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More willful ignorance from the dhimmis. "Change sought in definition of terrorism," from the Globe and Mail, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
OTTAWA — The federal government is considering changes to the Anti-Terrorism Act to make it clear police and security agents do not engage in racial or religious profiling.
Yes, horror of horrors, we can't admit what's in front of our faces and acknowledge that there are elements of Islam that are giving rise to violence and fanaticism.
And thus Canadian officials foreclose for themselves any possibility of understanding why such plots develop, how the plotters recruit, and how best to combat the challenge.
Justice Minister Vic Toews said last night he is troubled by the ATA's definition of terrorism as an offence motivated in whole or in part for a "political, religious or ideological purpose."
Never mind that it is all three: political, religious, and ideological. Why, that's "troubling"!
As an opposition MP when Parliament adopted the ATA four years ago, Mr. Toews said he thought the motivation section of the definition would open the door to racial profiling.
Yes, it probably would. And to religious profiling. And, by the way, to the prevention of jihad attacks.
As Justice Minister, he told a Senate committee, he has seen no evidence that in fact the RCMP, CSIS or any other federal law enforcement or security agency has engaged in profiling.Nevertheless, he fears the motive section "may be at cross purposes to Canadian values" of respect for human rights and equality before the law.
Equality before the law does not require willful blindness or tolerance of an imperialist, totalitarian, supremacist ideology.
Moreover, the definition might actually make it more difficult to prosecute a terrorism suspect if the authorities have to prove that beliefs motivated the crime, he added.
Why?
Mr. Toews said the Conservative government is open to dropping this portion of the definition and wants to hear the views of the Senate and House special committees that are reviewing the ATA.Senator Mobina Jaffer, a Liberal, said members of minorities believe racial or religious profiling takes place, and the motive section feeds this distrust of the authorities.
Yes, I'll bet that's true. Let them turn in the jihadists among them, instead of letting them move among them freely as we have seen they did with these 17 jihad plotters recently arrested, and voila, trust will grow.
Posted by Robert at June 13, 2006 7:36 AM
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Yes, this is what I mean. Acknowleding the truth about islam would indeed, violate "canadian values". He has that right. It would violate Canadian left-wing values. Canada is so multicultural and Left-wing, that identifying islam has a motivator for these terrorists, it actually going to be made against the law. They will actually write it out of the definition. Islamic terrorism, as a concept, would be made to disappear - as far as law enforcement goes.
I dare you to find a country more insane than Canada. Sweden? Close. But no cigar. Is it hockey that does this to our politicians? The only common denominator between both nations is a love of hockey.
Posted by: somethingaboutislam
at June 13, 2006 8:05 AM
You know, the only good side to this head-in-the-sand mentality, is that it must drive the jihadists crazy. We are not the only ones going crazy here. Think about it.
The jihadists want the world to know that they are fighting for islam. They are soldiers for mohammad and the islamic way of life. They shout this when they begin their attacks. They blow themselves up for mohammad. Yet, the western left doesn't want to give them credit. That must piss them off:
Jihadist: I fight and die for islam!
Canadian politician: No, you don't. You are just a criminal.
Jihadist: What do you mean, I don't. I carry the sword of the prophet, you dog! I fight for islam!
Politician: No, you don't. You are confused about your religion. Otherwise you would never say that.
Jihadist: Confused about islam?! How dare you, you insolent infidel! I am islam! Islam will conquer the world!
Politician: You don't mean to say that. You are just poor and resentful of your poverty.
Jihadist: What?! I come from a good home. My father was a doctor. We made more than you, you pig! I am not poor. I give my life and my riches to Allah!!
Politician: No, you don't. You just did this because you are confused about your new home.
Jihadist: Are you telling me I don't know my own religion! Do you want to die? How dare you insult me like that?
Politician: That is not an insult to you. Your religious beliefs are not apart of your crimes. Never were. You have never commited any acts on behalf of Allah. Allah would never command you to kill the infidel. Allah commands you to love the infidel.
Jihadist: What??! For this you shall die! I will show you the sword of islam! Allah Snackbar!
Jihadist decapitates lefty politician. Head rolls onto the floor.
Jihadist: There, now you have felt the wrath of Allah, the one true God and mohammad was his messenger. And I his messenger.
Decapitated politician's head: No you aren't. You are just confused.
