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A new essay by the notable European writer Fjordman:
Do gang rapes boost GDP? Was that an offensive question, you say? Well, according to Sweden's finance minister Pär Nuder, more immigrants should be allowed into Sweden in order to safeguard the welfare system. However, in reality estimates indicate that immigration costs Sweden at least 40 to 50 billion Swedish kroner every year, probably several hundred billions, and has greatly contributed to bringing the Swedish welfare state to the brink of bankruptcy. An estimated cost of immigration of 225 billion Swedish kroner in 2004, which is not unlikely, would equal 17.5% of Sweden's tax income that year, a heavy burden in a country which already has some of the highest levels of taxation in the world.At the same time, the number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common today as they were a generation ago. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in one court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents. Swedish politicians want to continue Muslim immigration because it boosts the economy, yet the evidence so far indicates that it mainly boosts the number of gang rapes. Meanwhile, research shows that fear of honor killings is a very real issue for many immigrant girls in Sweden. 100.000 young Swedish girls live as virtual prisoners of their own families.
An ever growing group of non-western immigrants in Norway is dependent on welfare. This was the conclusion of a study by Tyra Ekhaugen of the Frisch Centre for Economic Research and the University of Oslo. Ekhaugen's research contradicted the often heard assertion that Norway's labor market depends increasingly on immigrants. The study indicated quite the reverse. If the present evolution continues, immigration will increase the pressure on the welfare state rather than relieving it because many immigrants do not join the tax-paying part of the population. "Non-Western immigrants" in Norway are recipients of social security benefits ten times as frequently as native Norwegians. If we remember that "non-Western immigrants" include Chinese, Indians and other non-Muslims who are known for (and statistically proven to be) hard working, this speaks volumes of the heavy burden Muslims constitute on the welfare state.
Journalist Halvor Tjønn from newspaper Aftenposten, one of the few genuinely critical journalists in the country, in June 2006 cited a report from NHO, the Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise. NHO stated that the current immigration policies were a serious threat to the country's economy. Norway is the planet's third largest exporter of oil, next to Saudi Arabia and Russia. Yet according to NHO, there is a risk that much of the profit Norway earns from oil could be spent on paying welfare for a rapidly growing immigrant population. The most profitable immigration would be high-skilled workers who stay for period of limited duration, but at the same time not too brief. A Danish think tank has estimated that the net cost of immigration was up to 50 billion kroner every year, and those were cautious estimates. Denmark could thus save huge sums by stopping immigration from less developed countries. A study found that every other immigrant from the Third World -- especially from Muslim countries -- lacked the qualifications for even the most menial jobs on the organized Danish labor market.
Professor Kjetil Storesletten at the University of Oslo said that the net contribution of immigrants to the economy was probably negative in
Norway, too. "Admitting immigrants with low levels of education leads nowhere. We cannot continue the immigration policies we have followed until now," said Storesletten. In Norway, social benefits and salaries for low-skilled workers are among the highest in the world. At the same time, the salaries for highly skilled workers are comparatively lower and the taxes are high. This compressed salary structure is the result of decades of Socialist policies in Scandinavia. It leads to attracting people with lower skills and little education, but also makes the countries less attractive for researchers and scientists. Still, the agency that handles immigration to Norway, UDI, in 2005 thought that the country must make it more attractive for both skilled and unskilled workers to move to Norway. "We need more immigrants," claimed UDI chief Trygve Nordby. "Too few dare to say that we have a large need for non-professional workers as well," he said. UDI, in turn, should be able to have more flexibility in deciding cases, and process cases more quickly and efficiently. As it turned out later, the bureaucrats of UDI were in fact so "flexible" that they had been running their own, private immigration policies, and that the agency's liberal interpretation of asylum rules had "stretched the boundaries" of the law. UDI violated both the law and political directives when it granted residency permits to nearly 200 Iraqi Kurds in the fall of 2005. A commission that probed the controversial permits blasted the former head of UDI, Trygve Nordby, and his successor resigned. More than half of the social security benefits in the city of Oslo are spent of non-Western immigrants, a portion that has grown tremendously over the years. City council leader Erling Lae warns against prejudice and states that without immigrants, there would be "complete chaos" in Oslo. Meanwhile, Norwegian newspapers are worried that online debates are "flooded with racist comments" about Muslims. One of the racist comments they mentioned was this one: "A large number of Muslims out of their own, free will choose to live in parallel societies where they speak their mother tongue, watch foreign TV, despise the society they have moved to and pick spouses from their original homelands. The only contact they have with the natives is in the social security office.""The debate is often colored by ignorance. It is not a human right to be heard at any given time. It requires a certain minimum of social intelligence to be allowed to participate in the public debate," says Esten O. Sæther, online editor of the Leftist, pro-Multicultural newspaper Dagbladet. Sæther warns that the newspapers may have to impose stricter censorship on their online discussion forums and the comments to online articles. However, Dagbladet seems to have little understanding of why so many people are fed up with Muslims and their demands. Neither have they admitted that they were wrong in their one-sided praise of the positive effects of Muslim immigration for decades, nor apologized for demonizing the right-wing Progress Party and its leader Carl I. Hagen throughout the 90s for their "racism" for questioning the real costs of this immigration.
On the contrary, although information about the costs of Muslim immigration has been available for several years, this was a non-issue
in Norwegian media prior to the national elections in 2005. Instead, they were focusing on "poverty" in Norway and the need for increased welfare spending. This in a country that is among the wealthiest in the world and which provides its citizens with the highest social security benefits in Europe. Norway's media coverage of the national elections revealed a desire for a Leftist government, said Election expert Aarebrot, a professor at the Institute for Comparative Politics at the University of Bergen. He argued that, with few exceptions, most of Norway's media leans to the left politically. "Most newspapers are what I would call politically correct. By politically correct in Norway today I mean slightly radical, urban and liberal," Aarebrot said. Nearly 70 percent of journalists vote Labor (Ap), Socialist Left (SV) or Red Electoral Alliance (RV) according to a poll, and this is reflected in the press, Aarebrot said.Oslo will have a non-Western majority in a few decades, if the current trends continue. There are now several researchers who predict that in Norway, Sweden and Denmark, the native population and their descendants will become a minority in their own country within this century. The only question is when. Since the Islamic Jihad usually enters a much more aggressive and physical phase once the Muslim population reaches 10 – 20% of the total in any given area, this does not bode well for the future of the urban regions in Scandinavia. Will they turn out different from similar regions in Thailand, the Philippines or Nigeria?
Admittedly, part of the problem lies with the Western European welfare state system itself and cannot be blamed on the immigrants alone. Iranian Nima Sanandaji tells of his family's meeting with the Swedish system: "In Sweden my family encountered a political system that seemed very strange. The interpreter told us that Sweden is a country where the government will put a check into your mailbox each month if you don't work. She explained that there was no reason to get a job." "Although my mother got several jobs, we concluded that this really didn't improve our family's economy. During the sixteen years we have been in Sweden, my mother has in total worked less than one year."
