the latest masquerade of boycotting the legally elected government of Hamas by the West and preventing all other nations from helping them

Note the assumption that "the West" is under an obligation to give aid, and is doing something wrong when it decides not to do so. Aid as entitlement - jizyah, in other words.

If anything the UN has bent over backwards to appease Muslims. Look at its stance on Israel, for example.

Posted by: Interested at June 29, 2006 7:12 AM

Just what we need, more Muslim courts!

Posted by: Dumbo at June 29, 2006 7:15 AM

"Effrontery to question Iran's intentions". How dare this ignoramus have the effrontery to talk like this? Ahmadinejad has given clear notice of his genocidal intentions, time and time again.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4378948.stm

Damn primitives. They have the gall to talk about law, justice, and rights without having any conception of, let alone respect for, those things.

Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?. In short, no. So why are its mouthpieces pretending otherwise?

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 29, 2006 7:19 AM

What about the rights of the 20-year-old girl stoned to death in the story just below?

"Natural rights" according to the 17th-century philosophers include the rights to life, liberty, and property.

This woman's right to life was of no consequence to these Muslims - only their revolting pride which was piqued by the fact that she'd made fun of their absurd and unpleasant beliefs.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 29, 2006 7:25 AM

Yojimbo, you're confusing the Overwhelming Majority of Moderate Muslims with an unfortunate Tiny Minority of Extremists who violate the pacifist tenets of Islam because they're being repressed by Western corruption.

Posted by: Jesus Christ Supercop at June 29, 2006 7:45 AM

What whiny losers Muslims are. It is never,ever their fault, all Muslims can ever do is wallow in paranoia, conspiracy theories and self pity. Then further more they engage in projection and accuse their victims and enemies of commiting the exact crimes they commit againest others.

Frankly I wish the west did conquer the Muslim world. Muslims are bunch of vicious,insolent children in need of constant supervision.Al Faisal the reason the west is so involved in the Muslims world is that the Muslim world and its various pathologies are like a cancer that spreads across
the globe. Islam is a cancer or the religious equivalent of syphillis. Al Faisal the reason the west is the guardian of world peace is because we are superior to you and the pile of rubbish countries that make up the Ummah. Islam is worthless trash that totally disqualifies the Ummah for any positive contributions to human kind. In a word its the Islam dummy, that marginalizes you; Islam is your chains and shackles. Again I wish the west was more involved in your part of the world. It wish we could practice colonialism like 18th and 19th England and use it to break Islam once and for all and impose a form of Kemalism on the Ummah. One can only hope for the day when the full weight of the world truely is aligned againest Islam. Your court will fail and be unjust if by some miracle the turbaned children actually do get it of the ground. It will be a unjust failure, because Islam is an unjust failure. Any institutions birthed from the sludge of Islam will be less then worthless. A salam. With much comtempt.

Posted by: abdulalshirk at June 29, 2006 7:57 AM

Seems I read somewhere that photography really isn't to be allowed under Islamic law (perhaps that was just a ruling by some minor mullah or other, though). Anyone know anything about that? If true, it seems Ms. Al Faisal may be hoisted by her own petard.

OT - Yojimbo, you linked to ISIS. I've seen their site, and like it. Do you know if they're still active? The site seems to be only archival.

Posted by: Vee at June 29, 2006 8:44 AM

Good ideal. I bet we can get the Western nations to pay for it as well.

Posted by: JanuaryMan at June 29, 2006 8:55 AM

Vee,
Photography, painting, sculpture, drawing, dancing, all performing arts are prohibited under islam. That was why they went ape-shit over the cartoons of mahammad.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 29, 2006 9:02 AM

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

The UN has placated islam and opposing the USA and Israel in almost every way possible.

Posted by: adobe at June 29, 2006 9:12 AM

Maybe we will get sued by shyster sharia'h court Red Crescent ambulance chasers

Posted by: Dumbo at June 29, 2006 9:23 AM

I posted a message just before this news came out at the following topic just few scrolls down “US to supply Egypt with more mobile air defense units ideal for protecting invading forces”. I would advise everyone to read my comments which I believe are exactly relating to this news articles.

In brief I mentioned that Islam was gearing up for a new natural revolution under the banner of USI (United States of Islam). This revolution mostly combined of the younger generation would call for one Islam system to run one nation, which has no boarders. This revolution would be the strongest yet seen in history. I have been doing this research as a University Lecturer in England since 1996 but my work was not taken seriously until recently after 9/11.

This new storm is unimaginable which is brewing up in the Muslim world. Palestine has provided that particular link which has caused rebellion against the youth and their governments around the Muslim World. But this important news is down played by the government incase it increases pressure on them from the outside and where their weakness can be shown.

Please read my comments made at the following subject “US to supply Egypt with more mobile air defense units ideal for protecting invading forces”. We living in the west are totally unaware of this revolution which has gone past the incubation period.
This is very important news

Posted by: William Wallace Ellerslie at June 29, 2006 9:52 AM

Reem Al Faisal is not just any Saudi photographer. She is a Saudi princess, close relative of the former King. She is mentioned in many more stories than she authors herself. Her commentaries are universally anti-West and vigorously pro Muslim.

I consider her to be a mouthpiece for the Saudi government. There is no other way I can imagine that a Saudi photographer (born in the US!) would get such prominent exposure.

Posted by: Mr Jones at June 29, 2006 10:27 AM

You can't let them have jurisdiction over themselves, when they've proved to be biased already. They hate women. They hate infidels. They believe in torture. They believe in vigilante justice. They are liars. They are crooked.

There is no way this idiotic idea would work. Sharia is bad enough. But to have something like a true court would be disasterous.

Posted by: freewoman at June 29, 2006 10:28 AM

Paradise is under the shade of swords.

Allah hates you for asking too many questions.

Obey your leader even if he is a slave with a head like a raisin.

Taking captives is not desirable until a prophet has made wide slaughter on the land.

oppression is worse than slaughter

disbelief is worse than slaughter

fight them until all religion is for allah.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at June 29, 2006 10:30 AM

Freewoman, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have Muslims openly move away from western institutions.

It clarifies the situation that western civilization and Islam are incompatible.

Posted by: treehugger at June 29, 2006 10:31 AM

To abdulalshirk
An Infidel like you and others who agree that they too are infidels should be placed in a big ship and then sank to the bottom of the ocean. Let me tell you all a Joke (which happened in reality) but this really is dedicated to abdulalshirk.

