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February 10, 2006

Denmark's Rasmussen: Eurodhimmis "disgraceful"

One of the foremost contrary voices in this silly and suicidal age in the West, Anders Fogh Rasmussen of Denmark, scores Eurodhimmis for trying to dissociate themselves from Denmark. "Dane Sees Greed and Politics in the Crisis," from the New York Times, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

COPENHAGEN, Feb. 9 — Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Thursday that attempts by European companies in the Middle East to disassociate themselves from Denmark or Danish products were "disgraceful."...

Looking tired after what he acknowledged had been a difficult week, Mr. Rasmussen said in an interview that attempts to gain commercial advantage at Denmark's expense had struck at the hearts of all Danes.

Mr. Rasmussen did not refer to a particular business organization or country. But his response came in reply to a question referring to attempts in the Arab world by companies associated with Nestlé, the Swiss food giant, and Carrefour, the French retailer, to distance themselves from Denmark. Danish industry estimates it has lost more than $55 million in sales in the Middle East since the furor began a week ago....

Mr. Rasmussen reiterated that there would be no Danish apology for the cartoons. He brushed aside any suggestion that Denmark's policies requiring immigrants to accommodate themselves to Danish tradition were at fault, and asserted, "We are on the right track." More broadly, he said, "I see a very clear tendency that other European countries will go in our direction."...

Note the hypocrisy: someone -- the New Duranty Times doesn't tell us who -- made the suggestion that Denmark's policies requiring immigrants to accommodate themselves to Danish tradition were at fault. Yet during the French riots we heard again and again that they were caused by France's policies of not requiring immigrants to accommodate themselves to French tradition. It seems as if Europeans are damned if they do, damned if they don't, when it comes to dealing with their Muslim immigrant populations.

"We have religious extremists who exploit the situation and fuel the flames to pursue their own agenda," he said. "Religious extremists aim at destabilizing the situation in the whole region."

The issue will be discussed this week at a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Sicily, he said.

Hmmm. Maybe someone at NATO is reading Jihad Watch.

Mr. Rasmussen said he believed that Islam was compatible with democracy but argued that it was incumbent on Muslim immigrants in Denmark and Europe in general to embrace the liberal values of their adopted countries.

"Denmark is a liberal country," he said. "We do believe in individual liberty and freedom. People can live according to their own customs. However, I think we have to insist on respecting our core values, including freedom of expression, gender equality for women and men, and a clear distinction between politics and religion."

He will soon discover, if he hasn't already, that large numbers of Muslims in Denmark don't endorse freedom of expression, gender equality for women and men, and a clear distinction between politics and religion.

Mr. Rasmussen said the perception of Denmark in the Muslim world had been distorted by falsehoods spread by cellphone and Internet messages across the Middle East.

In particular, he said the government was re-evaluating relations with local Muslim leaders who traveled to the Middle East in December, stoking tensions by showing the cartoons to religious leaders.

Posted by Robert at February 10, 2006 7:10 AM
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Posted by: IceViking [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 7:34 AM

"Note the hypocrisy: someone -- the New Duranty Times doesn't tell us who -- made the suggestion that Denmark's policies requiring immigrants to accommodate themselves to Danish tradition were at fault. "

good point.

And don't new U.S. citizens have to hold the flag in one hand, raise the other hand, and swear an oath of allegiance to the United States?

And doesnt the U.S. have checks on whether you can get into the country - like are you member of a communist party, associated with terrorists, etc etc ?

that is all the Danes are trying to do - emulate in some way the American model.

And hasn't the New Duranty Times realised that American history is NOT once of multiculturalism - it's the melting pot approach. You're American first, whatever after.

That's why in Britain, you have tens of thousands of young muslims who call themselves Muslim first, British second.

In the U.S. its the complete opposite.

Posted by: archduke [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 7:44 AM

"He will soon discover, if he hasn't already, that large numbers of Muslims in Denmark don't endorse freedom of expression, gender equality for women and men, and a clear distinction between politics and religion."

i'm pretty sure he does already Robert - when the French riots kicked off last year, there was the little reported Muslim riots in Aarhus, Denmark at the same time.

Now, when was the last time native Danes rioted about ANYTHING?

from the article:
"Mr. Rasmussen said he believed that Islam was compatible with democracy BUT argued that it was incumbent on Muslim immigrants in Denmark and Europe in general to EMBRACE the liberal values of their adopted countries."

the BUT is very important. "embrace" even more so.

