Usman Badar needs to be sent packing. Immediately!

Posted by: William The Crusader at April 14, 2006 8:16 AM

This just confirms that the west and the Muslims just cannot get along.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at April 14, 2006 8:21 AM

Truly it is really blasphemous to the real God to reject His blessed gift of being able to live free.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at April 14, 2006 8:25 AM

Well if they don't like Western values, they can crawl back to the rat holes they came out off. Please leave oh dear Muhammadens! Your values offend me, dhimmitude,honor killings, Jew bashing,gang rape,welfare fraud,clitorectomies, terrorism,ignorance,paranoia,etc.Your relgion is an offense to human decency.

Posted by: abdulalshirk at April 14, 2006 8:32 AM

here is a post on this same meeting at Bankstown hall.

http://democracyfrontline.org/news/?p=387

It includes an recording of the meeting, there is the hometaped recording and a link to the official recording ( http://www.risala.org/ )

http://democracyfrontline.org/news/?p=387

Posted by: meredith at April 14, 2006 8:38 AM

sorry posted the link it 2 times (they are both to the same item.

Posted by: meredith at April 14, 2006 8:39 AM

The free people of the world, believers in consensual government (CGiB), and the advance of science (PBUS), demand the return of all our holy technology. It is very humilating to see Mohammadens running around with our holy camera phones, driving our holy internally-combusted chariots, but worst of all flying the holy airplane.

Riot at noon good for everyone? Local mosque, bring torches.

Posted by: Beagle at April 14, 2006 8:40 AM

Riot at noon good for everyone? Local mosque, bring torches.
Posted by: Beagle

Not noon, I have this "thing" I have to do; in fact I am pretty much "booked" for the entire month. Come to think of it, next month is even worse.

Lets pencil in August, I maybe able to make it then.

Just kidding, I'll pack sandwiches, see ya at noon.

Posted by: Mr Ape Pig at April 14, 2006 8:55 AM

For this he was called a Muslim-basher by most of our leading Muslim groups...

... but cheered, congratulated and hoorah'ed by the vast majority of Australians. Even a couple of my leftie friends, who are die-hard Labor-voters no matter what, had no problem with what Costello said.

Usman Badar, president of the University of NSW Muslim Students Association

Yet another of the many and numerous Muslim/Islamic associations, councils, federations, societies, groups, federation of councils, supreme councils of federations, and on and on and on. Don't these people have anything more productive to occupy their time with? Obviously that taqiyya stuff is a full-time job. Wouldn't surprise me if this Usman traitor was born here too. Not only do they tell us they hate us and don't want to fit in, but even the 2nd generation shows no signs of fitting in, or wanting to fit in, like other immigrant groups.

And yet another Muslim who tells it like it is, to our faces, plain as the nose on our face, nothing out of context or mistranslated or misintrepreted. But we'll have to suffer listening to yet more of that "tiny minority hijacking a great religion" BS anyway. (sigh!)

Posted by: feralee at April 14, 2006 9:31 AM

The government of Australia should take heed, and go to each and every muslim hideout(home)and humanely escort each and every muslim to the nearest airport and set them on a plane to the nearest muslim only country.

It's apparently they are not happy where they are. We don't want the muslims to be UNhappy. aaahh....frankly, we don't want the muslims.

Posted by: freewoman at April 14, 2006 9:44 AM

"Last Saturday a small Muslim group, Hizb ut-Tahrir, held a public meeting at the Bankstown Town Hall to discuss whether Australia's Muslims really should subscribe to those values Costello mentioned."

I thought Hizb ut-Tahrir was classified as a terrorist organization by most countries except England. They want to establish a new caliphate in the world. Why is Australia allowing them to operate?

Posted by: Caratacus at April 14, 2006 10:02 AM

Can a Muslim now in law school, apparently intending to take the bar and thus indicate or swear allegiance to the American Constitution, possibly do so and meant it? Or will such an oath necessarily be perjured?

Here's an example. Google the name "Lawrence Reza Ershaghi." Get a sense of his views. He is currently a law student. See where he stands on the American government and on the Shari'a. Ask yourself if, when he graduates from Chicago-Kent Law School, he will, if asked to take an oath of allegiance to the Constitution, be telling the truth, or not? And if not, should he be admitted to the bar? It is impossible to square belief in Islam with loyalty to the American Constitution. Islam flatly contradicts the very idea of the Infidel nation-state, and certainly contradicts the individual rights guaranteed in the First Amendment.