There was once a Muslim who boarded a plane from London to Washington. The Muslim smartly dressed with this long beard sat next to the window side seat on this plane. Behind him sat two infidel adults much like abdulalshirk, upon seeing this Muslim they taught they would taunt and tease him as this natural with all infidels. So one infidel said to the other “I just been to India and where ever you turn you see Muslims, they are all over the place. So I had to leave that country altogether”, when the Muslim heard this he ignored such comments. The infidels realized that this had no impact so the other then said “Forget India I moved to France and where ever I went, turned all I saw was Muslims, you just could no get away from them they are everywhere in France so I left that country and moved to London”, the Muslim started to get uncomfortable at this persistent comments coming from the infidels, but he still kept his cool and ignored them. The infidels know were totally surprised that no response came from the Muslim, so the infidels being infidels taught they will continue saying out aloud these comments so one of the infidels (who first commented) said “I just boarded this plane from London and guess what there are more Muslim in London then they are in France, Indian and the Muslim world, they are everywhere even as far as this plane and in front of us so now I’m going to America but I bet you they will be there too”. The Muslim at this point could not control his actions, got up from his seat turned with a smile to the infidels, the infidels where now crapping their pants as they did not expect the Muslim to get up and face them, the red neck infidels were going red, pink yellow and blue. The Muslim leaned over his seat and said “why don’t you go to hell, because you surely won’t find any Muslims there”.

What an excellent reply “WHY DON’T YOU ALL GO TO HELL, BECAUSE YOU SURELY WONT FIND ANY MUSLIMS THERE”.

Anyway coming back to abdulalshirk, people like you in massive infidel armies for over 1000 years have tried their up most to break the Muslim Empire but have had no joy since they were crushed at every attempt, but in reality your own comments suggest that you currently are scrawny and would prefer to go back to the 18th and 17th century, well let me tell you that no matter what you try to do or wish for, Muslims always will remain unbroken. The reason why you wrote them comments are because you clearly know that the Muslims are growing in strength day by day and after ruling the Middle East and South Pacific they are traveled across the shores into Europe and America. Although small number of Muslims have decided to deal with the Jews living in PALESTINE while the rest prepare for the battle in the heart of the infidels nations.

I mean look at the strength of the Muslim in Palestine who have no army, just a handful of youths using stones and home made firing equipment are fully taking on the Jewish military might. Yet the Jews with all their power cannot drive the Muslims out. Can you imagine the rest of the Muslims walking in the streets of Europe and America secretly preparing for battle to amputate the infidels from this planet and send them to Hell far away from the Muslims?

You may be secretly wishing “let the fight begin” well let me tell you, “The clash has already began”. We don’t fear western infidels because the infidels in the west I know really well. On a battle field all you got to do is give them the choice of either freedom or a pint of larger, and no doubt they will choose a pint of larger over their freedom. Your days of freedom are countable on the fingers on my hand.

The time is near, prepare for battle as the spoils of war will be for the Muslims. The infidel women will no longer give birth to infidels since there will remain no infidel males.

No doubt at this point all the infidels are burning and raging in anger wanting to reply to this message, however I would advise you to save you burning and raging for the battle field, you will need it.

BRING IT ON – I LOVE IT

Posted by: Khalid Bin Waleed at June 29, 2006 10:47 AM

Bring back Western Colonialism. The post-Colonial West probably has spent more money and time -- since Colonialism was dismantled by the West beginning over 50 years ago -- trying to handle Third World messes in a fastidiously non-Colonial fashion, than it would if it were to re-colonize the Third World full throttle. Though I realize this is tangential to the important theme of this site, the fact is that most of the non-Muslim Third World is a shambles of corrupt, chaotic and dysfunctional habits. The Muslim parts of the Third World distinguish themselves merely by being a) significantly worse, and b) posing dangers to all three "worlds" of the World. This should not, however, let the non-Muslim parts off the hook of taking due responsibility for their endemic and inveterate sociopathologies. Either they should be treated as grown-ups, and be responsible for their messes, or, if we are to treat them as children who constantly need our help, let's stop being hypocritical liberal crypto-colonialists condescending to the third world noble savage and actually help them in an honest way as the children who need our help that they are. They would be better helped were we to be open and frank about the relationship of parent to child, superior to inferior (as in the good -- not perfect, for those sophomores reading -- old days of the British Empire, for example), than they have been these past 50-odd years with the West playing this game of pretend and hypocritical self-contradictory half-assedeness.

Ergo, my first sentence above.

Of course, it won't happen. Doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

Posted by: Television at June 29, 2006 10:48 AM

This move sounds like just another step to creating the next Caliph

Posted by: Avatar at June 29, 2006 10:49 AM

said “why don’t you go to hell, because you surely won’t find any Muslims there”.

What an excellent reply “WHY DON’T YOU ALL GO TO HELL, BECAUSE YOU SURELY WONT FIND ANY MUSLIMS THERE”.

Thanks for repeating that and putting it in capitals. I would have missed the punchline otherwise.

old days of the British Empire

Those were the days.

Posted by: Interested at June 29, 2006 11:07 AM

Go on americaningermany, you tell this William Wallace...

From what I know wasn't William Wallace the Scottish Hero who died as an infidel murdered by an infidel. Both who were from the same religion.

Bugger off you Scottish infidel. I have to admit Brave Heart was a good movie.

Posted by: Khalid Bin Waleed at June 29, 2006 11:22 AM

Actually if there are no Muslims in Hell, I look forward to it...

Posted by: Daffersd at June 29, 2006 11:24 AM

I have to admit Brave Heart was a good movie.

You're joking. Mel Gibson's Scottish accent was the silliest thing since Audrey Hepburn's Cockney accent in My Fair Lady.

Posted by: Interested at June 29, 2006 11:27 AM

Freewoman, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have Muslims openly move away from western institutions............by treehugger

It wouldn't be that bad except for as I said the bias....it would be like kindergarten kids meting out justice.

My problem would be if it could involve non muslims. I don't know if a muslim could bring suit against a non muslim in a muslim court. That is what I was concerned about.

If they could stick to stoning, beheading, cutting off hands and feet, whipping, caning, starving, beating and hanging each other and not non muslims, it would be ok.

