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Sheikh Qaradawi, of course. "Taxpayers fund radical Muslim cleric's Turkey trip," from the Daily Mail, with thanks to PK:
British taxpayers paid for a Muslim cleric who has defended suicide bombers to attend a conference on Islam in Turkey, it has emerged.The Government paid for Yusuf al-Qaradawi and his wife to fly from their home in Qatar to Istanbul for the two-day event, and for their accommodation in a five-star hotel.
The 80-year-old cleric was the focus of furious protests in 2004 when he visited Britain as a guest of London mayor Ken Livingstone.
He is considered the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, a militant group with offshoots around the world which acts as the ideological engine room of Islamist extremism.
Mr al-Qaradawi, who has also called for the execution of homosexuals and opposed equal rights for women, addressed the opening day of the £300,000 conference.
He has defended Palestinian suicide bombers who attack Israel as "a weapon which the weak resort to".
He was invited to speak by a steering group that included Sir Iqbal Sacranie, the former head of the Muslim Council of Britain.
The Foreign Office confirmed that it had covered Mr Qaradawi's expenses as part of its support for the conference, which took place earlier this month....
A spokesman for the FCO defended the decision to pay for Mr Qaradawi to attend the conference: "It is our view that you have got to engage in discussion with individuals with whom you don't necessarily agree."
Great. In that case, I'm sure you fellows must have some money for the anti-jihad resistance as well. Contact me at director@jihadwatch.org, and I'll tell you where to send the check.
Posted by Robert at July 14, 2006 7:10 AM
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LOL!
I just ordered a pair of seat-belts for my computer-chair so I don't go through the roof!
Un-f*#*ing- believable!!!
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at July 14, 2006 7:23 AM
Cherie Blair also supported palestinian suicide bombers.
Posted by: Voltaire
at July 14, 2006 7:26 AM
Whatever happens to the UK from no on, she deserves it.
Posted by: Elric66
at July 14, 2006 7:53 AM
If ever there was a case for banning someone from the UK under the Immigration Act 1971 this is it. Worse the Farrakhan and he was banned in 2002. That said we could always arrest him for war crimes Pinochet style! On yes, no one has a backbone here. Silly idea.
Posted by: TubeRider
at July 14, 2006 7:58 AM
The Government paid for Yusuf al-Qaradawi and his wife to fly from their home in Qatar to Istanbul for the two-day event, and for their accommodation in a five-star hotel. - above
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I wonder which lucky wife got to go. The one who is younger than his granddaughter perhaps.
I believe they cast lots in these situations to decide who gets to accompany the lord and master. I would have thought that was a form of gambling, but then what do I know, being an infidel.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/004662.php
at July 14, 2006 8:13 AM
It's getting embarassing. Blair has a rosy tinted view of 'peaceful' Islam and is afraid of the likes of Georgr Galloway stealing his Muslim voters because of his Iraq war policy. His post 7/7 Muslim working groups, set up to counter-act radicalism among young Mohammedan males advised, among other things, a 'roadshow' of imams and scholars to tour the country speaking to them. In order to gain credibility with them, the working party said that the group should include hardliners like Qaradawi. It looks like the government is having a hard time swallowing this but if the Muslims tell them it will work then they'll go along with it (it won't work, of course).
It's probable that these people are working by analogy with their dealings with the IRA: Northern Ireland might be a bizarre mess at the moment but at least they've stopped killing people.This they put down to laying aside their aversion to talking to murderers. Unfortunately, the IRA merely had a nasty habit of mythologising and romanticising violence - ultimately they were sane. With Islam the violence has a divinely ordained sanctity and is not amenable to any rational argument, except that of force and coercion.
at July 14, 2006 8:18 AM
Totally outrageous! They Brits would only pay airfare for one wife! Somebody call CAIR quick! This slight against Islam will not go unpunished.
Posted by: JanuaryMan
at July 14, 2006 8:32 AM
I feel vindicated avoiding all my tax obligations now...lol
Posted by: eloivsdiablo
at July 14, 2006 8:41 AM
The people who associate themselves are the same in moral values to those who rounded up the Jews in Vichy France. Should there be a warming up in Britain's internal relations I hope that the human rights lawyers and leftist politicians will be the first to decorate the lampposts.