However, part of the problem is also due to the mentality of some of the Muslims who move there, yet display no loyalty to their new countries. Immigrant men who divorce their wives according to secular law, but stay married to them according to sharia, Islamic law, represent an increasing problem in the city of Odense, Denmark, according to Erik Simonsen, deputy major in charge of administration. The result is a large number of "single" women who receive welfare support. From other countries, it is known that some Muslim men to do this trick with several women at the same time. Some observers blamed the Muslim riots in France in 2005, accurately described by writer Mark Steyn as the "first welfare funded Jihad in history," on polygamy practiced by Muslim men, paid for by French taxpayers. But also immigrants who are financially independent are cheating, says Simonsen. "80 percent of the immigrant economy in Odense is a black market economy. That's a lot, and it cannot be tolerated, because the law is equal for all."
As one Muslim in Norway stated: "I worked in a Pakistani shop, but all of the work there is 'unofficial.' Neither the boss nor I pay taxes to Norwegian authorities. In addition to this, I receive 100% disability benefits and welfare. I have to be cunning to make as much money as possible, since this is my only objective with being in Norway." Undoubtedly, many Muslims view welfare money from the infidels as Jizya, the poll-tax non-Muslims according to the Koran are supposed to pay to Muslims as tribute and a sign of their inferior status and submission to Islamic rule. In Britain, one member of an Islamic group warned an undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system.
One of the reasons for the low participation in the work force among Muslims is a very high drop out rate from schools, especially for boys. Although Muslims themselves blame this on "poor integration efforts" and "marginalization," some of them are actively obstructing their kids' education, lest they become too much like the infidels. Thousands of Muslim children with Scandinavian citizenship are sent to Koran schools in Pakistan and other countries, to prevent them from becoming "too Westernized." When this practice was documented and criticized by the Norwegian organization Human Rights Service, Pakistanis in Norway had the galls to ask for a school for their children in Pakistan, funded by Norwegian taxpayers. They will probably get it.According to the Copenhagen Post, in Denmark when the country's schools open their doors again after the summer holidays, not every student is there to enter. Some schools report one in every five students missing from the schoolrooms. Daily newspaper Berlingske Tidende reported that some children had not returned from vacation in their homelands with their parents. 'When students are kept away from school start, it's a big problem for their integration and can affect the children's educational level,' said Integration Minister Rikke Hvilshøj. She said a committee would discuss methods to get parents to send their children to school from day one. 'These are children who have problems beforehand following what's going on at school,' Hvilshøj said. 'Not being there when the school year starts won't make it any easier. We need to make parents understand that if their children are to get a good chance in Denmark, they need to make sure that they are there when school starts.' Author and journalist Rushy Rahsid said she had often gone on long vacations to Pakistan with her parents as a child. 'Families go on such long trips to give their children a healthy dose of religion, culture, traditions, and family,' she said. 'If you buy a very expensive ticket, you want to take full advantage of the trip and meet the entire family.'
Not that the problems always disappear when they actually attend school, either. Going to school is no child's game for many children in Copenhagen, where beatings, kicks, robberies, and threats have everyday occurrences. The perpetrators are normally their own age. Violence and threats pose such a big problem in high schools in Malmö, Sweden, that the local school board wants to install surveillance cameras and security guards in the buildings. The city's education director Matz Nilsson said unruly and aggressive students had become a more common sight in the high schools of Malmö, the home of some of Scandinavia's biggest and roughest slums.
In the spring of 2006, police were deployed at a Berlin school after teachers complained that they could not cope with their students' aggression and disrespect. A teacher who recently left the school told the Tagesspiegel newspaper that ethnic Arab pupils were bullying ethnic Turks, Germans and other nationalities. "School for them," said Petra Eggebrecht, former director of the Rütli school, "is simply a place to fight for peer recognition, where young criminals become idols." Young people are also easy targets for Islamist organisations. Outside the Rütli school, the children greeted visitors in Arabic.
When reporters went to school they were pelted with paving stones by masked youths from the schoolyard as the district's mayor stood helplessly at the entrance of the building. An increasing problem in German schools is that Arab male students often refuse to respect the authority of women teachers. Students at the Ruetli Hauptschule were not shy about expressing their views to reporters. "The German (students) brown nose us, pay for things for us and stuff like that, so that we don't smash in their faces." But there are also conflicts between Arab and Turkish students, mirrored in battles between the city's foreign-dominated youth gangs. Integration of foreign youths in Berlin is often poor. Even second and third generation children frequently do not speak fluent German and many fail to complete school - all of which leads to a high jobless rate among immigrant youths. White German families are moving out of districts like Neukoelln.
Muslim immigration has led to a spike in organized and violent crime, too. As early as 2002, Lars Hedegaard together with Dr. Daniel Pipes wrote about how Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constituted less than 5 percent of the population but consumed upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending. What's worse, however, is that Muslims were only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but made up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims were non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions were found in other crimes.
In 2005, it was reported that 82 percent of crimes in Copenhagen were committed by immigrants or descendants of immigrants, and the police pressed charges against second-generation immigrants five times as frequently per capita as against ethnic Danes. Doormen working in the Danish capital are now often armed with guns or clubs so as to be able to defend themselves against violent immigrant gangs. There is more violence than ever before and some immigrant gangs have even been known to seek out doormen at their private homes. Immigrant criminal gangs are much more active than previously believed, and their brutality has them surpassing biker crime gangs like the Hell's Angels or Bandidos, the State Police said. A Norwegian researcher warned that ethnic gangs could give Norway the kind of immigrant-related organized crime that had previously been unknown in Scandinavia. Arne Johannessen from the Norwegian Police Organization warned in 2003 that the cost of crime may have been doubled during the previous decade, in part due to immigration.
In Sweden, there has been a steep rise in all kinds of crime and violence at the same time as an unprecedented amount of immigration to the country. Of course, Swedish politicians would never dream of connecting the two. However, in one of those rare cases where a Swedish newspaper has actually told the truth, Aftonbladet revealed that 9 out of the 10 most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden were Muslims, a trend known from other European countries such as France, where Muslims make up 10% of the general population, but maybe 70% of the prison population. The number of people under the age of 18 who are serving sentences in juvenile detention centres in Sweden has risen sharply over the last five years.
