Imagine if that war broke out AFTER 9/11. Then again, it's the UN. They still would have made handed historically Serbian Kosovo to the ALBANIANS. That's one thing that's always confused me. Kosovo has always been Serbia, hasn't it? Aren't Kosovo Albanians from ALBANIA? Please clarify

Posted by: Ben-Hur at July 3, 2006 6:58 PM

For killing all those Serbians, he got all of two years. Since 3 years had passed since his trial commenced, he was let off scot free. I felt sick when I read about it. The West is giving up Serbia in the hopes that muslims will be appeased.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at July 3, 2006 10:15 PM

At least he got jail time. Bill Clinton bombs Christians, and he gets off scot free.

Posted by: SCV at July 3, 2006 10:38 PM

Please don't tell me another story of Muslims held to a lower standard.

Totally believable, I will never use the word unbelievable again, until I see a Muslim held to a standard close to what a Christian or Jew would be held to, because that would truly be unbelievable.

This is right off the heels of the Agim Ceku visit to Washington, I don't know about you but with Washington's past record with these guys the timing stinks.

Oh well lets give up some more land for peace, lets face it Kosovo is on borrowed time and it will be given to the Albanians, by this administration or the next. By the way, who the F#@#$ are the Albanians anyway? Are they not Turks left in the area by the Ottomans? They claim they are Illyrian with absolutely no proof of any ties to this ancient people, if anyone can tell please do. These people did not exist in this region before the Ottoman invasions, I'm positive about that.

Niv

Posted by: niv at July 3, 2006 11:23 PM

People that kill animals or pollute get tougher sentences than this. the hague is a farce. Western Leadership is a farce. How can we win a war on terror when our governments and media are complicit. The only way to fight terror is to start at home. All these vile politicians must be put on notice. From Clinton and Blair down. Solana, bush, Albright, arbour. All these swine who are hailed as heros are the benedict arnolds of our generation. They along with their descendants should be marked with the shame they have brought us.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at July 3, 2006 11:30 PM

Treating Milosevic as an enemy was one thing (something that I in retrospect disagree with, even though I opposed him at the time due to the precedent of Slovenia and Croatia). But to continue to treat Belgrade as a pariah, even though Slobodan's political opponents currently run it (do they, still?) defies logic. Serbia should work with Russia and get them to tie any co-operation that the US gets on Iran to cutting off support for the Albanians. And despite my reservations about Moscow's role here, the way I look at this - either oppose Jihad everywhere, or else, support it anywhere.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 4, 2006 12:43 AM

This disgusting sentence proves once again that there is no justice in international courts. There is no international institution that can be trusted to be decent, not the UN, not the special Hague court on Yugoslavia, not the so-called world court in the Hague [ICJ], not the international criminal court set up or to be set up according to the Treaty of Rome. These international bodies are part of the problem, not the solution. That goes for the fake NGOs too. The UN is not legitimate. It has no right to judge any civilized country such as Israel. That goes for fake "human rights" and "peace" organizations.

Keep making noise about this shameful sentence at the Hague. And we still can't trust the official explanation of Milosevic's death.

Posted by: Eliyahu at July 4, 2006 3:09 AM

And we still can't trust the official explanation of Milosevic's death. Posted by: Eliyahu

The main reason I've always questioned the concept of Europe as an ally. If they were, none of this would have been an issue - the Non Aligned Movement is impotent, and there's no way they could have got this through.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 4, 2006 3:31 AM

Naser Oric proudly showed videos to journalists-
Serbs being blown up and burning Serb villages. How come his videos weren't shown at his trial? Nor any video of tortured and murdered Serbs filmed by Muslims??Oh yeah, the Hague Tribunal is impartial ...Sorta bad joke.
As for Alija Izetbegovic, 'the moderate and democratic president of Bosnia', turns out HE WAS IN THE NAZI HANDZAR DIVISION DURING WORLD WAR 2-RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUTCHERY OF SERBS AND MINORITIES IN YUGOSLAVIA. No wonder, Clinton & his NATO friends were glad Ally died in 2003 before the Investigation into IZETBEGOVIC'S WAR CRIMES went public.
Reckon Serbia & Republika Srpska should turn their backs on Dhimmi Europe.The stronger Russia gets and its gas & oil are booming, the more influence
it has and can offer support & protection to this small yet brave and certainly fighting Slav country. Long Live Serbia!

