l have asked a friend of mine to order Robert's book, as it was not there. she is the head librarian in the county, a very low muslim count. they seem to like the cities. anyhow our taxpayers should have good access to good books. and l think if anyone else can get these books in their local library its a good start. besides more people in the county (agricultural areas) tend to be more conservative. they do not want government handouts and or support, and yes own guns!

Posted by: Lulu at April 16, 2006 9:10 AM

Well, if it constitutes sexual harassment to recomend a book perhaps the next P.I.G. should come with a centrefold.

This SHOULD be unbelievable. It SHOULD be ridiculous. I wish it were too stupid to be true but nothing is anymore.

Here in Australia the universities are no better. Other Australian JWers will probably recall the insipid parasites who congregated in their precious seats of learning to enourage their fellows to burn their (OUR!) own flag.

Not so long ago I had a conversation with a fellow student who had spent his early childhood in Pakistan. I thought this may give some perspective. It should've but it didn't. After being a 5 year old watching his mother being spat on and called a "white whore" prior to entering tertiary education he sat there asserting that it was ridiculous to suggest that Islam was anything but a religion of peace . . . or at the same as any other religion.

This was a fitting prelude to his telling me that 6000 people (Jews & Christians, who else?) stayed away from work on 9/11 and that the footage appartly shows a gigantic bomb strapped to the second plane before the demo charges went off . . .

Why did I waste my time? I could've had a more productive conversation with a piece of furniture.

Posted by: Razorskarr at April 16, 2006 9:25 AM

"...Savage was put under “investigation” by OSU’s Office of Human Resources after three professors filed a complaint of discrimination and harassment against him, saying that the book suggestions made them feel “unsafe...”

The activities of the Ohio State University make me feel "very unsafe..."

The "three professors, who filed a complaint of discrimination and harassment against him", need to be investigated for subversion and sedition, (if not outright treason,) intimidation, filing a frivolous lawsuit to stifle intellectual discourse & freedom of expression.

If I had my way, I would have these 'professors' tarred & feathered and run the gauntlet.

Frankly, I think we have come to the end of the line...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 16, 2006 9:37 AM

May the brains of these "unsafe" professors at OSU rise from the graves of their self-delusion on this endlessly hopeful day.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 16, 2006 9:48 AM

There is only one book on current university reading lists that should make every non-Muslim of sense feel unsafe. That book is the Qur'an, with blood-curdling passages instructing Believers in what to do with Infidels. Copies of this book, and even more, copies of the Hadith, and even more, copies of the full, Muslim version (for Muslims) of the life of Muhammad, should make all Christians, all Jews, all Hindus, all Buddhists, all Confucians, all agnostics and atheists, feel very unsafe indeed.

Posted by: Hugh at April 16, 2006 9:50 AM

This is a clear attempt by an entire university faculty to censor what is, after all, one person's mere "recommendations" for reading, recommendations consisting of four books, three by reputable writers and the fourth by a politician no more disreputable, in his prose, than Jimmy Carter or Hilary Clinton or Edward Kennedy or any other book-of-the-month-club pontificator). All these claims about the need to preserve tenure so that "unpopular" views will have a place in the wonderful, uninhibited, free discussion that supposedly takes place in universities today, universities dominated by the ACLU, and the Association of American University Professors, both so very careful about which causes and people they will defend and which ignore, are shown up as nonsense.

This being the case, it is time for the Ohio State Legislature to begin thinking of ways to end the curse of tenure, that locks in, for life, those who have turned universities into the mess they have become.

Note, by the way, the most hideous and telling detail of all: "OSU Mansfield faculty voted without dissent to file charges against Savage." "Without dissent" -- not a word of dissent, from any of the fauculty members, in the decision to "file charges" against a librarian who was asked to recommend a few books, and did so. One wonders if anyone would have objected had his four recommendations consisted of three books by John Esposito, Tariq Ramadan, Edward Said, and one not written but carefully edited by, Michael Sells -- that famous "Approaching the Qur'an: The Lyrical Suras" which gives a completely false view of Islam. Of course, we already know that Esposito is assigned in classes on Islam by Mesanostrans everywhere, that Said is assigned in courses ostensibly on "literature" (really, on the literature discussed as a branch of politics, which is a different thing), that Tariq Ramadan only awaits an English translation before he, too, is thrust down the throats of naive undergraduates everywhere, and that Michael Sells's "Aprroaching the Qur'an" is, in fact, not merely "recommended" but has been made mandatory reading, in past years, for incoming freshman at the University of North Carolina, and no doubt in other places as well.