Not that Western European prisons will scare immigrant children too much. The relaxed regime at a prison housing some of Holland's most dangerous criminals has caused controversy. Pictures of tattooed prisoners enjoying a "social evening" and beer embarrassed the authorities which are sensitive to claims abroad that they are soft on crime. One inmate at Esserheem serving 14 years for murder said: "We have a party every weekend in our own prison bar. We can enjoy wonderful snacks, ice cream, beers, play cards or billiards and listen to music. If the weather is warm we can play tennis." Another prisoner spoke of "perfect" fresh food and said: "We can buy everything in the prison shop including sushi and sake." In the Netherlands, the economic argument deployed by both leftwing Multiculturalists and free-market conservatives - that immigration revives aging populations, provides new labor resources, and generates entrepreneurial activity – "simply does not apply." There has been no overall economic benefit to population change since unskilled guest workers were invited to the Netherlands in the early 1970s. According to Paul Scheffer, a leading critic of Multiculturalism and professor of urban sociology at Amsterdam University, up to 60% of first-generation Turkish and Moroccan populations are unemployed.
Andrew Bostom, editor of The Legacy of Jihad, quotes the observations made by Dr. Muqtedar Khan, a much-ballyhooed Muslim moderate from the U.S., after a trip to Belgium. Even Khan admitted the largesse of Belgium's welfare state towards its Muslims: "…the welfare check was normally 70 percent to 80 percent of the salary. For those [Muslims] who were married with children, welfare provided comfortable living and with low property values, even those on welfare could actually own homes." American expatriate writer Bruce Bawer, living in Norway, has documented in his book While Europe Slept how Oslo imams preach brazenly that Muslims should expect these welfare benefits—and feel justified in supplementing them by stealing from stores—as a form of jizya extracted from their infidel "host" societies. As Bostom points, out, "such attitudes, whatever their origins, raise this larger basic question: why does the West continue to validate the raw, imbalanced bigotry that denies non-Muslims any access to Mecca and Medina—upon pain of imprisonment, torture, and death—while Muslims demand and are granted the ability to settle, with generous accommodations, within Europe or America?"
Indeed, some of the Muslims are actively involved in supporting Jihad activities, verbally or physically. Mullah Krekar is convicted of terrorism in Jordan, he has been suspected of links to the Madrid terrorists, and the CIA claims he has been ordering bombings in Iraq. He has lived off Norwegian welfare money in Oslo for years, and reputedly gets a lot of free taxi rides from Muslim cab drivers who think he's a great guy. Norway's most controversial refugee has lodged a threat against the country that has hosted him and his family for the past 14 years. Mullah Krekar continues to fight deportation back to Iraq, and calls any such order "an offense" that should be punished. "I defend my rights in their court just like Western people defend their rights. I am patient like they are patient. But if my patience runs out, I will react like Orientals do." Asked how "Orientals" react, Krekar said: "I don't want to comment on that." Krekar has also spoken positively about terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and the recently killed Iraqi al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
In Britain, the police have been investigating allegations that the four suspected London bombers from July 2005 collected more than £500,000 in benefits payments. The suspects are supposed to have used multiple aliases and addresses. One, Mr Ibrahim, is said to have had six aliases. Some are also shown to have claimed several nationalities, ages and national insurance numbers while in Britain. Investigators believe that bogus names were used to make some benefit claims. Two are also alleged to have obtained asylum using bogus passports and false names and nationalities. Mr Ibrahim, alleged to be the Hackney bus bomber, is believed to have used two dates of birth, six aliases, two national insurance numbers and two addresses. Mr Osman apparently went under five names, variously claimed that he was Eritrean or Somali, and used four addresses in southwest London. Mr Omar, 24, who is linked with the attack on a Tube train near Warren
Street, had five aliases.The London Times quoted a report that expressed fears that Britain was "sleepwalking its way to apartheid" due to increased ethnic segregation. The paper, which took into account the background of the four July 7 suicide bombers who attacked London, pointed to social and economic deprivation as key drivers in their conversion to terrorism, ignoring the numerous calls for violent Jihad in the Koran and the hadith. It found that the Muslim community was the most "disadvantaged" faith group in the country, with lower educational attainment and higher unemployment. The document found that the unemployment rate among Britain's 1.6m Muslims was more than three times that of the general population and was the highest of all faith groups. About half of all Muslims were economically inactive (52%). That was higher than any other religious group.
DP111, an articulate British commentator at such websites as Jihad Watch, Little Green Footballs and Fjordman blog, points out that as Muslim families are very large, a single wage earner will find it hard to support all. They will need to supplement this by getting considerable benefits from the state. Thus at a minimum, "some 80% of the Muslim population" subsists on welfare benefits: "A considerable amount of this money to Muslims from the British taxpayer, finds its way to finance the Jihad. The same scenario must hold in all European states that have a considerable Muslim population." "We are in the ridiculous position of sheltering and feeding a population that is hell bent on destroying us. Islam's people, from the very outset, were nothing but a collective to gain plunder and loot at the expense of other people's work. In the past, it was conducted by war, conquest and then pillage. Now it is conducted by immigration (invasion), begging or crime. Meanwhile Muslim nations are given huge loans (aid), which we and they know will never be repaid. Thus, from a purely economic point of view, Islam seems to be a collective of people who live by the ethos of "beg, borrow or steal." So why do we, the capitalist countries, who do not believe in offering anyone a free lunch, subsidise the most lazy yet aggressive bunch of people on God's planet, who are bent on subverting our democratic system? The nub is, how has it come about, that the natural progression of the most advanced civilisation on earth is towards stupidity?"
He also points out that the cost of Muslim immigration is much higher than just welfare. "One really needs to factor the loss of confidence in the markets, loss of new investment because of a fear of flying or the disenchantment with intrusive security. Then there is the increased cost of insurance on all businesses." All this affects the competitivess of business with nations that do not have a significant Islamic presence, such as Japan, Korea and Taiwan. We may be talking of million dollars or more per Muslim individual per year. "And to top it all, we give them huge amounts of aid, welfare benefits on a grand
scale, while we live in fear, and our freedoms compromised."Former Muslim Ali Sina claims that even in the USA, which has a smaller Muslim population and less social security benefits than Western Europe, Muslims are a huge drain on the economy: "Because about 2 million Muslims live in America and among them there are some who are terrorists, Americans are forced to expend hundreds of billions of dollars on homeland security. I have no idea how much is the actual cost. Let us be conservative and say it costs only $200 billion dollars per year. I reality it could be many times more. Does anyone have any idea? With just $200 billion dollars, every Muslim, including their children cost the taxpayers $100,000 dollars per year. This is the real "contribution" of Muslims to America Mr. President. Once you add the cost of the real damage caused in terrorist attacks, such as to planes, buildings, etc. this cost will be much higher. And here we are only talking about monetary cost. Can anyone calculate the cost that the families of the victims of terrorism pay? What is true in America is true in anywhere governments are forced to expend money to increase the security."
