Robert

Could you ask Truth4u to stop spamming this site. Where as he makes an interesting point, he has continued to post this same message under every topic no matter what the subject.

This has been going on for at least two days.

And Truth4u...

If you are going to spamm, at least have your facts straight... The Gideons place bibles in hotels and other public places.

Walter in Golden

Posted by: Walter in Denvar at March 28, 2006 10:56 AM

I find it sad and ironic, as I read my morning paper, that the people of Boulder, CO are being chastised for not ponying-up the money to send over a cybercafe to it's sister-city, Dushanbe, to reciprocate the incredibly beautiful teahouse Dushanbe sent to Boulder 20 years ago (finally erecting it 10 years ago after lots of infighting)that THAT is story vs. the fact that our sister-city has torn down it's only Jewish temple and becoming more of the intolerant muslim hole that only islam can create so well.

Maybe we can say no cybercafe until a temple is rebuilt for your Jewish citizens. Most Boulderites think of themseles as very wordly, so surely they must know. But with the likes of Ward Churchill still employed at CU and most Boulderites buying into the "occupied territories" lie, maybe they just don't care. It's not the cause du jour.

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at March 28, 2006 12:24 PM

Central Asian Jews fascinate me. Their garb is similar to the local Muslims. Some even wore turbans. Living in a desert and building great cities is an accomplishment by the Muslims.

MUST SEE NY TIMES article about Jewish Bukharian restaurants in NYC
http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/01/18/dining/18rego.html

Posted by: dennisw at March 28, 2006 12:32 PM

I met a man from Tajikistan (sounds like the start of a dirty limrick) years ago. He had lived under Soviet rule for most of his life and told me that his country was muslim, but since they had been so isolated from the rest of the muslim world his people had "forgotten" what it meant to muslim and that they were "learning how to be muslims again".

I thought at the time "uh-oh".
Kinda wish wasn't right all the time.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 28, 2006 1:00 PM

I once met a man from Tajikistan
He said Ol' Mo had a plan
"A god I'll invent
While virgins wait in my tent"
Dreamed Ol' Mo while sitting on the can!

Mr. Ape Pig,
I couldn't resist.....

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at March 28, 2006 1:13 PM

LOL
I wish I would have (could have) thought of that

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 28, 2006 1:25 PM

A poet from Tajikistan
Wrote ditties that just wouldn't scan
When asked why that was
He replied: It's because
I try to get as many words into the last line as I possibly can

Posted by: Interested at March 28, 2006 1:28 PM

Mr. Ape Pig, or can I affectionately call you Apey?
Go raibh maith agat...Thank you in Irish. What can I say? My dad is part Leprechaun!!

I dashed that one off before getting my kiddos ready for school.
How 'bout another version?

I once met a man from Tajikistan
He said Ol' Mo had a plan,
"A god I'll invent
While virgins wait in my tent
As I rape, kill and pillage from my caravan!"

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at March 28, 2006 1:39 PM

You are welcome.
That's "You are welcome" in *cough* English.
(Sadly, Mr. Ape Pig is poorly educated).

I am ALL American, we take great pride in being only semi-proficient in our own language (That’s a joke please don't flame me!)

As long as it’s affectionately you may call me what ever you like. Come to think of it, so-called "friends" call me much (much) worse.
(Mr. Ape Pig needs better friends, apparently)

(Mr. Ape Pig should also stop referring to himself in the 3rd person and lay off the parenthesis)

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 28, 2006 1:59 PM

Hey Apey,
I'm All-American, too. ;) 4th generation Coloradoan. I just like to get in touch with my inner-leprechaun now and then, especially coming off the all-things-green holiday! (BIG one in my family)Your comment about sounding like a dirty limerick unleashed the beast!!!!

BTW your "name" is priceless! I remember loving it when I first read it. Didn't you have a witty reparte with a troll a while back?

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at March 28, 2006 2:15 PM

I got the name from a "love letter" the site got.
Like the "threat letter" posted on JW this morning.

The letter was addressed to Mr Ape Pig. I just thought it was a shame that there was no actual Mr Ape Pig.

"Didn't you have a witty reparte with a troll a while back?" I love troll-hunting and will usually make some smart-alec reply to their posts, but I can't remember if I have ever been in a back-and-forth post war with one.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at March 28, 2006 2:33 PM

Apey,
I TOTALLY remember that!!!!

