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June 25, 2006

Muslim rape victim ostracised in India

As I have noted many times, Islam's evidence laws put victims of rape in Islamic societies at considerable risk -- and because of the strong emphasis on purity, they also can face the kind of treatment that Sabia is enduring. "Rape victim ostracised in Bihar," from the Indo-Asian News Service, with thanks to Daisy:

MUZAFFARPUR: Forced by a religious leader, a Muslim-dominated village in Bihar has asked a rape victim to leave the place after calling her 'napak' (impure) for giving birth to a child.

The husband has also deserted Sabia, a mute woman in her 20s and mother of two, following pressures from the leaders, the woman's distraught father Samsher Ali said.

The woman, who was raped last year by a neighbour, Mustafa, now lives with her parents in their thatched hut in the same village, Chandkiwari, in Muzaffarpur district, about 70 km from here. Mustafa is on the run.

Sabia's parents are facing the ire of the villagers for giving shelter to their "impure" daughter.

"No one talks to us; we have no social life. We are treated like animals for no fault of ours," Samsher Ali lamented.

Says Sabia's mother: "I fail to understand why my mute daughter was punished when she did not commit any crime. She was rather a victim of the heinous crime of rape. But these people do not realise it."

Maulana Abdul Haleem, a Muslim leader of the village, however said that as per Islamic law Sabia had become impure due to the rape and the "illegitimate" child.

"We have instructed the villagers to boycott her," he said without mincing words.

The villagers are following his instruction. "We are bound by the decision to boycott her," said Pir Mohammad, a villager.

He added: "This is not an individual decision. It was taken by the community."

Not, in other words, just by a Tiny Minority of Extremists.

Posted by Robert at June 25, 2006 3:22 PM
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Islamic rape law equates too.

RAPE IS LEGAL!

Burqa aren't just to hide the bruises.

Posted by: joejoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 4:16 PM

Such "wonderful" people.... such a "wonderful" belief system....

Everytime I think I have read the worst of what islam has to offer, an article like this brings it to a new low. It's almost unbelieveable how justice is completely abscent from islam, along with the complete lack of human dignity.

Besides something like this happening to a child, can you think of a more helpless victim than this? How can people actually live in such a society???

It's like a real life horror movie.... Wait, let me take that back, it is a real life horror movie...

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 4:34 PM

"Mustafa [the rapist] is on the run."

Why is he running? I thought Muslim men got off scott free for rape? Or is that just for non-Muslim women? Is there someplace in Islam that says a Muslim man can be punished for raping a Muslim woman?

Posted by: non-redneck [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 5:38 PM

Stories like this barely register on my radar anymore. Just another day in Muslim Land, nothing more.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 5:48 PM

The sheer scale of rape in the long and in my opinion sordid history of Islam augers very ill indeed - this does not sound like the "sort of thing that happens" but more like rape as a weapon which occurs in wars based on ideologies of group hate. The 400 plus years of warfare on American soil (all the Indian wars, the Civil War, the Revolution, etc.) were fairly low on rape and, correctly, ravishment. The constant smashing of the Islamic wave on Civilization's beachhead puts me in mind of the Rape of Nanking. To quote Reinhold Niebur in 1940 - "The Devil is back".

Posted by: duvaldoxy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 5:48 PM

Again, no outcry or howls of protest from Naseem and the other little dogs of islam? Shame on them!

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 6:01 PM

The woman, who was raped last year by a neighbour, Mustafa, now lives with HER parents.

Posted by: joejoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 6:26 PM

Where is the neighbor now. Is he on the run? He does not even have a name!

Posted by: joejoe [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 6:37 PM

Some REAL man her husband was. Living in the land of lawlessness, he should have have taken care of Mustafa when he had the chance and that would have been that.

If Sabia's husband was a REAL man, he would understand what rape is and stood by his wife, instead of treating it as a love affair and leaving her.

If Sabia's husband was a REAL man he would have explained to the muslim leader haleem, when haleems nose got away from his fist, that she isn't impure and she is innocent.

