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February 8, 2006

Fitzgerald: When will NATO meet?

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald discusses ongoing Western dhimmitude in the face of cartoon rage:

It has been too easy for those willing to make excuses for frenzied Muslim mobs, and their smooth defenders of the Tariq Ramadan variety, to explain it all away, and to make the newspaper in Denmark, and the government in Denmark, and the other newspapers in Europe feel that they are somehow guilty. According to the silly H. D. S. Greenway in The Boston Globe, they were merely "fanning the flames" or "throwing gas on the fire" or some such -- when in fact they were behaving, those other newspapers in Europe, exactly as they should have behaved, and exactly as American newspapers should be behaving, but are not.

They are guilty of nothing. When a Danish newspaper written for Danes in Denmark decides to publish the most anodyne (by Western standards) of cartoons about Muhammad, it has every right to do so. It has the right, and it also has the duty to do so, as it turns out -- for it is important for the Western world to see the attitude of everyone toward those cartoons.

We now have our answer. Danish Muslims have been busy whipping up hatred toward the country they have been permitted to live in. This should be enough for Danish authorities: those whipping up such hatred should be expelled if they are non-citizens. Measures should also be taken to insure that others who essentially work to endanger the lives of Danish people, and to hinder the enforcement of Danish freedoms, and to imperil the continued existence of the Danish state, are stripped of their citizenship where they have obtained it, and expelled as well -- back to those "civilizations," as they are optimistically called, where Islam rules and Islam dominates.

No, not content with the anodyne cartoons, Danish Muslims had three other cartoons made up, designed deliberately to inflame the most primitive passions of Muslim mobs. They toured the Middle East, whipping up support wherever they could. They not only knew of the result, but they worked as hard as they could to obtain that result -- a result which has led to the removal of Arab ambassadors, to an economic boycott, to attacks on Danish missions across the Muslim world, and to a situation where Danes themselves, tourists or diplomats, must now fear for their lives wherever they travel in the Muslim world.

The test has taken place. The Danish Muslims have shown themselves to be traitors, in the complete sense. The world's Muslims, including the smoothest talkers, or the supposed "moderates" -- like Hamid Karzai -- have revealed to the Infidels the very severe limits on their moderation. They have manifested their complete inability to grasp the concepts of individual rights. They fail to understand how truly awful those Muslim mobs are, and are seen to be by hundreds of millions of Infidels who are now having the scales ripped from their eyes -- not by anything they are told by their largely timid or in some cases appeasement-minded leaders (what other description of Jack Straw would fit?), but by the acts of the Muslims themselves?

Yes, those cartoons do constitute a testing of the freedom of an advanced, tolerant, Western people to not only have a right "in theory" but in fact. Holding to free speech only “in theory” is apparently what some recommend now: Westerners should exercise free speech "responsibly." In other words, we should never ever exercise it in a way that would offend Muslims -- for that would not be "responsible" given the supposedly inevitable Muslim response, would it? Yes, because it is "foreseeable" -- in the good old Hadley v. Baxendale manner, we should all have foreseen their reaction, and thus engaged in self-censorship. That is the line being counselled by assorted appeasers, from bow-tied, Chinese-vased Greenway to his brother-under-the-skin, Pat Buchanan.

The test has taken place. It has been a smashing success. The Danish Muslims, and the world's Muslims, have failed utterly. And the Infidels are waking up. That is, those who not in the Jack Straw line are waking up: the ones who constitute the thinking proportion of the public, who have not yet been brainwashed by the counselors of "responsible" use of a right -- meaning don't arouse the enemies of Western rights, don't arouse the primitives or hint that they are primitive, because otherwise, they will behave in primitive and dangerous fashion.

Meanwhile, the Western world has not exactly rallied around Denmark, as it ought to -- beginning with a meeting of NATO, at which its members should declare these attacks on one member state, Denmark, to be an attack on all the member states, and wherever there have been attempts to cut off economic or other relations with Denmark, the members of NATO will themselves sever ties. Don't want to buy Danish goods? Well, you won't be buying from any member of NATO, then.

There has to be a rallying round Denmark. It is not for Denmark alone. It is for the rights of the Western world. They need to be upheld, not partially, not merely "responsibly so that Muslims are not offended." They need to be upheld in a way that demonstrates that Muslims are not calling the shots all over the world.

When will NATO meet?

Posted by Robert at February 8, 2006 12:03 PM
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I'd be happy if our governments could simply blame the riots on the rioters instead of the papers which printed the cartoons. Baby steps first.

Posted by: Beagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 12:36 PM

H. D. S. Greenway in The Boston Globe......

Years ago he pushed me over the edge with his anti Israel op ed columns. I dropped the Globe because of this bastard and started with the Boston Herald. And I was a liberal back then so it was hard to give up the Globe's superior culture and arts coverage. Today I could care less about such left slanted cultural coverage. I'm bored by it

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 12:46 PM

Lots of good insights, Hugh. I took would expel such back stabbing Muslims. Strip acquired citizenship if need be. I would expel wives and children back to the Muslim dung pits they hatched in. I would expel & strip citizenship of children born on Danish soil if their Muslim parents are expelled

I want to see what happens to these Imam traitors when they return to danish soil. Denmark is crazy not to rid themselves of such termites after they serve prison terms for the damage created, economic and otherwise

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 12:53 PM

There will be no blaming the rioters for the riots, such comments dont take into account the liberal view that someone else is ALWAYS responsible for your own actions. Its just easier to blame others than to look yourself in the mirror.