Bat Ye'or in her book Eurabia - The Euro-Arab Axis describes how we are in the middle of a total transformation of Europe, which is the result of an intentional policy. In an interview with Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Bat Ye'or fears that Europe will become more and more Islamized until it becomes "a political satellite of the Arab and Muslim world." "The European leaders have decided on an alliance with the Arab world, through which they have committed to accept the Arab and Muslim approach toward the United States and Israel. This is not only with respect to foreign policy, but also on issues engaging European society from within, such as immigration, the integration of the immigrants and the idea that Islam is part of Europe."
Former French PM Charles de Gaulle, disappointed by the loss of the French colonies in Africa and the Middle East, as well as with France's waning influence in the international arena, in the 1960's decided to create a strategic alliance with the Arab and Muslim world to compete with the dominance of the United States and the Soviet Union. This alliance became the position of the European Community (pre-European Union) during the course of the 1970s, when an extensive European-Arab dialogue developed. However, this alliance, in the context of which Europe allowed the immigration of millions of Muslims to its territories and adopted an anti-Israeli and anti-American policy, will ultimately "transform Europe into a continent under the thumb of the Arab and Muslim world."
As Bat Ye'or points out, most of the workings of Eurabia are hidden from the public view, but sometimes we can catch glimpses of it if we know what to look for. Italian Leftist PM Romano Prodi, President of the European Commission, the Politburo of the EUSSR, from 1999 to 2004, wants more cooperation with Arab countries. He talks about a free trade zone with the Arab world, but this implies the four freedoms of the EU, which includes the free movement of people. This is made clear in a document from 2003. This fact, and the implications of it, is virtually never mentioned in European media. During the Sixth Euro-Med Ministerial Conference in Brussels, 2003, it is stated that this initiative offers the EU's neighboring partners "gradual integration into the expanded European internal market and the possibility of ultimately reaching the EU's four fundamental freedoms: free movement of goods, services, capital and people." Ministers were also expected to back the Commission's proposal to set up a Euro-Mediterranean Foundation for the Dialogue of Cultures, a Euro-Mediterranean Parliamentary Assembly and a reinforced European Investment Bank (EIB).
In June 2006, after his Leftist coalition government signalized that they would be much more lenient with Muslim immigration to Italy, Romano Prodi announced that "It's time to look south and relaunch a new policy of cooperation for the Mediterranean." He was thinking of the Euro-Mediterranean partnership, launched in 1994 in Barcelona. Prodi said he had raised the issue with Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. The prime minister then explained that the Barcelona Process – which includes the creation of a free trade zone by 2010 - was no longer sufficient and a new different approach was needed. "The countries on the southern shores of the Mediterranean expect that from us" he added.
Muslim immigration is costing enormous sums and creating havoc across Western Europe, and EU leaders are working to give Muslims easier access to Europe – because Arabs expect this from them. Thank you for pointing this out, Mr. Prodi. And thank you for removing all doubts whether the European Union needs to be dismantled, and its treacherous and corrupt political elites removed from power.
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In America, muslim are very apt to scam either the government or businesses.
In my tax practice, I have prepared numerous tax returns for muslim immigrants who are on disability social security. The are very healthy, I ask them why they are on social security, by far the most common answer is mental problems, I guess being muslim would be a mental problem. When there is six,seven kids in the family also collecting, this adds up.
Another scam is collecting large sums on auto accidents and workman comp. Lately, this aspect is not as prevalent as 10 years ago, I believe business have caught onto this scam, but the government is still handing out social security disabilities to muslim immigrants like it is candy.
Why are I consider this claims to be false, it is the high frequency of claims by muslims compared to a far lower frequency by non muslims.
The reason why a tax return is filed? They file
to receive property tax credit or rent credit along with a heat credit.
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at June 23, 2006 7:20 PM
Ultimately it will cost them their freedom and quite possibly their lives.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069 at June 23, 2006 7:29 PM
Q: What Does Muslim Immigration Cost Europe?
A: Europe
Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 23, 2006 7:39 PM
Why should these Muslims in Scandinavia work when they can be rewarded for not working? Welfare states attract the kinds of people that will mooch off the government. The skilled productive people are not rewarded but instead have their money taken by the government to go to the deadbeats, no wonder they go somewhere else.
Posted by: corli at June 23, 2006 7:42 PM
It will be a messy affair, possibly all of us will lose loved ones, but we are too many! Once the mess gets that far we will forget about PC or human rights. Stop being afraid of these religous whackos, they got no chance.
Posted by: cosmicAvenger at June 23, 2006 7:52 PM
"So why do we, the capitalist countries, who do not believe in offering anyone a free lunch, subsidise the most lazy yet aggressive bunch of people on God's planet, who are bent on subverting our democratic system? The nub is, how has it come about, that the natural progression of the most advanced civilisation on earth is towards stupidity?"
The answer to Fjordman's question is simple. In the wake of WWII and the holocaust, Europe developed a terrible guilt complex. Through slight of hand and mind, necessary because the Jews do not need Europe's pity any more, exchanged the Muslims for the Jews, and third-worlders in general. Of course, if you give a Chinese, Indian, Latino or Christian Arab or African a chance, you have a very good chance of being glad for it. But Islam's ethical system seems a stranger to reason, hard work and critical thought.
Posted by: Quijybo at June 23, 2006 8:18 PM
Bravo, Fjordman, another excellent article about the situation in Scandinavia. If only Sweden had one hundred more champions and patriots such as yourself.
Keep putting out the message and the truth the Swedish people will wake up!
Once they awaken, they should run these dihimmi politicians out of office and into jail.
The images of the raped and savagely beaten girls is heart breaking, the Swedes should fight back.
In my part of America, if someone did this say to my granddaughter, there would be hell to pay!
Posted by: El Cid at June 23, 2006 8:24 PM
"In my tax practice, I have prepared numerous tax returns for muslim immigrants who are on disability social security. The are very healthy, I ask them why they are on social security, by far the most common answer is mental problems, I guess being muslim would be a mental problem."
-- from a posting above
Bring this, possibly anonymously, to the attention of those responsible for awarding SSI status. Perhaps there are those working for the state who are akin to that Muslim employee of the City of Boston who was so busy putting the fix in, in every way, for the Boston Mosque, through his estimates of land value, the final sweetheart deal, and the visit to Saudi Arabia to obtain funding. There may be Muslim employees of the state, or others, out of nothing more sinister than negligence, who are making this kind of fraud easier.
You owe these clients nothing. You owe taxpayers, and yourself, far more. There are ways to alert others to pay sudden unnanounced visits to determine the level of "disablity."
Such fraud requires vigilant reporting by you and many others. Surely you don't need these clients. Surely you want to see that fraud stopped. Surely you want to diminish the presence and perceived power of those who do notwish you, or this country's legal and political and social institutions, well.