So now, this poor woman has to raise the children of a cowardly man AND a rapist on her own. Poor woman.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 6:53 PM

Young Muslim women in Europe go to extremes to be virgins — again

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 6:53 PM

" I thought Muslim men got off scott free for rape?"

My understanding of the official strict interpretation of sharia (please correct if wrong) is this: Rape is not a recognised crime in Islam. Fornication and adultery are. The woman and man can be stoned for adultery (one of them married), unless she has the 4 male witnesses to prove that she was 'innocent' - i.e. unwilling. That's the closest they get to recognising rape. Then the woman might go without being punished for being raped. So Mustafa might actually be stoned to death.

Rape is OK if the woman is of his right hand - i.e. his slave. Even if he recently killed or captured her husband in battle.

For fornication (ie both unmarried) women and men get lashes. But of course the woman would probably be killed by her own family in an 'honour' killing.

Here are a few examples. It seems that the stoning is applied even to non-adulterous extra-marital sex in some places: http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_adul1.htm

And if you 'need to' see a stoning, to REALLY BELIEVE what these beasts do, go to http://www.theres-something-about-islam.blogspot.com/. They wrap the victim in a sheet and bury them to shoulder level. He also shows a very small boy having his arm deliberately crushed by a car to 'teach him' for stealing some bread. Lots of adults standing around helping this happen.

Anyone who sees these will have to say goodbye to over-tolerant multiculturalism.

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 8:03 PM

BTW, those videos show that nobody needs to use 'hate speech' to show islam for what it is. Just correct translations of imams' ravings, pictures and videos of what sharia law does etc. We just need to get these truths out there...

Posted by: Lili [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 8:18 PM

If Shamsher Ali really cares about his daughter, he should leave that village, contact the VHP, convert his entire family to Hinduism, and continue from there. At least salvage the 2 kids, even if mom has no futre (being mute), and Ali is past his prime.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 8:19 PM

Lili, I've seen the stoning videos. Hideous. They do, though, dig the hole deeper for the women, up to her shoulders, and for men to their waist. If the victim can get up and run away, from my understanding, they are free. Meaning the man. There is NO way a woman can free herself from being buried to her shoulders.

And the video of the boy and the car, it's just sickening. If children are having to steal food , there is a definite problem that needs to be looked at. Breaking his arm doesn't cut it. The guy holding the kid's arm, sure looks happy to be doing it. Sick.

And you're right. This is one culture that the world can do without.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 8:50 PM

Lili:

BTW, those videos show that nobody needs to use 'hate speech' to show islam for what it is. Just correct translations of imams' ravings, pictures and videos of what sharia law does etc. We just need to get these truths out there...

Nah, won't work. They'll simply be dismissed as "isolated incidents." The Imam's will be labeled "extremists" or "not real Muslims."

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 9:11 PM

"We are bound by the decision to boycott her," said Pir Mohammad, a villager. "This is not an individual decision. It was taken by the community."

ROBERT SPENCER: Not, in other words, just by a Tiny Minority of Extremists.

Robert hammers home a point that must become central in our pedagogical efforts. While we can concede for the sake of argument that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not engaged in terrorism, we must emphatically point out social pathologies such as what happened to Sabia.

This coincides with other pathological aspects of Islamic culture, such as honor killings. It is not just the preponderance of such an evil that avails itself to critical scrutiny, it is the acceptance of it among neighbors, friends and others. In fact, the failure to "redeem" the family honor often results in social ostricization and is perhaps the primary impetus for such violence.

The same can be said of suicide-bombers; yes, they are a tiny minority, but in Palestine, Jordan and elsewhere, suicide-murder is met with a wide degree of social acceptance, where neighbors and friends come to pay their respects to the family of the Shaheeda and congratulate them on the martyrdom of their son, husband or brother.

Robert's point is pivotal; it is not just a "tiny minority of extremists."

We have to get that across to the uninitiated.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 9:29 PM

One thought just crossed by mind. As least her family is not trying to kill her as the people of the Islamic countries in the Middle East do when a woman is raped.

