 1muslem,

"That's why American and British media will not print the cartoons - VERY RIGHT they are, even if for the wrong reason."

They don't print them because the western media has become afraid to defend freedom of speech - except in fortunate places like Denmark.

"The Danes are clearly affected .. in fact by August 2006 they will lose an estimated 36 billion euros if the boycott continues - and it will. I would say that's pretty serious .. don't you?"

No, because what you write is absolute nonsense. The danish trade with the arab world is around 5 billion danish kroner a year or less than 700 million euro. Sure it's a loss for the company's that deal with the middle east but it's not going to ruin us as a country. So THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN FORCE US TO MAKE AN APOLOGY!!! Chew on that! :)

"Its only the taxes imposed by your governments on you that increases it enormously, in fact by more than 12 times of what its worth."

Alternative energy ressources are being explored ask we speak. In a way I'm happy for any crisis between the oilproducing arab nations and the west, because it only increase the incentive to develop these new technologies.

"Islam is a religion of peace..."

Spread by the sword.

"... and the prophet is a symbol of peace, which is why any association with terrorism is an unjust obscuring of its essence and will not be accepted or tolerated."

You obviously don't know what freedom is. On the one hand you say he's a symbol of peace, on the other hand you are so afraid of critizism that a few innocent cartoons is enough for you people to react in a grotesque manner, boycotting and threatening.

"Now let me tell you a story... ...visited him to inquire about his health."

What about that story where Mohammad killed 900 jews?

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 29, 2006 7:11 AM

Thanks for your comments, keep them coming!

To modern prometheus:

"Great post."

I totally agree it was a great post, you see we CAN agree on something.

"We'll boycott your oil and you BOYCOTT OUR COUNTRIES."

I'd like to see you try boycotting our oil, use your 'democracy' and petition your governments to do so. The sky's the limit.

"Stay in Saudia Arabia. Dismantle your airplanes; your cars; telephones; everything. They were all invented and brought to you by filthy, unclean Westerner infidel-pigs."

Wow, your facts are screwed up. Go back to what people call BOOKS (they are rectangular little things that contain lots of paper with writings on them, they usually contain information and can be found in the LIBRARY). While Europe was in the dark ages, sciences flourished and advanced greatly by Islamic scholars. From us you have your medicine, astrology, algebra, physics... etc. If you have ever been to a university you should know these things. Even your number are ARABIC numerals. Imagine a world without a zero (added by a Muslim), we wouldn't have computers and we wouldn't be having this friendly exchange. Why don't you boycott the zero??? You wouldn't want anything from us wouldl you, that just cheapens you.

"You sully yourself by adopting our modern conveniences. You cheapen yourself by sending your children to our countries for their education and medical care. BOYCOTT OUR COUNTRIES."

You people should make up your minds, do you want to 'liberate' us and make us think and act the way you do - by accepting insults - just because you are helpless in such situations doesn't mean that we will take it. OR do you want us to stay away and live the way we want to.

"Stay in Saudia Arabia. Stay in Yemen. Stay in Iran. It's a win-win situation, no?"

Congratulations you managed to put together 3 islamic countries, that must have drained you. You know there are more, but I'll let you take a breather before you attempt to find them. Good luck.


To odin, -the socalled- king of gods:

""That's why American and British media will not print the cartoons - VERY RIGHT they are, even if for the wrong reason."
They don't print them because the western media has become afraid to defend freedom of speech - except in fortunate places like Denmark. "

The western media actually has a brain, freedom of speech doesn't measure up when trade and economics are involved. You should know that even if you have an opinion there is always a right time and place to express it. Would you tell your boss what you think of him?? not as long as he will sac you and he has the right to do so. The customer is always right and we're the customer. Live with it.

""The Danes are clearly affected .. in fact by August 2006 they will lose an estimated 36 billion euros if the boycott continues - and it will. I would say that's pretty serious .. don't you?"
No, because what you write is absolute nonsense. The danish trade with the arab world is around 5 billion danish kroner a year or less than 700 million euro. Sure it's a loss for the company's that deal with the middle east but it's not going to ruin us as a country."

Then why the big fuss, just let us have our fun and outsource different types of cheese in the future, why are you even bothered?

"So THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN FORCE US TO MAKE AN APOLOGY!!! Chew on that! :)"

By now no apology will do so just stick it.. Our newspapers won't even allow the apology to run.

