This is a non-story, typical of the way muslims act.

In the early 90's the muslims were forcing out Christians out of Kosovo by violent means. When the
Serbs reacted, our glorious cigar inserting president, decided to bomb the Serbs. Now Kosovo is an Al Quadi stronghold in Europe.
It is my opinion that the Saudi's put pressure on the West, by using oil as blackmail. We should invade Saudi Arabia's oil field and keep it, kick out all the non compliance muslims. After all the Saudi's are financing the war on terror using the oil money they receive. This would cut off the funding of the terrorist.

Posted by: FIVEOFNINE at March 6, 2006 8:19 AM

This is a phrase more comonly heard in a ME barbershop, but it'll apply to this guy soon enough:

"KHUF-fif el-A-fa wil ga-WA-nib bass, min-FAHD-luk."

(Don't cut any off the top, please!)

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 6, 2006 9:11 AM

The sooner we allow more drilling on our shores, artic areas, nuclear energy, solar energy,,and if the US is allowed to do the same the faster will be rid of the Saudis and their ilk. then the Chinese can get in bed with them, or deeper in bed with them. l heard they are having some trouble with muslims in their western lands of China.. see how they deal with it!

Posted by: Lulu at March 6, 2006 9:13 AM

The Master of the Caravan

But you are nothing but a lot of Jews.

The Principal Jews

Sir, even dogs have daylight, and we pay.

James Elroy Flecker's poem. Here we are - found it online:

The Golden Journey to Samarkand

Hurts to be seen like that, doesn't it? All right for Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, you name it .... but not for Muslims. Oh, no.

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 6, 2006 9:19 AM

Are you sure that's not a typo and it should have been "Shit"?

Posted by: perpster at March 6, 2006 9:45 AM

FIVEOFNINE wrote:

"This is a non-story, typical of the way muslims act."

It's a crucial story, and it should be required reading for each of the president's closest advisors.

Eventually, they need to realize that this is typical of the way that many Muslims act, and that the problem with Islam is Islam.

Posted by: PRCS at March 6, 2006 10:55 AM

I'm not some Jew to be treated this way by Arabs.....

You don't know Shi'ite from shinola, do ya boy!

Sunni from Shinola (Excerpt)

Sunni from Shinola
By Christopher Hitchens
Slate | October 18, 2005

Ever wonder how to piss off an Iraqi? It's relatively simple. Just ask one, no sooner than you have been introduced: "So you're an Iraqi? How absolutely fascinating. Do tell: Are you a Kurd or a Sunni or a Shiite?" This will work every time, just as it's always so polite and so useful to ask a brown-skinned American if he or she is Chicano or, you know … Latina.

If you fall into conversation with an Iraqi, you will soon enough find out what you want to know. Kurds are not shy about mentioning their nationhood, and followers of the Shiite confession are not inclined to make a secret of the fact. So don't force the question. But you will have to know a lot of Iraqis before you meet one who cannot introduce you, usually with pride, to his or her Sunni cousin, or Kurdish auntie, or Shiite brother-in-law, as the case may be. And as for ethnicity and religion beyond our customary categories, you had better be prepared to meet Turkish and Assyrian Iraqis, as well as to bear in mind that in 1947 there were more Jews in Baghdad than in Jerusalem (many of the former of whom had been there longer), that many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis are Christian from more than one denomination—Islamic fanatics murdered the head of their Anglican congregation just the other day—and that the spiritual leader of the Shiites, Grand Ayatollah Sistani, is an ethnic Persian.........   SNIP

 

 

Posted by: dennisw at March 6, 2006 11:06 AM

Regarding the topic brought up by a few previous posters on our reliance on imported oil and our creating new forms of energy, it’s beginning to look like everybody’s crawling out of the woodwork with new and differing types of fuel …everything from lithium ion battery powered cars, bio diesel, cars running on excess grease leftover from McDonalds to gasoline being extracted from cow manure. The biggest problem I see with our getting away from foreign oil (or even our own drilling off-shore and our reliance on oil in general) is finding one source, narrowing down the choices, and getting everybody onboard and implementing one type of fuel, rather than the many, many choices we could go with. Standardization is going to be the biggest hurdle to overcome.

This time, unlike the other times in history, whatever we come up with, develop, and market, we should keep whatever we create to ourselves and away from foreign entities hell-bent on our destruction. Whenever we create something for good uses, it’s eventually gotten into the hands of people who want to kill us and used against us. Screw them. Let them have their precious oil …and drown in it.