Posted by: Morgane at July 4, 2006 5:27 AM

A UN humanitarian charity was collecting at my local plaza yesterday.

I was very tempted to approach the collectors and ask if any non-muslims fit their definition of human.

*spit*

Posted by: Mike_W at July 4, 2006 5:30 AM

Morgane refers to the Handschar SS division recruited among Bosnian Muslims with the major help of Haj Amin al-Husseini, British-appointed mufti of Jerusalem. It was of course notorious for atrocities. Handschar is a German spelling, Handzar is Slavic, Khanjar is a transliteration from Arabic, I believe. The khanjar is a short Muslim sword.

I think that Morgane's confidence in Russia is misplaced and will be disappointed.

Posted by: Eliyahu at July 4, 2006 10:40 AM

the UN is totaly biased and anti Serb(orthodox). How come war crimminals who where croatian and bosnian or albanian in yugoslavia are treated as heros by the west and UN.

The war on terror is a joke and a complete failure how can you say theres a war on terror but then invite terrorist to washington Bush and the US congress are hypocrites and liars There needs to be a Real War on terror not this crap with Bush saying his fighting war on terror but goes around inviting Albanian and chechen terrorist to Washington for Talks American Goverment has to stop using those Albanians and chechens muslims for there agenda of breaking up russia and yugoslvia at the moment the US goverment is acting no better who ever supports muslims terrorist is worse then they are.

Posted by: Greek Gurl at July 4, 2006 9:06 PM

"A UN humanitarian charity was collecting at my local plaza yesterday.

I was very tempted to approach the collectors and ask if any non-muslims fit their definition of human.

*spit*

Posted by: Mike_W"

Mike that reminds me just after the Kosovo genocide of serbs a women in my office walked around trying to get donations for the refugees. I asked if any money was going to the serbs. When she said no I refused to give any money to a racist like her. She said nothing and left me alone. I find these brain dead leftists are cowards when they are alone. Fight fire with fire.

Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at July 5, 2006 9:51 AM

Hello InfidelPride,

Sir, I hope I can clear up some confusion here concerning your comment about Milosevic:
"...I opposed him at the time due to the precedent of Slovenia and Croatia."

Milosevic was the president of the Republic of **Serbia** at the time (June 1991) of the forced breakup of the existing **Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia** caused by the Washington-backed (Bush Snr) unilateral secessions of the Republics of Croatia & Slovenia.

The then existing **Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia** was run by a ROTATING collective presidency - whose presidential chair in June 1991 was occupied by a CROAT - Mr. Stipe Mesic- and the **SFRY federation Prime Minister** in June 1991 was also a CROAT by the name of Mr.Ante Markovic, also Croats at the very highest levels of the SFRY federation were the Minister of Defense, Veljko Kadijevic, the foreign affairs minister, Budimir Loncar, et al.

So we have the supreme command positions in the SFRY federation ALL being NON-Serbs: the head of the SFRY Federal Army, the SFRY Yugoslav State President, the SFRY Yugoslav Prime Minister,the SFRY Yugoslav Foreign Minister - ALL being Croats: Veljko Kadijevic,Stipe Mesic, Ante Markovic, Budimir Loncar. Not only that but the head of the SFRY air force and navy were also NON-Serbs: a Croat and a Slovenian.

When the unilateral secessionist republics of Croatia and Slovenia were ILLEGALLY recognized by the European Community (now the EU) in January 1992 - because of the fait accompli forced unilateral recognitions by Germany and the Vatican - no troops from Serbia & Montenegro
(later renamed simply the "Federal Republic of Yugoslavia"-hence the confusion)- attacked Croatia or Bosnia at all.