When will the legislature, or taxpayers, in Ohio State, choose to express their displeasure with this in the only way that faculty members, and university administrators, understand -- cutting budgets, cutting salaries, exercising vigilance, beginning to reassert control over these laughing academies that are no laughing matter?

Posted by: Hugh at April 16, 2006 10:06 AM

Hugh is absolutely correct regarding the Qur'an! It is totally materialistic as well as being 100% earthbound. There is a complete lack of any semblence of spirituality within that work. Simply to hold that work in my hands brings chills to body and soul! Don't adherents of that stuff have any brains?

Posted by: LilOleMissy at April 16, 2006 10:15 AM

I fear that we will have to fight a civil war first, if there is to be any hope in winning the war on jihad.

Posted by: Sheik er' Bouti at April 16, 2006 10:15 AM

We are divided, ready to be conquered. The beasts smell the blood and are circling the herd. Someone please prove that I am wrong.

Posted by: Sheik er' Bouti at April 16, 2006 10:50 AM

This is absolutley ludicrous. There must be some way to support Mr. Savage and can the three scared "professors." Does anybody know anything about these so-called professors?

Posted by: mustang65 at April 16, 2006 10:58 AM

The public decision to wage total war against those who have taken up arms against us is not being made in the universities, walnut panelled offices of elected officials nor in corporate boardrooms. The public dialogue leading to that decision is taking place at the NASCAR race tracks. Recent polls show that the median voter in America is close to making that decision. The last time the American median voter made that decision, it was manifested on two summer days in August 1945.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at April 16, 2006 11:16 AM

This SHOULD be the point where one overwhelming, indignant, uncontrolled burst of nationwide laughter really kills and buries the whole PC nonsense under an avalanche of rubble. A stand-up comedian could not make this stuff up. A politician would be called a demagogue if he invented anything like it. It is really beyond the imagination of any normal human being. It bespeaks a form of individual consciousness and collective behaviour so completely divorced from reality as to be wholly self-referential, with absolutely no footing in the real world. It is, in short, collective lunacy. Any Ohio voter would have to ask, is it to these people that we entrust the education of our children? Any man of goodwill would immediately take it on himself to deny them food, drink and housing.

Posted by: Paolo at April 16, 2006 11:16 AM

Before I began reading Eurabia, which I am as we speak, I termed the EU "Fourth Reich." I feel better about that now.

From reading Front Page, JW, LGF, no-pasaran, Brussels Journal, EURSOC, and other Internet research I'd already come to the conclusion the only glue holding the EU together was Jew-hatred and anti-Americanism. Eurabia makes it painfully obvious. It's so well written and fact-based, no wonder universities view it as poison to their socialist, globalist, multicult, ideology.

Our [America's] Oldest Enemy [France] will be in my next book lot purchase from Amazon (free shipping and discounts when you buy books in volume).

I will complete the Robert Spencer collection in lieu of a donation at this time.

Back to France. After reading Eurabia, it's safe to say the unrest in France, Europe generally, and the next world war (arguably in progress) will be due in large part (as usual) to misguided, selfish, and ill-conceived French policy and leadership.

The EU must be destroyed before it destroys Europe.

Posted by: Beagle at April 16, 2006 11:51 AM

Well, I've read Eurabia but not the other three. I thank the librarian for the addition to my reading list!

Il Toscano

Posted by: il toscano at April 16, 2006 11:54 AM

I'll admit, I have not read these books, so are they sexual in nature? Are they like Valley of the Dolls was back years ago? Are they porn books??? I don't understand, since they don't sound like anything sexual, how could they be construed as sexual harassment?

Posted by: freewoman at April 16, 2006 12:32 PM

Beagle-
'Our Oldest Enemy -France' is a very bad, stupid book. Try "Our culture; What's Left of It" by Dalrymple. It depends on whether or not you want to feel 'all riled up' after reading a book or 'smarter'.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at April 16, 2006 12:54 PM

This incident if correctly reported, is so outrageous and sickening that I would suggest to Mr. Savage that he files his own law suit against the three professors, the university and the state of Ohio for the trampling of his civil rights.

