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This is the same school that Muslims want to transform into an Islamic school. From our Islam-Respects-Other-Religions Department: "Muslim parents to meet church over school row," from The Herald, with thanks to Twostellas:
Catholic church leaders will meet Muslim parents this week after their children were withdrawn from a primary school Mass. Divisions over religion deepened at St Albert's RC primary in Pollokshields, Glasgow, after parents withdrew children during Friday's service.The action prompted Father John Gannon, the parish priest who celebrated the Mass, to describe the Muslim parents as "extremists". The parents in turn accused the churchman of potentially inciting "religious and racial hatred".
However, a spokesman for the Catholic church confirmed it was due to meet parents in an attempt to resolve the situation.
He added: "St Albert's is a Catholic school and therefore it is perfectly normal for a priest to celebrate Mass there regularly. Children at the school are taught to respect all faiths and no-one is obliged to assist at religious ceremonies . . . Those who chose to disrupt the children's observance with noisy protest do themselves no favours."
Around 12 Muslim pupils were removed from the Mass following claims that the children were forced to participate in monthly services because teachers were unable to supervise them elsewhere.
The allegations were used to add weight last month to Muslim calls for the school to change its faith so that it could better represent the make-up of its 300-plus pupils, who are predominantly Islamic.
However, Father Gannon criticised the parents' actions during his Sunday sermon at St Albert's Church. He spoke of how a dozen protesters gathered just before Mass started.
He said: "Had this been about attendance at Mass, they would have followed the regulations and given the school advance notice, as indeed one person did.
"By their deliberate and sustained disruption it is clear that their intention was to show their contempt for the Christian faith.
"It was especially ironic that they chose to deliver this insult on the day Muslims throughout Europe were expressing outrage at the disrespect shown to their prophet."
Posted by Robert at February 7, 2006 11:50 AM
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By their deliberate and sustained disruption it is clear that their intention was to show their contempt for the Christian faith.
Father Gannon is being sanguine, here.
Their intention is to push the Christian faith into a state of express Dhimmitude. Just like the sacred Islamic scriptures say.
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at February 7, 2006 11:55 AM
God saves my catholic priest, brave!!!
Posted by: Franze at February 7, 2006 12:07 PM
"...Children at the school are taught to respect all faiths and no-one is obliged to assist at religious ceremonies . . ."
No can do:
Islam teaches that only Allah is guilty of worship and Mo is his prophet.
No tolerance but hatred and head-chopping is what the sons of Allah have in store for Christians and 'idolaters'...
All in line with OBL's 'invitation to accept Islam'...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 7, 2006 12:12 PM
If I were Fr. Gannon, I would institute a mandatory annual observance of the victories at Lepanto and Vienna, each culminating with a High Mass, pre-Vatican II missal. Muslim students unwilling to "assist" would be expelled and given a tuition refund. Better to close the school than to have it overrun with fascists.
Posted by: Lepanto at February 7, 2006 12:39 PM
What a bunch of crap.
No one forced them to send their kids to a Catholic school, but apparently they didn't get the memo that the Catholic curriculum just might include some things here and there about being Catholic.
I attended Catholic schools from kindergarten through high school; particularly in the high school, there was always a small but significant Muslim population. This pattern continues, even after the opening of an "Islamic Academy" in town, as apparently some parents foresee more potential in their daughters than being baby-bearing-burqa-bots.
They went to Mass with the rest of us, and even recited the prayers. They said they had no problem with the "Hail Mary" on account of the esteem in which Maryam is held in Islam, and, at least in my opinion, Sura 1 of the Koran is somewhat of a watered-down knockoff of the "Our Father."
The only accomodations I recall is that they were able to fast during Ramadan and provided a room to pray in during the lunch hour for those couple of weeks. I can recall two students starting to wear hijabs, but "headdresses of any kind" were banned in the dress code the following year. Kind of pointless in an all-girls' school, anyway, one would think.