See ex-Canadian Ambassador to the SFRY at the time of its forced breakup in June 1991, Mr. James Bissett's article, in the Canadian National Post, entitled: "ScapeGoat,R.I.P." available at:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/issuesideas/story.html?id=a629cdda-eb4b-44a6-a2bc-0002b0ec2f0e

Here is what Mr. James Bissett wrote in his article:
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"But it was not the Serbians and "Slobo" who started the wars in Yugoslavia. The fighting started because Slovenia, then a Yugoslav republic, declared unilateral independence and used force to seize customs posts along the Austrian border.

The federal prime minister of Yugoslavia, Ante Markovic, who happened to be a Croatian, ordered the army into Slovenia to restore order. The army was met by armed resistance and retired to barracks in Croatia to avoid further bloodshed. The Croatian security and paramilitary forces then surrounded the federal barracks and fighting broke out in Croatia. At this time, Milosevic, as president of Serbia, had no control over the federal army. (Incidentally, the federal minister of defence at the time was also a Croatian, as was the foreign minister.)"
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Yet Croatia had over 40,000 of its REGULAR army troops (not counting paramilitaries) in Bosnia Herzegovina but was NEVER condemned or punished by UN sanctions - another weapon of choice for NATO's deliberate genocide against countries which refuse to be dictated to by the Globalist elite in Washington and Brussels.

See

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/
Genocide.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/
Dec3192-2.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/
Dec3192.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/
Jan3193.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Balkanindex.htm
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As far as the Bosnian SDA Islamist Nazi warlord, Mr. Naser Oric is concerned, here is what I wrote recently to a British newspaper:

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After 11 years the NATO owned ICTY at The Hague has failed to produce a shred of evidence to support the charge that Mladic and/or Karadzic ordered the execution of 8,000 of the late Alija Izetbegovic's troops. For example, the overwhelming majority of bodies examined have NOT been identified as Bosnian muslims (see http://www.srebrenica-report.com and http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm).

Even the Izetbegovic SDA Bosnian Islamists admit that 5,000 of their troops made it safely to the town of Tuzla through Izetbegovic's SDA held "Bosniak" Islamist lines - troops who were later on re-incorporated into Izetbegovic's "Bosniak" army. Add to this the approximately 3,000 of Izetbegovic's troops who according to the Red Cross also left the area WITHOUT their families being informed, and you discover how they came up with the figure of 8,000 supposedly executed.

See:
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/pumphrey/Srebrenica.html

http://www.srebrenica-report.com/defense.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/refutat.htm

This alleged moral equivalence between Mladic and Oric is WRONG. Mladic's guilt for the alleged execution of 8,000 of Izetbegovic's troops has not been PROVEN with any documented evidence by NATO - all we have is ASSERTIONS made by the NATO-owned ICTY. Simultaneously we have the documented massacres of 3,870 Serbian civilians by Oric from 1992 to 1995 - which has been confirmed by UN officials and blue helmet "peacekeepers" on the ground at the time -such as French UN general Phillipe Morillon in testimony under oath at the late Milosevic's "trial" by NATO's ICTY.

Oric's massacres of 3,800+ Serbian civilians have NOT been specifically denied by NATO, NATO's ICTY or the UN itself, but have simply been whitewashed and COVERED UP.

Oric was a cold blooded killer who BOASTED to reporters of the Washington Post and Toronto Star about how he murdered Serbian CIVILIANS - elderly men, women and children - mostly by cracking skulls with iron bars & sledgehammers, as well as beheading & dismemberment with axes,knives, daggers and machetes. See

http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/oric.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/gorazde.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts2.htm

http://slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg030904.htm

All of this has been rigorously documented in official United Nations documents A/48/177, S/25835 and A/47/813, S/24991 describing the hideous murders and rapes of Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica and other nearby Bosnian towns and villages - available at:

http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm

http://www.srebrenica-report.com/docs/UN-1993-1.pdf

The UN document A/47/813, S/24991 on rape by Bosnian Muslim & Croat forces in Bosnia in 1992 can be read at: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/rapes/raped-serbs.html

Regards,

Peter Robert North.