Posted by: Hugh at June 23, 2006 8:24 PM
The following formulaic sentence is posted again and again, because one waits to find someone who will attempt to deny the truth of each of its assertions.
That sentence is the following:
"The large-scale presence of Muslims in the Lands of the Infidels, behind those very lines which Muslims themselves are taught to regard as enemy lines, the lines of Dar al-Harb, have created for indigenous Infidels (and for Infidel immigrants as well) conditions of existence that are far more unpleasant and unsettled, expensive, and physically dangerous, for Infidels, than would be the case without that large-scale presence."
Even if you now disagree on what can be done, even if you are in the camp of despairing deniers (that it can get worse), and are dead set on appeasement because you find any other conceivable reaction -- inconceivable, you cannot deny the truth of that statement. Not if you live in France or Italy, in Sweden or Denmark, in England or Germany, in Holland or Belgium, in Spain or Norway. Not if you live anywhere in Western Europe.
Posted by: Hugh at June 23, 2006 8:28 PM
The Scandinavian countries are democracies - they elect the people responsible for the mess that they're in. Is there no concerted political action to throw out those politicians? Is there no impulse to take back their nation? ...We Americans are agitated by our illegal alien problem: imagine the media noise we would hear if we had to put up with what the Europeans go through...(What is wrong with those people?)
But now, come to think of it - maybe we wouldnt complain all that much - our political discourse is so infected with PC that we might end up looking like Sweden.
Uh-oh - I hope not...
at June 23, 2006 9:15 PM
Quote:" I ask them why they are on social security, by far the most common answer is mental problems, I guess being muslim would be a mental problem"
As I mentioned before but unnoticed there is a DELIBERATE cooperation between MUSLIM medical practitioners and fellow muslims re Disability support pensions in western welfare states where perfectly healthy people almost always young or middle aged males are granted such pensions via applications from Muslim medicos. Not all of these are fake, but most are and it is AMAZING just how many of those who are on these pensions are also very mosque active.
This was brought to my attention by a friend who had to do an emergency locum for a Muslim GP. As he had done many such normal ones(as opposed to emergency) before he was finally trusted in this case with the many Muslim patients that he had never been allowed to see before, all of who, were on disability support pensions for "psychiatric" reasons and yet NONE seemed disturbed, none were actually taking their antidepressants or antipsychotics(as proven by the blood analyses) and ALL were under the care of the same Muslim psychiatrist. Paranoid?? No!! Conspiracy to defraud? U betcha!!
Within the medical community in Australia the above problem is recognised but because of 1) PC fears; and 2) our dependence upon poaching medicos from 3rd world countries, no one seems inclined to bring it out into the open, let alone do anything about it. He reported this to Social security...never even received an answer.
But he was never invited back.
If you look at this purely from an Islamic view then they are entitled to these pensions even if well, as it is part of the Jizhaya that we being nonmuslims owe them and between fake compensation schemes and this it is no wonder that so many of the radical Imams do no honest work at all. Check with the same problems in the UK and elsewhere. This is an ORGANISED INTERNATIONAL Muslim scam. No wonder western welfare states creak!!!
One other point also usually ignored here is WHY western governments seem so hell bent upon immigration for economic reasons when the end result is chaos and a welfare avalanche?
Doesn't anyone wish to know why?
at June 23, 2006 11:03 PM
Stupid immigration laws. If a person is going to emigrate to the U.S. (or anywhere, really ), there should be a law that he have some kind of skill and have a job within, say, a month, and go to work. No way should he be allowed our S.S.I. or welfare. Not at least for many many years. If he tries to get on the rolls, back to his country he goes. I don't owe him anything. WE don't owe him anything.
Posted by: freewoman at June 23, 2006 11:15 PM
Getting swedish infidels to pay you welfare-225Billion
Getting infidel English to pay terrorist benefits-£500,000
having infidels sell their soul to appease you-priceless.
for everything else there is jihad.
I know it doesn't quite have the same ring but it will catch on.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at June 23, 2006 11:22 PM
"This was brought to my attention by a friend who had to do an emergency locum for a Muslim GP. As he had done many such normal ones(as opposed to emergency) before he was finally trusted in this case with the many Muslim patients that he had never been allowed to see before, all of who, were on disability support pensions for "psychiatric" reasons and yet NONE seemed disturbed, none were actually taking their antidepressants or antipsychotics(as proven by the blood analyses) and ALL were under the care of the same Muslim psychiatrist. Paranoid?? No!! Conspiracy to defraud? U betcha!!!"
-- from a posting above
Your friend must report this, and must begin to inquire among other doctors. This is theft, and it lowers the benefits available for non-Muslims, in a non-Muslim society, where the taxpayers are almost entirely non-Muslim.
There should be several doctors examining each person who claims "disability" and if Muslims are involved, they should be watched carefully to make sure there is no collusion (certainly no more than one Muslim doctor per examining panel, given the intense indoctrination in the loyalty owed fellow members of the umma and the equally intense indoctrination in the reasonableness of Muslims claiming, by informal means, including what we might regard as fraud, the Jizyah that by right is owed to them from Infidels.
Every case unmasked, every person who now will have to work -- or return to a Muslim country -- will make things better.
Individuals have to do more than observe and recont with horror to others. They have to talk to one another, pool their observations, make recommendations to official bodies. If a large number of people begin to exhibit such an attitude, it will have an effect. And others will hear of what they have done, and emulate them.
Posted by: Hugh at June 23, 2006 11:44 PM
EU = Entirely Unconscious.
What was so wrong with Europe that they had to invite in the Final Solution of Islam to cure their ills?
Were the Scandinavian fjords not sufficiently beautiful without Musims skulking on their banks?
Was Amersterdam not lovely, as it was, with swans skimming its picturesque canals, without packs of morose Musselmen darkening its twisting avenues?
Paris didn't seem a stunning enough jewel of a city minus thousands of muttering Mohammedans sneering and blocking its side streets in prayer?
Copenhagen's boulevards couldn't be adequately appreciated if there weren't Islamic freeloaders soaking up the naive generosity of the Danes?
I don't get why they brought in those who hate them. Hate their culture. Hate their past. And only aim to destroy all that the Europeans, after centuries of Promethean struggle, had finally achieved.
Islam is like an eclipse.
Who invokes darkness?
Posted by: profitsbeard at June 23, 2006 11:45 PM
Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common today as they were a generation ago.
If the Swedes are as intensely committed to Islamic multicultualism as I think they are, they'll solve their kiddie sex problem the same way the Ayatollah did: legalize it.
Make the little kids street legal on their ninth birthday. Dating, maybe that could start at age six. But no monkey business! Hand holding and maybe some making out, but no petting. And absolutely no dating these little blonde haired blue eyed six-year old Swedish first graders without their watchful parents supervising from the next room.