I can't imagine Cherie looking even more horrific without her hair.
at July 14, 2006 9:17 AM
Why five-star for god's sake? Why Four Seasons (in which the Saudis now have a big stake) or Ritz-Carlton (who knows? or was it the Cihangir Palace (Kempinski, German money)? Surely an ascetic cleric, his mind on higher things, the Highest Thing of All, pays no attention to such things as whether or not there is a Jacuzzi in each of the bathrooms in the suite, or whether the view of the Bosphorus (for the Ciragan) or the Hippodrome or Hagia Sophia meets his expectations.
Al-Qaradawi is a cleric. Surely he would rather see the money of British taxpayers spent not on providing him with an all-expenses-paid trip including a five-star hotel, but on alms for the poor. Surely he asked to be put in Movenpick, or still better, a no-name lodging-house already full of True Believers rather than Infidels, as normaly are the Ritz and the Four Seasons and the Cihangir Palace. Surely.
Posted by: Hugh
at July 14, 2006 11:02 AM
Well this kind of news really shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. It's not exactly as if Blair, his wife or any other Labour member could really be considered bastions of morality. They're more interested in lining their pockets with as much gold as they can, in every politically (or rather Islamo-friendly) correct way possible. I mean one of Blair's closest friends in labour has only in the last two days been implicated in a scandal involving cash for peerages. And then there is dear old Cherie, the so-called top Human Rights Lawyer. She will be representing a British couple who built a house on land in the occupied part of Cyprus, despite knowing that it was stolen from Greek Cypriots. These Cypriot refugees are suing the British couple and Cherie Blair will be representing the British couple in the UK High Court. So much for the belief in Human Rights eh? But then rumour that Cherie has spent thousands of pounds of taxpayers money on a haircut. Didn't do her any good I'm afraid, but if money can be earned and spent in the kind of ways that the Blairs and their allies do, then why not splash out some of the taxpayers money on Islamic fundamentalists - all to show how in tune you are with Muslim's wishes and feelings.
Posted by: Je m'en vais
at July 14, 2006 11:31 AM
Cherie has spent thousands of pounds of taxpayers money on a haircut. Didn't do her any good
I know this isn't the most important or relevant point made on this thread, but how right you are.
What would her hair look like if she didn't spend money on it? Would it look like this?
WARNING: HAIR-RAISING EXPERIENCE!
Posted by: Interested
at July 14, 2006 11:42 AM
I respect your having an opinion Elric66, but just for the record, screw you. How the F*** you can justify that attitude is unbelievable. If you want to have a pop at Britain, take it up with the simpering lefty/liberals that have brought my nation to this sorry state. Or are you happy subscribing to the same philosophy that preaches the US was thoroughly deserving of 9/11?. Bollocks to that.
You want to say something?, then how about showing some support for the majority of proud Brits that are fed up being told how to live so as not to offend the poor little, hard done by Muslim minority. Incidentally, screw them too. They want to live by the rules of my society, then fine, if they don't then they can just piss off back to wherever they came from, it's as easy as that.
The only reason this government has gotten away with feeding us this crap so far, is because there isn't one single candidate in opposition that has the political strength of character to oust them. Until we see another Margaret Thatcher or her like again, the government of this country will be nothing more than cowardly appeasers, forever bending over and taking it up the arse in the name of "Multiculturalism".
Blame it on the spineless politicians and their cronies if you wish, but don't blame it on the people, and certainly don't sit there and spew the notion that it's fine that British citizens be killed and mutilated by terrorist actions just because of the cowardice of our government.
I couldn't give a s**t about US governmental policy, or whether I agree or disagree with it in the face of comments like that. I DO give a s**t the size of Afghanistan that American citizens be allowed to live in peace, free from the threat of terrorist atrocity, so they can go about their lives with the same freedoms I and my countrymen are no less entitled to.
Like it or not Elric66, unless you're a bloody Islamist, then we're on the same side here. So either show a little support or piss off and see how well your "we've got leftist/liberal apeasers so we deserve all we get" philosophy goes with your average, freedom loving US citizen. Let's face it, Britain isn't the only nation where blind to realty idiots get a forum is it?.
at July 14, 2006 1:45 PM
"His exclusion could jeapordize support from mainstream Muslims."
...And his inclusion could generate support for the jihad.
Heads they win, tails you lose.
Posted by: scaramouoche
at July 14, 2006 1:50 PM
"His exclusion could jeapordize support from mainstream Muslims."
...And his inclusion could generate support for the jihad.
Heads they win, tails you lose.
Posted by: scaramouoche
at July 14, 2006 1:50 PM
BTW, it wasn't islam that was the cause of 7/7.
http://www.sundayherald.com/56589
at July 14, 2006 6:26 PM
I'm gobsmacked!