Posted by: freewoman at June 29, 2006 11:28 AM

I rather liked Audrey Hepburns accent. By G'awd, can you adam and eve it.

Freewoman, can you imagine it George W Bush being hauled up in front the foaming mad Mullahs for spreading corruption on this earth and refusing the invitation by Muslims to submit to Allah, well neither can I.

As for the non-Muslim population in Muslim countries its perhaps better then being lynched by a howling mob of lunatic Muslims.

And look to the other benefit, perhaps we could even make these European Human Rights law work for us for a change, though I am sure our bunch of corrupt leaders will take their bribes and change the laws accordingly

Posted by: Daffersd at June 29, 2006 11:45 AM

Islamic National Justice, or I.N.-Justice for short.

Where women have half the value of men.

I love it.

Let them stew themselves with their own intolerant, cracked-glass fantasies of Allah-based jurisprudence. But do it in Arabia, since, after this proposal, the repatriations of Islamic infil-traitors in the West should begin, -with Mecca as their final destination.

Wall-eyed Ben Cabbagehead-

No Muslims in Hell?

Clearly, like all triumphalistic Islamofascist morons, you have failed to read your own purulent playbooks of theocratic terror and turgid tyranny.

In the Hadiths, Mohammad is quoted as saying that "most of the inhabitants of Hell will be Muslim women". Because they are so flighty in their fixation on the feral faith of the pedophile "prophet".

Islamic "justice" is a worse oxymoron than
"Koranic scholar".

Still, as long as they keep their mindless, anal-sadistic depredations focused on their own bowing asses, let these resentful retrogradistes revel in the vicious auto de fe's of Mohammedan madness.

Chop off those impoverished hands! Stone those helpless women! Behead those uppity intellectuals! Let the Ummah pith itself to the condition of a brainless frog volta-spasming in a planetary petri dish.

The petri dish of Mekka, please.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 11:45 AM

TYPO_

"auto da fe".

From the Inquisition era. Meaning: "after the trial", or the public confession (usually of imaginary crimes, as happen under later dictatorships, like Stalin's show trials in the 1930's) so that the cruel sentencing could then seem 'justifiable'.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 11:49 AM

Kangaroos to form own Court!

Posted by: MP at June 29, 2006 11:53 AM

@Khalid Bin Waleed

Well, we all know there are no muslims in our hell.

So let me tell you a story

There is this man who dies after having lived a perfectly saintly life and he goes to heaven, where God himself opens the Gates for him and shows him to his cloud.

After a while, God calls him, they sit at a table and have dinner. A yogurt. The next day the meal is a musli. While eating his musli, this man can look down to hell, where he sees people standig around pots with stews, and where others roast whole pigs and oxes, while all of them drink wine and a few of them bake cakes.

The next day, he gets yet another yogurt, the following day it's musli again.

So he takes heart, and asks God, after praising the fresh air, the music, and the space up there, he ask God why he gets all that yogurt, while the ones in hell have the best food one can think of.

And God shrugs His shoulder and says, well, you know, it's not really worth the effort to cook, just for the two of us.

So, Khalid Bin Waleed, now you know why I look forward to hell. I already ordered the Inmates' Guide to Cuisine in Hell (including the list of wines that go with the recipes).
And remember: There are no muslims in our hell.

Posted by: FreeSpeech at June 29, 2006 11:55 AM

Supra-sovereign entities must be rejected summarily.

The only way to make supra-sovereign entities appear to work is to embrace the notion of multi-culturalism. Consensus and multilateralism are viewed today as positive accomplishments in and of themselves -- regardless of the content or parameters of the consensus, the ability to bring about the stated goals of the so-called consensus -- or whether or not the consensus delivers the goals which supposedly required the consensus in the first place.

There is no value in consensus if it's arrived at by surrendering core values. Do these supra-sovereign organs deliver on their promises, or do they usually deliver the exact opposite?

The UN is a joke as it's currently configured. The inmates and worst offenders of 'international laws' are running the asylum and running amok: Saudi Arabia, Cuba, and Libya have served as recent heads of the UN's Human Rights Commission. They do nothing to further Human Rights, and everything to destroy them.

The IAEA, the UN's nuclear anti-proliferation regime (run by an Arab who has expressed sympathy for Muslim nuclear proliferators and under whom the worst era of proliferation has flourished) is a nightmare. Their actions have done more to guarantee proliferatin than to prevent it.

The UN 'Peacekeeping' missions have not only proven ineffectual, but downright inflammatory and downright corrupt. It's forces have been guilty of pillaging, raping, and murdering. They haven't kept the peace anywhere.

The Kyoto accords encourage China and India, among the dirtiest users of energy in the world today, to go forth without restriction, while the cleanest users of energy are hampered by unsupportable goals.

The European 'World Court' is a joke. The show 'trial' of Milosevic, or thwarted attempts to indict a sitting US President, VP, and Secretary of Defense during wartime pretty much sums it up.

The EU is a heinous anti-democratic monster -- one determined to reinstitute a disdainful imperial regime over the new serfs of Europe. The EU will be the death knell of Europe by either dooming her to eternal ineffectualness, or causing her to spiral into civil war (or both). Despite its utter defeat in simultaneous referenda in the two nations which spearheaded this monstrous project of vivisection (those are France & Belgium), this Frankenstein zombie still continues to haunt Europe without slowing down. With zombies, everybody knows you must kill the brain.

Perhaps we should let the Muslims show their heinous face to the world in such a body. It is doomed to fail unless their larger genocidal project to dominate the earth prevails. But while we worry about such stupidities, our own cancerous proliferations in the West of sovereignty robbing corrupt regimes of brainless multilateralism, NGOs, and metasticizing Mega Bureaucracies all built on false consensus (or more accurately hollow consensus) continue to grow and threaten our long term survival. These things must be exterminated before it's too late.

Posted by: jsla at June 29, 2006 12:13 PM

FreeSpeech

I like it, so when are you going to hell. I mean if you need help then you welcome to join the armed failing forces of the western world and then enter Iraq or Afghanistan. I think Iraq would be better because the Iraqis are not that busy yet in sending the Americans to Hell.

I think what you should do is also take with your friends and family. I mean come on you don't want to miss them.

Aaahhh, if only all the infidels were as good and willing as you, then the world would be a safer place for all (the Muslims).