And let's show some etiquette, Ahmed: Trim that beard down before seeing little Enga. Otherwise you could rub her alabaster face all red and stuff.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at June 24, 2006 12:28 AM
Good Morning All.
I interrupt our normal transmission to bring you this update from London.
Regular JW readers might remember this item from January when Islam Expo 2006 was first announced.
In two weeks time this will run and coincide with the 1st anniversary of the London bus and tube bombing in which 52 London travellers died. At best this is in very poor taste, at worse, well worse.
So something small has started which like a tiny acorn into a mighty oak will grow.
The flyer which UK readers are invited to copy, paste and print into handbills for distribution is here.
It should fit twice double sided into an A4 sheet then sliced into two A5 handbills.
And you will see that there are some very illuminating comments already on the blog.
Please keep visiting the sites, and we will keep you posted on events.
at June 24, 2006 2:35 AM
I linked to the wrong original story. We really want the (related) item next door.
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at June 24, 2006 2:59 AM
I have just been banned for two weeks (until 7/7/06 of all dates) from an online forum for 'peddling so-called racism and religious hatred', by daring to post about the evil of Islam, its bloodthirsty history, the texts of the Koran, the 5,200-plus fatal terrorist atrocities carried out by Muslims since 911, the gratitude we should have for the likes of Pelayo, Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski, bringing up battles like Tours, Poitiers, the Siege and Battle of Vienna, and the quotes of folks who knew about Islam like Winston Churchill, John Quincy Adams, John Wesley, Bishop Fulton J Sheen, Hilaire Belloc and Andre Servier to name but a few. Of course, the typical mentality is if you don't like the message, shoot the messenger, and it is highly destructive. Folks don't want to know the truth about Islam in Britain, and with this attitude prevalent, I'm afraid I have less faith in my fellow Brits to stop the spread of Islamic imperialism than anyone else in Europe because of those attitudes, and as Reza said, our descendants will live in an Islamic state one day - and it will all be the fault of stupid PC Islam-dumb folks like those who run that forum, who are too ignorant to realise that Islam is a race not a religion, and stubbornly regard an attack on Islam as an attack on defenceless brown people, and ignore the fact that defenceless non-Muslim brown people like Christian worshippers in Pakistan, those beheaded Buddhist monks in Thailand and those Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia get murdered every day in the name of Islam, as I pointed out so many times on that forum.
at June 24, 2006 5:20 AM
Oops, should have said Islam is a religion and not a race.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at June 24, 2006 5:23 AM
There are plenty of Australians who would like to work for 5 or 10 years in Europe.
We would intergrate, work hard, and contribute to society. Same would go for people from destitute countries like Central and South America.
Why do these immigrants to Europe HAVE to be muslims?
Posted by: Voltaire at June 24, 2006 6:40 AM
Further to Granny W's post above, it's important that this exhibition gets as much bad publicity as possible. If you're in the London area, please print off as many flyers as possible and leave them in cafés, pubs (OK no Muslims there, but sympathetic non-Muslims may be), on buses, tubes etc.
Forget about saving the rain forest for now. Save our civilisation first.
Also, if you're posting on other blogs and the topic of Islam comes up - or even if it doesn't - please post a link to the new anti-IslamExpo site.
It is outrageous that Islam is being whitewashed anyway. To do this on July 7 beggars belief.
Posted by: Interested at June 24, 2006 6:51 AM
Good post, Fjordman. However, the person who said that Taiwan does not have a Muslim presence is mistaken (in the context of European competitiveness). Taiwan has an estimated native Muslim population of ca. 50,000 as well as numbers of guest workers from Indonesia and Malaysia, plus business people from other Muslim countries.
Taiwan has had a Muslim presence since at least the 17th century, when some of the troops used by Zheng Chenggong to drive out the Dutch East India Company were Hui. The descendants of this population, however, have been absorbed, and are usually identified by their offering beef or chicken to the ancestors rather than the customary pork. After the Communist Revolution on the Mainland, some of Chiang's soldiers and other migrants from the Mainland revivified Islam in Taiwan. These have been augmented in recent decades by descendants of Yunnanese Hui who have moved to Taiwan from the Golden Triangle region due to a desire for a Chinese-speaking environment or, in the case of those from Burma and Laos, a desire to escape war and instability. Given that these Hui in Taiwan are "New Taiwanese" and has connections to the Chiang government, most are of the "Blue" persuasion politically. Even so, there are probably more active Christians in Taiwan than active Muslims--and both are minorities compared with Buddhism and Daoism.
Interestingly enough, the imam of the Taipei mosque was one of Pres. Chen's entourage who attended the funeral of Pope John Paul II.
Perhaps the key difference between Europe and Taiwan re the Muslim population is that Taiwan does not have provisions to let the guest worker population stay once the contracts run out. Immigration provisions also make it difficult for guest workers to sink roots in the country.
Posted by: Kepha at June 24, 2006 7:45 AM
However, part of the problem is also due to the mentality of some of the Muslims who move there, yet display no loyalty to their new countries.
What's the probability that they did not 'choose' to emmigrate?
Immigrant men who divorce their wives according to secular law, but stay married to them according to sharia, Islamic law, represent an increasing problem in the city of Odense, Denmark, according to Erik Simonsen, deputy major in charge of administration. The result is a large number of "single" women who receive welfare support. From other countries, it is known that some Muslim men to do this trick with several women at the same time ...
Which usually results in a far higher Muslim birthrate. I believe that also in America this practice of spreading their seed has been taking place.
Thousands of Muslim children with Scandinavian citizenship are sent to Koran schools in Pakistan and other countries, to prevent them from becoming "too Westernized."
Now why would that be?
To my way of thinking Islam is getting the infidels to pay for their own destruction and had it not been for the 'jihadists' and their haste the West would not be aware of it's slow demise as it sinks into a sharia sea of black.
at June 24, 2006 8:08 AM
Please note, especially if you are in Great Britain or will be at the relevant time, the posting above by "Granny Weatherwax." Click on the link, and the useful information sheet appears; print it out, make copies, distribute as handbills to everyone you can.
Neither the British, nor any Western government so far, appears willing to do what it has a duty to do: both to instruct and protect its people or, in this case, to help protect by instructing. As it will not do so, out of timidity and stupidity (the esdrujula explanation), privte citizens are forced to act, as they were forced to act when governments were seized and controlled during World War, under the Nazi Occupation.
So people must save themselves, by the act of instructing first themselves, and then others. Help them.
Posted by: Hugh at June 24, 2006 8:51 AM
What's wrong? Can't the Moors keep their hands off the blue-eyed, svelte young lasses from the north? What can we really expect from nations of people that partake in a tradition of humiliatiing, torturing and raping enemy combatants captured in war, let alone innocent, defenseless victims.
