Someone is being a bit disingenuous.

The aim of Islam is to expand.

Those Mohammedans who move into the "Land of War" from "Muslim" countries have done it in order to subject the infidels to Islam. One way or another.

So, while this isn't exactly "colonizing", it is conquest.

Slowly, like a python engulfing a pig.

It attacks the head, first.

The limbs will then go.

And what a tail will be left to tell.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 18, 2006 4:48 PM

Just last week the State run propaganda wing of Canada , the CBC, appeased the Islamists by filling a audience with pro-Hijab and Wahabbi friendly Clerics .

One of the Muslim speakers was a host of a Islamic TV show about the Quran, and after hearing him for a couple of years asserting the Quran as pure and revelant , he excused away the actions of the Toronto 17 Jihadists being held on terrorism by now using the "Out of context" defense.
He stood there and claimed the Quran reported about events within that climate of war and growth of islam in non-Muslim Countries, we were then told that a large portion of the Quran can't be projected onto current situation where Muslims are being oppressed and attacked.

So now the damage-control mode has Muslims claiming all the violent verses and Jihad battles don't apply to this century , except there is enough proof in the Media archives where Imams and Muslim leaders warn of Jihad by Muslim youth in Canada because of the Terrorizing of their people by the RCMP and CSIS which Dr.Elmasry said
at a Senate Committee as a outright threat.
George Galloway was supported by Elmasry during his Canadian tour and Galloway fired up the crowd by bashing the USA and telling Muslims that Canada was at war with Islam and occupying Muslim land as invaders.

Ironically the denial of any Militant islamists in Canada was proven a lie when Ali-Hiri
was appearing in Toronto and she had to change her venue twice because of bomb threats and death threats , Tariq on the other hand spoke at the UofT and told Muslim youth to use Western rules to spread islam and make it adapt to Muslim standards to avoid giving up your identity.
When 19 illegals were deported from Canada it was CAIR that defended them because they were Muslims, and Sheema Khan had the nerve to testify
that the men questioned about their flying lesson over a Nuclear Plant and caught near the water intake ducts were doing what lots of people do and aren't arrested or deported.
Racial profiling was the excuse Khan used and not the fact that all 19 had either forged ID and passports or expired Visas as students.

Posted by: ala-sux at June 18, 2006 5:55 PM

Not that I am a big fan of PC nomenclature, but Ms. Ali would be a courageous "spokeswoman" of anti-jihad resistance, not a spokesman, right?

Or is there something else about her past that she neglected to tell the immigrations officers when applying for asylum?

Posted by: sologue at June 18, 2006 6:39 PM

"it was wrong to say that Europe had a Judaeo-Christian past.

Islam is a European religion."

The Muslims were always seen as intruders from the south, by the rest of Europe and proved so out of place that they were militarily ejected from Europe twice: in Spain, and also from the Balkans. Their customs were seen as alien and in many ways rather brutal (raping Italian nuns on church alters is hardly the sign of a civilised tolerance) and the Turks who were seen as preserving mediaeval habits of barbarity into the nineteenth century.

Posted by: wallyUK at June 18, 2006 8:41 PM

"Mr Ramadan said it was wrong...to say that Europe had a Judaeo-Christian past."

Someone needs to remind Ramadan that around 800 AD much of Western (Iberia excepted) and Central Europe came under the rule of Charlemagne (with Rome's approval) as the "Holy Roman Empire."

Posted by: 3812Michelle at June 18, 2006 9:56 PM

"islam is a European religion"

One only has to read that sentence and be certain that the speaker belongs to an asylum. The permanent asylum that islam has for its followers.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 19, 2006 12:01 AM

Christianity and Judiasm, by this logic, are "Arabian religions", since both were in that region centuries before Mohammad ever breeched.

(Maybe his parents abandoned him in terror of what they suspected he would become?)

The skeleton in Islam's closet.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 19, 2006 12:38 AM

Islam is a European Religion? Only if Arabia is defined as European, but wait there is more...
"everyone born since Muhammad is born naturally Muslim"..ergo Islam is European as Europeans are Islam (except for the hard headed kufr)".

Islamic logic is illogic and like Islamic science, an oxymoron.

BTW, googled Hirsi Ali and Tariq Ramadan and found two pieces in news, the FT article and this one from the Guardian

Read down near the bottom

Football brings out the worst in even the most cerebral of men. This, at least, must be Ayaan Hirsi Ali's verdict after the snub she experienced last Thursday at the hands of David Goodhart, editor of Prospect magazine. Ali, the famous Somali feminist and anti-Muslim polemicist, was in Sweden to speak at the annual Engelsberg seminar, a prestigious gathering which, in past years, has included Harold Bloom, Orhan Pamuk and David Frum.

Ali, scheduled to debate with Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan, had been placed next to Goodhart at dinner. But he explained he couldn't miss the match between England and Trinidad and Tobago, broadcast during dinner. 'B-b-b-but you're sitting next to the most important woman in Europe!' Edward Lucas, chairman of the event (and my husband) spluttered. Goodhart bleated an apology and fled. Roger Scruton saved the day: 'I for one prefer you to a football,' he reassured Ali as he sat beside her.

Posted by: Nariz at June 19, 2006 1:13 AM