May god bless you and your friends and family the hell. Amen

Posted by: Khalid Bin Waleed at June 29, 2006 12:17 PM

Freewoman-

It would definately be a concern for "infidels" in Muslim countries.

However, after a few public atrocities, how many westerners would want to subject themselves to such a risk (few)? How many Western governments would cooperate in handing over their citizens to muslim "justice" (none)?

If the majority of muslims reject such a system, there may be hope for reform and reconciliation. If not, we will have open enemies, rather then false friends.

Posted by: treehugger at June 29, 2006 12:36 PM

ISLAM IS HELL ON EARTH

Posted by: Greek Gurl at June 29, 2006 12:58 PM

Speaking of people who belong in hell (or are abetting its onset)- the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5-3 decision (Roberts recused himself) just ruled that the terrorists, spies and saboteurs locked up in Guantanamo Bay cannot be tried by military courts.

The suicide of the West continues, in black robes this time.

They should call this ruling:

The "Mundus vult decipi" Decision.

{"The world wishes to be deceived".]

I suggest a quick celebration for the Gitmo prisoners.

And free souvenir Supreme Court neckties as party favors.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 1:15 PM

Here's a link to the Supreme Court GITMO decision:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/29/scotus.tribunals/index.html

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 1:20 PM

" the latest masquerade of boycotting the legally elected government of Hamas by the West and preventing all other nations from helping them " ... from the talking saudi baboon

What a load of horseshit! The UN has sought every way imaginable to subvert the boycott supported by Israel, and halfheartedly by the U.S. And nobody, including the UN, is preventing this talking baboon's own country, which in recent years has stolen and usurped an obscenely large amount of the civilized world's wealth, from giving a million dollars to each and every one of their precious 'palestinians'.

They don't for three reasons. 1) They want to keep them hungry and angry at the Jews, 2) They must be paraded as the showpiece proof of muslim 'victimhood', and 3) The saudi rulers are cheap self-serving misers, following the footsteps of their perfect profit mahomet.

Posted by: Infidel33 at June 29, 2006 1:33 PM

Khalid Bin Waleed: I have a joke for you...

An infidel, Bob, and a muslim, Mo, are walking in the desert and find a lamp half buried in the sand. The muslim rubs it and out pops a Genie and says to the two that he will grant one wish each.

Mo claims the first wish since he is the one that actually found the lamp in the first place. His wish is that the muslims of the world unite and create an empire completely based on sharia and devoid of all relations with the infidels. This 'empire' is to be surrounded by a wall 100 feet tall and 100 feet thick so that the impure infidels will no longer be able to corrupt the pure minds of the islamic believers.

Poof! It is done.

Asks the Genie, "What is your wish Bob? "

"Fill it with water" was his reply.

No muslims in Hell? I believe you are correct because after they die and see Jesus sitting at the right hand of God they will forget all about ol' Mo and fall tyo their faces and ask to be forgiven for their foolish disbelief and will be forgiven by the Truth and the Light.

Your dear prophet however will not fare as well... He will be sitting around the campfire with Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler and Satan wondering why he didn't listen when he heard "What profit a man to gain the whole world when in the process he loses his own life."

Regards.

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 1:39 PM

Khalid bin Waleed - your joke was funny in the same way the old Pollock and blonde jokes are in a kind of supremacist way... and it was instructive in terms of the blanket assumptions the muslim world seems to put on infidels, like things being 'natural' and 'infidels being infidels'. Thanks, that sums up the prejudicial, supremacist attitude very well.

But I'm afraid you misunderstand your religion.
Mohammed himself said that only around 70,000 or 77,000 muslims will get to enter paradise. The rest go to hell. Mohammed also told us that he saw into Hell and the majority of the people (if you consider them people) suffering there were women... Muslim women, since they were disobedient to their husbands and deficient in religion. Mohammed also testified that better than 999 out of 1,000 muslims will end up in Hell. So you're wrong. Most of the muslims who have lived will be in hell. 70,000 is a small number... I bet Paradise has been filled already, with allah's killers from years 642 to 1400. Paradise has been filled and no one tells the living muslims this unfortunate situation.

In fact Muslims can't even be sure where The Example for all Men in all Times and Places, Mohammed, ended up after death. Mohammed didn't know... no one else does either. So that is why you say 'Peace Be Upon Him' after every mention. only allah knows what allah does.

How unfortunate for the rest of you... you submit to the will of allah - a god who denies all but around 70 or 77,000 killers a good eternity.

How stupid of you to go along with it.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at June 29, 2006 1:40 PM

Sorry should read: "...he loses his own soul."

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 1:43 PM

Hey, Khalid BW - the 17th & 18th centuries trump the 6th & 7th, anyday!

(You need to take some English writing lessons, too, BTW.)

Posted by: Vee at June 29, 2006 1:57 PM

From the original article, it seems that the Muslims feel that the UN is simply a tool of the West. In the meantime, we in the West feel that the UN is simply an appeasement club for Muslims.

Given this common ground, why don't we and Muslims get together on the one thing we agree on, and dismantle the UN, the World Court in the Hague, and every other International organization that has Islamic countries as members (or at least expel Islamic countries from such organizations).

A good first step that everyone can appreciate - and one that's long overdue.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 29, 2006 2:12 PM

Khalid Bin Waleed: I have another "Joke" for you...

There once was a man that lusted for power and all the treasures of this Earth. So the man set out to build an empire, but to his dismay no one truly took him seriously in the beginning and was ran out of town.

Now this certain man's lust for power knew no bounds and was therefore able to persuade some of the people that his claim to be God's chosen emissary was indeed fact.

As his "cult" grew in numbers and wealth (as with most cults new believers are required to give up their earthly possessions to God's emissary as they won't be needing them in the afterlife anyway)and the "profet" wanted more power and glory. Arms were acquired and war was waged against those that were "unbelievers" in this new "prophesy". "All who do not believe are condemed to Hell for their unbelief" he says.

Now since 'he' was God's chosen one he was entitled to certain priveledges such as marrying young girls so that he could have them while they are pure of heart. Many wives so that he will be taken care of as only God's beloved should be. And the Lion's share of the spoils of war.

Then Jim Jones said hey mohammed, me Satan and David Koresh are going to play some poker... interested?

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 2:14 PM

Best Joke that I have ever heard however....

...islam!