Jihadist: I'm going insane!!! You fools are driving me crazy!! What do I have to do to convince you? I can't be any more radical than I am! What do you want me to do, walk on air? Seriously, I'm almost ready to give up, this is so frustrating. I'm doing everything in my power to be a solider for islam, but you infidel fools won't give me any credit. You disparage my efforts at every turn. I'm at the end of my rope, really. If I don't start getting some respect from you dhimmis, I'm just going to pack things in. I mean c'mon. I'm ready to die for mohammad, and you are just going to brand me a common criminal. Where's the justice in that? You just don't get this jihad thing, do you? I don't know. I feel like giving up.
Decapitated head: What do you mean give up? You never advocated violence on behalf of islam. How can you give up what you never started?
Jihadist: ARRRRRHHHHH!!!
Jihadist plunges dagger into self. Can not live in a society that refuses to acknowledge jihad and the efforts of jihadists.
Maybe the Left has a method to its madness?
Naw, they are not that clever.
Posted by: somethingaboutislam
at June 13, 2006 8:40 AM
Canada, you truly want to know the definition of terrorism?
You got your answer last week in the arrest of the 17-would-be terrorists.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at June 13, 2006 8:50 AM
Somethingaboutislam,
LOL LOL LOl. That was good. :)
at June 13, 2006 8:53 AM
Who ya gonna believe? The RCMP diversity outreach press officer or your lyin' eyes? ...The other day, listening to an interview on America's National Public Radio with the mayor of Toronto, I was laughing so much I drove off the road. David Miller warmed up with a bit of boilerplate Islamoschmoozing: "You know, in Islam, if you kill one person, you kill everybody. It's a very peaceful religion. And they're as shocked as Torontonians are. And . . ."
Renee Montagne, the anchorette, instantly spotted the ghastly breach of PC etiquette and leapt in: "Well, they sort of are Torontonians," she pointed out.
"Sorry," gulped the mayor, hastily re-smothering Muslims within the great diversity quilt. "They're shocked as every Torontonian is . . ."
Thereafter, Ms. Montagne expressed bafflement that these allegedly alleged fellows would have wanted to commit a terrorist atrocity in what was, compared to the Great Satan next door, "a very open society, very liberal immigration policy, very good social services."
Mayor Miller agreed: "More than half of the people who live in Toronto, including myself, were not born in Canada. And I think that's why Canada works."
"Although it didn't work in this case," Ms. Montagne pointed out, somewhat maliciously.
This is from a new Mark Steyn column:
You can't believe your lyin' eyes
Of course, as he points out:
...the more rubbish spouted by officials in the wake of these events, the more the averagely well-informed person will resent the dissembling. In that sense, Mayor Miller, M. Portelance, commissioner Paddick et al. are colluding in the delegitimizing of the state's institutions. That doesn't seem like a smart move.Posted by: Yojimbo
at June 13, 2006 9:05 AM
Yojimbo:
This is from a new Mark Steyn column:
It's perfect.
Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop
at June 13, 2006 9:30 AM
Nice to know the Canadian cops will spend their time staking-out the local lutheran church instead of the mosque headed by a raving imam. All those Christian car-bombers may force me to cancel my trip to Ontario.
Posted by: Bacon-I Will Miss Thee
at June 13, 2006 10:24 AM
And people wonder why, oh why, that I am so pessimistic about our chances of surviving the Jihad of Violence, Immigration, Demographics and Propaganda. Europe will wake up in time, at the very end, to show a fight worthy of rememberence in Skaldic poetry, and nothing more...
Posted by: skald
at June 13, 2006 10:25 AM
Still that ever present lack of knowledge about the teachings in the quran that this and many other politicians either want to ignore or not take the time to understand.
Something that Europe also failed to do before it was to late. Hopefully they are not as foolish as the Italians have demonstrated in the Fallaci Blashemy Case. The US has to be concerned about the dangerously creeping leftwing liberal attitudes that are present in Canada because they can have seriously effect our security on the US as well.
Multiculturalism and the PC crowd represents are achillles heal when it comes to are fight against terrorism.
Posted by: Mackie
at June 13, 2006 11:04 AM
Redefining the meaning of terrorism:
http://www.muhammadcartoons.net/coppermine/
http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?q=hamas&FORM=QBIR3
http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?q=abu+hamza&FORM=QBIR
http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?q=mosque&FORM=QBIR
http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?q=mecca&FORM=QBIR
http://search.msn.com/images/results.aspx?FORM=IRRE&q=koran
at June 13, 2006 11:52 AM
You guys have completely misread the situation. What Vic Toews is trying to do is a good thing and will help fight terrorism.
