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Mr. Orwell, call your office: the subtitle of this Zenit story (thanks to Christopher Zentner) is "Defamation Seen as Inconsistent With Freedom of Expression." That is, if your expression is really free, you won't insult us.
BEIRUT, Lebanon, FEB. 15, 2006 (Zenit.org).- Fifty-seven Muslim governments are pressing to include a ban on the mocking of religions in a planned new U.N. human rights body, AsiaNews reported.The 57 governments previously had announced their intention to have the United Nations ban such mocking of religion, the news agency said.
According to the text of the Muslim countries' proposal, the new U.N. body should strive to "prevent instances of intolerance, discrimination, incitement of hatred and violence arising from any actions against religions, prophets and beliefs, which threaten the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms."
In a clear reference to the Mohammed cartoons controversy, the proposal states that "defamation of religions and prophets is inconsistent with the right to freedom of expression."
To achieve this goal, Egypt, for example, is trying to persuade the European Union to support the ban. After talks with EU foreign affairs chief Javier Solana in Cairo, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Aboul Gheit said the proposal on banning defamation of religions was discussed.
Al-Azhar Sheikh Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, Sunni Islam's highest religious authority, told Solana that the resolution should include sanctions.
Solana refused to say whether a resolution would be presented to the General Assembly. He did note, however, that a mechanism is under study that would reconcile the principles of a common declaration made by the European Union, the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference.
Posted by Robert at February 16, 2006 4:38 PM
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A few citations from the Quran and Hadith should serve as examples of this type of criminal speech.
Quijybo
Posted by: Quijybo
at February 16, 2006 5:12 PM
I can see it now. The EU foreign affairs chief, Mr. Solana on bended knee, in front of Sheik Tantawi, with a sword raised over Solana's head, as the EU stooge signs a declaration meant to "reconcile the common principles of the EU, the UN and the Organization of Islamic Conference." Following the signing, all European government offices and newspaper editors will be required to have Muslim minders, checking every word written, making sure that nothing enflames or offends the Islamic world. Burqas and beards will also be required.
Posted by: maryrose
at February 16, 2006 5:18 PM
There is a temptation to perceive all of that cartoon rage as simply another example of Islamist's uncontrollable irrationality. It is that, but it is more. The method to the madness is that these 57 Muslim nations are trying to influence the U.N. to introduce a de facto Islamic blasphemy law on the entire world. And what do they cite as evidence for the need for such a ban, to maintain public order? They cite the Muslim riots, of course. Riots which were planned in advance and brought to the attention of practically all media outlets of the world. There is plenty of evidence, as we've seen, to view this as a coordinated, planned, organized series of events. But we don't even need to assume that. All we need to know is that all of the Muslims involved--the rioters, the imams, the apologist spokesmen, the Muslim political leaders--are working toward the same goal: "Defend Islam" and defeat the infidels. Soft jihad, hard jihad, economic jihad, political jihad, propaganda jihad, blackmail jihad, etc.
Posted by: Archimedes
at February 16, 2006 5:37 PM
In the West we need a formal declaration that, inasmuch as Islam is a fascist political cult designed to conquer territory and subjugate nations, the western legal system does not recognize Islam as a religion. Furthermore, the caravan robber, mass murderer, and documented psychotic pedophile referred to as Mohammed is not recognized as a prophet or as any kind of religious authority whatsoever.
Thereby, any domestic or foreign law to the contrary is automatically null and void.
In the USA, a constitutional amendment to this effect would not be inappropriate. We are talking about defending nothing less than our entire civilization and everything that we hold dear.
at February 16, 2006 5:41 PM
I say let them impliment this law. Go ahead, do it! Let the world see how ridiculous this "religious hatred" law is. Not only will they be targetting cartoonists and journalists, they'll also be targetting academics, politicians, and ministers. If Jews and Christians make enough of a fuss they'll be able to hang the Muslim world with their own rope. Let the UN impose "sanctions" on the Arab press. Have a taste of your own medicine mullahs, doesn't taste so good, does it?
Posted by: igor
at February 16, 2006 5:42 PM
From the article: "He did note, however, that a mechanism is under study that would reconcile the principles of a common declaration made by the European Union, the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference."
Yes, that mechanism is called dhimmitude.
