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Ramin repeats ancient blood libels. His statements are also in line with Sistani's statements about unbelievers, and traditional Shi'ite views of impurity.
From Ynet News, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
Senior aide to Iranian president says Jews have been accused of spreading deadly plagues throughout history because they are filthy; states that as long as Israel exists, 'there will never be peace and security in Middle East' Jews are filthy people, and that is why they have been accused throughout history of spreading deadly disease and plagues, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s advisor Mohammad Ali Ramin told students during a visit at the town of Rasht, the Iranian news site Rooz Online reported Thursday. Ramin, a historian who serves as the president's most senior aide, is believed to be the man behind the regime's recent statements that the Holocaust is a myth.“Historically, there are many accusations against the Jews. For example it was said that they were the source for such deadly disease as the plague and typhus. This is because the Jews are very filthy people. For a time people also said that they poisoned water wells belonging to Christians and thus killed them,” the site quoted Ramin as saying.
“I only know that Jews have been accused of such conspiracies and sabotage throughout history and have not performed well," he added.
Posted by Robert at June 8, 2006 7:18 AM
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Jews are filthy and have "not performed well"?
That's why there are so few Jewish doctors and so many Arab contributions to science. It all makes sense now.
at June 8, 2006 7:57 AM
And Dubya is getting into bed with this gang. After all, they might feel humiliated if they can't have nuclear weapons to play with like the big boys do.
Posted by: Eliyahu
at June 8, 2006 7:59 AM
One of the best kept secrets of us filthy Jews is that some of us have showers and bathtubs hidden in our bathrooms.
Please don't tell our friends!!!!
Posted by: Shy Guy
at June 8, 2006 8:03 AM
So does this mean if someone converts they can get out of the weekly shower?
Excellenttttttttt
Posted by: payingattention
at June 8, 2006 8:33 AM
So Jews "...have not performed well". Obviously he's never seen Mel Brooks, Rodney Dangerfield, the Marx brothers or the Three Stooges.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069
at June 8, 2006 9:10 AM
"Iran leader's aide: Jews are filthy"
This leader also has said this to the greatest Jewish person of all, Jesus. Christians must take note of this.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at June 8, 2006 9:21 AM
Nor has this clever fellow heard that not only have about a quarter of the Nobel prizes awarded been presented to Jews, largely for scientific achievements, but also for the arts and humanities, and, very particularly, that Israel is the home of the world's formost biomedical research institute, the Weitzman Institute.
And I guess, somehow, this Iranian turkey doesn't even know Islamic history very well. Wasn't Moses Maimonides Saladin's personal physician for many years?
And we have what -- other than pretty rugs and an interesting cuisine -- on the credit side for Persian culture since the days of the Islamic conquests?
Posted by: waterdragon52
at June 8, 2006 9:22 AM
I told this little story sometime ago, however I shall tell it again.
Sometime ago I met a bangladeshi moslem who had a very logical explanation as to why bangladesh (a country best veiwed from 45,000 FT) was so prone to flooding. The reason is the Israeli and Indians that Jews and Hindu's are chopping down all the trees to sell and cause the flooding.
The fact that banglaSh!7 hole lies beneath sea level is not important.
The mind boggles at the moronic stupidity of these people.
By the way does anyone have any links on Israeli agroscientists working in India, I have heard there are quite a few in the western desert areas.
Regards
AI
Posted by: apostate_islam
at June 8, 2006 9:28 AM
The rabbis from Neturei Karta will be pleased that they are held in such high esteem in Iran:
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1060
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1070
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 8, 2006 9:42 AM
"Sometime ago I met a bangladeshi moslem who had a very logical explanation as to why bangladesh (a country best veiwed from 45,000 FT) was so prone to flooding. The reason is the Israeli and Indians that Jews and Hindu's are chopping down all the trees to sell and cause the flooding."
-- from a posting above
The craziest conspiracy theories, the kind of thing that only the most lunatic believe in Infidel lands (Thierry Meyssan in France comes to mind; those who believe Lyndon Johnson killed Kennedy, the Freemasons were behind Lenin, and so on) is par for the Persian Gulf course, and points east, west and south, wherever Islam hangs its hat.
