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Sadiq Khan indulges in the blame game, suggesting that the British brought the July 7 attacks upon themselves by treating Muslims so badly. It doesn't seem to occur to him that one of the best lessons of 7/7 might be that Muslims in Britain need to demonstrate their loyalty more energetically, and work harder to root out the jihadists among them.
From the BBC, with thanks to JE:
Ministers are facing criticism over the response to the 7 July bombings from one of their most prominent Muslim MPs.In the week of the first anniversary of the attacks, Sadiq Khan says he is disappointed with efforts to engage with the Muslim community.
The MP for Tooting says there is an air of despondency over the achievements of the special taskforce set up by the government after the bombings....
Seven Muslim working groups were set up by the government and they reported in November.
But Mr Khan told a Fabian Society conference that only three of their recommendations had been implemented.
In his speech he said: "What has happened to all the good ideas? Why hasn't an action plan been drawn up with timelines?
"There has been limited progress but there is an air of despondency. Only three recommendations have been implemented, and group members feel let down.
"I worry that the government might become the Duke of York - marching all these talented British Muslims up the hill of consultation and dialogue, only to march them down again as very little appears to have changed."
A Home Office spokesman said much had been accomplished since the Preventing Extremism Together (PET) Working Group members had made their final report.
And Mr Woolas, a local government minister, told the BBC: "This is ongoing, this is not a one off.
"This is a huge task and our biggest allies in this task are the Muslim communities themselves, the vast majority of whom want to see an end to extremism just as much as you or I do."
If that is true, why has there been so little progress? Is it really all the government's fault in this case?
He added: "What we can't do as a government is tell the Muslim community what it is they have to do - we have to work with them and MPs, such as Sadiq Khan."
And yet they're just sitting back and telling the government it isn't doing enough.
He said there were 64 recommendations, and only 27 of those were for the government - the rest were for partnerships and communities.Successes
"Of course I know full well that there are many youngsters who feel alienated from mainstream society and they search for their identity as British Muslims," he said.
"But the government has been saying for many years that we think the likelihood of extremism and terrorism is a certainty, if not a probability and we have to take this issue as a society very importantly indeed and that's why the government has refocused its strategy into communities."
The government has highlighted some of the successes, including:
* the scholars roadshow, in which 18 influential Muslim scholars and thinkers have spoken to audiences of young Muslims, numbering 30,000 so far
* the mosques and imams national advisory board has formed a steering group and plans to launch on 27 June
* national forums on islamophobia and extremism began in Leicester and more are due in Redbridge and Dudley
* government-funded workshops and video outreach projects
* a consultation on stop-and-search policing
* work on countering religious extremism on campuses
I doubt that any of this confronts and combats the jihad ideology.
Mr Woolas spoke out as a Populas survey for The Times and ITV News suggested that 13% of British Muslims think the men who carried the 7 July bombings in London should be regarded as "martyrs".It also suggested that 7% agreed that suicide attacks on UK civilians can be justified in some circumstances and 16% said while the attacks may have been wrong the cause was right.
Some 2% suggested they would be proud if a family member decided to join al-Qaeda, while 16% would be "indifferent".
Meanwhile, also speaking at the Fabian Society conference, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain urged people to stop focusing on the 7 July and 11 September attacks.
Muhammad Abdul Bari said that did not help in addressing problems within the Muslim community.
Yes, we bombed you, but never mind. Give us money.
"It is time we get out of this discourse. We should not lose sight of the real issues of society... like foreign policy and the need for positive integration," he said.
How can there be positive integration when the Muslim community itself resists it?
Posted by Robert at July 4, 2006 5:39 AM
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The UK Muslim community NEEDS to also heed that July 7th attacks in that IT must accept RESPONSIBILITY. What part of that word do they not get?
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at July 4, 2006 6:30 AM
When I read the headline "Heed the July 7 lessons - Muslim MP", I thought for a split second that the Muslim MP was urging Muslims not to blow up innocent people.
Then I checked today's date. No, April 1st was a while ago.
Posted by: Interested at July 4, 2006 6:41 AM
the likelihood of extremism and terrorism is a certainty, if not a probability
I wonder if he's a betting man.
Posted by: Interested at July 4, 2006 6:44 AM
The 'foreign policy' cop out is getting really old.
Posted by: Mr Krabs at July 4, 2006 7:59 AM
Is it any wonder that British muslims,,let alone other muslims,,are getting a bad wrap?
Are they lemmings? They bring all this on themselves and then blame us for calling them muslim terrorists!
Many freely admit they hate western culture and want to destroy it.
When will they see the role they are playing in this situation? Never.
Right now I think they are playing a big part in their own,,,,hopeful, I know,,, downfall!
Posted by: Gramfan at July 4, 2006 8:47 AM
When Muslims were protesting outside the Danish Embassy on Sloane Street, someone with a loudspeaker said 'Take lessons from Theo Van Gogh, take lessons from the Jews of Khaibar'.