Should this matter? Should this be cause for alarm and suspicion, and even disqualification from the practice (or teaching) of American law?

Yes.

Posted by: Hugh at April 14, 2006 10:46 AM

Good point Hugh. Pre-bar screening descriptions (found online) are ambiguous - at best.

Most states require applicants to have graduated from an ABA-accredited law school, to take and pass one or more written bar examinations, and to demonstrate they possess the requisite "moral character and fitness" to practice law.

The public is adequately protected only by a system that evaluates the character and fitness as those elements relate to the practice of law.

The public interest requires that the public be secure in its expectation that those who are admitted to the bar are worthy of the trust and confidence clients may reasonably place in their attorney.

"Fitness" as used in these rules is the assessment of mental and emotional health and condition as it affects the competence of a prospective attorney. The purpose of requiring an applicant to possess this fitness is to exclude from the practice of law any person having a mental or emotional illness or condition which would be likely to prevent the person from carrying out duties to clients, courts or the profession. An applicant may be of good moral character, but may be incapacitated from proper discharge of his or her duties as an attorney by such illness or condition. The fitness required is a present fitness, and prior mental or emotional illness or conditions are relevant only so far as they indicate the existence of a present lack of fitness.

"Good Moral Character" as used in these rules refers to the qualities of fairness, discreetness, honesty, reasonableness, unquestionable integrity and ability and willingness to act in accordance with the standards set forth in the state Rules of Professional Conduct.

It would be interesting to see which state bars Lawrence Reza Ershaghi seeks admission. How does the general public present their concerns regarding the character fitness of said bar applicants/members?

Posted by: justamomof4 at April 14, 2006 11:22 AM

That's the first time I've seen the verb "was monstered" outside of Shakespeare.

Posted by: Television at April 14, 2006 11:23 AM

Justamomof4 - I loved Ershaghi's "Angry Iranian Webblog", although I suppose "angry Iranian" is redundant as I've never seen any other kind.

Posted by: MP at April 14, 2006 11:37 AM

Re: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lawrence+Reza+Ershaghi&btnG=Google+Search

I read some of the stuff by Ershagi and it is serious agit-prop by a foreign agent, an infil-traitor of the most vicious sort, one you certainly don't want in any government position or even in a university.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 14, 2006 11:46 AM

Of course they don't want democracy. They use the excuse that they are spreading islam to live off of a country. They use this excuse to steal, rape, murder. The reason islam insists on being spread around the world is because it destroys each country it invades and then needs the resources of other countries to keep it alive. If the world was wholly islamic the evidence shows that the planet would die.

Posted by: DaveMate at April 14, 2006 11:57 AM

feralee: "Yet another of the many and numerous Muslim/Islamic associations, councils, federations, societies, groups, federation of councils, supreme councils of federations, and on and on and on. Don't these people have anything more productive to occupy their time with?"

Yes, and why don't they ever seem to realise they wouldn't be able to have these millions of groups without the democracy they so despise. Why don't they just leave? I know I keep saying it but it's just the most obvious thing to say. Why why why why why don't they just leave? Of course we know the answer. They wouldn't be able to have it so good anywhere else. They wouldn't have such freedom without democracy. They're just incapable of admitting it. There should be a rule. If you really believe it's better somwhere else, then you should be forced to go. I know there is nowhere perfect, but it seems that things aren't perfect because of people like this. Get rid of them and our societies really will be better.

Posted by: calum at April 14, 2006 12:03 PM

So finally they come out with the truth!! WAKE UP folks!!

Our mistake is clear, freedom of religion should be based on the religion, respect needs to be earnt, not automatic. We can not treat Islam like other religions, because its different to ALL the rest and has no place in Australia.

At its most basic core Islam teaches hate and contempt for non-believers, other religions, our governments, and any non-islamic way of life.

Solution?

1. Ban Islam in Australia outright.

2. Ban live export of livestock to a countries where a cruel islamic halal slaughter occours.

3. All who wish to be muslim, sell up and repay all funds with interest to our government!

4. Muslims take your spawn and get on the sheep carriers and return to where you came from.

5. We continue to take migrants from the other 5/6ths of the worlds population who don't bring this plaque to our shores.

Its a hard pill to swallow, but come on Aussie, come on.

Posted by: sri at April 14, 2006 12:24 PM

Muslims are in the west for one reason only: TO DESTROY IT. And to kill western people. Forget anything else.

Blood will tell.