Here are just a few examples of what’s out there:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.03/play.html?pg=5

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060303/bs_afp/usautogmtoyota_060303000158

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/17/eveningnews/main1329941.shtml

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at March 6, 2006 11:36 AM

Also, I personally feel our own government is as two-faced as the Islamists trying to kill us –they tell us we need to wean ourselves off of foreign oil, yet there’s little being done to do so, even given the technological advancements having been made and the potential possibilities to do so. Do you think that good ol’ GB wants to take money out of his own pocket or his dad’s, who both stink of oil profits? Not likely! Instead, he continues reaching into ours to fund an ideologically incorrect and misnamed 'war on terror'.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at March 6, 2006 11:44 AM

The Sunni Muslims consider Shiya Muslims as khafirs(infidels)
The Shiya Muslims calls Sunnies Infidels.
Both the above Muslims call Ahmadyia Muslims,Naion of Islam Muslims,Ismailia Muslims,Bhora Muslims,Suffi Muslims NOT MUSLIMS AT ALL.
These Muslims will kill one another to prove who is the REAL Muslims.The days are verny near. It is at its peak in Iraq,and already penitrated into the West IN New York.
Victory of Truth over Evil...on the slow march.

Posted by: rafia at March 6, 2006 11:47 AM

Kinda reminds me of "Highlander"

"There can be only one"

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 6, 2006 2:49 PM

Rafia, what do you mean about this happening "IN New York"? Do you have any news stories to link to?

Just curious, as I haven't heard anything here about that.

Posted by: Vee at March 6, 2006 2:57 PM

"I'm not some Jew to be treated this way by Arabs. I'm just a Shiite," Radhi said.

Tanslation: I'm not a dog. I'm a Rafadite dog.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2006 3:13 PM

Radhi went on to say, from the article, "It looks to me like sectarian treachery among Shiites and Sunnis has won. All I am is an Iraqi person kicked out of Tarmiya, where I had to leave behind all my chickens to be eaten by the dogs. Sectarian treachery has won."

Now what does he mean by dogs, in the context of his chickens? Jews, or Sunnis? Or are they the canine variety?

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 6, 2006 3:18 PM

... what do you mean about this happening "IN New York"? Do you have any news stories to link to?

This story refers to Baghdad, but there is a story of Shi'ites encountering hostility from Sunnis in New York:

Link

Robert already posted it on the main Jihad Watch page under the title: 'We never thought it could happen in NY'

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 6, 2006 3:41 PM

"I'm just a Shiite."

I dind't know you spelled that word with two is and an e at the end...

Posted by: jsla at March 6, 2006 4:33 PM

Shia. Shinola. Shi'ite... Hmm... :)

I wonder if Rahdi realized what he had said once it flew out of his mouth, or if he just had no clue at all.

Posted by: Shinoliite at March 6, 2006 5:26 PM

"I'm not some Jew to be treated this way by Arabs. I'm just a Shiite," Radhi said.

Every time I read this sort of statement from Muslims (and I was especially struck by this sort of indignation on display after the Jordan wedding bombing) I am struck by the apparently complete absence of any awareness of Kant's categorical imperative in the Muslim mind.

"Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that is should become a universal law."

Now I'm no philosopher (nor historian) and my eyes start to glaze over a bit when I start reading about "deontological" this or that, but if I recall, Kant was one of the most influential enlightenment philosophers. And everyone seems to be in agreement that Islam is in need of an "enlightenment" (as opposed to a reformation - as we certainly don't need MORE returning to the original source documents of Islam) - but I WOULD encourage Muslims to contemplate Kant's categorical imperative as a possible starting point for enlightenment style thinking. But then I suppose if they took it to heart, there wouldn't be any Islam any more. Because Islam is ethically grounded in the very opposite. There is no capacity to act morally from universally applied ethical principles. There is only: The GOOD is what is good for us Muslims and the BAD is what is bad for us Muslims. Therefore, it is perfectly good for us to kill, steal, rape, cheat and lie towards non-Muslims but it very very bad for any non-Muslims to do the same thing to us. It is the most egocentric and immoral ethical system imaginable. Which is what makes it so obviously false and a fraud and a lie. But it was founded by a narcissist and power-drunk egotist - so that's what you get. Still, it's fascinating to see these anecdotes of utter and complete moral incomprehension on the part of Muslims themselves when they become the victims of their own primitive moral precepts. But Hey! I'm a Muslim! I'm no Jew! I'm not a Christian! Why are you doing this to me?! (scratches head, then stumbles off to the mosque for more of the same confusion).