Posted by: Stendec
at February 16, 2006 5:56 PM
Islam is not a religion. It is a political idealogy masquarading as a religion. Perhaps we should ban them quotng their hate filled verses from the koran.
Posted by: Celsius
at February 16, 2006 5:57 PM
there would a whole lot of laid off cartoonist in arab countries.. they could not make fun of Jews and chistians... too bad for them!
Posted by: Lulu
at February 16, 2006 6:13 PM
Oh, we need a U.N. ban awright. But not the kind of which those who would manipulate gullible globo-socialists envision.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at February 16, 2006 6:19 PM
Every time a muslim would call mohammed the last or final prophet, every single mormon would be mocked. But mormons of the world, rejoice, before the all the LDS churches are burnt to the ground, the muslims must then take care of their own heretical sect first that also claims a later prophet.
Posted by: Lisa
at February 16, 2006 6:24 PM
The UN is trying to look good when they know their reputation is in shambles.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at February 16, 2006 6:29 PM
I will go along with this IF
1. ALL muslims agree that the Jews have a right to live in Israel.
2. All muslims agree that Killing infidels is Illigal
3.ALL Muslims agree to turn over ALL Muslims terrorists for prosecution and sentancing in the countries where the terrorist attacks occurred.,.
4. All muslim countries must agree to ALLOW ANY one in their countries to
Worship Their own god without fear of the
Islamo nazis police be-heading them
5. Allow NON muslims the SAME RIGHTS as MUSLIMS in all Muslims nations...
6. All Muslims nations must allow and agree to non muslim places of worship being taller than the next door mosque (and not being VBLOWN up)
By an Islamic suicide bomber (because it is)..
7. All muslim nations must pay to re-patriate the so called Palestinians back to either their true home lands (can be done with dna testing) which muslim nations must pay for...
or Muslim nations must give up 1% of their lands for the Palestinians use..
8. ALL MUSLIMS MUST AGREE not to do any of the following to non muslims, jews, christians
No
Killing
Be-heading
Raping
Blowing up
Siucide bombings
Torture
child molesting
Lying
Cheating
Stealing
Hating
Forced conversions
Cartoon drawings
Mocking
Hurting
Speaking agains
ANY and ALL NON muslim religions, people, races and even sexual orientation...
Then i might stop telling the TRUTH about the
VILE EVIL religon
that satan spawned from the Pitts of Hell
Called
ISLAM..
at February 16, 2006 6:29 PM
Oh i forgot...
No Nukes
No flying aircraft into buildings
No arson sprees ..
no ied building
no home made explosives.
no home made jihadist videos..
and NO muslims will be allowed on
WELFARE especially Islamic Clerics..
If any ofd these conditions are broken..
by any and ALL muslims or the deals off
and we again begin telling the TRUTH about
the religion of Pieces Islam
Started by Mohammed (Pork be on is ass)...
at February 16, 2006 6:32 PM
Muslim Hypocrisy is as limitless as matter.
Posted by: NicephorusPhocas
at February 16, 2006 6:37 PM
"prevent instances of intolerance, discrimination, incitement of hatred and violence arising from any actions against religions, prophets and beliefs, which threaten the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms."So they are proposing to ban the publication and distribution of the Koran, hadiths and Sira? OK, we'll go with that. Posted by: Hulegu Khan
at February 16, 2006 6:51 PM
If the readers of this post are interested in exploring the consequences of trying to ban speech, cartoons, or books that insult other religions or religious believers, they should read up on the Calcutta Quran Petition circa 1985. Although this legal petition was ultimately dismissed, it called for the confiscation of all copies of the Quran because they contained numerous verses that met the test of the Indian Penal Code involved.
The Quran remains the only Holy Book of a major religion that specifically names other religions in its condemnations and calls for violence. One example: Surahs 5:59-61 says most Jews are evil doers and Allah punished them by turning them into apes and swine.
at February 16, 2006 7:00 PM
let it happen then we can point out the irrelivence of the un so we can finally withdraw from this un-democratic terror supporting west hating institution.
Posted by: jimmytheclaw
at February 16, 2006 7:03 PM
Muslims are like liberals, there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.
Posted by: Dead Infidel Walking
at February 16, 2006 7:19 PM
The western civilized nations are far superior than the undeveloped sand tribes of the middle east and their childish religious fantasies.