Qaradawi doesn't even live here and he gets to go first class at our expense?
Old age pensioners and disabled people have a hard time getting money from the government - and the majority have worked, paid their taxes and national insurance all their lives.
When will the people of the UK get out on the streets to protest this idiocy?
What will the FO get up to next? Will they be using the taxpayers money to support jihadists in any remote corner of the world?
Posted by: Jerusalem Posts
at July 14, 2006 7:16 PM
When are the Britts going to wise up and crush these infiltrators?
Britts Hell,when is the world going to wise up and do what will have to be done? We all know that the only way to ever have peace with the moslems is to absolutly crush their will to fight. This is the ONLY way to beat moslems, they are "honor-bound" to lie to any kaffir so a treaty with them isn't worth the paper its written on as they'll never follow it.
We're going to have to do the unthinkable with these islamofascist idioots, I think everyone knows what that is.
The gloves must come off, revealing the brass knuckles underneath.
Organizations such as CAIR, ACLU, and any other terrorist/islamofascist enabler (can you say the New York Times?) must be dealt with in the most harsh manner.
I mean, the MSM is (dare I say) complicit in everything done by the islamofascists. They're mostly covering inanities today while the Israelis are doing what needs to be done and taking the fight to the paleosimians instead of waiting for them to bring the war to israel, AGAIN.
Duty, Honor, Country
(in THAT order)
Rowane
at July 14, 2006 8:17 PM
As an American I wipe my hands clean of any affinity for Britian,what a vile stupid country. One that is every bit as rancid as France. From here on out they get anything they deserve from the Islamist. To the next 7/7 all I can say is whatever, the wages of sin are death.If a society has no will to defend itself and is so rotten and corrupt as this it has no future. Good night and good luck enjoy the bitter fruit of marxism,multiculturalism and moral relativism.The British public is too-busy with drinking,soccer and fornicating to do anything. And your leaders, religious and secular are a collection of moribund, platitude mouthing,totalitarian, psysopaths.Mark Steyn was right sometime ago when he compared Anglicanism and by extention England to a gelding. Contra other posters, I have very little optimism and faith in the West,that the West will rise, except perhaps the Americans and maybe Australia. Nothing will save it short of uprisings againest the current order along the lines of the Bolshivik revolution in Russia.And who is going to rise up? The ever aging natives? Is a ever graying population of pension collectors going to do anything, beside whine for cheaper prescription drugs? Probile not!!! On what basis would the young, ill-educated and delightfully stupid as they are going to rise up? Fight Islam with what,the mawkish p.c. crap they have been lead to wallow in? The kind of garbage that drives me from church. England should make Arabic and the Quran manditory in its schools, you know to get a functional head start for the future.
I am truly sorry if have offended anyone but after reading this story and other of a similar nature and hearing so much ($%^*#@! BBC) British anti-Americanism I had to put my two cents in.I am being provactive, perhaps on purpose.i am sick of British condescention that we are all bunch of stupid,obscurtantist hicks here. The toxic condescension filling such media as BBC's letter from America. Britian ever so condesending and self righteous can b*&^%# off.
Hopefully we Americans can learn the right lessons from the Europeans failures and wake up and do what needs doing.
Posted by: abdulalshirk
at July 15, 2006 1:44 AM
Hey!- I've thought of a new game - let's all insult each other's countries. I'm sure there's hours of endless fun to be had.
Posted by: wallyUK
at July 15, 2006 3:06 AM
This takes dhimmification to a completely new level. This scumbag is an originates from Egypt and lives in Qatar, and yet somehow or other the BRITISH taxpayer has to fork out for his travel costs (without being consulted first, natch).
I'm coming to the conclusion that we need a revolution in this country, and fast!!
Posted by: enemyofislam
at July 15, 2006 6:18 AM
.i am sick of British condescention that we are all bunch of stupid,obscurtantist hicks here
Well you're doing nothing to dispel that impression, and everything to confirm it.
And do learn to spell - I know you can't help the "color", "favorite" thing, but what on earth are "probile" and "provactive"?
Posted by: Interested
at July 15, 2006 7:26 AM
Abdulalshirk...To be frank, I'm more than a little saddened to read your post. I understand you're passionate in your views and you're quite entitled to them, so I won't take offense. I could hardly disagree with you regarding the ineffectiveness of our leadership(?) in addressing these issues.