""Its only the taxes imposed by your governments on you that increases it enormously, in fact by more than 12 times of what its worth."
Alternative energy ressources are being explored ask we speak. In a way I'm happy for any crisis between the oilproducing arab nations and the west, because it only increase the incentive to develop these new technologies."

For once I totally agree with you. Renewable energy is the way to go, anyone for solar power?

""Islam is a religion of peace..."
Spread by the sword."

All religions have been spread by force when governments would boycott them being introduced (no freedom of speech then, what a shame!). Even though Muslims conquered lands from China to Spain, anyone not wanting to become a Muslim was allowed to do so and they were tolerated and respected. I don't need to compare the spread of Islam to others, I don't have that much time and I don't think you have the mental capacity to take it in at once.

"You obviously don't know what freedom is. On the one hand you say he's a symbol of peace, on the other hand you are so afraid of critizism that a few innocent cartoons is enough for you people to react in a grotesque manner, boycotting and threatening."

So you're saying we're not allowed to express our anger? Isn't that against your 'freedom'? Please go ahead and critize, any open exchange is welcome if the purpose is to bring across a valid point. That's when we will actually engage in a meaningful conversation. If the purpose is just to insult us, we'll show you that you are beneath us.


To DP111 & odin, -the socalled- king of gods:

"Is this the same mohammed who had 600 Jews slaughtered or some other mohammed?"

""Now let me tell you a story... ...visited him to inquire about his health."
What about that story where Mohammad killed 900 jews?"

I suggest the two of you talk to each other first and get your numbers right, then we can talk about what you're actually saying. It might help if you can add a place and date so that people actually know what you're talking about.

In conclusion:

Why do you even care so much about Muslims? Are you afraid of their solidarity? or have you just realized that we will not be trampled?


P.S. Don't forget to add lots of fiber to your diets, we wouldn't want to be blamed for hard crap. ;)

Posted by: 1Muslim [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 29, 2006 9:18 AM

1muslim:

1. The amount of misinformation in your post shows the disadvantages of only reading ONE book. Get into the 21th century!

2. Denmark has its own oil resources and an oil exporter too. Furthermore we are the world's largest producer and exporter of windmill technology so you can stick Arab oil where the sun never shines.

3. I really hope the boykot escalates so that Denmark can win business in the free world instead. Danish products are to good for fundamentalists anyway.

4. Furthermore it will bring us closer the "show down" with the "Danish" muslim traitors who recently travelled the Middle East to oppose the Arabs against the very country that bid these "people" welcome when they were needing a safe harbour. I'm disgusted!!

5.

Posted by: IvanDK [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 29, 2006 9:27 AM

1Muslim 2Muslim RedMuslim Blue Muslim:

“I'd like to see you try boycotting our oil, use your 'democracy' and petition your governments to do so. The sky's the limit.”

I’d like to see you try boycotting our countries. Seriously, if your desert utopias are just that, stay they hell in Saudi Arabia and suffocate under the weight of your own ignorance. It’s that simple.

“Go back to what people call BOOKS”

You mean there’s a book other than the Koran?

“While Europe was in the dark ages, sciences flourished and advanced greatly by Islamic scholars.”

Too bad the religious zealots and Mohammadean monsters forced all serious Islamic scholars OUT of the Ummah. You neglect that part of the equation. And hey, what have you done for us lately?

“Even your number are ARABIC numerals. Imagine a world without a zero (added by a Muslim)”

And the arabs are still using Arabic numerals today! Oh, wait, no they’re not!!! Another “invention” Muslims took from pre-Islamic India. Furthermore, pig-intestines for brains, the ZERO was not invented by Muslims—it was a concept in existence for centuries. Now, I won’t blame you for your ignorance. I’d expect as much from people who think that jews comes from apes and pigs and are who frightened by girls' ankles.

“Why don't you boycott the zero??? You wouldn't want anything from us wouldl you, that just cheapens you.”

Let’s go back to the original point which you haven’t addressed: boycott our countries.

“You people should make up your minds, do you want to 'liberate' us and make us think and act the way you do - by accepting insults - just because you are helpless in such situations doesn't mean that we will take it. OR do you want us to stay away and live the way we want to.”

No, we want the rational, freedom-loving individuals oppressed by mindless drones like you to be liberated. Obviously the concept of liberation is far too much for a Koran-junkie like you to comprehend; considering there can be no liberation except through submission—to the words of an egomaniacal, illiterate pedophile. My hero!

Congratulations you managed to put together 3 islamic countries, that must have drained you. You know there are more, but I'll let you take a breather before you attempt to find them. Good luck.”