It only took five years to put a stop to the military might of the Germans who are amoung the most intelligent and industrial people on earth.
It would have taken less had the French cowards played their part as well.
When the west is forced to awake from their slumber because of the islamic itch that is causing discomfort, it will scratch it's ass and go back to sleep.
at February 16, 2006 8:07 PM
How about if the U.S. just leaves the U.N.? The U.N. can pass rsolutions all day long that are binding only on the remaining members.
Posted by: 3812Michelle
at February 16, 2006 8:19 PM
Muslims are like liberals, there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.
Now wait just a danged minute. Marxists are only too happy to belly up to the bar to sign up for more taxes. In fact, in my town they display bumper stickers stating, "I'll pay higher taxes" which of course are needed so that our burgeoning Abysynnian population can sit around on their dead asses "praying" their murderous political ideology.
Of course, the Marxists are even happier happier to sign you up for more taxes, too.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at February 16, 2006 8:37 PM
Their "God" is so weak it needs the U.N. to defend it?
Pathetic.
Laughable.
Europe should graft the U.S. Bill of Rights to their homegrown all-too-wordy EU documents, quick, before they end up as the Collective Islamic Protectorates of Northern Arabia.
Get serious, you dozing Continentals, or Shariah Law will be infiltrating and destroying your cultural foundations and enlightened roofbeams like a spreading theocratic dryrot.
Voltaire or Mohammad.
Decide.
Or die.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at February 16, 2006 8:57 PM
Muslims have a problem, one that is brand-new to them. Infidels everywhere are under various kinds of assault by the forces of Islam. The instruments of Jihad to push forward Islam so because everywhere in the world "Islam is to dominate and is not to be dominated" include the traditional means, that of qital or combat (here expanded to include terrorism as well as conventional military action); the "wealth weapon" (economic boycotts, bribery of officials, dangling of contracts to Westerners who then become apologists for Islam and particular Muslim states or causes); "pen, speech" (propaganda, including Da'wa or the Call to Islam); and finally, the new weapon added in the thirty years, the demographic weapon the use of which has been made possible by an unheard-of development, thesettling deep within the Lands of the Infidels, that is behind what Muslims themselves regard as enemy lines, of millions of Muslims, who continue to overbreed, who live largely on the Infidel taxpayers, and who attempt everywhere to transform, in ways little and big, the societies of the countries in which they live, their laws, their customs, their manners, their attitudes, so as to conform to Msulim ideas, Muslim demands, Muslim attitudes.
At the same time, Muslims have to prevent Infidels from finding out what Islam is all about. So they have to prevent Infidels from studying the texts of Islam too closely -- the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Sira -- or from studying the history of Islamic conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims (dhimmis). To this end, they are intent on passing laws at the national and now the international level, that will inhibit, on pain of legal action, the open discussion of what Islam is all about. The introduction of the word "prophet" is clearly meant to protect Muhammad, so that it will be illegal for Infidels to discuss the mass decapitation of the Banu Qurayza, the attack on the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, the assassination of those who mocked, however mildly, Muhammad, including Asma bint Marwan and several others, and of course Muhammad's "marriage" to nine-year-old Aisha, such a source of embarrassment and lies by Muslims who do not know how to deal wtih it except to deny that Aisha was the age she was, or to switch the conversation quickly, to such matters as "putting it into historical context" -- which of course means nothing, becuase Muhammad is a model, uswa hasana, for all time. That is why the Ayatollah Khomeini, as virtually his first act, lowered the marriageable age of girls in the Islamic Republic of Iran to nine years. Aisha, or rather Muhammad with Aisha, was the model he was determined to follow.
If they are allowed to silence discussion, and criticism, of the contents of Islam, the belief-system of Islam, then the Infidels will be without the most important weaopn they possess --the weapon of informing themselves. And what's more, Muslims who might wish to somehow -- god knows how -- "reform" Islam -- would also not be able to openly discuss what they find so obviously in need of reform.
This must be opposed. It cannot be allowed to affect, or limit in the slightest, the open discussion of Islam, by everyone, and not merely by the cunning or naive apologists whom we see all about us.