Getting rid of the necessity of proving a motive skips out a very difficult step and makes it much easier to charge people under the anti-terrorism act. Ignore the PC mumbo-jumbo in the article, this is what substantially changes. Surely regulars at this site are aware of the difficulty in getting some to under the motive behind terrorism. (Isn't that one of the reasons this site exists?) This difficulty will no longer impede law enforcement in Canada - this is a good thing.
Posted by: Tim
at June 13, 2006 12:13 PM
The problem is rather simple: It all goes back to Marx. After Max, Europe began to slide.
But the current problem is Liberalism's believe that the person is basically good, instrinsically, and that all acts of violence is the effect of a bad upbringing, a life of poverty or a life of being oppressed by the capitalist and Eurocentric dominant cultural group. Thus, liberalism cannot cope with an entire culture devoted to the destruction of all other cultures. And what really irks me, is that these Multiculturalists should be screaming bloody murder to stop the Jihad of Violence and Immigration in order to protect other cultures...
But nope, they aren't, and here is why. The Liberals see Jihadists as kindred spirits... Sickening..
Posted by: skald
at June 13, 2006 12:25 PM
Nice to know the Canadian cops will spend their time staking-out the local lutheran church instead of the mosque headed by a raving imam. All those Christian car-bombers may force me to cancel my trip to Ontario.Christian terrorism is a goddamn epidemic! I can barely take a step outside without seeing a Christian cry "Jesus hates you!" and blow himself up on a busy street. I think the authorities should keep an eye on those shifty Christians. Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop
at June 13, 2006 12:59 PM
"I dare you to find a country more insane than Canada."
Look right under your nose: The Pentagon is building a mosque to show its "respect" for Islam .*
the [United States] Pentagon...is busy erecting a shrine to Islam just five short years after Islamic terrorists destroyed a good chunk of its own building and killed more than 100 of its occupants. Worse, it's consulting on the project with a Wahhabi-educated cleric posing as a moderate.
Last week, military brass -- along with representatives from the terror-tied Council on American-Islamic Relations -- dedicated the first Muslim prayer center for the Marines as a symbol of the military's "religious tolerance" and "respect" for the faith the enemy uses to attack us. Already, plans are in the works to build by 2009 a bigger mosque at the Marine base in Quantico so Muslim service members can have a "proper place" to worship, and one that "honors their religious heritage," officials say...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22845
* -- "respect" that could find wiggle-room justification in Robert Spencer's gingerly refusal to condemn Islam in toto, dental hygiene be DAMNED.
Posted by: Television
at June 13, 2006 1:51 PM
somethingaboutislam, you made my day! It is so true. That should be submitted to the msm.
Posted by: freetoBEfree
at June 13, 2006 2:13 PM
somethingaboutislam
That was a hoot. Just that a decapitated head can't talk, but there should be replacement dhimmi politicians arriving quickly.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at June 13, 2006 2:28 PM
Somethingaboutislam's Dada-esque little skit, in addition to being quite funny, tells us something of the bottomless arrogance and insufferable pomposity of the western ruling elites who facilitate jihad. Namely, they consider themselves to be the final, definitive authority of Islamic teachings and traditions!
It's really an extraordinary thing to listen to the likes of clowns such as Tony Blair and GWB spout off to everyone about the real Islam, and how the teachings of Imams and Mullahs from Mecca to Montreal are distortions and hijackings of a peaceful, tolerant, enlightened religion - whose peaceful, tolerant, enlightened nature bears such remarkable fruit and properity in lands from stretching from Mauritania to Malaysia.
at June 13, 2006 3:03 PM
I think even a Muslim said it on an Arab news channel; "Most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims."
No argument here.
Posted by: amana39
at June 13, 2006 6:36 PM
somethingaboutislam
Wonderful job. It reminded me of this hallucinating episode in MEMRI's "It can't be true" collection:
http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1059
It goes to show that the brave inhabitants of mental Islam have anticipated many absurdist tropes in the Western literary repertoire, though I have to say a 40-year war over the honor of a she-camel has not been matched in literature, as far as I know.
Posted by: ovidius_naso
at June 13, 2006 8:44 PM
I know this post doesnt match the topic but did anyone read Prager today. Nick Berg's dad is running for the Green party and he claims bush is a bigger terrorist thatn the man that killed his son. Wow now that is a hard core pacifist. what a nut.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian
at June 13, 2006 8:46 PM
pissedoffcanadian, yeah, that guy has Stockholm Syndrome by Proxy: He loves the men who murdered his son.