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 12:54 PM

"Meanwhile, the Western world has not exactly rallied around Denmark, as it ought to -- beginning with a meeting of NATO, at which its members should declare these attacks on one member state, Denmark, to be an attack on all the member states, and wherever there have been attempts to cut off economic or other relations with Denmark, the members of NATO will themselves sever ties. Don't want to buy Danish goods? Well, you won't be buying from any member of NATO, then." --Hugh

We need to stand with Denmark. Although the Danes are being isolated, unfairly, by the Islamists, we should all reflect on the fact that this could happen to any of us. (We must understand that this as an attack on all of us). A determined Islamist could comb the newspapers of any free democratic country and pluck out a sample of images and words that could be presented as offensive to Islam. That Islamist could then take his sample of material to the sheikhs in Saudi Arabia and other clerics throughout other Islamic countries to whip up fury.

The cartoons were indeed anodyne--they could have been much worse but the cartoonists exercised restraint in order to avoid excessive offence. In other words, the cartoons themselves are already to a considerable extent edited. All the regular readers here know that Mohammad is documented in the Islamic texts as having committed every major crime known to humankind. And he was a terrorist by his own account and by Allah's. As Hirsi Ali has pointed out, several major artistic productions about Mohammad and Islam have been cancelled, banned, or censored. We should not get the impression, as conveyed in the mainstream media of Anglo-Saxon countries, that the cartoons somehow went "over the line". What line?

The most objected-to cartoon out of the lot depicted a bomb on Mohammad's head. But ask the artist of his intent. He simply meant to depict the association made by Islamists, and merely reflected by the cartoonist. Everyone who justifies or makes excuses for Palestinian suicide bombers put that bomb on Mohammad's head. And as has been pointed out many times at this website, there is ample Islamic doctrinal support for the suicide bombers.

Self-proclaimed moderate Muslims could have interpreted the cartoon in a positive way. They could have reacted with "Alright, the problem of Islamic terrorism, which defames our prophet, must be dealt with. Enough is enough. Let's go to the Middle East and drum up support among the imams and sheikhs, and Hamas, to stop this practice. They must follow Mohammad's (Meccan)* peaceful policies." That this did not happen, compared against what did happen, tells us a great deal about the state of Islamism and moderate Islam today. The moderates are too busy being offended themselves, as well as trying to convince the non-Muslims that Islam is RoP, to do anything about the actual problems--terrorism, misogyny, intolerance, angry overreaction, lack of free speech--highlighted in the cartoons.

*I don't believe the Meccan policies were truly peaceful, but rather that some moderates genuinely interpret them as such. They have not yet swayed the Islamists over to their point of view. Such attempts have been met with great hostility.

Posted by: Archimedes [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 2:28 PM

A few things.

1. The government in Denmark and some support parties has decided to take a very close and critical look at the immigration papers of those imams that traveled around in ME.

2. Nasar Khader (a danish muslim politician) has blasted the imams and said that what they did was treason and they should be expelled.

Posted by: Canman [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 2:45 PM

I once heard it said:

"If a right is not absolute, you have absolutely no right."

Posted by: Razorskarr [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 3:15 PM

At some point there will be a showdown. Let us make certain that we are not the side that loses. So far, technology outstrips mobs howling their rage--no matter what their numbers. We must not hesitate to use our technology to beat back the assault on our freedoms, morality, and way of life. They are the enemy who seek our submission or our death, not an ideology that begs only to be "understood."

Posted by: unicorns62000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 6:33 PM

Yep, all the muslims would have to do is say to themselves,"oops, they're going to hell for that, too bad for them".

Posted by: kentim [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 7:12 PM

Muslims are never wrong they are always right. With an attitude such as this it is difficult to have a dialogue, they are always the victims until they take over.
Poor Denmark was let down by the the two countries the UK & US. What a shame.

Posted by: faqi [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 9:43 PM

The idea that Muslims actually BELIEVE that western democracies and their citizens ANSWER to ISLAM IS A F*CKING OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We don't. And we never will!

Islam can crawl back into the dark hole in the universe both it and 'allah' crawled out of!

And by the way, for those who haven't noticed, Islam is absolutely and diametrically OPPOSED to the concepts any non-Muslims perceive as being 'good'. Truly, nothing 'good' as we know goodness to be exists in Islam. Not at all. It's just not there. Islam is just a dark hole that sucks the life out of humanity one bomb at a time.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 10:52 PM

NATO will not rally around Denmark for this simple reason: Europe has conditioned itself to be hyper-vigilant against any resurgence of Fascism and Nazism, and this hyper-vigilance has been linked with a PC multi-culturalism whereby it has become apodictic dogma that any condemnation of a Third World culture (particularly so great and noble a culture as Islam) would tend to invite a recidivism of Fascism and Nazism. (And the thought that Islam itself represents a rising type of Fascism is not only unthinkable to the mechanism of this hyper-vigilance, but would, in the framework of that mechanism, itself represent a Fascistic, Islamophobic "tendency".)

The modern West -- and particularly Europe -- is profoundly locked into this equation, and the more anyone tries to oppose it, the more they will dig in their heels. With such a mindset, it seems likely that only several and disparately placed catacylismic attacks by Muslims throughout Europe would shake the kaleidoscope sufficiently to begin the process of a paradigm shift.

Posted by: Dr. Pepper [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 8, 2006 11:48 PM

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