And it can also affect locals who are not Muslims but affected by the habit of mental submission and sheer lunacy that goes unopposed in daily life.
One example: a Lebanese woman, Greek Orthodox, who had lived for decades in the West, yet assured me that apiculture in Jounieh and other villages had suffered "because the Isra-el-is had deliberately sent over disease-carrying bees to destroy the bees of Lebanese farmers." Asked why they would do such a thing, she answered "In order to sell more Is-ra-eli honey."
I didn't bother arguing with her. I raised an eyebrow. I thought of her differently. That was that.
Posted by: Hugh
at June 8, 2006 10:47 AM
"One of the best kept secrets of us filthy Jews is that some of us have showers and bathtubs hidden in our bathrooms."
And, go figure! You also figured out it's OK to use toilet paper, and that flushing doesn't make Satan happy.
For those who don't know,Muslims are afraid to let toilet paper touch their anus. It's true! I know it sounds preposterous, but this is forbidden to them by their "religious laws". It doesn't stop there. They're also "forbidden" to defecate in moving water, so the more literal minded of them won't even go in a toilet even if a perfectly good one is at hand. This means they will defecate into a waste can next to a functioning toilet rather than offend their Allah, or encourage Satan by such heinous transgressions!
Just some fun facts about Muslims.
***The Arab habit of never eating with the left hand and never touching anything if they can avoid it with their left hand also stems from this charming tidbit: If you're forbidden to use toilet paper, what's a person to do? You got it. The left hand is the method of choice, and Allah approves. They wipe their asses with their hand. This is one of the things Muslims are actually proud about. They consider this "clean". They consider wiping with paper to be sinful and dirty. Somehow, toilet paper and it's use pleases Satan, and makes Allah extremely wrathful.
Believe it or not. But disbelieve this, and many other staggering facts at your own peril. Are they "like us"? I don't think so. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: jsla
at June 8, 2006 12:26 PM
Just some fun facts about Muslims.***The Arab habit of never eating with the left hand and never touching anything if they can avoid it with their left hand also stems from this charming tidbit: If you're forbidden to use toilet paper, what's a person to do? You got it. The left hand is the method of choice, and Allah approves. They wipe their asses with their hand.
Posted by: jsla at June 8, 2006 12:26 PM
at June 8, 2006 12:59 PM
Charmin: obviously a zionist plot to lure unsuspecting Muslims into Satan's arms.
at June 8, 2006 1:15 PM
(Or muslim sphincters...)
Posted by: jsla
at June 8, 2006 1:15 PM
Is this true? Do Molems really disdain TP? I thought I was familiar with every conceivable detail about this vile culture, from female circumcision to the rubrics of liturgical beheadings. But now I hear it's regarded as unclean to employ Great Northern. Oy.
Someone please tell me it's not true or that it's not all that widespread a Muslim view.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami
at June 8, 2006 3:03 PM
Haid Dasalami -
They use their left hand and water. Period. I've been there long enough to know.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at June 8, 2006 3:16 PM
True story!
And if you (or Sean Penn) or any of those hanging around Mohammedans,- wonder why they all run around with a little water container:
Thats exactly the reason for it.
And they show you by parading that little water container around that they are "clean"....
Which in turn means you are filthy because you don't. But you are infidel, you are filthy anyway....
and so on and so on ad perversum....
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at June 8, 2006 3:45 PM
How about a song, sheik yer'mami (ptmr).
The subject seems "ripe".
at June 8, 2006 4:35 PM
Haid Dasalami -- go check out a site like "Ask the Imam"
http://islam.tc/ask-imam/index.php
and go to the left menu. Drill down in the "Purity (Tahaarah" section and see what you can see. The most insane swill -- the kinds of things that make my own sphincter contract up into my bowels in revulsion are to be witnessed therein. It would be funny if it weren't so insane.