If I was Nick Berg, I'd expect my father to petition George Bush to start sending Islam back to the stone age with nuclear weapons.
Bush a bigger terrorist then al-Zarqawi? Well, Bush is bad, get it stuck in your teeth when you go down on your woman.
Posted by: skald
at June 13, 2006 11:00 PM
stockholm syndrome by proxy i like that one. I agree with what you write. Very frightening how some people think.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian
at June 13, 2006 11:50 PM
Bacon-I Will Miss Thee
I just invested $460,000 to expand my bull hog operation, and the next thing I see is the pseudonym above. Chilling.
MO HOGS MO PIGS MO DOGS MO PRIGS MO FOGS MO FIGS MO FLOGS MO GIGS MO MO
I'm gonna remap my product mix and bust a production move into pot-bellies. My market forecast sez that they'll make great "wet ordnance" when it comes time for the A-10s to bomb Riyadh with orgnanics.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer
at June 14, 2006 12:17 AM
Television, I missed that one. What will the clueless appeasers do next to prove our unflappable tolerance of Islamic depravity? I really think the world has gone insane; how can they grovel to these primitive, bellicose, predatory savages and continue to squander our money on temples of doom here and abroad, not to mention schools, hospitals, and embassies in Islamic hellholes that will ultimately be blown to hell?! I could scream!!!!
What further pain, suffering, and destruction must we suffer at the hands of Islamic savages before they are treated like the deadly scourge that they are?! The more heinous atrocities muslims commit, the more our leaders appease and grovel . I just don't understand the mentality of the people in charge.
at June 14, 2006 1:03 AM
I'm in Toronto and our TTC Chair Howard Moscoe laughed at the people that questioned him about the Al-Qaeda threat made after the madrid bombings, Moscoe opined that the Terrorists couldn't find Toronto on a map.
Now we see they actually lived in Toronto, and that's why i don't use the Subway and haven't for about 2 years.
The streetcar is a lesser target , but one time i did see a Burqa clad passenger rocking in their seat and chanting something , needless to say I got off at the next stop and assumed my walking was really Life-Insurance because it wasn't worth the risk if it was a Jihad pre-suicide cleansing prayer.
Don't be impressed with Miller, he wasted
$35Million of our tax dollars to not build a $25 Million dollar bridge to the Island Airport,now he's spending over $200 Million a year on the homeless to shelter them at night in the winter and yet the sports Dome that's empty at night just sold for $25 Million and that's the same Stadium that tripled in costs for the tax payers to $600Million only to be sold for $120 Million and now $25 mill.
This Harvard wizKid must have a special calculator because every time I do the numbers I save $200 Million a year for a 25million dollar one time payment of a stadium, and save $10 million by actually building the bridge for $25 million rather than the $35 mill to not build it.
Mayor Miller also ordered the Police Chief to punish Officers that attended a rally in Uniform as a show of support for a fellow Cop, but during or gay parade which the Police Chief and Miller ride in ,Miller allow naked men to flaunt their penis in front of little boys on the parade route.
The PC mind set in Toronto is geting people killed because Miller won't even tell the truth about gun crimes,aids,drugs,and anything else that might hurt his up coming Election this fall.
Posted by: ala-sux
at June 14, 2006 1:49 AM
somethingaboutislam that was a great parady, would make a comedy act on any show,too bad they dont have the balls for it.
you know the liberals cant be that stupid, but your cartoon says it all!
at June 14, 2006 6:26 AM
somethingaboutislam:
I will think about your post every time Jack Layton, Joe Cromartin, David Miller, Olivia Chow and their ilk start flapping their jaws.
Many gold stars for you today.
As for Michael Berg, he sure ain't no Judeah Pearl and I expect that the voters will see that too. His son's memory deserves better than being used as a political platform for a fascist-by-default, for there is nothing "anti-war" or "pacifist" about someone who thinks that war isn't the answer when it comes to confronting totalitarian aggression, but if you can claim victim status, anything goes.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at June 14, 2006 8:59 AM
"OTTAWA — The federal government is considering changes to the Anti-Terrorism Act to make it clear police and security agents do not engage in racial or religious profiling."
So does this mean that when a terrorist atrocity takes place in Canada and an Islamic group claims responsibility, there will be a mass round up of 80-year-old white Christian grannies whilst 20-year-old Muslim Arabs get left well alone?
at June 14, 2006 5:57 PM
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