The stench of this fascist liberalism thuggery makes me want to puke. Maybe I should also file a lawsuit against these people for denying my right of health and pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: William The Crusader at April 16, 2006 1:08 PM

There is a complete lack of any semblence of spirituality within that work. Simply to hold that work in my hands brings chills to body and soul! Don't adherents of that stuff have any brains?

Posted by: LilOleMissy at April 16, 2006 10:15 AM

You hit the nail! Not only there is complete lack of spirituality, this book contains 'cover-up' passages of 'compassion', which if one reads closely, is only for 'Muslims'. In other words, 'massacar' (non-Muslims), masked by 'compassion' (for Muslims). Only 'Turner Diaries' comes close to this dangerous cult manual, but then, 'Turner Diaries' does not mask itself in 'compassion' as this cult manual, masked as a 'Holy book', does.

Posted by: Alert at April 16, 2006 1:16 PM

This is Stalinism in its purest form. Savage should file a countersuit on the grounds that he is being harrassed, his civil rights to free speech are being suppressed, and that the other board members are engaging in illegal censorship.

He should also add a fifth book to his recommendations: George Orwell's 1984.

Posted by: Provoslavni at April 16, 2006 1:23 PM

If one reads through this mess the issue of the complaint against Savage nothing to do with Bat Ye'or or even Horowitz (a surprise), at least on the surface, but with The Marketing of Evil by David Kupelian; two gay professors find this particular book blatantly homophobic, that is the ostensible problem: they feel that Savage has both acted unprofessionally by recommending it, and claim the very act of recommending this book (given Savage's position) has made them feel harrassed on the job.

Bat Ye'or's work is not relevant to the complaint (although among the e-mails someone did mention xenophobia as a problem with the recommended books, in the plural), but one wonders about the problem of guilt by association; will those sympathic with the complaint against Savage view Bat Ye'or's work (which they have problably have not read) as irrelevant, extreme, or fringe simply because her work is now mentioned in this complaint?

The issues Robert Spencer raises at Jihad Watch consistently have to do with human rights and how Islamic ideology threatens those rights; one would think that folks concerned about gay rights would carefully read Spencer's work and rationally consider the implications of attempts to impose Sharia, for instance, for gays.

Also, as far as Bat Ye'or's work goes, her well documented arguments concerning high level efforts to create a large political and cultural entity out of Europe and parts of the Middle East should be chilling for gay rights activists. What will the encroachment of Islamic ideology mean for gays in Europe over the long haul? This is not an irrational, xenophobic question, and yet one cannot even ask the question without raising suspicions of xenophobia and evoking 'neo-con' stereotypes.

That is a shame for all.

Posted by: JTF at April 16, 2006 1:25 PM

Please note that this leftist-communist tyranny took place at a taxpayer funded university. The taxpayers of Ohio should raise hell at seeing their university system become a hiring hall for feminazis and neo-Marxist kooks. Otherwise unemployables.

The left is anti free speech. This is infuriating!

Posted by: dennisw at April 16, 2006 1:50 PM

this time I agree with Paolo. A lot of things going on nowadays are so absurd, that a comedian wouldn't dare make them up. They wouldn't even occur to the most way out comic writer.

I agree with Beagle that the EU ought to be destroyed before it destroys more.

Posted by: Eliyahu at April 16, 2006 2:32 PM

I'm sorry, but am I missing something here?

Where is the specific charge that constitutes sexual harassment?

I know the guidlines have become somewhat ridiculous in the work place over the past decade thanks to trial lawyers working hard as usual to drum up business anywhere they can.

Off color jokes that may be overheard can be considered sexual harassment, and leering at someone can be considered sexual harassment now days as well, but recommending these books is sexual harassment; I don't think so!! So where is the rest of the article because there is definitely something missing here?

Maybe it is me? I'm to focused on celebrating "Resurrection Day" with family and friends I guess.

Posted by: Mackie at April 16, 2006 2:44 PM

If a book can sexually harass, then the Koran has to be the ultimate dirty old man.

Posted by: Interested at April 16, 2006 3:51 PM

This is the kind of crap, that when I hear it, makes my blood boil! We are on the verge of another World War, and these pseudo-intellectual hypocrites are paving the way for the Great Takeover. When the war does start and western society is preserved, these traitors need to have their heads shaved, because these politically correct whores (this includes the men) are sleeping with the enemy.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 16, 2006 4:50 PM

Following up on JTF's comments, the contention that Kupelian's book is homophobic is based on some carefully selected reviews on Amazon.com.