Then, for fun, to to a searchable Koran site, or a searchable Suras and Hadiths site. Enter words like "urine" and "semen" and "blood" and "fingernails" and "hair" and see the fucking insanity of it all. We are dealing with an alien culture, imported from planet Zimu, it seems. Read about Muhammad fiddling with the 9 year old Aisha in a tub of water in the middle of her menses. Read about the way they obsess over semen stains on the "prophet's" robes after he banged her.
This is only one of the reasons I always attach descriptors such as "filth stained" and "shit stained" to Islam and their beliefs. If the world only knew what a mind numbing freak show it is, we'd outlaw them forever and assiduously bury those that refuse to abandon the poop stain of Islam. Afterwards we would gladhand each other, feel we had done yeoman's work, and retire for some beers and potato chips.
Posted by: jsla
at June 8, 2006 4:44 PM
In one London secondary school where the pupils were mainly Moslems, there was a problem with the toilet seats breaking because the pupils stood on them and toilet rolls would often be contemptuously thrown into the loo, whole. However, I've heard, at second hand, that the locals used to use pebbles, in Aden.
Posted by: wallyUK
at June 8, 2006 6:15 PM
The invaders from the desert brought with them no tradition of learning, no heritage of culture to lands which they conquered. They sat as pupils at the feet of the peoples they subdued…. When we speak of ‘Arab medicine’, or ‘Arab philosophy’ or Arab mathematics’ we do not mean the medical science, philosophy or mathematics that are necessarily the product of the Arabian mind or developed by people living in the Arabian Peninsula….
Philip K. Hitti, History of the Arabs, New York 1967, pp. 174, 240, 420
And that hasn't changed in 1350 years...
Posted by: Hugo Schmidt-Fischer
at June 8, 2006 6:37 PM
Since Muhammad used his hand and pebbles and stones, that's good enough for all of his followers. It makes perfect sense in an insane kind of way.
Posted by: jsla
at June 8, 2006 6:39 PM
Sometime ago I met a bangladeshi moslem who had a very logical explanation as to why bangladesh (a country best veiwed from 45,000 FT) was so prone to flooding. The reason is the Israeli and Indians that Jews and Hindu's are chopping down all the trees to sell and cause the flooding. Posted by: apostate_islamDamn, this too we have to share with the Jooos. Can't we get all the credit for at least this?
As for wiping ones hiney, what do left-handed Muslims do? Or must they be beheaded?
at June 8, 2006 7:18 PM
Thanks, jsla. You are spot on. I actually did some of the research you suggested, and all I can say is I'm sorry I asked :-)
I suppose it's like the falafels. There was no Great Northern in the time of Mohammed (may goat shit be upon him) so therefore we won't use it on our great southerns. TP is just another product of our corrupt infidel culture.
I'm pretty certain I now know enough about Islam.
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: Haid Dasalami
at June 8, 2006 7:39 PM
And beware those falafels. They'll make you feel awful. (another Zionist trick to make Muslims look bad, no doubt...)
Spread the word!
Posted by: jsla
at June 8, 2006 7:58 PM
from people who level of sanitation is as good as 16th Century London
Posted by: Dumbo
at June 8, 2006 8:59 PM
jsla, lay off it!
Felafels are one of their only positive contributions to our way of life
at June 8, 2006 9:01 PM
"The left hand is the method of choice, and Allah approves. They wipe their asses with their hand."
- posted by jsla
eeeeeuuuuuwwwwww!
Sounds like a pretty good reason not to shake hands with left-handed mohammedans.
Posted by: Mike_W
at June 8, 2006 9:27 PM
Oh, jsla....that site you posted has me in stitches! It sure illuminates why so many posters on this site belitte Islam as fit only for little minds.
And Caroline, if you see this, I know you'll get a yuck out of one of the questions posted. It starts out, "If a man has intercourse for a long period [i.e. 5 to 10 minutes] with his wife..." Oh, my; those poor women!
And what the heck is "do the wudhu"??? Sounds like a dance-craze...
Posted by: Vee
at June 8, 2006 10:55 PM
And beware those falafels. Posted by: jsla at June 8, 2006 07:58 PMNow we get the whole picture.