I’ll do my best, but depending on who gets there first: me or the B52s, some of those countries may or may not exist for much longer.

Posted by: modern prometheus [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 29, 2006 11:02 AM

To 1muslem,

"The western media actually has a brain, freedom of speech doesn't measure up when trade and economics are involved."

More nonsense. Newspapers and TV-stations in the west are INDEPENDENT and most of them don't have any economic incentive not to write critical stories about Islam (an exception is f.ex. The Economist who has many readers in the arab countries). No, they are AFRAID to critizise Islam because they fear for their lives, ever since 9/11 and especially after the murder of the Dutch filmmaker Thoe van Gogh in 2004, this has been a problem. The whole point of printing these cartoons was to proove that freedom of speech still exists here in the west and that the media won't bow to threats from thugs who wan't to take away it's journalistic independence, which is fundamental for any democracy. But of course you don't know what democracy is, coming from a backwards, authoritarian dictatorship like Saudi Arabia.

"You should know that even if you have an opinion there is always a right time and place to express it."

Agreed. And the hysterical and childish reaction from the muslem world proove that this was EXACTLY the right time to do it!

"Would you tell your boss what you think of him??"

I wouldn't work for somebody who can't tolerate critizism, so yes.

"not as long as he will sac you and he has the right to do so. The customer is always right and we're the customer. Live with it."

No 'customer' has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of our country and try to make us surrender our democratic rights in such an aggressive manner because they feel 'offended'. I'm offended by that, actually!

"Then why the big fuss, just let us have our fun and outsource different types of cheese in the future, why are you even bothered?"

Erm, we are not the ones who make a big fuss out of this, it's the muslem world who has reacted hysterically. Without that reaction this would have been forgotten long ago. I recommend you read this article by a (surprisingly sane) muslem woman who's against this boycott:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=5&article_id=21654

"By now no apology will do so just stick it.. Our newspapers won't even allow the apology to run."

So we have reached the point of no return, have we? 40 years of good relations between Denmark and Saudi Arabia have been washed down the drain just because of 12 sissy cartoons in an independent danish newspaper? I'm impressed by how 'moderate' you muslems are.

"For once I totally agree with you. Renewable energy is the way to go, anyone for solar power?"

Yes. And different types of biofuel to replace oil.

"I don't need to compare the spread of Islam to others, I don't have that much time and I don't think you have the mental capacity to take it in at once."

Oh, you don't have time, well that's too bad. Funny, how you muslems stubbornly claim that Islam is a religion of peace, but you just hate to talk about how Islam spread across the globe.

"So you're saying we're not allowed to express our anger? Isn't that against your 'freedom'?"

Sure it's okay for you to 'express your anger' but when you ask from us that we should bend our democracy and punish a newspaper that hasnt done anything illegal in our country, you're asking too much. Generations have fought and died for this freedom we have and there's no way we're going to turn back.

"Please go ahead and critize, any open exchange is welcome if the purpose is to bring across a valid point. That's when we will actually engage in a meaningful conversation."

Of course.

"If the purpose is just to insult us, we'll show you that you are beneath us."

Beneath you? Oh, I forgot, I'm a pagan nonbeliever. In Norse mythology there are many gods and Odin is the king of Gods, like Jupiter in Roman mythology and Zeus in the greek mythology. We pagans don't know about the concept of 'insulting' the Gods, they all have human characteristica, they are more powerful than humans but share all human weaknesses. Sometimes they will take revenge. Sometimes they won't. There are no rules for this, in the monotheistic religions like Islam, Christianity and Judaism there are too many *#¤*"#* rules!

"I suggest the two of you talk to each other first and get your numbers right, then we can talk about what you're actually saying. It might help if you can add a place and date so that people actually know what you're talking about."

I'm talking about the revenge that Mohammad took on the Jews who, in connection with the siege of Medina, were killed. He killed around 600 male members of a jewish tribe (some sources say 900) and sold the women and children into slavery.

"Why do you even care so much about Muslims? Are you afraid of their solidarity? or have you just realized that we will not be trampled?"

To the extent that your solidarity leads to aggressive behavior against nonbelievers, then yes I am afraid.