A quick check on Amazon shows this to be a 4.5 star book - of 145 reviews 116 are 5 star, 9 are 4 star, and 20 are 1 star. Some of the 1 star reviews are the only ones that mention homophobia, and these 1 star reviews are quite obviously bigotted and insulting, eg "If your (sic) a far right neo-wacko like the writer you will love it". Gems from these enlightened people include the mindless idiot who gave the King James Bible 1 star ("Keep this book handy in the bathroom ... for when you run out of toilet paper"); and another fool who gives five 1 star reviews of five different Truth Behind the Da Vinci Code books, each with word-for-word identical reviews complete with spelling mistake.

It is highly unlikely that any of these reviewers have actually read the book, but are just trumpeting their blatantly anti-Christian bias. That so-called professors should base their objections on these reviews shows pretty clearly their own agenda.

Posted by: Paul at April 16, 2006 4:50 PM

The Leftist Stifling of the Academic Right: The Right to Destroy

University Professor Invites Students to DESTROY Pro-Life Student Display

"I did, outside of class during the break, invite students to express their freedom-of-speech rights to destroy the display if they wished to," Jacobsen said.

This professor, Sally Jacobsen, does not understand the limits of free speech. Her behavior is criminal and she must be dealt with by the university.

I hope the University, as well as law enforcement, ensures that any criminal acts committed are investigated and prosecuted.

I'm not going to stand by while lawlessness becomes an accepted method of responding to another person's free speech.

I've already emailed Northern Kentucky University President James Votruba: votruba@nku.edu

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Posted by: Jim The Kafir at April 16, 2006 5:51 PM

JTF,

"Homophobia" is just another thoughtcrime, like "Islamophobia." Nobody can define it without sounding ridiculous and making the defense case.

Given the 100,000,000+ casualties of Communism last century alone it's obvious to me most of our university professors are far more dangerous than a bible-reading Christian. When this or that Christian crosses the line into stalking, harassing, or stoning gay people, then they will have something to punish. But Americans are just too tolerant to allow the angry Left to prove bigotry by example. Fred Phelps (A Democrat by the way) is the poster boy for this type of behavior. More ink and electrons have been wasted on one lunatic than most of the serious geopolitical issues of our time. As a society, we're going to pay for our obsession with the trivial and meaningless.

I can't believe nobody at OSU realized, or cared, how Orwellian and Stalinist this type of behavior actually is.

poetcomic1,

I've decided against it after reading the reviews at Amazon. It appears the book left out the war we fought against France in the Caribbean (Quasi-War?), among other reasons to hate the French. I probably could write a decent anti-French diatribe anyway. I know about Vichy, their complicity in the Holocaust, using American troops as cannon fodder in WWI, and the EEC (EU) having been based on French anti-Americanism and Jew-hatred. That's enough for me.

Posted by: Beagle at April 16, 2006 7:47 PM

The key to this holding is how corrupt our judiciary is. It is obvious that these fake charges of harrassment are a legal assault to impose self-censorship on the librarian and the other 13 or 14 non-Marxists working on our campuses nationwide.

Never forget: judges are just lawyers in robes.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at April 17, 2006 6:36 AM

It seems as if the passage below proves the truth about what Winston Churchill said about the destructive influence of those who are purportedly educated 73 years ago.

"The worst difficulties from which we suffer do not come from without. They come from within. They do not come from the cottages of the wage-earners. They come from a peculiar type of brainy people always found in our country, who, if they add something to its culture, take much from its strength. Our difficulties come from the mood of unwarrantable self-abasement into which we have been cast by a powerful section of our own intellectuals. They come from the acceptance of defeatist doctrines by a large proportion of our politicians....Nothing can save England if she will not save herself. If we lose faith in ourselves, in our capacity to guide and govern, if we lose our will to live, then indeed our story is told."

You could swap the word "England" for any Western country and still it will ring true, and if Churchill could come back to life, the university campuses would leave him horror-struck, and this is proof that common sense is something that isn't learned, and either political correctness stops them from learning the truth about Islam, or if they do know everything about Islam, it prevents them from telling the truth about it.