He's sending a clear signal - if you dont like European freedom, then get the hell out of Europe.

The upcoming NATO meeting is also intriguing.

Might we see tentative moves to offer Israel membership -or at least some sort of defense pact to protect them from the Iranians.

I hope so.

Posted by: archduke [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 7:55 AM

Denmark leads the world!


I spit on the dhimmi media of France, England and the US. What a disgrace to humanity and freedom!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 7:59 AM

Im with ya sheik, the almost total absence of coverage in the free world makes me fear for the future of my children.

Little Denmark has more courage than the totality of other western nations, and this finger-wagging we are directing at the Danes is abominable.

Its really just a matter of time before the savages attack Denmark, and then what? Will we blame them for the death, preach to them that their 'intolerance' caused the attack and explain that they should have been more multicultural?

Im so tired of the constant parade of kowtowing, lickspittle, western leaders telling us how we need to make greater efforts to embrace islam. Then along come Denmark, a glimmer of hope in this growing darkness, and I have to watch the west fail to stand with one of its own in a time of need.

Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 8:58 AM
Mr. Rasmussen said he believed that Islam was compatible with democracy...
This commonly held belief in the West is soundly contradicted by the facts on the ground.

The topic of democracy is one that is particularly fraught with pitfalls when discussing it with Muslims. A Muslim can honestly say that they support democracy, provided the discussion is narrowed to encompass only the electoral process for choosing leaders or to matters that are not specifically addressed in the Islamic canon (Koran, hadiths and Sira). The standard Muslim retort to the charge that Islam is incompatible with democracy is that the tribal shura mechanism is “democratic”.

It is quite another matter however when the democratic process is used to legislate, as in the original Greek and Roman philosophy upon which modern democratic systems are modeled. Democratic legislation implicitly embodies the notion that sovereignty is vested in the people. It is the use of democracy to legislate that is anathema to Islam because sovereignty of the people is explicitly eschewed by the Islamic canon. The Islamic ideology immutably vests complete sovereignty in Allah (as expressed in the Quran, haditha and Sira) and no human institution can posses authority to create law. In this regard, the use of democracy to legislate is fundamentally incompatible with shari’a and constitutes blasphemy.

The most profound distinction between shari’a and Western law is that the canonical foundations of shari’a are immutable and the Western constitutions are entirely amendable. No one in the Muslim world has authority to abrogate a single word of the Islamic canon, whereas the power to amend the Western constitutions is fully vested in the sovereign people.

Having elections for leaders by using popular democratic voting systems does not make a democracy. Even a truly clean democratic election may do nothing more than install a fascist despot. Witness the recent electoral victory of the Hamas thugs and the Iranian tyrant Ahmadinejad. A democratic society is one in which sovereignty is vested in the people and in which self rule is operationalized through democratic public choice mechanisms in matters of legislation, not just choice of leadership.

Belief that the Islamic ideology is compatible with democracy or that Islam is a religion of peace does not make it so. Contemporary events and more than a thousand years of bloody history prove it.

Posted by: DrMack [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 11:04 AM

A brave figure in a sea of jellyfish.

I would guess his "Islam is compatable with democracy" line is meant as a "show me" challenge to the Muslim-first! infil-traitors in his country.

And, if they prove him wrong, he can then take action, having been stung by them and disappointed with them for not rising to the liberal gauntlet he threw down so quietly ...and wrapped in the usual p.c. sweetness and light lingo.

I, too, am a Dane!

And am disgusted with the American lickspittle Press.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 11:42 AM

Danes,
You guys are the best in the West. Better
than the rest

Still, you let too many mohammadans in!

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 11:52 AM

Denmark: leader in renewable wind energy, and now in standing up to the bullies of Islam. It is 1936, and Rasmussen is Churchill. It seems plenty of people are listening, though. I have said on this forum before that Europe was waking up. Now it is clear. The political leaders may prevaricate for a few more years, but the scales have fallen from the eyes of the people. Now the demographic issue has to be faced. It is severe, but there is yet hope for Europe.

Quijybo

Posted by: Quijybo [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:22 PM

Yes Europe is awakening. I believe the small countries of Europe will hopefully survive this onslaught. It is too early to tell and it will be a long hard fight. But the big 3 countries of the UK, France and Germany I fear it might be too late for them. Well Germany and the UK can turn this around too. But for France I fear it is too late for them, they will be Islamicized I fear.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:49 PM

Buried in the text of this article at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2028037,00.html was the announcement...