Posted by: non-redneck [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2006 11:32 PM

Definition of Hell: to be born a woman in a Muslim society.

Posted by: US_infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 1:57 AM

There was another incident in a muslim village in India. One muslim raped his daughter in law and then the imams said that now she is his wife and should take her husband (rapist's son) as her son (a la mohammad). It hit the headlines a lot. Eventually the Supreme Court told the imams that "no civilized society" can have any of this. The mullahs had to swallow this cos the Hindus are still a majority.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 2:05 AM

Freewoman, regarding the stoning regulations, I believe in Iran the man is buried to the waist, and if he escapes from that and the stoning, he is free to go. The woman is buried to the neck, and in the unlikely event she manages to free herself, she is to be hunted down and shot.
(no links available sorry.)

Yeah, that's honouring women above all.

L.Drummond

Posted by: L.Drummond [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 8:03 AM

Arjun

The first time I read about this, I was shocked that the Muslim "community" tolerated it, since it was a Muslim on Muslimah crime, no Kafirs involved. It was later when I read about Mohammed and Zainab that it all came together.

The reason the Mullahs had to swallow this was that for some reason, the ummah was divided (the Shia were opposed), and the Left actually opposed this Mullah ruling, thereby taking out any support for amending the constitution and doing an end run around the supreme court. It'll be interesting to see what happens in this case.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 11:34 AM

Infidel Pride,
I think the case is over. The woman did have to leave village with her husband. The left leant towards her cos some of the lefties are women's libbers. They came to her rescue.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 11:39 AM

This has been posted by a fellow JW/DWer WIDEAWAKE on Jihad Watch, but is sooooo appropriate for the comments by many people wondering where the outrage is from the muslims that say these incidents are not the actions of typical muslims. Their small denial is the extent of their protestings of the actions of those few "hijackers":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXD_GUY6y8

Posted by: No_Mooselimbs [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 26, 2006 5:11 PM

URGENT – TO ALL AUSTRALIANS!

Murdoch has made comments about the Islamic threat in the past http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127918/posts and he has now repeated this at a Sydney function naming him the most influential Australian of all time.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19597136-2,00.html
About an hour ago, influential Australian television program “A Current Affair” (ABC) has asked viewers to phone in and vote on the question: “Can Muslims be patriotic Australians” – or words to that effect, a resounding NO vote would send a clear message to politicians about the nature of public unease regarding Muslim immigration. So please vote ‘NO” – Phone: 1902 552 202

Posted by: Timbo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2006 5:46 AM

No_Mooselimbs,
Thanks for the link. Neal Boortz has a new fan. He sure tells it like it is, not pulling any punches. We need more people like him out there.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2006 9:03 AM

Arjun, sorry to hear about the woman but unfortunately not surprised. Islamic society does not create, it only destroys, and its members follow along blindly, supporting every oppressive decision their leaders make. As long as one quotes from the koran to justify their position, the masses are afraid to speak out against any injustice, regardless how horrible. And this passes for "civilisation" by their standards. Deplorable.

Posted by: Bohemond_1069 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 27, 2006 9:00 PM

Poore Sabia, who gets raped and then gets boycotted by her fellow citisens..
once again we can see what a peacefull and mercyfull religion Islam is (ent)!!

Dear Mr spencer, i think we should help this poore Woman, maby with a donation, i would like to donate some money for her and her family.
wouldent it be a good idea?
Can you help Mr Spencer.

ps: thanks for a good and honest newspaper!

Luke

Posted by: skywalkersen [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 28, 2006 3:54 AM

Bohemond,
If you follow muslim propangda during their festival times, you will get plenty of material to show to dhimmis. At eid, ramdan/ramzan, and jashne-eid-miladunnabee (this is the b'day of mad mo) they print flyers stating that mad mo taught civilization to savages of mecca. They make out that mecca was ruled by savages and mad mo was the light. I read these flyers for the past 10 years. It is the same garbage year after year. If what mad mo said is light, I would rather have darkness.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 28, 2006 7:17 AM

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