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at April 17, 2006 7:39 AM

Institutions of higher learning have been taken over by the Left since the '60s. Why? Well simple. The study of journalism and politics and other humanities, are what they call liberal arts courses. High School kids who have a liberal disposition are much more likely to be interested in pursuing a post secondary education than run-of-the-mill kids, who go to trade schools, or business schools, or don't go at all and join the family business. And when these kids choose to go to university, they naturally gravitate towards the liberal arts. So they become liberal lawyers, liberal politicians, liberal journalists, liberal art critics, and our society takes on its current liberal overtones.

So what happened is that we created, for two generations now, a liberal "elite" ruling class. That's the problem. And conservatives created the problem by not producing equal numbers of kids that sought out higher education. Conservative kids worked the farm while the liberals went to university to attain places in society from which they could implement their own personal politics. So while intelligent conservatives grow corn, intelligent liberals write newspaper articles and edit newscasts. That's why we have an uneven playing field and have thus resorted to blogs.

What worse, is that many of these liberal kids got degrees in education. So they now run the classrooms as high school teachers, or worse, university professors. They sit on the admisssions boards, campus councils, and run the teacher unions. And when non-political kids enter into these liberal arts classes, they are indoctrinated with Leftist views from the previous liberal students who later on became the professors themselves. So it's a vicious circle.

As a result we have an oligarchy of the Left by default. That is why I never went to university. I knew I would be persecuted and never given a fair shake by the teacher. I could never survive in a university environment.

Let me recount an anecdotal story from the tenth grade in 1984. I had an English teacher that was the epitome of the Left. He looked like John Lennon, long scraggly hair, green-tinted glasses, hippy clothes, and a beard.

Well one day in class we were doing a word game. We had to use various words in a sentence. It was the boys vs. the girls. My word was 'unilateral'. I had to use that word in a sentence. So I my sentence was, "Peace protestors wish for America to disarm unilaterally."

The teacher scowled "incorrect!" and the boys lost a point.

I academically demonstrated the definition of the word "unilateral" but was not given credit for it because my sentence offended his personal politics. So the pursuit of education met up with the bully pulpit of the teacher. Clearly his Leftist views transcended the ethics of his profession. And that is the situation today throughout not only universities and colleges, but even high schools.

I was only 15 years old. He was about 40. But as an activist liberal he used his color of authority to taint his classroom and to target a conservative kid. I graduated with a D. The only reason he didn't fail me was that he wanted me out of his class.

Posted by: thethinker at April 17, 2006 10:02 AM

If I had my way, I would have these 'professors' tarred & feathered and run the gauntlet.
Frankly, I think we have come to the end of the line...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
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a man after my own heart...let me buy the tar and feathers and we shall sing patriotic songs while we tar and feather them!!

oh and I guess common sense and dignity are gone because they made someone "feel unsafe"....

Posted by: Erik at April 17, 2006 2:54 PM

I have three questions:

1) What are the names of the professors? If they are muslim, then a COUNTER lawsuit should be based on religous discrimination/ and depending upon the motivations of the professors fall under the Federal Hate Laws Act.

2) Are these books in the OSU library?

3) Was Savage recommending differant reading lists based on male and female?

It sounds like there is much more to this than is being reported, and if not this should constitute a counter lawsuit against the Professors and the University.

Bat Ye'or and Publisher should voluntarily include theirselves as a co-defendants in this lawsuit and countersue. Once again this is an attempt to stifle freedom of speech.

Posted by: alaskan1000 at April 17, 2006 4:27 PM

Alarmed Pig Farmer sez:

"...Never forget: judges are just lawyers in robes..."

Not only that.

I have never been able to befriend a lawyer who did not, after being invited to a 2-cork lunch (and some serious desert afterwards, did not try to) charge me for 'having him'.

Lawyers are shysters and shysters are lawyers. For all I know the judges are worse.

Lawyers have to make a living, somehow. If they are good, you pay them. If they are bad, you still have to pay them.

Judges don't even risk that much: Government service in the end means fixed income. (Supplements welcome)
Draw your own conclusions...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 18, 2006 5:54 AM

Where is the specific charge that constitutes sexual harassment? Posted by: Mackie

The Marketing of Evil by David Kupelian was perceived as an anti-Homosexual book, and thereby triggered the comment. I suspect that if that book hadn't been in this list, at least the charges filed wouldn't have been sexual harrasment.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at April 19, 2006 1:07 AM