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 29, 2006 12:02 PM

Aiight Lets test your freedom of speech!

boycott our oil, I Dare you you can't oh ! did I startled? I dare you you can not

and since most of the Members in this forum are sick and Anti-Muslims or Anti-Arabs (don't get me wrong there is still people visiting this forum who are still having their brains activated and they are fare and balanced and not Foxnews brain washed)let me ask you this lets say I am not an Arab and I am not a Muslim and deal with my questions as an American and as a believer in Jesus is the lord etc......

q1- why there was this outrages statements and anger from the Jews and Americans and Europeans when the Irani President Said the Holocaust never existed? isn't that a freedom of speech?
or you guys don't believe in the freedom of speech

q2-when Mc'Vay ( don't know if I am spelling his name correctly) when he bombed the Federal Building in the U.S was not called a Christian-terrorist by the Muslim media? or why the Muslim media did not commercialized the statement "Christianity-terrorism"
although he was a white Christian redneck?
but now whenever there is something going on we say Islamic-terrorism and not terrorism?

q3-Israel has been spying on the U.S and being funded by your TAXES by the U.S Government
why the Americans are so happy with that?

q4-if you are so peace loving people why would you accept that civilians are being killed everyday by your own nations made polite,rockets , war machines etc....

q5-why there is no Muslim dares to even drew a bad picture of Jesus or say that he is terrorist or even hint or suspect his holiness while you guys are screwing with our religion and believes and our prophet?

q6-how can you claim that Jesus is your lord and savior while you make statements like this!
""Jesus Fucking Christ and Doggy style Merry""
source is from Jarhead Movie!!!! and so many other statements, ""God Can Kiss my ass""
From Dusk Till Dawn

Jesus Fucking Christ??????????? Doggy Style Merry????????? God can Kiss My Ass ?????
Fuck I am not Christian and I can not say that about them!!!!!!!!!! and I ask god to forgive me for saying it now for he knows I said it to clear my point

how can you talk about your lord like this?

q7- Re above statement not all Christians talk like this about Jesus only the bad ones you mean the Terrorist ones?


q8-Free Speech as in Free Media as in Jerry Springer show?

Is that what you want the World to think about Americans and Christians ? The Mom is sleeping with the Son and The sister is Pregnant from her Uncle and The 13YO kid is married toa 40YO women and a preteen Girl is Beating and swearing at her Mother cuz she is not letting her sleeping with 15 men
Is this the kinda Image you want the People to take About Christians or who are bounded with Christian Religion?

Excuse me! but I am A better Christian that you are and I am A Muslim
I follow Jesus Teachings more that you do!

So Please Ignorant People don't answer this
only someone with Brains may post an answer

And As our Prophet Mohammed Said
If you wanna speak, speak good or Mute

An Arab-Muslim Who believes in Jesus

Posted by: SayWhatYouSay [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 30, 2006 7:39 AM

ISLAM -

IS VERY NICE RELIGION... IF YOU ONLY KNOW ABOUT ISLAM...BECAUSE IT RESPECT ALL TYPES OF RELIGION.

TO DENMARK PRESS PUBLISHER. YOU ARE EDUACATED PEOPLE AND YOU RESPECT YOUR OWN RELIGION. PLEASE RESPECT OTHERS RELIGION.

MY ALMIGHTY GUIDE YOU FOR YOUR MISTAKE....

Posted by: forhumanity [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 31, 2006 7:57 AM

Really, there is something silly.........i cannot stop buying oil from saudi arabia and at the same time i don`t care at all about danish products.....who is denmark?

Posted by: Miller_911 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 5:31 PM

Let us speak luodly, we should not be involved in this events. People asked about protcting danish products, heeey.. this is their own problem not ours!

Posted by: Miller_911 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 5:40 PM

I am sure at the end, the DENEMARK will make a APOLOGY and they will forget the speech freedom.

those people can do any thing for MONY even the person of them can kill his father for mony

Posted by: Abdurazaq [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 6:21 PM

To Abdurazaq,

Freedom of speech means as much to us as Allah does to you, so how likely do you think it is that we apologize?

And what's that BS about us doing anything for money?? You're obviously a brainwashed muslim moron, Denmark has actually GIVEN a lot of money to the muslim world over the years.

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 1, 2006 8:37 PM

Can you please tell me where and when they Give us mony? and even if this happened, this will be for political puposes and NOT becouse you love Us (as we see clearly thse days).

I am not brainwashed but We live in small town and we know the big gap between the rich and poor people in your contries.

CAN YOU please tell me more about your speach freedom, few days before a 2 islamic chanels stoped in holland, and a hundreds of islamic websites stoped by your MOM USA.

finally we did not do any thing wrong, if you have freedom to do say any thing, also we have a freedom to buy any goods.

Posted by: Abdurazaq [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 2, 2006 4:26 PM

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