Remember the DW article from a few days ago, where falafel vendors in Baghdad were being forced to close down because "they said there were no falafels in Mohammed the prophet's time"?
That explains why toilet paper is similarly haram.
This has been today's "Learn Islam in 30 seconds" public service announcement.
Investment tip: the pebble commodity market will be hot in Europe over the next decade. Get in on it now. Also consider hedging with leaves.
Posted by: Shy Guy
at June 9, 2006 2:52 AM
Hmmm where is constable Hugh when you need him?
seriously...Yes in fact jsla is indeed correct as I have found out to my misfortune.
Make a point of NEVER accepting anthing from the left hand of a Muslim, even money.
Middle east Sweetmeat sellers often used to hand over their goods to western tourists with the left hand while accepting the money with their right hand. I have no idea if this is still an event but it shows even the arrogance of the average poor Muslim who thought it a big joke that the tourist had no idea. No wonder Cairo curse (diarrhoea) was so common.
Posted by: Zathras
at June 9, 2006 10:52 AM
jsla
Is this the Sunni equivalent of what appears on Ayatollah Sistani's website?
The topics on that page were disgusting, even for Islam. I'm glad I don't know Arabic nor most Islamic terminology, such as ghusl, najasat, istinja, wudu, wuzhu...
Robert & Hugh
If you happen to be reading this, please don't explain - I'm not a prude, but I doubt I could handle it. As every answer ends
and Allah Ta'ala Knows BestPosted by: Infidel Pride
at June 9, 2006 7:26 PM
"Is this true? Do Molems really disdain TP?"
There are enough bad things in Islam without exaggerating. They do not "disdain" TP, they only recommend the use of water, though the Hanafites apparently allow just TP if need be:
http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2764
The idea apparently is that water alone suffices, while water + TP is better than just TP, not that TP is forbidden.
I do not enjoy bickering about these details. I am concerned about the attitude to Muslims shown by malignant, poorly researched remarks about their hygeine. To speak of Muslims that way is just as reprehensible as talking about "filthy Jews".
They are not monsters or aliens. They are your fellow human beings, like it or not, in the grip of a bad ideology. The same is true of Nazis, Stalinists, or what have you. Love them if you can. At a bare minimum, do not hate or despise them; it's wrong.
Posted by: anselm
at June 10, 2006 7:45 AM
Anselm -- Kindly confine your pious Christian absolutisms and hypocrisy to yourself and your fellow fanatics. Persons such as you sometimes are the worst and most deplorable hypocrites, for you are DOUBLE hypocrites.
To adjudge posters above for judging Islam AND Muslims, and then tell them that they are wrong for judging and must not judge is the height of arrogance and false piety.
Keep your imperious criticisms to yourself, execrable hypocrite!
YOU are wrong in every regard, and suggest a suicidal route. If you are truly as saintly as you wish to depict yourself, then high thee thither into the arena -- sacrifice YOURSELF to illustrate your preposterous lie. Die YOUR death without rancour or hatred -- retain YOUR feigned forebearance before the lion's maw of Islam.
For then, at least, we might be able to say: That man practiced what he preached. In the meantime, heal thyself! I deplore your effete defense of Nazis Muslims and Stalinists with your empty pseudo-Christian sanctimony.
It is wrong.
Posted by: jsla
at June 10, 2006 1:08 PM
anselm
Since you seem to have doubts, let me describe this for you.
Usually, toilet paper is sufficient. There may be times when it is inefficient, and several strips are needed to clean one's butt. For such cases, using a damp toilet strip is better, but it must be followed by wiping with a dry toilet strip, or else, one's underwear would get wet. In any case, toilet paper is always better than no toilet paper - contrary to the central assertion of this Imam. Water alone is a piss-poor alternative to toilet paper.
Translate that into Arabic, and I just composed a hadith.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at June 11, 2006 2:50 AM
how do Shi`ites deal with the Sunni charge that the Shi`a schism was a Jewish plot?
Posted by: Eliyahu
at June 11, 2006 6:14 AM
A: Wipe out the Jews to prove that it wasn't.
Posted by: jsla
at June 11, 2006 6:04 PM
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