He meant it as a threat. What this Sadiq Khan is saying, doesn't seem that different.
at July 4, 2006 10:10 AM
You'll be glad to know that the vast majority of comments on this story at the BBC website agree with you - ie it's not OUR problem, it's that of the muslim "community".
at July 4, 2006 10:38 AM
From CNN, a poll of Muslims in Britain:
*More than half of those polled -- 56 percent -- thought the government should do more to combat extremism within the Muslim community, although they were divided on how that should be done.
*Forty-eight percent felt the intelligence services had the right to infiltrate Muslim organizations to gather information, while 47 percent disagreed.
*Seventy-nine percent of respondents said their community had experienced hostility since the attacks. However, almost two-thirds -- 65 percent -- of respondents said the Muslim community needed to do more to integrate with the rest of society.
There are definitely two stories going on at the same time. It seems to me the majority of the Muslim population in Britain would in fact stand down if there was a real crackdown and deportation of the Jihadi element. Eventually, it will come, because eventually there will be another attack; the number of plots is clearly beyond what the police can control.
The Israelis have long known, you have to step on these peoples' necks. The British should at the end, when they fully awaken from their slumber, crush without mercy or quarter this hostile element within. It seems to me from the ambiguous polls that a large number of Muslims in Britain ARE in fact "British" Muslims, in fact they are not very good Muslims at all. I have been presented the question, "will your grandchildren be Jewish". I think it is a valid question, will these assimilated people's grandchildren be Muslims, and if so, will they be likely to fall back into the hateful Jihadist ranks, as participants or sympathizers, or will they finally begin some sort of radical reconstruction of their religion (if that can be done at all) or simply leave it. I think the latter is the likely case.
However, this optimistic scenario will never come about if the Brits pussyfoot about with abandoning St. George and kowtow to the loudmouthed, violent radical set, out of fear or fear masquerading as tolerance (i.e. multiculturalism). If they stand firm, make the right sacrifices (or should I say force the sacrifices onto their Muslim minority) this terrible situation WILL recede into the past. The rest of Europe is in similar straits, and will likely go along with the direction the British choose, though their problems are more or less severe depending on the demographic situation, which is only really dire in France, at least yet.
Posted by: Quijybo at July 4, 2006 10:48 AM
Integration is far too vague, and does not properly define the issue. And how can one expect complete honesty in polling when the target group is highly suspicious of the potential reactions of the larger audience? Not to mention that there exist religious injunctions like, 'war is deceit' in scriptural sources accepted by the target group and that the poll asks questions related to war. Once again the wrong questions are being asked and the polling methodology is horribly flawed.
Here are a few suggestions:
1. Do you think Muslims should work to establish Sharia law in Britain?
2. Do you think non-Muslims should be granted moral and political rights equal to those of Muslims in Muslim countries?
3. Do you think the laws of a just state should allow free and open criticism of Islam?
4. Do you think the laws of a just state should allow free and open criticism of the founder of the Islamic religion?
5. Do you think that Islam obliges Muslims to allow free and open criticism of Islam?
6. Do you think Islam obliges Muslims to allow free and open criticism of the founder of the Islamic religion?
7. Do you think that in an Islamic state it should be required by law that Muslims treat all non-Muslims as political equals regardless of their religous and political views?
Posted by: JTF at July 4, 2006 12:07 PM
Questionnaires will become increasingly worthless as taqiyya becomes more widespread. There's no point in screening Muslims for... what exactly? To see how un-Muslim they are? We don't know which of them are going to lie and which may not lie, so questionnaires are useless.
Best will be the day we simply need to determine one thing: is this person a Muslim or not?
Posted by: Television at July 4, 2006 1:31 PM
Keep 'em distracted while you go for their wallet.
Classic pickpocket tricks.
Dazzle them with bullsh*t until you have the numbers to simply takeover via ballots.
I thought England had some of Churchill's blood still running in its multiculturally-diluted veins.
How many more guests (infil-traitor invaders) will it take to render this "we will fight them on the landing grounds, we will fight them on the beaches" antibody too weak to react?
A million? Two?
The Londonistan Express races onward...
Posted by: profitsbeard at July 4, 2006 2:03 PM
'Sadiq Khan says he is disappointed with efforts to engage with the muslim community'
Dear God, I wish we would all start engaging with the muslim community right away. Only I don't think it would be quite what Mr Khan has in mind.
Posted by: enemyofislam at July 4, 2006 6:48 PM
What an arrogant Shit this Sidiq Khan is. In other words-IF YOU DON'T SHUT UP AND PAY US JIZYA
LIKE GOOD DHIMMIS-WE'LL BOMB YOU OR WORSE...
Is there not one Briton with the guts to stand up and say that this isn't a problem with Hindus,Jews,Jains,Buddhists,Christians,New Age Religions,Atheists or Agnostics.ONLY MUSLIMS.AND THIS IS A MUSLIM PROBLEM THEY'D BETTER SORT OUT SOON
BECAUSE PATIENCE OF REST OF POPULATION IS RUNNING OUT...tIME TO TELL MUSLIMS-EITHER SHAPE UP OR YOU'LL BE SHIPPED OUT.
at July 4, 2006 8:53 PM
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