PS: The Srebrenica Hoax was a Cover Up for Clinton's support of Alija Izetbegovic: a fanatical Al Qaeda Islamist Jihad supporter and close friend of Osama bin Laden and KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL Naser Oric [to top it all off, the terrorist KLA leader was Agim Ceku - also a KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL -who worked with the brother of Osama bin Laden's #2 man, Dr. Ayman Al Zawahiri - also another Al Qaeda fanatic supported by Clinton and NATO]

http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2005/12/exposing-sbs-bias-censorship-hypocrisy.html
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"...Holbrooke, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and the Clinton White House all played key rôles in supporting the Islamists who, as it transpired, were consistently working with al-Qaida and the Iranian Government, among others, in planning major terrorist attacks on the US. Amb. Hays worked closely with Mr Holbrooke in the UN during this period. As a result, it was now seen as important that this pattern of support for people who were later seen to be involved in terrorist actions against the US should not be allowed to emerge, particularly in the build-up to the elections, which were regarded as being critical to Sen. Hillary Clinton and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander-Europe (SACEUR) Gen. Clark."

International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: October 20, 2003.

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm

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International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: The New Rome & The New Religious Wars, March 1999.

"Little wonder that numerous US policy analysts, even
those who are hostile to Yugoslavia as a basic stance,
are extremely uncomfortable with the Clinton
Administration's close ties with the KLA.

"There is no doubt that the involvement of the two
brothers al-Zawahiri in the two movements is not
coincidental. Ben Works, director of the Strategic
Research Institute of the US, noted: "There's no doubt
that bin Laden's people have been in Kosovo helping to
arm, equip and train the KLA. . . . The [US]
Administration's policy in Kosovo is to help bin
Laden. It almost seems as if the Clinton
Administration's policy is to guarantee more
terrorism."

"Noted strategic analyst and columnist, former US Army
Colonel Harry Summers, said on August 12, 1998, that
in Kosovo, the US found itself "championing the very
Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups who are our
mortal enemies elsewhere".

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm

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For more evidence of the above concerning the true character of the late Alija Izetbegovic - that of a pro-Islamist Jihad/al Qaeda radical Islamist fundamentalist Nazi - as well as further details on what really happened in Kosovo and Srebrenica, see:

http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija1.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija2.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija3.htm

http://www.srebrenica-report.com
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/freezer1.htm

http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/fr033199.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/guide-yugo.htm

http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ranta.htm

http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/kosovo.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0703.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1703.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1903.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1503.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0903.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1603.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jun1503.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep0803.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Aug3193.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Genocide.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Dec3192-2.htm

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm

http://www.espritdecorps.ca/new_page_220.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO310B.html

http://michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?
context=viewArticle&code=MOS20050803&articleId=795

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HER20051229&articleId=1667

http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm

http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg-sreb101604.htm

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/documents/srebrenica.pdf

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ex-Clinton 'peace envoy' Richard Holbrooke- beneficiary of KLA Narco Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia - gets president of Hague ICTY to free ex-Kosovo PM and KLA war criminal, Ramush Haradinaj, IN ADVANCE of his "surrender" to The Hague ICTY: "a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."

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US Policy in the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean: Time to Stop Choosing Sides, and to Start Choosing Strategic Interests

By Gregory R. Copley,

President, the International Strategic Studies Association.[1]

Presented at the Capitol Hill Conference on

FYROM: The Need for Reassessment of US Policy in the Balkans.

Longworth House of Representatives Office Building,

Washington, DC: April 14, 2005

"The fact that the KLA leader and, until March 8, 2005, Prime Minister of Kosovo, Ramush (Hilmi) Haradinaj, was indicted for war crimes and taken to The Hague for trial still has not penetrated the consciousness of what is transpiring. Moreover, in order to somewhat ease the embarrassment of having backed the wrong side — the side of al-Qaida, the narco-traffickers, the true genocidal xenophobists, and the criminal gangs — in Kosovo, the US is in some ways actively working to let Mr Haradinaj out of prison, so that he can “fight his legal battle from a position of freedom”.