The West is letting prey animals into the flock and we wonder why we are having so many violations at all levels? Snap out of it people. The PC mentality is going to kill us all if we don't start remembering our own internal barbarian.
The Swedes should have some historical examples to call upon if they need a refresher course in how to get suitable justice from these rapist scum. Better yet, drive them from your shores. Where is it written that any nation has to tolerate immigrants that do not assimilate, that pose a threat to the native inhabitants, that live among you in hubris and angry vexation?
Nationalism is a good thing.
Posted by: Foehammer at June 24, 2006 9:03 AM
FIVEOFNINE said:
"In America, muslim are very apt to scam either the government or businesses."
While I'm not a fan of the IRS, I feel that the only way to end this kind of scam stuff and illegal immigration is if we report this to the IRS and let them sort it out.
They tend to be more draconian than Homeland Security (ever been audited, I've heard it's not fun). If more of this stuff is reported to them (IRS), then it might just dry up. The Internal Revenue Service does not take very kindly to fraud.
Posted by: BG at June 24, 2006 9:25 AM
I don't feel sorry for them at all. This is Darwin is action. European critical self-analysis perverted into a one sided narcissistic guilt trip, causing the western left to abusively criticize western institutions, religion and civilization in general. While also advocating that non-western institutions, religion and civilization in general is superior or equal to its western counterparts. Enjoy your third world and all that goes along with it.
Posted by: Zebo at June 24, 2006 10:10 AM
Zebo:
I don't feel sorry for them at all. This is Darwin is action. European critical self-analysis perverted into a one sided narcissistic guilt trip, causing the western left to abusively criticize western institutions, religion and civilization in general. While also advocating that non-western institutions, religion and civilization in general is superior or equal to its western counterparts. Enjoy your third world and all that goes along with it.
See? It can easily work both ways. Asshole.
Spirit of 1683:
I have just been banned for two weeks (until 7/7/06 of all dates) from an online forum for 'peddling so-called racism and religious hatred
at June 24, 2006 10:40 AM
Granny good luck with your protest. You need to act fast to show the English public that someone is attempting to stop this madness.
From what I have been told the BNP has made tremendous gain in the recent elections and this can only be the result of other political parties ignoring the immigration and Islamic issues.
I have visited their website and it appears from the comments section that they are very carefully organizing and gaining many new members.
How can they be stopped at the same time as the Islamic threat.
What kind of England would a BNP government bring?
How big is their power base?
I must say I was very impressed by Melanie Phillips on Sky TV, is she involved in any political party?
Posted by: El Cid at June 24, 2006 11:11 AM
Fjordman,
Thanks for the excellent, well-researched article. If Europe survives, it will owe it to people like you.
at June 24, 2006 12:44 PM
It is indeed political.
Have at look at a rather more elaborate counter dawa information booklet here.
at June 24, 2006 6:27 PM
Zebo:
"I don't feel sorry for them at all. This is Darwin is action."
As a European, I strongly agree. This IS Darwin in action.
Who else are we going to point our finger at?
We have no one to blame but ourselves.
A little selfreflection never hurt anyone.
at June 24, 2006 7:59 PM
Granny Weatherwax, I am feeling sick, I just want to puke, and I know it is not due to the holy wine I have drunk tonight. HOw can we stop this REVOLTING DISGRACE???? Not in my name, I live here, I am a kind of Londoner now. I say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Posted by: Polish infideless at June 24, 2006 7:59 PM
The rorting of the Disabilty Pension and insurance/compensation by muslim immigrants described in the first post by FIVEOFNINE, is exactly the same here in Australia.
Without being specific about exactly where I work, I can say that I am employed administering part of Australia's welfare system and am constantly amazed by the consistency in the files of islamic immigrants - never, or very briefly, employed since arriving in Australia (usually from Lebanon), 6-7 kids, wives also on welfare since arriving in Oz and 90-95% have past or pending compensation claims.
In fact often times the only time welfare has ceased is on visits back to the middle east (and then only if the claimant is on unemployment benefits as Disabilty Pension remains payable overseas).
at June 24, 2006 9:41 PM
Islam is not a race.
Islam is not a religion.
Islam is a disease that must be wiped out.
at June 24, 2006 10:47 PM
If the problem is systematic, if it is similar in many different countries, if it appears to go far beyond, in its extent, and in its expense, the kinds of fraud that are found practiced by others, then it is not unreasonable to conclude that two things help explain the phenomenon.
The first is the belief, or better the ingrained attitude, that Non-Muslims owe Muslims tribute. That tribute may be formal, imposed for centuries on all the lands where Muslims ruleds. dominates, and in the past, for centuries, until roughly the middle of the last century when the Ottomans were subject to intense pressure by the European Powers to ameliorate the condition, by changing the legal status of non-Muslims in the lands directly under Ottoman control. In Algeria, the French did so directly, for the Jews with the loi Cremieux, for Christians by dint of their own powerful presence. In India, the imposition of Jizyah-like taxes ended when Mughal rule ended.
But everywhere that Islam now reigns, there are attempts to impose at least some of the conditions of inferior status once again on non-Muslims. Turks, for example, do not regard non-Muslims as full Turks but as "citizens of Turkey." Even several decades after Ataturk began to contrain Islam, in the 1940s, special taxes were imposed on non-Muslims. In Pakistan, non-Muslims must declare themselves, and are subject to restrictions that make them legally second-class, as even the Ahmadiyyas are now finding out. In Malaysia, the "Bumiputra" system is essentially a disguised Jizyah.
Formally, the Jizyah may not have been imposed. But the attitudes that arise naturally out of the tenets of Islam do not disappear even if certain formal systems of oppression were dismantled under European pressure, and in one form or anolther, that system that demanded so much of the dhimmi has been smuggled back in, and until those attitudes and tenets disappear, will always be in danger of full-throated re-acceptance by Muslims wherever they possess the power to re-impose the natural status of "dhimmi" (humiliation, degradation, physical insecurity) on non-Muslims.
The observable behavior of exhibited by Muslim communities in many different non-Musli countries, including a ruthless exploitation by so many of whatever the local Infidels offer by way of free or subdizied benefits, suggests behavior that is not regarded as wrong, but that is ideologically justified, for the Infidels should, in the classic Muslim view, ideally be subject to humiliation and degradation that befits their status as non-Muslims who ungratefully refuse to submit to Allah, to accept Islam, and should be forced to pay the Jizyah to Muslims. The persistence of Muslim attitudes surely explains a good deal of this behavior, as described in Australia and in other countries in the postings above.