Posted by: Hugh
at February 16, 2006 9:25 PM
The behemoth tower of Babel, AKA the UN, is putatively in the process of reforming its corrupt, foul institution, which should certainly include massive DOWNSIZING. But lo and behold, they are creating yet another bureaucracy for US taxpayers to fund. It will no doubt be staffed by a crew of fat communists and multiculti socialist democrats, with a few Islamists thrown in to supervise and partake of the ineptitude, hypocrisy, graft, corruption and bribery that permeate the body and soul of the abominable UN.
Let's see how long it takes the bungling, self-important, pompous bureaucrats at the EU and UN to pass a blasphemy resolution. Important issues, like Iran's nukes, are delayed for years as they dither and procrastinate. But this fatuity will be accomplished in record time. There is nothing these self-righteous charlatans love any more than a big, fat, juicy human rights dissimulation, preferably with all crooked fingers pointing at the Great Satan. Why do we tolerate these assholes?
at February 16, 2006 9:59 PM
Muhammad was a false prophet. Muhammad lead a life of evil. Muslims want to ban me from saying these two sentences because it defames their prophet. No I can see them getting such bullshit to stick in nations that are Muslim nations. But the breathtaking arrogance of these Muhammadans to try and make this law in advanced Western nations where Muslims are not more than 5% of the population! From France's days of arson and Denmark's cartoons we now know how bad Muslims behave when they are 5% (France) 1% (Denmark). This can only get worse when the Muslims numbers are greater. I know I'm starting the obvious
7th century illiterate barbarians trying to lay down the law for 21st century educated peoples
Posted by: dennisw
at February 16, 2006 10:05 PM
These are the same countries that watched as Saddam butchered Iraqies. Shows how much these countries care for human life.
Posted by: Alert
at February 16, 2006 10:24 PM
At the same time, Muslims have to prevent Infidels from finding out what Islam is all about.
The opinion programmers will see to that not insignificant task. If they can sell Liberalism, well, then they can sure as hell sell the idea that Islam is a religion and that Moderate Moslem Man actually exists and all that tiresome bullcrap.
Like a suppurating sore, when the pain is sharpest and the puss greenest, Joe Sixpack instinctively senses, probably by smell, what a Moslem actually is. But when the puss dries up and the throbbing subsides, well, we're back to our TVs receiving the fantastic visions of Condi Rice and her fellow academics --- delusional frauds all.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at February 16, 2006 11:44 PM
The UN is trying to look good when they know their reputation is in shambles.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at February 16, 2006 06:29 PM
Despite the disgusting state of corruption, graft, and dishonesty that typifies the United Nations and its vile bureaucrats, the diabolical UN agenda proceeds unabated with the blessings and cooperation of Western governments.
The UN agenda is behind schedule, but the devious bureaucrats are still frantically working behind the scenes, in cooperation with the CFR and other NGO's, to implement the NWO. The sovereignty of the United States is still intact, barely, and that must be remedied posthaste. But never fear, Bush and the intellectual elites at the CFR and State Department are working out the final knots that will undo what's left of it.
The UN will never be reformed or downsized. It will continue to grow like a malignant tumor, swallowing billion of dollars for upkeep, and taking billions of our money to redistribute to the "poor", and to further enrich the powerful within the UN.
The only salvation of the US is its Security Council veto and many AMERICAN politicians, pundits, think-tank gurus,and academics are stridently calling for an end to the veto. Once we lose the veto, we are literally at the mercy of the rest of the world, all of which hates us. Bye bye America, it was nice while it lasted, but those who are determined to destroy America will not be deterred short of another revolution.
I wonder what future generations will think when they study history and learn that the most powerful, prosperous nation on earth was deliberately destroyed by its own elites, sacrificed to the totalitarian tyranny of global socialist multiculturalism, yet another form of imposed utopianism. Such a waste, and all for the realization of an impossible dream---world peace. Of course, I'll never believe that peace is the goal, although that's what the UN was created for. The goal is to suck the life out of the US through open borders and unlimited, unchecked immigration, and to reduce it to a third-world hellhole after its wealth is redistributed and its people are taxed into poverty. And how will we address our future leader, the Secretary General of the UN, King Kofi, or King Successor to Kofi?