What saddens me though, is that some of the points you raise advocate that which you profess to oppose. As I've already pointed out, America has it's fair share of liberals and leftists blind to the realities of Islamic extremism. So does that constitute, by your own reasoning, a valid affirmation that America would "deserve" another 9/11 ?. I think not.
Another view that seems to be prominent in your post is that, essentially, the British are ill educated, morally, sexually and socially decadent and that our society should be rebased on Arabic and the Quran. I hate to disappoint here, but we've heard that one before, quite a few times. The difference being that we're used to hearing it from foaming at the mouth Islamists.
As for "British condescension", don't for one second believe that the views of leftist/liberal media (BBC et al) represent the grassroots view. You would be surpised at how many times I've heard comments to the effect "The Yanks wouldn't F***ing put up with this, so why should we?". And quite right too. Many people, myself included, are happy to hold the US up as a shining exponent of national pride.
None but the most "ill educated" , and there are a few, would believe the generalisation that Americans are nothing more than a bunch of "hicks". For those that do hold that view, then they need to be re-educated, and what better way to do this than hold America up as a nation to their eyes and say "Doesn't matter what people say son, when the s**t hits the fan, they stand with us".
And that's the crux of the matter. No matter that our politicians, media or churches may or may not be blind to the realities of what's happening before their eyes. The fact is that right now, the free thinking people of both our nations need to know that they are not alone in this and that when that S**t does indeed hit the fan.....we stand together. How about that, abdulalshirk?.
Incidentally, by and large, the British do believe that the Americans are F***ing nuts......but then.....it's what we love most about you ;) .
Posted by: Wishbone
at July 15, 2006 7:37 AM
Interested I accept your criticsms of my spelling. And to Wishbone, perhaps I was a little bit harsh in my treatment of Britian. I am likely one of the youngest posters here and hence have much to learn. I am just frustrated about the America bashing among the British elite, particularly on such issues as Gitmo. It seems to be favorite of certain Anglican clerics and BBC commentators. It is just frustrating to be bashed with such a attitude of condescension and moral superiority and then see this level of appeasement from many of the same types that bash the US for Gitmo.
It is so frustating after all the Anglo-American goodwill to have such a rift. I have encountered alot of almost blind Anti-Americanism on the behalf of England and to be honest it at times confuses me as to why. I hope this helps in being conciliatory.
Posted by: abdulalshirk
at July 15, 2006 7:48 AM
Wishbone - you make some good points, but you are far too kind. There is Schadenfreude and malice, as well as ignorance and arrogance in Abdulashirk's mangled syntax.
Posted by: Interested
at July 15, 2006 7:49 AM
Interested....Perhaps, mate. I do admit my first reaction was one of indignant rage, but I felt I had to cool down in order to think straight and collect my thoughts in order to respond.
Abdulalshirk....Perhaps you do have much to learn, as do we all, no matter our age. Just be mindful that many a battlefield still holds the dead of both our proud nations and that they fought with pride, honour......and side by side, as patriots.
"We must never forget"
Would it not be such a small thing that we also honour that brotherhood and continue to uphold their principles, paid for by their sacrifices?. Those principles begin and end with "We stand together".
I wouldn't for the life of me wish to come across as condescending here abdulalshirk, but I would advise that you reign in your anger and frustration and start to think deeply about what you're saying. Get facts and others' opinions first wouldn't be a bad thing either. Nobody's perfect, we all cock it up sometimes, and if you accept this basic human imperfection within yourself then the path to learning is a much smoother one, trust me.
Otherwise, any opinion you may have will ever come across as tainted with ignorance or arrogance as, I believe, Interested has pointed out ;)
Posted by: Wishbone
at July 15, 2006 8:55 AM
I was not impressed by abdulalshirk's first post although I am pleased to see the later discussion with him.
This sort of talk is not the way to speak of your allies, we get quite enough of that from elsewhere thank you very much.
Please do not forget that British servicemen and women are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan as we write. Men from my husband's old regiment are in action there at the moment, which reinforces my dim view.
at July 15, 2006 10:48 AM
You are, of course, entirely correct Mistress Weatherwax. It was remiss of me not to mention the regiments currently serving in the middle east and, indeed, wherever they serve. Dads old battalion (Grenadiers) are there at present and he follows news of their progress keenly.
My thanks for your reminder Esme ;)
Posted by: Wishbone
at July 15, 2006 1:13 PM
Wishbone - my pleasure.
Posted by: Granny Weatherwax
at July 15, 2006 2:36 PM
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