"This is a man charged with having directly and personally killed many innocent people, not a politician who allegedly allowed things to happen by default. The scandal of this particular case has yet to break, but suffice it to say that Albanian mafia linked to the KLA have worked through former US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke — a close associate of the KLA and a beneficiary of its support — to approach the US President of the International Criminal Tribunal on the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), Theodore Meron, to see Haradinaj released.[4] There are reports from within the ICTY that the State Department would approve the release of Haradinaj, and had, in fact, agreed with Haradinaj in advance of his surrender to the ICTY, that a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."

4] Meron, a professor of law at New York University, was a member of the US official delegation to the Rome talks in 1998, at which the establishment of the International Criminal Court (ICC) was discussed. At that conference, he reflected the US line, which was in complete opposition to the foundation of the ICC, but subsequently accepted to be President of the ICC’s subsidiary court, the ICTY.

http://www.macedoniansincanada.com/Grecory%20R.%20Copley.htm

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http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html

"In 1999, the KLA unit under Ramush Haradinaj's command killed 40 civilians from the Kosovo village of Glodjani and threw the bodies into the Radonjic Lake canal."

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Now the United Nations is investigating him after a shooting incident, an investigation which the US has tried to interfere with. Here are the facts:
In June, 1999, Ramush ordered the killing of four members of FARK (Armed Forces of the Republic of Kosovo), a rival group to the KLA. As is Albanian custom, the brothers of one dead man went to the father of Ramush to ask for their brother’s bones. Ramush later that night went to the brothers, of the Musaj family, where a shooting incident took place.

Ramush was helicoptered to the US base in Kosovo, Camp Bondsteel and then to a United States military hospital in Germany to receive treatment. He is at present in Washington, the guest of congressman Benjamin Gillman, raising funds for his political party before next October’s elections in Kosovo.

United Nations investigators into this incident claim that while Ramush was away, United States officials left Bondsteel, went to the village of Strellic, where the incident took place, and removed forensic evidence that Ramush had been present, including the act of taking bullets from walls.

United Nations police reports link Ramush to two well-known Albanian Mafia men, Naser Kelmendi and Ekrem Lluka. Lluka is suspected by UN police of being involved actively in the trafficking of drugs in Kosovo, Greece, Italy and Albania.

British military sources, who asked to remain unnamed, classified Ramush as “a psychopath”.

“Someone would pass him information and he would disappear for two hours. The result would be several bodies in a ditch”.

http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html (Photographs and excerpts from article on details of atrocities against Kosovo Serbs perpetrated by US/UK ally KLA commander & ex-Kosovo Prime Minister, Ramush Haradinaj)

" At the end of 1999 the chief prosecutor of the Hague tribunal, Carla del Ponte, announced that an investigation had been started regarding war crimes against the non-Albanian population in Kosovo. The investigation was almost completely blocked until recently because information was not forthcoming from either side, the spokeswoman of the prosecutor's office of the Hague tribunal, Florence Hartmann (Florence Hartmann-Domankusic), told "Reporter".

The new government in Serbia, according to Hartmann, has submitted all documentation to The Hague. "Indictments will be issued only against those persons against whom we have evidence," she explained. Zoran Zivkovic, the Yugoslav minister of internal affairs, told "Reporter" that "more than 30 kilograms of various documents were turned over to the head of the office of the Hague tribunal in Belgrade." In the meanwhile, the investigators of this tribunal have collected about 80 testimonials from family members of the missing and witnesses.

Despite increasingly frequent public discussion (in Serbia) that Agim Cheku, Hashim Thaci and Ramush Haradinaj are under investigation by the Hague tribunal, Hartmann said that "the investigation is in progress", however, she added that she "never confirmed that these three men are under investigation."

Posted by: Peter Robert at July 8, 2006 11:19 AM