Posted by: Susanp
at February 17, 2006 1:03 AM
"According to the text of the Muslim countries' proposal, the new U.N. body should strive to 'prevent instances of intolerance, discrimination, incitement of hatred and violence arising from any actions against religions, prophets and beliefs, which threaten the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.'"
Hulegu:
Presumably this will only be enforceable against non-Muslim countries; Muslim countries will be excluded by dint of their divine right to render the rest of us dhimmis.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at February 17, 2006 9:09 AM
As happened in the UK, the first step the cult takes when trying to bring in these self-serving laws is to get an exemption for their Holy Terrorist Manual.
Posted by: mistyhymen
at February 17, 2006 11:24 AM
While I agree that strong actions must be taken to stop the violence and bloodshed in Moslem countries over the printing of 12 cartoons in Denmark last September, I think the OIC may be on the wrong path when it tries to legislate respect for prophets.
In the only version of the UN Resolution on Combatting Defamation of Religions I could find on the internet, the text talks about protecting all religions, but only Islam is called out specifically. Given that Islam is a minority religion in the European Union, I doubt that there will be enough votes in the European Parliament to pass a law which mentions only Islam by name.
The second problem has to do with a law which should prohibit defamation of all prophets and faiths. The problem isn't so much about Prophets as it is about False Prophets. The prophet of one religion may be a false prophet of another religion, so who gets to decide?
Depending on which sect of Islam one blongs to, there are a number of false prophets. Is the ayatollah of Iran seen as a prophet to Sunni Muslims? Is Prophet Elija Mohammed (aka Elija Pool) of the Nation of Islam a prophet? Is Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association a prophet? And the list goes on.
Christianity also warns about false prophets. Must Christians show respect for false prophets? Who decides which prophets are true and which are false?
You can't sanctify all prophets unless there is common agreement on which prophets are true and which are false.
Posted by: Chris
at February 18, 2006 12:43 PM
And here we see the creeping cancer of the European and third world love affairs with the transnational organs such as the UN, The "World Court", and the growing tentacles of NGOs, "international" laws, and supranational jurisdictions.
There is a sickening nexus between Europe's drive to make national borders and national soveriegnty obsolete, and the lust of the various third world and Muslim nations to exert disproportionate influence over the Western World, and America in particular. Their various concoctions exemplified by organs such as the EU, the World Court, the UN, and the myriad of transnational NGOs and restrictive laws is like a spreading and malignant tumor. It is a cancer which threatens US sovereignty, and US power, and therefore threatens world peace.
Sadly, this notion fills the black hearts of our poisonous "allies" in Europe with glee. They imagine the world would be far better off than it is today if only Europeans held the strings of power, despite all the evidence that they don't know what they're doing, and would screw the whole world up like never before....
This notion also fills the black hearts of the world's corrupt and malignant Muslims with glee. They imagine the world would be far better off than it is today if only Islam held the strings of power, despite all the evidence that they don't know what they're doing, and would make the world into a sewer, as Islam has done everywhere it holds sway....
The fantasy the Europeans embrace has them sitting on various "high commissions" and "high courts" wagging those notorious European fingers at the US, lecturing us, and convicting us of crimes against Transnationalist post modernist creep....
The fantasy the Muslims embrace has them sitting on various Sharia high "commissions", and Sharia high "courts" wagging those notorious Muslim fingers at us, bitterly lecturing us, and convicting us of crimes against Islamist 7th Century creep....
interject invective here -- including references to orifices and hydrolic forces... That's what the Europeans can do with their crackpot concoctions. That's what the Muslims can do with their crackpot "religion".
Allow me to be the first to break this law, even before it's crafted.
Islam is a sewer religion practiced by gutter people. Islam, along with it's vile book, the Koran, belongs in the garbage dump, along with all the other useless rotting carrion and detritus... Islam is similar to toxic waste and pollution. Islam is similar to a deadly virus. Islam is like a malignant cancer. Islam is tantamount to decay, backwardness, slovenliness, hatred, and bitterness.
at February 18, 2006 1:43 PM
Fifty-seven Muslim governments are pressing to include a ban on the mocking of religions in a planned new U.N. human rights body, AsiaNews reported. ............
Wow, with all the hatred and violence that Muslim clerics teach on other religions and they have the cheek to come up with a ban on mocking religions, does this mean they can mock and we can't????
at February 19, 2006 8:00 AM


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