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 2:17 PM

Heaven? Hell? ....Screw heaven. If it is full of Mohammaden asshole paedophiles buggering little virgins and drinking from rivers of wine, than I would rather go to hell. However, I think if I wanted to expedite my journey there, I would not choose to go to Iraq. There are about 2 million men and women in the United States Armed forces, and it has taken the terrorists over three years to kill 2500 of them. Going by the statistics I would likely have to wait a very long time for death. I think if I wanted to kill myself, a statistically more viable option would be to walk outside in a thunderstorm and hope to be hit by lightning. The Mujahideen just aren't getting it done. They can't even hold a candle to what Vietnamese peasants did in the 70's. Just look at the numbers.

Posted by: Abu Allah at June 29, 2006 2:34 PM

OT - Yojimbo, you linked to ISIS. I've seen their site, and like it. Do you know if they're still active? The site seems to be only archival.

Vee,

I'm sorry; I don't know.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 29, 2006 2:37 PM

Notice too that their world court will NEVER protect the rights of non-Muslims (except to ensure that every one of the infidels is stripped of every right they ever had under democratic government).

Who in the western world will be the first to finance it???

Posted by: pythagoras at June 29, 2006 2:46 PM

If [paradise is full of people indulging their senses in an unseemly manner] and drinking from rivers of wine, than I would rather go to hell.

This one always amuses me.

If heaven and hell exist here and now in this world, why can I not go there now and take a look round and consult with the dead - rather as Odysseus does (Odyssey, Book 11)?

The whole globe has now been mapped, and it is difficult to beleive that they could have escaped the cartographers' notice. But, in any case, the notion of going to such a place before death is an absurd thought; yet it must be possible, if heaven and hell are in the world.

Now, we could say that perhaps they are outside space and time, as the Christians would say.

However, we now have an equally absurd situation. Christian texts generally avoid elaborate descriptions of these "places" (if we may use the term, since there is no "place" - no particular part of space - for them to be in) and what references there are are not understood to be literal descriptions. How could they be?

However, the Koran, unlike the Bible, is, we are told, to be understood literally.

Now reflect on these all-too-sensual pictures of paradise. There are rivers of wine. Does a river not take up space? Does it not flow within time? People who have done particularly worthy (sc. violent and wicked) deeds for the faith have banquets. But does a piece of food I am holding in my hand not take up space? Does the process of eating it not occur in time? And how about those houris? Can I imagine a houri who does not take up space? Can I imagine sexual congress with one that is not a process in time?

How about that burning in hell? Combustion is a process is it not? It takes time. And, again, fires occupy space.

Muslims scholars, including those that hacked up the Koran from whatever sources preceded it, had not grasped, and still do not grasp, the concept of eternity. Talk of someone in paradise with an everlasting erection or someone in hell whose body is made over again for more burning next day and you clearly haven't understood the concept. The thought here is not of eternity but of an unimaginably long stretch of time.

In fine, either heaven and hell are in the here and now. And in which case why can't we go there before death? Or they are outside space and time, in which case nothing can be known or said about them, because it is impossible for us to have knowledge of, or even imagine, possible experience that does not take place in space and time. Try it as a thought experiment.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 29, 2006 3:23 PM

I’ve got a joke for you, too, Khalid Bin Waleed…

--
Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights. One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.

The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's a-comin'…
--

Oh, and here’s how I look at it: if God is the type of being that wishes for his own creations to turn on each other, kill, hate and behead each other, then I want nothing to do with that God. The fruit borne from Islam is all of these things and more and the entire world is coming to see the wretched, foul fruit that is Islam.

Satan is the God of Islam. All of the previous martyrs for Islam are currently writhing in fire and torment and begging the Muslims of today not to continue …but the living cannot hear their cries.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at June 29, 2006 3:31 PM

Yojimbo

I can show you where heaven and hell is, seriously I can. I can also show you everything which is said to mankind in the Quran (Holy book for the Muslims) however before I show you the above there is a condition involved, which is:

You show me that you have a soul and then I will show you heaven and hell.

If you can't show me your soul then next time you have a physical pain, show me the pain so I can physically see it. If you can't show me it then I won’t show you heaven or hell.

I hope this makes sense.

Posted by: Khalid Bin Waleed at June 29, 2006 3:31 PM

Gator, where have you been? I loved your joke and I'm ready to play cowboys and muslims. Let the games begin!

Posted by: dms at June 29, 2006 3:40 PM

illustr8rg8r

“if God is the type of being that wishes for his own creations to turn on each other, kill, hate and behead each other, then I want nothing to do with that God”

But your government wishes for the mass killing of innocent Muslims (as well as others) around the world, then you have everything to do with that government. Don’t you.

BTW: The western world also have criminals who kill each other but yet you are part of the society where people kill, rape, beat and allot to each other.

Hitler was a devote Christian who killed the Jews and fought his own and likewise other western countries fought against Hitler were people on both sides were murdered, but you are still part of that society. I know what you going to say, fighting against Hitler was a good thing and the right thing, that what Hitler taught that he was doing the good and right thing killing the Jews and fighting with people of this own beliefs.

I rather follow Islam and the Qur’an which provides me with answers for everything in this universe compared to a governments who kill Muslims because they happen to live on the oil fields. No Muslim nation ever attacked America but yet the Muslims have been attacked multiple times. Enough is enough, and the time has come where Islam will spread until all infidel face the 3 options, Islam, Jizya or the sword.

Posted by: Khalid Bin Waleed at June 29, 2006 3:41 PM

dms

The games have already begun.

I hear two bodies of American were found in Iraq, from the initial reports it seems like they were tortured, because they found each others testicles in their mouths and had been sodomized.

It is true then that when ever a cow boy dies its always a desert..

ha ha hhhhhaaaa haha hha ha

Waiting for some news of dieing cowboys.

Posted by: Abu America at June 29, 2006 3:47 PM

Hey Khalid I've got news for you your world is full of murder, rape, beatings and beheadings. Don't even try to tell me that yours is a peaceful world. I've never seen so much hatred and bloodshed. You people can't even get along with each other.

Gator, that was the funniest joke ever! I was laughing so hard I practically fell from my chair. Lets play Cowboys and Indians...It sounds like so much fun!

Posted by: Giggle-Puss the Brave at June 29, 2006 3:53 PM

Khalid Bin Waleed:

Just like your prophet you put stock in this life, it's politics and pleasures.

