I hear they also wanted Mama Heffalump to wear a burka.

http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/heffalump/main.html

Posted by: scaramouoche at June 17, 2006 2:28 PM

And they want to join the EU! Haha!...

I have this awful feeling that in 10 years piglet will be banned from most of Europe.

Unless we take up arms, or if we are prepare to show we will do Europe will fall, and then the US will also tumble into the hell on earth that is Turkey at this moment in time.

Posted by: IceDragon at June 17, 2006 2:49 PM

This is the kind of sh*t that exposes islam's hypocracy. Why this type of type of news is not "broadcast" I fully understand. But without broadcast of such inanity the truth is never let loose. And the truth, inane or unbelievable as it may be, shall set you free.

Posted by: Rick at June 17, 2006 2:53 PM

I don't know why the Turkish people want to join Europe?

It might be better if Turkey formed a Union with - A moderate Iraq! A forward thinking Jordan! A positive Egypt! How about a rebuilt Lebanon?

They are all Islamic!

They will understand the suppression of women and the intricacies of the Islamic way of life!

The things that Europe for the most part - doesn't want to be bothered with!

Posted by: Pass It On at June 17, 2006 2:55 PM

What is needed is this, a JihadWatch news channel or barring that a JihadWatch show on some station like Fox NEWS

Posted by: skald at June 17, 2006 3:23 PM

On Reform in Islam, Eeyore said:

"If you don't like thistles, don't bend a perfectly good one."

In response to Islam he said:

"Don't Bustle me. Don't now-then me."

and afterwards:

"They haven't got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake, and they don't Think."

Later he reflected further on Islam and he said:

"... empty honey pot and a broken balloon."

Posted by: jsla at June 17, 2006 3:28 PM

Fear of pigs.How pathetic. What's next? Miss Piggy? I'm just going to have a pork chop and dedicate it to your friend and mine MoHAMmed. Pork be Upon Him
I hear some Jewish settlers in the West Bank use guard pigs instead of dogs. It's true!

Posted by: johndoe at June 17, 2006 4:26 PM

A good way to keep Mohammedans away from our kids - give them all Winnie the Pooh memorabilia, particularly Piglet. That should keep them at a distance.

But Turkey is behind. Didn't Piglet get banned 2 years ago in some British institution, due to some Bangladeshi complaints? Turkey is playing catch-up.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 17, 2006 5:48 PM

Have a hog roast upwind of a mosque, works every time!

Posted by: IceDragon at June 17, 2006 6:14 PM

Islamic 'pigaphobia' is so intense it makes the pig almost perversely 'sacred'. Taboo = holy in the end!

It is the same as the prohibitions against images of Mohammed out of fear of 'idolizing' him. They end up making Mohammed into a divine abstraction beyond what any image could.

Orthodox Jews have strict a prohibiton on eating pork but not such a 'horror' of the animal itself. As a matter of fact, orthodox Jewish peddlers in Eastern Europe often bought and traded for pig bristles from the peasants - they were used to make brushes.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at June 17, 2006 6:15 PM

I bought a piggy bank yesterday. The reason why I did is because I'm scared that one day they will be banned by dhimmis wanting to appease muslims. Buy your piggybank while you still can!

Posted by: Voltaire at June 17, 2006 6:57 PM

Seriously thinking of having a pig for a guard instead of a dog. Maybe Lord Emsworth was not loopy after all. ;)

Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 17, 2006 9:19 PM

you may recall the (somewhat related) cartoon that appears here:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004436.htm

Posted by: StillBreathing at June 17, 2006 9:52 PM

If I understand it correctly, Hugh has suggested in the past one of the strategies of the secular Turks is to go long and strong for EU admission--since then the Turkish 'Muslim' problem will be EU's to deal with. Such a strategy seems to have been used by the Iraqi secular moderates(the PhD crowd who moved to the West at the age of 5), the royalist crowd in Iran, and probable suspects in Lebanon as well.

It is a good strategy from the point of view of these secular Muslims who are probably a. scared, b. want the US to deal witht he extremists. But it is not a good strategy from the West's interest.

We need a societal iron curtain--like with the cold war--but it isn't easy. How to divide, say India? How many Muslims there? Or Israel--a sizable minority within Israel are Muslims. Hugh you site the 1945-6 expelling of Germans as one example. I agree, but how can this be implemented throughout the West. At best, the US will one day see the light, but for France, it might be too late, or the socialists will stop such a move, claiming racism.

Another approach(actually part of the same approach)would be to stop all Muslim's from visiting, educating themselves or access to our medical institutions, eliminating Muslim Immigration--or if that is deemed too draconian--put a hiatus on it for 20 years--then 'restudy' the problem=)

I think another key aspect is to stop this nonsense of Saudi's funding anybody in the US. Stop it. Pass a law. Throw the bums into jail who violate it. This goes for all Muslim countries. This would lock up half of the establishment in Washington--another good thing.

I like the idea of a house of Islam and a house of the non-Muslim, but it seems like a difficult, complicated goal to achieve.

Posted by: biorabbi at June 17, 2006 10:24 PM

Islamic 'pigaphobia' is so intense it makes the pig almost perversely 'sacred'. Taboo = holy in the end!

It is the same as the prohibitions against images of Mohammed out of fear of 'idolizing' him. They end up making Mohammed into a divine abstraction beyond what any image could.