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs at March 28, 2006 6:21 PM

I met a man from Tajikistan (sounds like the start of a dirty limrick) years ago. He had lived under Soviet rule for most of his life and told me that his country was muslim, but since they had been so isolated from the rest of the muslim world his people had "forgotten" what it meant to muslim and that they were "learning how to be muslims again".

I thought at the time "uh-oh".
Kinda wish wasn't right all the time.
Posted by: Mr Ape Pig

I'm not surprised at that. Note that of the 6 former Soviet republics that are Muslim majority (plurality in case of Kazakhstan), they can be classified as follows (hope this comes out right, since Typekey's html does so wonderfully with tables)

Sect Farsi Turkic
Sunni Tajikistan Turkmen, Kazakh, Kyrghiz, Uzbeg
Shia None Azerbaijan

Of the above, note that Azerbaijan, despite being Shia, is a close ally of Turkey (and tends to be pro-Western as a result; part of this is also due to their differences with Moscow, which supports Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh). To a lesser extent, the other Turan countries - Turkmen, Uzbeg, Kyrghiz and Kazakh are also friendly to Turkey.

Tajikistan, otoh, is a country that has been drifting towards Iran due to its Farsi underpinings, despite being Sunni. Radio Teheran broadcasts are common in that country. Given that Radio Teheran is controlled by the Ayatollahs, don't be surprised at Tajikistan going Islamic first, despite its Sunni differences with Iran.

This is, however, contrary to conventional wisdom. Of the 5 former Soviet republics east of the Caspian, it had been said in the past that the country most vulnerable to an Islamic takeover is Uzbegistan, which contains the Timuride cities of Samarqhand and Buqhara, and which also has the restive Ferghana valley (from where the Moghul emperor Babur originated). However, President Islam Karimov (interesting name, given what follows) has made it a point to suppress Islam brutally, Ataturk style, so there is hope for that country. If only he makes it a point to eradicate Islam from his country, it could have a shot. Only problem - Uzbegs regard Tamerlane as their national hero (even though he wasn't Uzbeg), and so as long as that's the case, that country isn't safe from an Islamic takeover. Should that happen, it would be a major victory for the Jihadists, since this country borders all 4 of the other Soviet Islamic republics (Azerbaijan not included), and Afghanistan as well.

This should be taken into consideration, and Tajikistan should be written off as a potential ally, if it was ever on any shortlist.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 29, 2006 1:58 AM

Okay, since the table didn't work, here it is differently

Sunni, Turkic: Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrghizstan , Uzbegistan and Turkey
Sunni, Farsi: Tajikistan
Shia, Turkic: Azerbaijan
Shia, Farsi: Iran

I've included Turkey and Iran in the mix this time.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 29, 2006 2:01 AM

Kazakhstan is a possible exception. Even though it is 65% Kazakh and many of those are nominally mulsim, the northern third of Kazakhstan (the steppes) has a Russian Slavic majority. This is also where Tyuritan and the Baikanour Cosmodrome (Russian Space Centers) are located.

Since these steppes were traditionally part of Russia but "given" to the Kazakhs by Stalin, a move of Kazakstan towards Islam could result in the secession of the steppe region and its reunification with Russia.

Posted by: Provoslavni at March 29, 2006 10:11 AM

Typo: Tyuratam

Posted by: Provoslavni at March 29, 2006 10:13 AM

Provoslavni

Kazakhstan is a big exception - it's only 47% Kazakh, not 65%, and I'm not sure what % is Muslim. But I'll correct something I said above - it's only an Islamic plurality if Eastern Orthodox and Protestant are separated, and not combined under the umbrella of Christianity. Okay, I'm a non-Christian, but is it too much to add such numbers together to come to the conclusion that Christianity is a marginal majority in Kazakhstan?

Nazarbayev has, since 1991, been good for the country. The fact that 50% of the population is Russian has kept this country relatively prosperous, and its oil isn't Islamic oil the way one can say about KSA. This is one country that has by & large been on the right track, and independence from Moscow hasn't resulted in an Islamization of the country the way it has in Tajikistan, or more worryingly, in Ferghana valley. And all this Russian presense has probably kept the country from Islamizing a la Tajikistan.

Also, they did a major project in moving the capital from Almaty on the Kyrghiz border to a more centrally located (and I believe more Russian) Astana, which I think follows a trend of Kazakhstan following more in the steps of a Belarus, rather than an Uzbegistan.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at March 30, 2006 1:54 AM