You say "But your government wishes for the mass killing of innocent Muslims (as well as others) around the world, then you have everything to do with that government. Don’t you."

The God I worship cares nothing for politics and earthly treasures and pleasures in complete contrast to muslims and their prophets' beliefsuch as eternal orgies (for men) in the afterlife.

There are many, such as Hitler, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Roman Emperors, the Catholic church, Christians in Salem, MA and your beloved mohammad, persons throughout history that have said they were chosen by God and what they say is directly from God. The truth can be found in their actions NOT their words. And if those actions are for ones earthly benefit and not to glorify God then it is a lie, a horrible lie.

Sorry ol' boy, but those that have heard the "truth" will never be converted from it no matter how much death you threaten or even propogate on them.

Yours is a false religion based on early desires and will fail in the end.

Satan is ruler of earth which is exactly where islam seems to have most of it's focus.

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 3:58 PM

Kalhid, the nation of islam attacked America on 9/11.

So you still believe the sun sets in a puddle and the mountains anchor the earth and semen comes from your back and babies start out as blood clots and all the other silly "scientific" things your koran says?

Your allah has been proven wrong. Get it? Wrong. If allah wanted the infidels destroyed, surely he could do that with a lightening bolt. And would your allah who favors muslims make them hate each other?

Come on. This is the 21st century, and science has proven the backward cult wrong on everything and yet you, who appears to be able to read and write, still believe the nonsense.

Posted by: freewoman at June 29, 2006 4:00 PM

I never could figure out a god who is so impotent as to rely on mere mortals to do his dirty work. Not a powerful god at all. All those people with their butts in the air and I thought they just needed to pass gas but they were just praying.

Posted by: dms at June 29, 2006 4:01 PM

Kamel ben Cabbagepatch-

"Three options: Islam, Jizyah or the sword."

You forgot the fourth option:

Predator drones.

Don't carry anything electronic or wear anything metal.

Look to the skies, often. (Even though Mohammad forbade it while praying.)

Practice how to say: "Oh, no!" real fast.

And learn the newest Arabic word:

KYAGB.

(Kiss Your Ass Good-Bye.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 4:10 PM

Different martyrs, Christian and muslim.

Muslims believe that if they are killed while commiting violence and terror in the nam of allah they will receive eternal life and all that comes with it in their certain beliefs.

Christians believe that if they are killed for their God's sake in the duty of spreading the "Good News" about their Lord and savior, they will receive eternal life. And that eternal life is to be in the presence of God and his beloved son singing their praises in devout worship.

Heaven for islam is nothing more than an extended version of life on earth with it's killing, terror and sexual pleasures because that is all their prophet knew during his life.

islam's God is impotent and hollow. To quote freewoman from above If allah wanted the infidels destroyed, surely he could do that with a lightening bolt"

I truly feel sorry for muslims, but not so sorry that I wouldn't take full advantage of the "Stand you ground" law that we have here in Florida if I felt threatend by those that follow the curse that is islam.

Sincerely.

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 4:18 PM

Florida's "Stand your ground" law:

Protection of Persons/Use of Force; authorizes person to use force, including deadly force, against intruder or attacker in dwelling, residence, or vehicle under specified circumstances; provides that person is justified in using deadly force under certain circumstances; provides immunity from criminal prosecution or civil action for using deadly force; defines term "criminal prosecution", etc.

"Don't tread on me!"

RD
Florida, USA

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 4:23 PM

I hope this makes sense.

No, it doesn't, Khalid.

Read what I wrote slowly, while thinking about it, and try the thought experiment I suggested.

Posted by: Yojimbo at June 29, 2006 4:26 PM

Khalid Bin Waleed,

Okay, so you’ve learned everything you need to know from the Qur’an …like the earth is flat? What other nuggets of wisdom have you and your fellow Muzzled ones learned? Oh …submission, for one. Hatred and intolerance of others, for another.

Look, you can say whatever you want and you’ll never be swayed by the likes of me, but this so-called ‘holy war’ that is taking place has always been between Islam and everybody else. The US has been in existence for 200+ years (thanks to the Barbary Coast savages who raided shipping vessels and forced Columbus to go a different way in order to find India to trade with …hey, who do you suppose were those nasty pirates and barbarians he was trying to avoid? Were they Islamic, perhaps?) and bigotry and hatred of all non-Muslims by the Muslim world has been around ever since good ol’ Mo convinced a few greasy sand-monkeys into killing and murdering for him and spreading his diabolical, evil, twisted ways.

The West has bent over backwards to please the unpleasable Muslims and allowed them into our countries as guests only to find they hold firm to an ancient religion of hatred and only wish to destroy us –when you’re invited into a person’s home on good faith, you don’t start swinging a baseball bat and breaking his things, do you? Only savages would consider doing so! We’ve expanded technological breakthroughs and given them to the ancient Muslims thinking they may use it for good and maybe bring themselves out of the dark ages and into the modern world only to find they wish to use it to our own downfall. Medicines …created by the West, of course. Books, literature, sciences …all things most likely considered non-Islamic by Muslims and, therefore, satanic. Its black and white reasoning in a world filled with colors, hues, and varying shades …but to the stunted, backwards-thinking mind of the strict Islamic Muslim, it’s only black and white. How sad.

So please tell me when my government claimed to want to mass murder Muslims. Please enlighten me, oh smart Khalid. Please tell me because I missed that part. Never have they wanted Muslims dead, but tried, once again foolishly, might I add, to help the Muslims help themselves …we found a use for their oil and helped them to build drilling machinery and refineries and paid them, then, for their goods; sort of teaching them how to fish so that they’ll never starve and they can fend for themselves. If they had wanted to kill Muslims, they would’ve said so …much like madman Ahmadinejad wants to wipe out the Israelis in “one storm” …there’s your tolerance, I guess. Don’t talk about Hitler when Iran’s conjuring up a brand new one to infuse the world with more ‘peace’ and ‘tolerance’ the Islamic way. Believe me, if the US government wanted to annihilate an entire group of people, they wouldn’t be there now. Period.