"Pakistani doctors announced that they would not use medicines made in countries where the cartoons had been printed."

GOOD! This is a Muslim boycott we can all support! And let all Western nations stop selling medicine to them and see if these backward idiots can produce their own medicines. If not, there will be less of these blind fanatics to wage Jihad.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:51 PM

Buried in the text of this article at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2028037,00.html was the announcement...

"Pakistani doctors announced that they would not use medicines made in countries where the cartoons had been printed."

GOOD! This is a Muslim boycott we can all support! And let all Western nations stop selling medicine to them and see if these backward idiots can produce their own medicines. If not, there will be less of these blind fanatics to wage Jihad.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:51 PM

Buried in the text of this article at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2028037,00.html was the announcement...

"Pakistani doctors announced that they would not use medicines made in countries where the cartoons had been printed."

GOOD! This is a Muslim boycott we can all support! And let all Western nations stop selling medicine to them and see if these backward idiots can produce their own medicines. If not, there will be less of these blind fanatics to wage Jihad.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:52 PM

Buried in the text of this article at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2028037,00.html was the announcement...

"Pakistani doctors announced that they would not use medicines made in countries where the cartoons had been printed."

GOOD! This is a Muslim boycott we can all support! And let all Western nations stop selling medicine to them and see if these backward idiots can produce their own medicines. If not, there will be less of these blind fanatics to wage Jihad.

Posted by: Provoslavni [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 1:52 PM

Dear muslims,

If you do not like my country, please leave.
If you do not like the way our women dress, please leave.
If you do not like our separation of politics and religion, please leave.
If you support violent responses to criticism of Islam, please leave.
If you support terrorism in any way, shape or form, please leave.
If you cannot accept satirical cartoons in our newspapers, please leave.
If you do not support democracy or the freedom of speech, please leave my country.

Please leave our countries and go live in your Islamic paradises. Why may I ask, are you here if its so bad for you and you feel discriminated?

Posted by: faqi [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 2:01 PM

It's encouraging to know that peopel around the world support us, like in the US:

http://www.worldfalls.com/

and in Holland:

http://www.petitiononline.com/danmark/

Thanks everybody!

Posted by: odin, king of gods [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 3:40 PM

faqi:

If you tell a Mohammedan to to piss off to where the Sharia reigns, he will tell you that "all the world belongs to Allah and all infidel countries will soon become Islamic..."

So unless we determine that the presence and infiltration of our countries by Mohammedans is undesirable and incompatible with what we believe in, Mohammedans will continue to subvert and destroy any host nation that they have been allowed to settle in.

Internment and deportations NOW!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 10, 2006 8:33 PM

sheik yer'mami-

You have to wait for the big Islamic attack on a Western metropolis before you advocate such radical surgery.

As Nietzsche's tightrope walker said:

"I have spoken to soon. My sound will not reach your ears yet."

(You have to remember, sound is supposed to travel slower than light.)

Not that they aren't planning the Big Event in a cave in Pakistan and in underground bunkers in Iran.

Painting the name "The 12th Imam" on the nosescone as we speak, most likely, and just waiting for the payload to arrive from Dr. A.Q. Khan's NukesRUs network.

Even though sending the infil-traitors back to rotate in Mecca would actually be more humane, considering what would happen to them after 2 or 300,000 people melt in NYC or LA or DC. (Or drop like flies from nerve gas or smallpox.)

But, as some of the Muslo-posters popping up lately would object:

"I dare you to find the word nuke in the Koran!"

Sad as it will be, we must wait for fate.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 11, 2006 1:38 AM

In 1961 +/- my wife and I visited Denmark and in Copenhagen saw the then-new movie Exodus. There was one scene - someone describing the King wearing a yellow star in solidarity with Danish Jews. And the next day, all the Danes came out wearing yellow stars. It was a moving experience watching it in that theater filled with Danes, many of whom were there and did that noble act under Nazi occupation, just 20 years before.

Rasmussen and the Danes - they have not changed! There will always be freedom in Europe as long as there are Danes!

Quijybo has it right - Rasmussen is from the same mold as Churchill. Danes, take inspiration from Churchill's War Speech, September 3, 1939 (google it). The Islamonuts are a different type of enemy, but one even more deadly to freedom and liberty.

Oh, and where does one get that bumper sticker?

Posted by: Jimmy Bones [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 11, 2006 3:12 AM

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