Orthodox Jews have strict a prohibiton on eating pork but not such a 'horror' of the animal itself. As a matter of fact, orthodox Jewish peddlers in Eastern Europe often bought and traded for pig bristles from the peasants - they were used to make brushes.
Posted by: poetcomic1

More truth in that statement than you realize.

The Muslims aped the Jews in many ways, (haram/halal =kasheruth..kosher), also circumcision, and it doesn't stop there, but with a nod to the sensitivities of my Jewish brethern, this whole thing about swine started out in the town then known as Uras Salem, so named for the God of war (Uras) whose name there was Salem, but was also known as Beth Ninip.

Uru was a disease demon and god of the pestilence before he became a god of war, and Salem or Shalem, (Salam) has been identified with Set, Israel, Saturn, Adar, Dionysos, etc.

To Ninip the swine was sacred and therefore, tabue to his worshippers.Ninip, like Dionysos was a lord fo the underowrld and of the spirtis of the earth, before he became a sun god, and the rock Sakhara (Sakhra was the mother of the sun god) with the savern of well of spirites beneath it, is to the Jews the most sacred part of Jerusalem. Here they say is the House of the Lord, here they say was the Holy of Holies of the Temple suppose to have been built and here the pestilence was stayed.

P{iges entered into the rites and myths of Adonis (means The lord, e.g. Adonnay..the Lord), Attis, Tammuz, Set., Semele, Demeter, Rimmon, Dionysos, etc. as well as of Ninip, and were often case into caverns as a sacrifice. In the cavern at Gezer which is not far from Jerusalem, many pig bones have been found.

The pig and the swine were forbidden to the Jews not because they were unclean but because they were sacred to Beth Ninip (Uras Salem), and were eaten sacramentally (Leviticus 66-17).

That which the Jews call the Mount or Shakhra is called by the Muslims Haram al Sharif (Haram supposedly meaning forbidden), but as poetcomic so aptly noted in reality it means sacred.

The basis of that which is forbidden is sacredotal.

The swine was sacred, those forbidden to the followers of Beth Ninip (Uras/Salem), and subsequently to the Israelites.

And please don't get upset with me because I am not politically correct. My lack of political correctness is extended to all religions, identities, races, ethnicties, etc.

Posted by: Nariz at June 17, 2006 10:50 PM

Nariz-- here's a bit of explanation from Wikipedia on haram vs. haraam:

Note: The Arabic language has two related but separate words, حرم ħaram (without long vowel) and حرام ħarām (with long vowel). Both of these words can mean "forbidden" and/or "sacred" in a general way, but each has also developed some specialized meanings. Yet a third related word حريم ħarīm most directly corresponds to English "harem".

...

For the technical Islamic legal meaning of ħarām with a long vowel (meaning something which is forbidden by Islam, such as eating pork), see "haraam".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haram

Posted by: Shinoliite at June 17, 2006 11:07 PM

Regarding guard-pigs:

Why not a Labrador Retriever instead?

Ahadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 9, Number 493:Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, "You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs.

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 450:
Narrated Salim's father:
Once Gabriel promised the Prophet (that he would visit him, but Gabriel did not come) and later on he said, "We, angels, do not enter a house which contains a picture or a dog."

Ahadith Sahih Muslim Book 004, Number 1032:
I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at June 18, 2006 12:29 AM

Nariz-

A deep Golden Bow to you. (Or is that "Bough"?) ; )

St. Dave-

Mohammad sounds more and more like the oleaginous character Newman in the show "Seinfeld". (Maybe the "prophet" was a medieval mail-carrier in Mecca before Gibreel started with the special deliveries? What else would explain this irrational fear of mere pooches?)

As my own [co-incidentally] black dogs say of The Mahound:

"Looks like a woodchuck to us. Get 'im!"

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 18, 2006 12:51 AM

A hilaric interview about some other grievances of muslims:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4yR7rSlxk

Posted by: miep at June 18, 2006 3:41 AM

Seriously thinking of having a pig for a guard instead of a dog. Maybe Lord Emsworth was not loopy after all. ;)

Posted by: arjun.sevak

If your do get a pig get a "Tamworth red" they are a great friendly pig that makes a lot of noise. Mad King George III of England breed them on his royal farm in windsor, they also taste nice. and remember what Winston Churchill said
(I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.)

Posted by: Holger Dansker at June 18, 2006 3:45 AM

Audio commentary.

Posted by: Shy Guy at June 18, 2006 6:21 AM

Pure speculation, ever-so-slightly un-PC, but within certain religions, what is the most potent sacrificial offering? What other animal is reputed to taste most like pork? What creature is forbidden to be sacrificed under the Abrahamic covenant?

Given Nariz's explanation, it's noteworthy that Moslems hold swine to be perversely sacred, and yet al-lah demands the blood of infidels. If pigs replaced human offerings as a distinction between Hanifist and proto-Judaic practices, then Islam is the polar opposite of an Abrahamic faith.

A Moslem once explained to me - straight faced - that pigs are forbidden not because of their personal hygiene, diet or sacrificial status, but because ...it's a "genetic" thing. Pigs have low moral values. They commit incest, and so eating them reduces one's own moral fibre. Reminded me of the hadith on illegal monkey sex.

Posted by: Animus at June 18, 2006 7:36 AM

This will offend Muslims, but I had treated my older brother for both a belated birthday and Father's Day celibration ( USA ) to a home brunch of cheese egg omlet, roasted garlic bread, and home cooked BACON. Offended enough?

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at June 18, 2006 1:43 PM