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at June 29, 2006 4:26 PM

"No Muslim nation ever attacked America but yet the Muslims have been attacked multiple times. Enough is enough ... face the 3 options, Islam, Jizya or the sword." -by Khil DIe und Werk Macht Frei

What you say is correct. We attack you because you're completely inferior to us. We attack you because you deserve to be attacked -- and don't deserve to thrive or flourish until you get with the modern program -- It's the old story. Stone age meets Space age ... Stone age loses! Nothing new. Simple.

We're patiently trying to get you to drop the primitive barbarism so we don't have to Khalill you, but you just don't get it.

Anyway -- sometimes I wonder if Muslims like this are right: Maybe Satan actually does rule the Universe and has a plan for Islam -- Maybe in his perversion He disigned it so the inferior barbarians and scum of the earth are actually supposed to be the bosses and will eventually burn, rape, pillage, steal, and desecrate their way to the bottom for us all. Wouldn't that be scary?

Posted by: jsla at June 29, 2006 4:33 PM

Hey, let’s have some more jokes about the ‘tolerant’ Muslims, why don’t we? Like our dimwitted friend Khalid liked to point out: they’re funny because they’re true!

These are by stand-up comic Goffaq Yussef …a funny Muslim? Is that an oxymoron …?

--
Good evening gentlemen, and get out, ladies.

On my flight to New York there must have been a Jew in the bathroom the entire time. There was a sign on the door that said "occupied."

What do you say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes? Nothing! You told her twice already!

How many Palestinians does it take to change a light bulb? None! They sit in the dark forever and blame the Jews for it!

Did you hear about the Broadway play, The Palestinians ? It bombed!

What do you call a first-time offender in Saudi Arabia? Lefty!

Did you hear about the Muslim strip club? It features full facial nudity!

Why do Palestinians find it convenient to live on the West Bank? Because just a stone's throw from Israel!

Why are Palestinian boys luckier than American boys? Because every Palestinian boy will get to join a rock group!

A small plane carrying Yassir Arafat and all his top lieutenants crashes and all aboard are killed. Who is saved? The Palestinian people!

A Palestinian suspect was being grilled by Israeli police. "Honest, I'm not a suicide bomber," he said. "I didn't say I wanted to blow myself up so I could sleep with 72 virgins. All I said was I'm dying to get laid!"

What does the sign say above the nursery in a Palestinian maternity ward? "Live ammunition."

A Palestinian girl says to her mommy, "After Abdul blows up, can I have his room?"

Posted by: illustr8rg8r at June 29, 2006 4:44 PM

Saved the best for last. Gr8!

Posted by: jsla at June 29, 2006 4:54 PM

illustr8rg8r,

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... it's only funny because it is true!

Posted by: habnab at June 29, 2006 4:55 PM

"I rather follow Islam and the Qur’an which provides me with answers for everything in this universe..."
-- from a posting by a Muslim poster above

"Qur'an which provides me with answers for everything in this universe...."

No further questions, Your Honor.

Posted by: Hugh at June 29, 2006 5:08 PM

the only thing that interests me about the muslim troll posting above is how England allowed such an imbecile to settle and get on welfare....

care to let us know, Khalid?

If your illegal: I promise I won't inform immigration....

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at June 29, 2006 5:13 PM

Khalid-

even if one accepted the fact that Hitler was nominally a Christian, his behavior was in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to Christian scripture and the example of the life of Jesus.

However, the behavior of "extremist" Muslims is DIRECTED BY Islamic scripture and the example of the life of Mohammed.

You didn't find Jesus taking sex slaves, having people he disagreed with murdered, marrying prepubescent children, or encouraging his followers to kill and steal.

Mohmammed did all of these things, and encouraged his followers to do the same.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit".

Posted by: treehugger at June 29, 2006 5:16 PM

treehugger-

Don't forget that there is an entire genus of trees that bring forth only nuts.

The Bombus Koranicus, for one.

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 29, 2006 6:23 PM

I'll sum up Islam's contribution to humanity with a question. (I know the answer.)

Why are there no Muslim scientists, chemists, and physicists, such as Dalton, Kelvin, Bernoulli, Boyle, Angstrom, Carnot, Culoumb, Curie, and Faraday?

Posted by: Pelayo at June 29, 2006 6:32 PM

Pelayo, anywhere islam rules is de facto hell, be it on earth or anywhere else.

Posted by: Infidel33 at June 29, 2006 7:06 PM

"Muslim nations urged to create own world court"

"Foxes organize hen house"

Posted by: Chatillon at June 29, 2006 7:14 PM

waleed: you have assumed that the Kuran is truthful in its separation of Muslims and unbelievers.

But suppose the Kuran is WRONG---

Did it ever cross your mind that the Kuran MIGHT be wrong? And if it is, what would that make out of you?

After all, the Kuran ALSO STATES THAT THE WORLD IS FLAT, THAT THERE EXIST TALKING TREES AND TALKING ROCKS, AND SEMEN COMES FROM THE PELVIC BONE, no???? Not a very credible source of info, says we.

As far as anyone knows, this life is ALL any of us ever get. And you blew yours on a ridiculous, contemptible, moronic rag called the 'Glorious Quran.'

Posted by: pythagoras at June 29, 2006 8:22 PM

Why doesn't the brave, oppressed Muslim world just go ahead and declare war on the rest of us?

I, for one, would breathe a sigh of relief.

Posted by: Cato the Elder at June 29, 2006 9:23 PM

It should be noted for all here that Hitler called Christianity the 'Great Lie'.

Posted by: Awakened at June 29, 2006 9:24 PM

"Your days of freedom are countable on the fingers on my hand."

-posted by Khalid bin Waleed, above

I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

perchance?

Posted by: del at June 29, 2006 10:40 PM

The 6th Pillar of Islam: Moslems are perpetual victims.

Imagine 610 AD, even before the Satanic Verses, in the hot streets of Meeca, Mo leveling threats of gloom and doom caravan robbery and murder promised by Allah for everybody but those who would join Mo's brand new club called Islam.

Those who didn't, those who got pissed at being consigned to doom, or gloom, or those angered by the threat of caravan robbery and murder: persecutors.

Who were the persecuted? The poor earnest Moslem trying to bring non-Moslems into the straight and narrow path of Islam. Koran 1:7

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at June 29, 2006 11:06 PM

Their comity would be a comedy.

Posted by: Kafir Nonbeliever at June 29, 2006 11:30 PM

"I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?"

He has four fingers, like a Mohammed cartoon.