Posted by: Shinoliite at February 7, 2006 12:45 PM
The meeting should be short and quick, simply to inform these parents that every student who was involved in this protest will be immediately expelled. If they want an Islamic education then they can start their own schools, or better, go back to Pakistan.
Posted by: Provoslavni at February 7, 2006 1:09 PM
The good Padre should perhaps be grateful that he wasn't shot in the back, as was the Italian priest in Turkey two days ago.
Infiltration, disruption, subversion. The pattern is clear.
The Moslem provocateurs have already made an impression on the non-Moslem children, setting their mindset for future relations between the Catholic and Moslem communities. This need in no sense be one of intimidation, however. A robust response from the Catholic parents and from the school administration go a long way towards teaching their children the need to set boundaries on behavior that are justifiable for anyone living in a civilized society and how these boundaries can be defended.
Posted by: Chatillon at February 7, 2006 1:11 PM
Why are they in the school? Let them attend the excellent all-Muslim schools they can so easily create for themselves, and enjoy the benefits of the same kind of education available, with the results we all see, in Saudi Arabia, or the Sudan, or Pakistan, or the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Posted by: Hugh at February 7, 2006 1:35 PM
I hope that twostellas can follow up with any news of the scheduled meeting that is to take place to resolve the situation. Hopefully, the priest and school board will be tough and some explusions will take place. I know that parochial school budgets can be tight, but wouldn't it be better to accept Catholic/Christian students from families with limited resources and figure out ways to barter for the tuitions and stretch the budget. Let the Muslims fund and educate their own children. They obviously belief that St. Albert's is theirs to take. The Catholic parents and parishioners should do everything to keep St. Albert's as it is and not allow it to become the A.Q.Khan School for Future Bombers.
Posted by: maryrose at February 7, 2006 2:01 PM
Its truly sad what is taking place in the UK. Muslims who were allowed in as guest workers now want to take over everywhere they make up a majority. They hate everything in the West - They want to create in the UK a replicar of the backward villages that they came from in Pakistan and Bangaladesh. Its time the UK public took some action to stop this nonsense and ask the Muslims to live like westerners and assimilate or go back to the backwards countries that they came from.
Posted by: faqi at February 7, 2006 2:16 PM
Who funds the parochial schools in the UK?
Posted by: Chatillon at February 7, 2006 4:37 PM
This act of brazen boldness disgusts me to the core. Who the hell do these demons think they are? What will it take to stop the death march of islam?
A massive population shift. Move all orthodox and/or fundamentalist islamists to any muslim country, regardless of whether or not they were born in a non-muslim country. They are proving day after day after bloody day, that islam is not compatible with Western societies; their threats and evil deeds are the same threats and evil deeds done by Nazi's in WWII. Declare PC a bad experiment and let free speech reign, even if it hurts the feelings of this hateful group of despots and tyrants. Out. Now.
No Islam
Know Peace
at February 7, 2006 5:58 PM
Return their money and tell the student's parents NO THANKS! As a parent I choose the appropriate school for my children. If this Catholic school is not to their liking......then a responsible parent would take their children out. Once again.....MUSLIMS....trying to invade their host cell.......chemo is necessary.
Posted by: rumoret at February 7, 2006 6:05 PM
THis is deeply disturbing to me. I know that catholic school tuitions are lower because of the low saleries of the "vow of poverty" teachers, and the subsidies from church donations. So essentiallly if you give money to a parish that has a local school you are helping fund the children. That;s fine if they are catholic, but what if they are not? My money will go to Subsidise Muslims??? The only reason why the parents send them there is cause they are probably cheapskates! Either make it a requirement that only CHRISTIANS can enroll or if it truly is a vast majority of students are Mooslims then close down the school and let them educate themselves. These Catolicos gotta realise that "converting" a Muslim is virtually impossable, their family will disown them. stop pissing in the wind.
Posted by: MataMoros at February 7, 2006 6:17 PM
Australia spends $ 100 million annually to support mosques and madrassahs.
That has to stop: Aussies, lets make a petition to the government!