Posted by: Caroline at March 6, 2006 7:31 PM

Thanks for the link, Yojimbo. I don't get over to JW much; I'm already popping onto this one as much as possible throughout my work day.

I hadn't seen anything about this in the local press, though I'm sure the NYTimes would have had something. What that would have been would be interesting; I'll try to find it on their site.

Posted by: Vee at March 6, 2006 8:04 PM

In the immediate days (and by that I mean within a week) of 9/11 -- the first big red flag that went up for me was hearing Muslims denying the role of Islam in the slaugher ... They'd say things like "It isn't about Islam -- it COULDN'T BE -- after all there were Muslims killed in the Twin Towers!" I wasn't sure, but I kept getting the clear message that this for them is what made it really bad, and what somehow, magically made it impossible for Islam to be implicated. Switch the stress a little, and pretend for a moment that Muslims weren't killed on 9/11... Their protestations instantly lost all internal logic and structure -- I couldn't help but wonder, before I know about Islam, -- well -- had there been no Muslims, would that have been OK with you? Or, without the deaths of Muslims, it seems like this wouldn't have seemed so bad...

Very confusing -- until I learned more... And it was this, in conjunction with the peculiar "but" clause I kept hearing in those first days and weeks, the endlessly added on Muslim clause which always came after "Of course I condemn this atrocity but..." followed by the myriad reasons why our policies and beliefs were somehow not related to 9/11, yet somehow pertinent enough to mention, and important to change in order to somehow please the Muslim world, make them hate us less, or some such thing. Virtually every condemnation from Muslim mouths included this dependent clause "but...":

"I don't agree with their actions but I understand their anger..."

or

"I categorically condemn this act of violence, but the actions of the US in the Middle East have caused so much anger in the Muslim world..."

Posted by: jsla at March 6, 2006 8:06 PM

Gee, isn't that just heart-wrenching? Sob!

Posted by: pythagoras at March 6, 2006 8:37 PM

But according to Mohammad, Islam is based on a "purified" Judaism.

(It doesn't come out of Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Confucianism, Jainism, or Mithraism.)

So these guys are all nothing but Reformed Jews.

I hope that makes his day.

Posted by: profitsbeard at March 6, 2006 9:00 PM

Caroline, you are right about the ethical system in islam. What is good and right is what advances allah's cause (domination over the kafirs) and what is bad and wrong is what hinders it. This is all stated in the koran in some of the most hateful words known to humanity.

The only morality in islam is based on the idea of separating the world into believers and non-believers. For instance, muslims are admonished not to lie, steal or cheat another muslim but this ethical system doesn't extend to non-believers.

islam is a primitive attempt to excell over the one-god religions of Judaism and Christianity and if it weren't for its politics of tribal totalitarian terror and murder, it wouldn't be the force it is today.

Posted by: the poetess at March 6, 2006 9:06 PM

"Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."
-- quoting Kant's categorical imperative.

Kant, or John Rawls, moral philosophers make an Eternal Return to some variant of the Golden Rule.

Now if to that Golden Rule we were to add the Golden Mean, or moderation in all things, moderation itself taken in measure, with that measure being derived from the motto inscribed on the recto of the coin of this particular realm, reading "Man Is the Measure of All Things." And if you turn the coin over, it offers verso (but not pollice verso), an equally apposite but opposite motto, "What Is Man That Thou Art Mindful of Him," and life becomes, at least in part, a wonderful but not chancy coin-toss, one upon which Pascalian wagers may, or may not, be placed.

And then we'd all be cooking with gas.

Posted by: Hugh at March 6, 2006 10:50 PM

I am struck by the apparently complete absence of any awareness of Kant's categorical imperative in the Muslim mind.

One of the other formulations of the categorical imperative (there are three) states: "Treat people as if they were ends in themselves and not means to your end".

No system of belief that is so thoroughly orientated towards success as Islam is could do any other than violate that imperative constantly and profoundly.

The communists had a great sense of their own righteousness, of course, but a goal-driven politics, such as Marxism-Leninism, similarly needs must violate the requirement to treat people as ends in themselves. People can talk till the cows come home about how communism is morality incarnate and only "actually existing communism" has betrayed it, but talk is cheap, and such people have failed to reflect sufficiently on this moral requirement.

When did you last here of someone's driving an SUV into a crowd because he'd been influenced by Kant?

Posted by: Yojimbo at March 7, 2006 4:34 AM