Posted by: Television at June 30, 2006 12:21 AM

Khalid, you and your comments are pure gold. Thanx a bunch, buddy. All my previous comments stand,many in the infidel world are not afraid of you and your religion's collection of inbred, first cousin marrying, obscurantist, troglodites.
Most of the converts are abject losers too.

The problem for you guys is Islam. Yes the West is a mess, but damn we got stuff to work with we here, and legacy of greatness to refer back too. You guys got Islam and the Quran LOL. Your diatribes of triumphialist delusions are hilarious. Your Jihadis are ever so brave, always killing the weak and innocent. If the west ever took its current self-imposed shackles off, the ummah and Islam would be crushed. The humiliation would make apostates by the millions. Ever read about World Wars One and Two, the west with its technology still far out guns the Ummah, you haven't won yet. Don't get too cocky, we may still have the ability to indulge in Battle of Stalingrad level of barberity. You vermin carry out another Sept. 11th and the entire Western political system will be delegimized and believe me you probile will not like the replacements and the new attitude towards the Ummah that will follow. Your dime a dozen delsions will come true and you will experience hell on earth and hell in the after life. Keep pushing it and your cities can look like Hamburg,Dresden,Warsaw and Tokyo in 1945. We can carpet bomb the Ummah to the ash-bin of history if we so-elect to. Islam started the war and many kufir would love to bring 1400 yrs. of countinous war to a close.

Posted by: abdulalshirk at June 30, 2006 12:59 AM

I mean look at the strength of the Muslim in Palestine who have no army, just a handful of youths using stones and home made firing equipment are fully taking on the Jewish military might. Yet the Jews with all their power cannot drive the Muslims out. Can you imagine the rest of the Muslims walking in the streets of Europe and America secretly preparing for battle to amputate the infidels from this planet and send them to Hell far away from the Muslims?

Khalid, you have completely missed your own point.

It is not that the Jews cannot drive out the Muslims, but that they do not.

Do you really believe that they are incapable? I don't.

I think you will find in time that the court of public opinion carries less and less weight, and one day the Jews will retaliate at full strength and force. There is a time coming when the Muslims will reap what they have sown. The centuries of murder and rapine and squalor inflicted on both the muslim and non-muslim worlds will be called to account.

If the Jews and other assorted western nations have not visited annihilation upon the Middle East it is not because they can't, but because they have chosen the path of restraint.

This is not weakness. It is not cowardice. It is merely waiting until you act like the grown up nation you claim to be.

There is a lot of anger building in Dar Al Harb, and one day, if you're unlucky, you will find out how that anger is manifested.

Some of us have crossed the line in the sand, but many more have not.

If you keep playing your childish games of kidnap, torture and corruption, you will have to pay for it.

L.Drummond

Posted by: L.Drummond at June 30, 2006 2:31 AM

Khalid,

Hitler was a devote Christian...

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread, Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."
- Adolf Hitler, October 14, 1941

"Christianity is an invention of sick minds: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery ... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease."
- Adolf Hitler, December 13, 1941

The above quotes are from Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944. Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc. 1953

Posted by: Spiny Norman at June 30, 2006 2:35 AM

Actually if there are no Muslims in Hell, I look forward to it...

...apparently if you're an unbeliever you get to inhabit the deepest levels of hell. Since heat rises, if you go low enough it should be quite balmy. Hope they do good margaritas...

Posted by: Animus at June 30, 2006 3:59 AM

Mo goes into a butcher shop:

Butcher: Yes sir?

Mo: Have you got any spider's bums?

Butcher: You mean sheep's bums? Sold out mate. Kebab shop next door bought the lot. You, er, want a doggy bag?

Mo: Oh, no, no. Ermm... Do you have any gnats chaffs?

Butcher: Goats rims? Sorry, the Iranian pizza shop opposite ran out of spicy beef this morning... How about a nice side of pork rump?

Mo: Is it halal?

Butcher: hmmm. Well... tell you what...

He walks over to shop window, pick up a dead fly from the display, takes it over to the sideboard and carefully chops off half the abdomen. Turns back to Mo

Butcher: You can have this for threepence. It drowned in blood, facing east...

Mo looks at it wistfully, scratches his head sheepishly

Mo: Ain't ya got anything smaller?

Posted by: Animus at June 30, 2006 4:46 AM

Khalid,
If Israerl was truly as bad as the Nazis(your old allies) they could crush all Palestinian resistance there in a week or less using max effort. Instead, they let the Paleos breed like rabbits on welfare.

Posted by: Dumbo at June 30, 2006 5:10 AM

ISLAM IS LIKE SYPHILLIS-BRING ON THE MAGIC BULLET...

Posted by: Morgane at June 30, 2006 5:51 AM

To teach people swimming, you should throw them in the pool. I dont necessarily see this as a bad thing. The problem so far is that muslims complain that west forces them to do things the western way. Fine, let them do it their way.

It will prove beyond doubt how inadequate the laws of God are. They might still reinterpret the (alleged) word of God to handle the issues they face, change it altogether and be triumphalistic about laws of God working. But we can still smile to ourselves. :-)

People should read Dune novels by Frank Herbert. They will know the ridiculousness and dangers of immutable laws, be it man made or God given.

And please, dont expect everybody to accept the western way unquestioningly. It is as bad as what Islamists do. We have problems and we can have free debate about it and better the situation. They dont even know what problems they will face. The need to go back to a nostalgic-idealised-past is natural; only that idealised-past never existed and muslims must learn those lessons the hard way.

Posted by: csa bill at June 30, 2006 7:30 AM

Maybe it could be called the "court of hatred, stupidity, death, whine and blame others".....

Posted by: moderationist at June 30, 2006 7:57 AM

No muslims in hell?
Oh boy are you wrong. Mo was visited by Satan himself posing as an angel. Mo told his wife that he was inhabited by a demon, but she (a half brained woman, dontcha know) said it must be god.

You muslims fell for the great lie.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at June 30, 2006 12:46 PM

Khalid, in fact it was Islam that Hitler admired (evil minds think alike, heh?) and considered the best religion for a soldier:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:CIK47hTk8QMJ:www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/+Hitler+and+Islam&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=5&lr=lang_en

Posted by: Polish infideless at June 30, 2006 6:51 PM

boxter,
This is the stuff my good dreams are made of. Sadly, they remain just that.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at July 1, 2006 4:26 AM