The second reason for the disproportionate number of Muslims in prisons, or on the dole, or especially claiming disability payments, when they are not deserved, is undoubtedly the inshallah-fatalism that Islam encourages. Why not simply receive the payments available? Why try to work or achieve anything, if in the end it is all in the hands of a wilful and whimsical God? Inshallah-fatalism is quite different from the attitude expressed in the Protestant, be-up-and-doing Franklinesque phrase, God helps those who help themselves. Inshallah-fatalism ends up meaning: Take whatever you can from the Infidel nation-state. You deserve it. Allah says so. And Allah knows best.
Posted by: Hugh at June 25, 2006 12:52 AM
Hugh, excellent post.
Posted by: El Cid at June 25, 2006 1:10 AM
Hugh, there are a number of reasons why there are such a disproportionate number of Muslims in prisons. The inshallah fatalism has installed in them a lazy work ethic. Why work hard when it is Allah who determines whether you'll be rich or poor? This same ethic also taught them not to strive for good grades in school.
Another big reason hoewever why muslim boys fail both in school and at work and grow up to permanently unemployed or even criminals, is respect. They feel they should be respected for simply being who they are, they even feel that society owes them for this, while on the other hand they don't have respect for society, for authority and women. At home they're taught by their fathers to take control over women. Just like the fathers demand attention and domestic/sexual servitude from their wives, the sons take over this attitude and also dominate their mothers and sisters, not only in words but also with force if necessary. Domestic battering is highly prevalent in muslim households and shelters for battered wives are predominantly filled with muslim women these days. Add to this the (misplaced) sense of superiority that the Koran gives muslims and you've got a recipe for disaster.
Muslim boys grow up to be arrogant womenhating dictators at home, but when they're in school the figures of authoriy are mostly women. In many cases the first response of these muslim brats is to try to dominate their teachers, to rebel against female authority. While muslim girls usually perform pretty well at school, muslim boys are the opposite with their abhorrence of authority, their bickering and fighting, their lack of respect for authority and distrust of knowledge (another thing the Islam taught them). All these things set set them on a way of yearly low grades and finally large numbers of school dropouts. Once the school doors are behind them and they're left with no diploma or one so minimal that it won't matter in the real world, the cycle starts:
- Minimal education so it's hard to find a job
- Once they do find a job, their work ethic is so poor, they're the first ones to be sacked
- Because future employers become increasinly wary of the troubles with muslim workers, they start to prefer whites and non-muslim foreigners
- which makes it even more difficult for them to find a job
- When they do find one, the resentment against a society that doesn't treat them with "respect" grows and they perform even more poorly. Sacked again.
- Etc etc
at June 25, 2006 4:11 AM
That also happens to me occasionally when using adobe acrobat. It's worth trying again later.
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at June 25, 2006 9:29 AM
Granny bravo on your blog, I have bookmarked it and passed it on to friends in England.
You write very well and make an excellent and intelligent argument about Aisha.
DId you see "Melanie Phillips on Sky TV" she kept her cool and numerated one succinct argument after another as her Muslim opponent repeated hysterical tirads. As I am a passionate person, culturally and by nature, I admired her calm and dogged reason, in the face of such an assault.
Reason argument, for me, would be followed by passionate force, as in takeout your shot guns (number 1 bird pellet only). Well I have had the ocasional street encounter, as I put up poster, with friends and disciplined discourse just does not cut it when you deal with the typical Upper Westside liberal. My grandson says it's scary to see an old grey haired geezer like myself, shouting them down. At least when the cops come, I know they are on my side and it never goes to blows. Still I refuse to backdown and let them utter nonsense, such as, "we deserved 911".
I watched the towers come down, was covered by their dust, still have a trace of it in my mouth, saw the hundreds of bodies of the poor souls that were forced to jump from the tremendous heat and flames, it has forever changed me.
Reasoned argument is good, but let's not forget that righteous anger that we felt that day.
I will pass on your web-log to my British friends whom I'm afraid I my have turned off a bit with my approach.
They have told me that step 1 is to educate the British public about Islam and that step two is to get all political parties to take action.
I will pray, as always for those who fight this mence, especially those who are in England. This old geezer must be off to church.
I apologize if this has been off topic I appreciate and am thankful that Hugh and Robert are kind enough to accept my occasional well meaning rants. I am just a harmless old guy who loves his children.
God bless you all.
Posted by: El Cid at June 25, 2006 11:18 AM
This is a joint effort and another set up the blog; I do not have the skills. But thank you for your prayers and encouragement.
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at June 25, 2006 4:03 PM
A simple way to stop this welfare/benefit fraud would be to start using iris scans combined with fingerprinting of anyone seeking benefits. It would stop the fraud immediately. And limit the length of time anyone could recieve benefits. Insurance companies pay investigators to check up on claimants to make sure they are legitimate. Do benefits offices do that? No. But they should. Anyone physically able to get to the mosque each day should be physically able to work. Mental illness claims should be double checked.
Iris scans and fingerprinting should be implemented immediately. And anyone who is mentally ill and getting benefits because of that fact should be required to stop having children! And yeah I hear the gasp! Tough.
Posted by: Borg at June 26, 2006 6:35 AM
I don't know if anyone remembers an incident in North Carolina [or South Carolina?] about 15 years ago. A Lebanese brother and sister lived there, the sister was a nurse. They took out a big life insurance policy on the brother with Sis as the beneficiary. Then they found a homeless man; got him into their house; killed him, and then the sister got a death certificate in her brother's name for the corpse. I don't recall how they disposed of the body, burial or cremation. She was able to collect the insurance benefits, I seem to recall, but it may have been the insurance company investigator who eventually discovered the murder and turned them in.
Maybe after that their brethren decided that the life insurance scam-cum-murder did not pay. Because I haven't heard of any cases since then.
Posted by: Eliyahu at June 26, 2006 1:53 PM
haha i get a kick out of you guys writing rubbish. oh and by the way, you arent living in sweden. why worry about their so called economic problems. as you should know they need immigrants to survive. just like the u.s. does. and its a bit funny that your talking about muslims in america, who leech off the govt. if you do some research most of them are educated lads. theres what 6 million in the u.s. 290 million total pop. maybe 100,000 leech who probably need it. they are citizens. you should worry about your govt. more then innocent people like them.
Posted by: senn at June 27, 2006 3:31 AM
Re: Senn's "rubbish"
-Neither Sweden or the US needs immigrants to survive, especially Muslim ones. That is a big fat myth.
-Many of the people posting on this board are not Americans.
-Non-Americans comment on the US all the time and we have the right to do the same.
Muslims, be they educated or not are not at all good for America. They have a completely different belief system that is incompatable with our nation. They cause discord. Also, we have terrorist cells and sympathizers among educated Muslims. Leeches aren't good for America (and Muslims do this more).
- Anyways, you're not from the US so why worry about Americans and the US government Senn, worry about your own goverment and people.
at June 27, 2006 7:26 PM
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