Its us against them!
at February 7, 2006 7:20 PM
Check this out:
http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/
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at February 7, 2006 7:26 PM
Sorry the second link doesn't work. Scroll down on the first link and check out 'western mothers, eastern mothers..."
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at February 7, 2006 7:28 PM
Why is Australia, or any other Western country, spending a cent on mosques and madrasas? Is it the old "if we don't do it the Saudis will" notion, forgetting that Saudi and other foreign money can be kept out, and that there is no obligation to spend public money either on religious institutions, or those that help train up people in what is contained in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira. And before this tragicomedy continues much further, would it be too much to ask the government of Australia to assign a task force to study very carefully, and without the officiously-offered help of local Muslims well-schooled in diverting and distracting attention, and in keeping hidden the principle of "naskh" or abrogation, and able to keep up a steady patter to make Infidels unsure of themselves as they read what is so obviously written in Qur'an, and especially the Hadith and the Sira. Let their contents be undersetood, thoroughly asisiimilated, and disseminated far and wide. That is the first step in some kind of Great Awakening.
Posted by: Hugh at February 7, 2006 8:55 PM
Here's an old article. Note how the Principal isn't allowed to sit in on classes.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050110/10muslims.htm
Europe's identity crisis
A growing Muslim minority is challenging Europe's view of itself
By Anna Mulrine
1/10/05
BERLIN--Told that she couldn't sit in on religion classes for the Muslim students at Rixdorfer Elementary School, Marion Berning went into the classroom anyway on the pretext of fixing a window. What she found stunned and angered her. The teacher was saying that "women are for the house, for the children. And the girls were sitting like this," she says, placing her hands in her lap, slumping her shoulders in an imitation of a meek posture, and casting her eyes downward. "While all of the boys," she is yelling now, "they were talking and playing. This is fundamentalism."
Berning isn't a nosy meddler. She is the principal at Rixdorfer school in the Berlin neighborhood known as Little Istanbul, where Turkish markets line the streets and Muslim worshipers file into discreet prayer rooms down back alleys. And these days her job is complicated by a widening gulf among her students. There have been more fights and more name-calling incidents at Rixdorfer, Berning says, since a German court granted an umbrella group called the Islamic Federation the right to teach religion classes in Berlin schools--where 8 percent of students are Turkish Muslims. Muslim girls are dropping out of sports classes and field trips, she says, and there are fewer friendships between Muslim and non-Muslim students. Although the Islamic Federation is under observation by the German Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which suspects the group of being an extremist organization, the religion classes continue.
In Britain, in the basement day-care center of a church near London's Hyde Park, a Christian group holds a workshop on heckling Muslims at the park's famous Speakers' Corner. Participants then head there for the afternoon debates. One recent Sunday, a spectator denounced an imam as a Muslim extremist, though at the time the imam was decrying violence in the name of Islam. The preacher didn't respond, but someone in the crowd did. "Yes, my friend, I am an extremist," the man said. "And I hope my children are extremists." Some verbal exchanges have escalated into fights, leading the British government, with the backing of the Muslim Council of Britain, to consider new laws against inciting religious hatred that could have the effect of restricting free speech in a place long considered one of the world's great locales for open debate.
Across western Europe, religious leaders, educators, and policymakers describe a social collision between Muslims and non-Muslims. At its nucleus, they say, are radically different ideas about what constitutes religious extremism--and what is Islamophobia. Tensions have erupted into open hostility on the heels of several key events--from the debate over European Union membership for Turkey and the ban on head scarves in French schools to the commuter-train bombings in Madrid (linked to a Moroccan terrorist cell) and the murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, allegedly by a Dutch-Moroccan Muslim radical. Some 80 percent of Muslims polled in a recent survey of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, based in London, reported feeling harassed and discriminated against, up from 35 percent in 1999. "It was really quite shocking for us," says Arzu Merali, the commission's director of research. "Muslims feel under siege."
this is just page one, link for the rest.
at February 7, 2006 11:27 PM
As the danish cartoolinst said: "we gave them a finger and they've taken the whole arm."
Posted by: restitutor orbis at February 8, 2006 9:12 AM
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