Posted by: pythagoras at April 14, 2006 2:36 PM

State bar associations, perhaps pushed by the ABA, or even by a mandate from Congress, should require of all those wishing to practice law an oath of allegiance, an oath to uphold and protect the American Constitution. And those who demonstrate a deep or even fanatical acceptance of another belief-system that flatly contradicts the Constitution, should be treated as incapable of truthfully being capable of swearing such an oath of loyalty.

This is a matter of logic -- nothing else. The American Constitution, its view of man, its individual-centered rights, is flatly contradicted by the letter and spirit of Islam. What will the Lawrence Reza Ershaghis of this world present as their argument against the claim that they cannot possibly offer their loyalty to the Constitution or its Infidel nation-state?

That requirement of an oath to support the Constitution needs to be passed sooner rather than later, so as to prevent those who, though they may hate American liberties, wish to exploit them fully on behalf of a belief-system that, were its adherents to triumph, would if they could do away with altogether -- for Infidels and now-triumphant Believers alike.

Posted by: Hugh at April 14, 2006 6:16 PM

Sri,

Ban live export of livestock to a countries where a cruel islamic halal slaughter occours.

Yup agreed, still it's good to be selling not buying from islam, Malysia has a market of muslims who will buy pre slaughtered carcasses. This way they are halal slaughtered here, where we have animal welfare standards, we stun them before they are bled.

Hugh,

there was talk here in Oz of each new citizen taking the oath out loud and individually so they could actully be seen to swear to our country.

I just found out here we have been letting in the muslim brotherhood as refugees (under the clause they are persicuted for religious beliefs)

Posted by: meredith at April 14, 2006 7:30 PM

For our good and peace of mind as well the possible freedom of muslims from islam, separation from islam and muslims is the only answer.

Posted by: DP111 at April 14, 2006 9:26 PM

Meredith,

"... each new citizen taking the oath out loud and individually so they could actully be seen to swear to our country..."

A bit too simplistic, don't you think?

A proper Mohammedan who's religion not only 'allows ' him to rob, rape and 'kill infidels wherever he finds them' will have NO problem swearing a false oath in order to remain in the country and fight the Jihad as commanded by master Mo.

It is a real fiasco that Australia has given shelter to members of the Muslim brotherhood and Hizb-ut-Tahrir who would have been persecuted for 'extremism' in their own Islamic crap-holes.

Would we have given shelter to 'extreme communists' who were to extreme for the Russians or the Chinese during that era?

Would we give shelter to Nazis who are more 'extreme' than the Nazis were, because they would be imprisoned in Germany for sedition & subversion?

But strangely, ignorance and the (false) perception that the cult of Islam is a 'religion', allows the further infiltration of our society, even prevents us from the re-export of this vermin which is totally unacceptable and endangers our well-being and our future.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 14, 2006 10:24 PM

Sheik,

Yeh it is simplistic and not enough i totally agree, but if we can get a declaration from Aussie haters that they will uphold to our country at least we may have something to charge and or boot them out with...when they start mouthing and bombing off.

The muslim brotherhood...... it's just vile isn't it, apparently some were not gettign in as they couldn't prove they were in the brotherhood therefor had no proof of persicution... This is just insane.

Did you know mamood habib is havign a slide show at the UTS in Sydney today, doesnt that just make you sick... Bet the horrid man even has groupies.

Posted by: meredith at April 14, 2006 10:30 PM

Why are Muslims in Australia? (Or anywhere else in the Western world?)

Why are termites in a house's frame?

Same answer.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 15, 2006 12:14 AM

Usman Badar needs to be sent packing. Immediately!
Posted by: William The Crusader

Only after he is interveiwed on national TV for 2 weeks solid. Let the public see this.

Posted by: meredith at April 15, 2006 2:11 AM

DP111: That solution is at best a band aid. It is every Muslim's mandated duty to attack non-Muslim strongholds. Islam demands this of Muslims--there is NO choice in the matter. The Muslim armies of killers will be coming to attack non-Muslims everywhere, just as the Kuran orders them to...

Posted by: pythagoras at April 15, 2006 2:37 PM

I agree with Costello. Muslims who emmigrate to any non-Muslim country should agree to live by and respect its values and laws. Otherwise, if they do not, they should be denied entry or deported if they are already living in non-Muslim countries

It is time for the rest of the Western World to stop coddling haters and extremists from Islamic nations!

Posted by: Christian at April 15, 2006 9:37 PM